Thanks for the offer -- but my wife probably wouldn't go for another computer. She already holds my collection against me. The 360 is color though right? The one I'm referring to in my post there is the 730T, it's grayscale sadly.
Except it comes with a pretty nifty padded wrap around case, so you can use it 'in the wild'. I wish it had come with OS/2 just for the novelty of it -- I've never used the HWR in OS/2.
Thanks for the offer, maybe after I sell off some of my other machines.
If you are interested, a number of wifi cards are supported by the newton community. You'll need your serial cable, or some other way to get the drivers onto your Newton though. If you don't already have a wifi card, then make sure you get one with a free/libre driver... the guy who wrote the orinoco drivers charges $25 bucks iirc... which to me is a rip-off for a $50 dollar card.
I agree that the iPod is on track to become a future PDA. I just hope they have the hindsight at that point to integrate some of the greatest bits of what has gone before.:) (great calendaring, great contacts management, and linked with iCal and Address book it would be a dream)
So, to the sibling poster, I agree having a pocket digital all-in-one thingy (phone, music, camera, pda, etc) would be great.
I certainly have not spent as much time training Ink. For one, it doesn't have the quick interface to teach a misrecognized word (you know: double tap, select correct guess) even in the 'Ink Window' where they try to emulate the Newton environment. Second, clicking on the caret in the Ink Window doesn't give a punctuation pop-up like the Newton, which makes punctuating things written in Ink a CHORE; good thing Apple doesn't make computers without keyboards these days... Otherwise your punctuation would he half-assed as it tries to guess whether something is a period or an accidental tap. Finally, Ink in 10.3 doesn't supply some training app like the Newton's prefs, the closest option is specifically adding words to a list that it frequently gets wrong, or that it can't dictionary guess. This list doesn't even learn (i.e. it doesn't automatically fill up with a list of words that the recognizer knows it had a low confidence score on).
I know Ink is an afterthought -- Apple can't seriously consider Ink to a 'solution' as it stands today. I'll give it two things though - the scribble sound it plays while you write sure is cute and it's fun to be able to include doodles right into iChat. However, you could not use an iBook, feasibly, without a keyboard, and get the same range of functionality as a heavy, 10 year old MP 2100.
I know again I'm coming off like some kind of freak - but really, the Newton could tell when you crossed two Ts at once, and that chokes Ink in OS X -- so whatever changes they made since its implementation on the ARM and the PPC they broke it.
I mean seriously JCR -- do you have both? Can you compare the experience? I'd think you'd see the obvious short-comings of "the same code". So to address your post, I'm surprised you don't think so.
(side note to all you people that believe an Apple Tablet is imminent: if Ink is any indication, it's not coming soon.)
That's great information. However, in practice I find the recognition more accurate on my Newton than using Ink with a tablet. Maybe if the visual feedback were one to one like with a Cintiq or something... you know... maybe it's just me.:)
Another obvious link between the Newton and Ink are the gestures, all pretty much the same.
I'm using 10.3 right now, so Tablet out -- here let Me test the Easteregg: RoseHa! RoGeHa! RoseHa! Let me try again more carefully Rosetta! Rosetta! Rosetta! Ok. I'm going to try one last time. Rosetta! Rosetta! Rosetta!
Huh. I couldn't get it to do it in the Inkpad window (with the nice lines and 'script' font).
Oh well -- maybe you can show me some proof of that with an URL. Cheers.
I didn't think I was really disclaiming either of those points, other than to say the "press" aka public media aka computer rags with 'lamenting newton' editorials all ran the same idea... Hence the meme we're carping about.
Anyway, any thoughts on Jobs' satisfaction with the eMate and what that means now that he's "saved" the company? You think maybe the Duke/iPod deal somehow relates to his "every student should have an eMate" dream?
I was sure the first reply to this would be "na-uh, recognition in tablet windows is 110% accurate" or "OSS project such and such has had a working environment 10 times better in both HID and functionality since 1996"
I have both a MP h1000, and an MP 2100. It looks like you helped 'fix' the HWR in the time between those two models. So, a personal thank you for helping to make the Newton great.:-) I don't want to sound crazy or anything, just thought it might be 'cool' to be appreciated by a stranger.
