True, but they can always send their current ip address to their friend via email, chat, text, or a phone call. Or run a small server that people can join up to independent of the game companies, just to get the other players IPs.
So what we need is a system that doesn't allow for egress of bad or malicious packets. Set the evil bit in the packet header as per RFC 3514, then filter on that:-)
Narcissistic people like this, with a warped moral compass, you DON'T want them thinking of your children. Unless you think Luka Magnotta or Jeffrey Dahmer would make good babysitters...
I suspect argumentation isn't your strongest skill ?
Switching from one weak "justification" to another as each one gets knocked down, and displaying your ignorance of the basic technology involved shows that trolling isn't your strongest skill. Next time, leave it to the pros.
I think I and others have adequately responded to that question elsewhere. Refresh the thread. It would have been a good troll attempt except it was too easy to refute your basic claims:-)
Only if it was by throwing ".net.wpf.windows.break()"
You should make a difference between virtual and real.
A door and windows are real.
Why? On the same basis I should be able to empty your bank account because the money in it isn't real - first, it's only digits in a computer, and second, it's a fiat currency, backed by faith and trust, not real assets.
Note to Sheldon Cooper: If we ever reach the singularity, remember to wipe out this person's virtual self after his body is dead because as far as they're concerned "it's not real".
I did not watch their twitter, but considering this, you are right, and I need to change my verdict.
That doesn't change the fact that you were saying it was okay for them to do this before you found out it was ransomeware - if that's even true. A post on twitter doesn't make it so.
Also those "bastards" did not impede on basic human rights, even the right to "commerce" is only slightly restricted now (it will be up and running quickly), no company will be bankrupt.
Bringing in the term "human rights" to attempt to say "well, since they didn't violate basic human rights, it's okay that they did a DDoS to point out the problems with security. That's like saying "I killed your therapy dog, but owning a dog isn't a basic human right, and I did it to point out that you need better security for your dog, so instead of getting upset you should be thanking me."
And your reference to Kim DotCom is just another red herring. Even if the handling of that case was wrong, the last time I looked two wrongs don't make a right.
Another mitigation strategy would be to allow players to directly connect to each other rather than go through a central server. We were able to do this a couple of decades ago, but now we can't? Or rather, it's because the companies want to continue to control what you do after the sale, to sell you the parts of the game they "forgot" to put on the disk.
And when the servers no longer support that game that you and your friends really love because it's become a classic, you're hosed.
Perhaps because they are not those assholes, as you imply?
They could have done much more harm with access to credit card information, like transfering money to many dubious locations.
So they just gave you time to think about your game consumption, and the opportunity to think about the "silent" in silent night.
They ARE assholes. Their excuse is as nonsensical as someone saying that they're justified in walking into my home and taking some of my stuff because I don't lock my door - or I don't have "enough" locks. Attention-seeking assholes. (and no, this DDoS does not affect me - I don't own either a sony or a microsoft console).
I can just see it - "Judge, I only held up the bank to show that they need to add more security."
If they're so concerned, why don't they work on solutions to these problems instead of acting like Santa didn't give them a pony.
BTW, they wouldn't have been able to get CC numbers just from a plain vanilla DDoS. They're not actually hacking into the servers.
I wasn't even thinking of that. More along the lines of all the games that don't include "all the parts in the box", selling DLC, and those that need to validate with a server every so often. But, I was also referring, in a more general way, to the push away from stuff that can run strictly locally - your data is their data.
"Kodak - The crap goes in before the name goes on." ref
"Kodak - Crap is Job 1" ref
"Kodak -Quality you can't count on!"
"Kodak - you'll remember the cheap quality long after the low price is forgotten."
"An Apple a day keeps the Kodak away!"
"I'm sorry Dave. I can't do that. Or that. Or that either. I'm just a Kodak. Do you want to hear a song?"
When you've been sticking your name on any 3rd party crap that is willing to pay a fee, people aren't going to forget. It's probably better to start a new brand from scratch. My guess - it's a Chinese manufacturer trying to get market penetration in North America.
