don't forget SBLive as well... i have the chance to have a AWE64, i don't upgrade to a SBLive because there's no driver! Also with the money i hope they will develop TNT(2) OpenGL accelerated driver! -- http://www.beroute.tzo.com
i follow the quote for 3 hours, now it's about $8... I really hope Be Inc. will raise money so BeOS will start to fly! For those of you who don't know, QuakeII is available (free binary) at BeDepot -- http://www.beroute.tzo.com
Also, please keep in mind that the Linux community doesn't have the same resources as the BeOS developement team. How many of us have access to SMP systems
agree, linux kernel developper are not paid and kernel is bigger to maintain. However an Abit BP6 and two celeron 400 is now cheap! w2k should support SMP also... ok i know there can be ten millions of flame against M$, but if you want to use your latest hardware fully, you have only one choice: windows... for games also... -- http://www.beroute.tzo.com
AMD announced second quarter loss of $162 million, hoping it'll not affect their future, it's hard to fight with bigger (Intel), like BeOS/MacOS/Linux fighting against M$... -- http://www.beroute.tzo.com
with a TNT2U of course, what's even strange is that the matrox G400 is better than the voodoo3, i think 3dfx lost the battle finaly... also if they can test the athlon with a Neon250 the result should be great also, certainly more than 6000. -- http://www.beroute.tzo.com
add a CPU to linux and you have what? 20% increase? add one to NT and you have 40%, add one to BeOS and you have 90%:o) by the way NTO is Neutrino, if one day you can have a demo of it, you'll throw away your 4Gb of linux HD, 32Mb is enough to fully install NTO and his GUI and compiler and whatever you want. Also Photon (their GUI) is very clean, v2 will be better also. Develophing with PhAB (Photon Apbuilder) is very easy, and faster than X/Motif. as a personnal notice i don't like OO programming, C++ sucks and i call it C--, it's just a layer of standard C, not long ago, C++ program was translated in C program before being compiled to asm. However i like Eiffel, it's a TRUE OO language. -- http://www.beroute.tzo.com
well, with Neutrino this should have rocks, but now it'll be just another linux distro with some enhancements, SMP sucks, threads sucks also... and what about java? it's the most shitty language i have ever seen, slow like hell! and why use java when C exists for years and IS the language for whatever you want to program... it seems QNX will continue their way for a new OS based on NTO, wait and see... C rulez, unix rulez (oh, BeOS rulez also:o) -- http://www.beroute.tzo.com
the program for BeOS is called SockHop, read the overview to learn more about it. Sure programs have to be written for SockHop, but it looks powerful -- http://www.beroute.tzo.com
note that the next TCPIP package for QNX (TCPIP4.4 in alpha right now) is based on BSD4.4 and will have all the funny stuff like NAT or whatever. note also that in BeOS the TCPIP stack has been written by only one person!!! ok it lacks some raw socket interface (you cannot use traceroute e.g.) and the performance on a 100Mb are poor, but wrote a stack alone in one week is great:o) -- http://www.beroute.tzo.com
Neutrino works on x86, PPC, SH3, SH4, arm/strongarm, and will run on alot of others microprocessor. The kernel is about 40Kb, and only 10% of this kernel is microprocessor dependant, so rewriting 4Kb of code is easy for QSSL. I agree QNX/NTO is not made for the end user, but for embedded appliance and realtime critical stuff, it rocks! The guy who wrote the article knows nothing on QNX, i suggest him to contact QSSL so they can show him a demo. All the QNX stuff in this article is bullshit. -- http://www.beroute.tzo.com
i think you never saw QNX running? it's small, very very fast, developing for Photon is so easy also! Message passing is great, it existed in amigaOS in a way also. QNX kernel is developed for 20 years, and it rocks, i use it all the time at work, i don't want to use a monster like linux! -- http://www.beroute.tzo.com
So, are Amiga and QNX in a very tiny (somewhat pathetic, if you want my opinion) version of the old OS/2 vs. WinNT split?
no, QNX exist for 20 years, way ahead before microsoft... QNX was the first OS to use HD, was the first OS to run in protected mode on a 286, was the first to this, was the first to taht, etc. you can learn more on http://www.qnx.com somewhere. QNX/NTO microkernel rocks! -- http://www.beroute.tzo.com
I know Amiga for years, i know QNX4 for 2 years, and just yesterday i had a presentation of Nto2 by QSSL people, man this microkernel rocks! it's very powerful, small, SMP, message passing, whatever you want! i'm thinking that using linux kernel for amigaOS instead of Neutrino is a big big big mistake!!!! i cannot believe this... amiga had very difficult time in the past, they made mistakes, and they continue, they never learned from the past?!? why use a OS based on linux? just use linux instead! between NtoAmiga and BeOS i would have used both! between LinuxAmiga and BeOS, i'll use ONLY BeOS. -- http://www.beroute.tzo.com
i find strange noone has provided the URL of the book, it's http://www.cryptonomicon.com/ also you can read the beginning_print here -- http://www.beroute.tzo.com
you can order the CD "new" for 69$ or 25$, but if you already have R4, the upgrade is free and you'll be able to download it from BeDepot as well, like R3.1 and R3.2 were available when i had R3. Anyway Be Inc. promise Genki in June, it's coming!!! TNT2, SBLive, media player, pretty cool:), i really like this OS, simple, no hundreds of directories and links (it changes me from SCO at works!) Now wait for CivCTP, Simcity3000, Q2, and Q3A!!!!! --
In WinTel there's the word Windows and Intel, if Windows decide to don't support the VIA chipset, VIA users will become like the amiga/atari gang, 0.001%... with better machines than 50% of the 99.999% remaining! i'm wondering if BeOS will support the VIA chipset too? ish, i'll be forced to have a BeTel machine:o) --
when i was in France i had sometimes 400$/month only for internet connection, i've decided to emigrate in Québec, now my local phone calls are free:o), but i pay 50% taxes on my salary:-( --
yes we can terraform mars, first introduce plants so they will produce oxygen and absorb co2, then an atmospher will be created, then... I read an article about it in "Science & Vie" (french magazine) syaing it'll take about 200 years. did you play SimEarth? or watch Total Recall (a very good movie)? or read whole Foundation from Assimov? --
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don't forget SBLive as well... i have the chance to have a AWE64, i don't upgrade to a SBLive because there's no driver! Also with the money i hope they will develop TNT(2) OpenGL accelerated driver!
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http://www.beroute.tzo.com
here's the right link of the quote
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http://www.beroute.tzo.com
i follow the quote for 3 hours, now it's about $8... I really hope Be Inc. will raise money so BeOS will start to fly!
For those of you who don't know, QuakeII is available (free binary) at BeDepot
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http://www.beroute.tzo.com
Also, please keep in mind that the Linux community doesn't have the same resources as the BeOS developement team. How many of us have access to SMP systems
agree, linux kernel developper are not paid and kernel is bigger to maintain. However an Abit BP6 and two celeron 400 is now cheap! w2k should support SMP also... ok i know there can be ten millions of flame against M$, but if you want to use your latest hardware fully, you have only one choice: windows... for games also...
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http://www.beroute.tzo.com
AMD announced second quarter loss of $162 million, hoping it'll not affect their future, it's hard to fight with bigger (Intel), like BeOS/MacOS/Linux fighting against M$...
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http://www.beroute.tzo.com
with a TNT2U of course, what's even strange is that the matrox G400 is better than the voodoo3, i think 3dfx lost the battle finaly...
also if they can test the athlon with a Neon250 the result should be great also, certainly more than 6000.
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http://www.beroute.tzo.com
add a CPU to linux and you have what? 20% increase? add one to NT and you have 40%, add one to BeOS and you have 90% :o)
by the way NTO is Neutrino, if one day you can have a demo of it, you'll throw away your 4Gb of linux HD, 32Mb is enough to fully install NTO and his GUI and compiler and whatever you want. Also Photon (their GUI) is very clean, v2 will be better also. Develophing with PhAB (Photon Apbuilder) is very easy, and faster than X/Motif.
as a personnal notice i don't like OO programming, C++ sucks and i call it C--, it's just a layer of standard C, not long ago, C++ program was translated in C program before being compiled to asm. However i like Eiffel, it's a TRUE OO language.
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http://www.beroute.tzo.com
well, with Neutrino this should have rocks, but now it'll be just another linux distro with some enhancements, SMP sucks, threads sucks also... :o)
and what about java? it's the most shitty language i have ever seen, slow like hell! and why use java when C exists for years and IS the language for whatever you want to program...
it seems QNX will continue their way for a new OS based on NTO, wait and see...