In the end it doesn't affect me much - I just transfer my files to my laptop to free up space. It's a lot more convenient to do that than dump it in some "cloud".
On a side note, we're seeing the end of personal computing, in the sense that most computer-related activities aren't (or can't) be confined to your personal space - your computing devices. Even games that should be able to run independent of the network somehow "need" to phone home.
1. Is it on my list of things to buy? If yes, buy it, if not goto 2
2. Is it on sale at a significant reduction? If no, don't buy it. If yes, goto 3
3. Will I need it at some point in the future? If no, don't buy it. If yes, buy it.
It has to be really, really awesome for me to ignore this procedure, simply because I've given away so many impulse buys on sale that I never ended up using.
What about Gmail and their ilk? Don't users assume that messages are private in the same sense as users on Facebook sending private messages, that only the recipient reads them?
Welcome to the end of the personal computer era. In the future, none of your programs will be able to run without connecting to a server somewhere, sometime.
Well, it's a good way to remind people of Kosmo.com, so that they're more receptive to the same concept, except this time it's different because we use DRONES!!!.
Just because something you said on a TV show became popular online doesn’t mean we need an app built around it. It would be one thing if it were a clever word or phrase, but it’s not.
So my new "Up your nose with a rubber hose." app might not be the next big thing?
Well, you could always try "He's dead, Jim!" Star Trek will have more cross-generation appeal than Happy Days (though Happy Days is where we got "jumped the shark" from)
The guy who wrote the summary was too lazy to scroll down and get the actual stats on ram. When I submit articles, I do more than read the first paragraph of the source.
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True, but they can always send their current ip address to their friend via email, chat, text, or a phone call. Or run a small server that people can join up to independent of the game companies, just to get the other players IPs.
So what we need is a system that doesn't allow for egress of bad or malicious packets. Set the evil bit in the packet header as per RFC 3514, then filter on that :-)
Exactly, think of the children !
Narcissistic people like this, with a warped moral compass, you DON'T want them thinking of your children. Unless you think Luka Magnotta or Jeffrey Dahmer would make good babysitters ...
This is the real crime here. That ignorant people actually think these wannabes are real hackers.
Well, what more can you expect from a wannabe troll?
I suspect argumentation isn't your strongest skill ?
Switching from one weak "justification" to another as each one gets knocked down, and displaying your ignorance of the basic technology involved shows that trolling isn't your strongest skill. Next time, leave it to the pros.
I think I and others have adequately responded to that question elsewhere. Refresh the thread. It would have been a good troll attempt except it was too easy to refute your basic claims :-)
All they did was download an illegal program [...]
Illegal program. LOL.
ping is illegal? Wow. So linux, freeBSD, Apple and Microsoft have been distributing illegal programs? Quick - call in the FBI!
Only if it was by throwing ".net.wpf.windows.break()"
You should make a difference between virtual and real.
A door and windows are real.
Why? On the same basis I should be able to empty your bank account because the money in it isn't real - first, it's only digits in a computer, and second, it's a fiat currency, backed by faith and trust, not real assets.
Note to Sheldon Cooper: If we ever reach the singularity, remember to wipe out this person's virtual self after his body is dead because as far as they're concerned "it's not real".
I did not watch their twitter, but considering this, you are right, and I need to change my verdict.
That doesn't change the fact that you were saying it was okay for them to do this before you found out it was ransomeware - if that's even true. A post on twitter doesn't make it so.
Also those "bastards" did not impede on basic human rights, even the right to "commerce" is only slightly restricted now (it will be up and running quickly), no company will be bankrupt.
Bringing in the term "human rights" to attempt to say "well, since they didn't violate basic human rights, it's okay that they did a DDoS to point out the problems with security. That's like saying "I killed your therapy dog, but owning a dog isn't a basic human right, and I did it to point out that you need better security for your dog, so instead of getting upset you should be thanking me."