C rulez, unix rulez (oh, BeOS rulez also
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click here
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http://www.beroute.tzo.com
the program for BeOS is called SockHop, read the overview to learn more about it. Sure programs have to be written for SockHop, but it looks powerful
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http://www.beroute.tzo.com
i said the NEXT tcpip package, actually it's v4.25, the v4.4 is actually in alpha stage, and will have NAT and whatever.
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http://www.beroute.tzo.com
note that the next TCPIP package for QNX (TCPIP4.4 in alpha right now) is based on BSD4.4 and will have all the funny stuff like NAT or whatever. :o)
note also that in BeOS the TCPIP stack has been written by only one person!!! ok it lacks some raw socket interface (you cannot use traceroute e.g.) and the performance on a 100Mb are poor, but wrote a stack alone in one week is great
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http://www.beroute.tzo.com
Neutrino works on x86, PPC, SH3, SH4, arm/strongarm, and will run on alot of others microprocessor. The kernel is about 40Kb, and only 10% of this kernel is microprocessor dependant, so rewriting 4Kb of code is easy for QSSL.
I agree QNX/NTO is not made for the end user, but for embedded appliance and realtime critical stuff, it rocks!
The guy who wrote the article knows nothing on QNX, i suggest him to contact QSSL so they can show him a demo. All the QNX stuff in this article is bullshit.
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http://www.beroute.tzo.com
i think you never saw QNX running? it's small, very very fast, developing for Photon is so easy also!
Message passing is great, it existed in amigaOS in a way also. QNX kernel is developed for 20 years, and it rocks, i use it all the time at work, i don't want to use a monster like linux!
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http://www.beroute.tzo.com
So, are Amiga and QNX in a very tiny (somewhat pathetic, if you want my opinion) version of the old OS/2 vs. WinNT split?
no, QNX exist for 20 years, way ahead before microsoft... QNX was the first OS to use HD, was the first OS to run in protected mode on a 286, was the first to this, was the first to taht, etc. you can learn more on http://www.qnx.com somewhere. QNX/NTO microkernel rocks!
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http://www.beroute.tzo.com
I know Amiga for years, i know QNX4 for 2 years, and just yesterday i had a presentation of Nto2 by QSSL people, man this microkernel rocks! it's very powerful, small, SMP, message passing, whatever you want!
i'm thinking that using linux kernel for amigaOS instead of Neutrino is a big big big mistake!!!!
i cannot believe this... amiga had very difficult time in the past, they made mistakes, and they continue, they never learned from the past?!?
why use a OS based on linux? just use linux instead! between NtoAmiga and BeOS i would have used both! between LinuxAmiga and BeOS, i'll use ONLY BeOS.
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http://www.beroute.tzo.com
maybe this is why i don't have hairs on the front of my head, i take monitor radiation for almost 15 years
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i find strange noone has provided the URL of the book, it's http://www.cryptonomicon.com/
also you can read the beginning_print here
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i am wondering if some translation of cryptonomicon will be available? especially french :)
any info on this?
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like in "Foundation and Earth" from Asimov :o)
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just click here
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you can order the CD "new" for 69$ or 25$, but if you already have R4, the upgrade is free and you'll be able to download it from BeDepot as well, like R3.1 and R3.2 were available when i had R3. :), i really like this OS, simple, no hundreds of directories and links (it changes me from SCO at works!)
Anyway Be Inc. promise Genki in June, it's coming!!! TNT2, SBLive, media player, pretty cool
Now wait for CivCTP, Simcity3000, Q2, and Q3A!!!!!
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In WinTel there's the word Windows and Intel, if Windows decide to don't support the VIA chipset, VIA users will become like the amiga/atari gang, 0.001%... with better machines than 50% of the 99.999% remaining! :o)
i'm wondering if BeOS will support the VIA chipset too? ish, i'll be forced to have a BeTel machine
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when i was in France i had sometimes 400$/month only for internet connection, i've decided to emigrate in Québec, now my local phone calls are free :o), but i pay 50% taxes on my salary :-(
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yes we can terraform mars, first introduce plants so they will produce oxygen and absorb co2, then an atmospher will be created, then... I read an article about it in "Science & Vie" (french magazine) syaing it'll take about 200 years.
did you play SimEarth? or watch Total Recall (a very good movie)? or read whole Foundation from Assimov?
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