And your reference to Kim DotCom is just another red herring. Even if the handling of that case was wrong, the last time I looked two wrongs don't make a right.
It's the old version of "batteries not included," but now on the INTERNET so somehow it's okay.
Another mitigation strategy would be to allow players to directly connect to each other rather than go through a central server. We were able to do this a couple of decades ago, but now we can't? Or rather, it's because the companies want to continue to control what you do after the sale, to sell you the parts of the game they "forgot" to put on the disk.
And when the servers no longer support that game that you and your friends really love because it's become a classic, you're hosed.
Perhaps because they are not those assholes, as you imply?
They could have done much more harm with access to credit card information, like transfering money to many dubious locations.
So they just gave you time to think about your game consumption, and the opportunity to think about the "silent" in silent night.
They ARE assholes. Their excuse is as nonsensical as someone saying that they're justified in walking into my home and taking some of my stuff because I don't lock my door - or I don't have "enough" locks. Attention-seeking assholes. (and no, this DDoS does not affect me - I don't own either a sony or a microsoft console).
I can just see it - "Judge, I only held up the bank to show that they need to add more security."
If they're so concerned, why don't they work on solutions to these problems instead of acting like Santa didn't give them a pony.
BTW, they wouldn't have been able to get CC numbers just from a plain vanilla DDoS. They're not actually hacking into the servers.
I wasn't even thinking of that. More along the lines of all the games that don't include "all the parts in the box", selling DLC, and those that need to validate with a server every so often. But, I was also referring, in a more general way, to the push away from stuff that can run strictly locally - your data is their data.
"Kodak - The crap goes in before the name goes on." ref
"Kodak - Crap is Job 1" ref
"Kodak -Quality you can't count on!"
"Kodak - you'll remember the cheap quality long after the low price is forgotten."
"An Apple a day keeps the Kodak away!"
"I'm sorry Dave. I can't do that. Or that. Or that either. I'm just a Kodak. Do you want to hear a song?"
When you've been sticking your name on any 3rd party crap that is willing to pay a fee, people aren't going to forget. It's probably better to start a new brand from scratch. My guess - it's a Chinese manufacturer trying to get market penetration in North America.
In the end it doesn't affect me much - I just transfer my files to my laptop to free up space. It's a lot more convenient to do that than dump it in some "cloud".
On a side note, we're seeing the end of personal computing, in the sense that most computer-related activities aren't (or can't) be confined to your personal space - your computing devices. Even games that should be able to run independent of the network somehow "need" to phone home.
1. Is it on my list of things to buy? If yes, buy it, if not goto 2
2. Is it on sale at a significant reduction? If no, don't buy it. If yes, goto 3
3. Will I need it at some point in the future? If no, don't buy it. If yes, buy it.
It has to be really, really awesome for me to ignore this procedure, simply because I've given away so many impulse buys on sale that I never ended up using.
Given that most android devices have expandable (flash) storage
Mine doesn't and I bought it this summer. Sucks to be me, I guess :-) Merry Xmas.
and has stopped her from coming home with several-hundred dollar purses on a whim
But does it work for shoes?
What about Gmail and their ilk? Don't users assume that messages are private in the same sense as users on Facebook sending private messages, that only the recipient reads them?
In Target stores Target targets YOU!
Welcome to the end of the personal computer era. In the future, none of your programs will be able to run without connecting to a server somewhere, sometime.
Well, it's a good way to remind people of Kosmo.com, so that they're more receptive to the same concept, except this time it's different because we use DRONES!!!.
Just because something you said on a TV show became popular online doesn’t mean we need an app built around it. It would be one thing if it were a clever word or phrase, but it’s not.
So my new "Up your nose with a rubber hose." app might not be the next big thing?
For those of you under 40...
Well, you could always try "He's dead, Jim!" Star Trek will have more cross-generation appeal than Happy Days (though Happy Days is where we got "jumped the shark" from)
The guy who wrote the summary was too lazy to scroll down and get the actual stats on ram. When I submit articles, I do more than read the first paragraph of the source.