It really is functionality, not zealotry. I kid you not. If you've used the line of comparable devices (and pretend the Zires and Wince, er, PocketPC machines are monochrome), you'd find the Newton to be worth the excitement. I mean yes, it's 10 years too big these days, but still a joy to work with. (Also posted from a Mac, although I'm not 2 feet away from both a win2k box and a debian box. I've got some other relevant posts about newton comparisons if you are interested.)
Just to chime in here... I stand kinda between your two stances. It was pretty common knowledge/speculation in the press at the time that Newton was killed by Jobs in a little tit-for-tat to Sculley. The evidence I bring is this, at the time of the MP2100 Newton was going to be spun-off or sold outright (the evidence is in the MP itself, it has a round spot for the Newton lightbulb logo below the screen, but instead a rainbow Apple is shoe-horned in instead and 'Newton Technology' is silk screened on the top as an afterthought -- the first Newtons has the rainbow Apple molded right into the case). There were a couple firms lined up to buy but they couldn't get a commitment from Apple on the terms or sale or whatever. This waffling or whatever was seen as a result of Jobs coming on. So the story goes that Jobs just let it get cut (for business reasons like you say) instead of letting the tech survive as a cash trade to some other company. The weird part is -- Jobs is said to have been enamored with the eMate, so I don't think it was all 'meanness' that let the Newton go. The spirit of the eMate seems to have lived on with those clamshell iBooks:-p, obviously not in any material way, just in a kind of ethereal way.:-D
So anyway. I was sad to see it mothballed and I'm sad that Jobs isn't interested in tablets/pdas every time I use my Newton. Jobs said "it's not a computer without a keyboard" somewhere back then, and I kinda think this sums up his attitude to this day.
That may be true - that's it's "faster". But at what cost? I.e. 'faster with more typos left in'. I find that writing in my weird blend of cursive and printing using ink-text that I can consistently out-write myself when using graffiti. I'm not slouch with either. I've used both palm os devices and newtons for years (see my previous post in this thread). With graffiti you kinda of have to 'correct as you go' or take a hit in speed while you carefully make your strokes (and graffiti doesn't store your actually strokes so if you misspell someone's name in a quick note, you can't go back and see what you 'meant' to scribble down). With ink-text you just go all out, then bulk recognize when time isn't as pressing. With my Pilots (and visor's and cliés) I almost never took quick notes with graffiti, always opting for the Sketchpad. Second, I could never keep up with a lecture on a Pilot, while I could easily take notes with either ink-text or full HWR with the outline mode on my Newton MP2100.
So yeah. Maybe I would have preferred graffiti on my H1000... as the hwr just sucked, and ink-text wasn't even available yet, but on the latest/last MP, real writing surpassed graffiti.
The Message Pad 2100 (baring it's size) is really the epitome of the PDA. In that... it's actually able to 'assist' in what you typically use a pda for. Voice recording, calendaring, little black-booking, emailing.
I have a 2100 and also was an early adopter of the Palm series (had an original palm pro, a palm three, then got a visor deluxe, then a clié -- depsite the clié's higher resolution and jog wheel, I gave it up and went back to the visor). I haven't bothered to move on to the Zire line because... although graffiti is usable, it just sucks compared to the -- let me stress this again -- awesome recognition of the Newton MP. I know there are some folks out there working on embedded GTK interfaces, can any of you let me know where HWR is at on the embedded Linux scene?
So, the reason no one is 're-writing' a clone OS of the Newton is the unfeasibility of creating, from a hobbyist public domain vector a platform as perfectly suited to the PDA as the Newton OS. I am enamoured with tablet computing... I even have one of the first IBM Thinkpads (Type 2524, all screen, no keyboard). Which you could say is loosely a sibling of the same era. It uses Windows 95 with the 'Pen Computing' crap (since the Pen Windows or whatever was killed). The recognition is horrible. And that's with a 486DX, which should arguably have more horsepower than the ARM the Newton's had.
Anyway, I know this post goes no where in specific but here's the main thrust: I have used basically every pen based system that has been commercially available. The Newton MP 2100 was the most elegant and useful of any of these. If Newton had survived Jobs re-emergence, or had been spun off, we would all have 3"x5"x.5", color, 180dpi, nearly edge to edge screen, pressure sensitive, useful, intelligent PDAs with HWR as good, or better, than the MP's for probably a lower price point than the original MP's. I'm thinking like $350. I would die for that.
Oh, and let me say too... That ThinkPad is cool, I still sketch on it in Photoshop 3.5 with it, but the HWR is horrible. Damn you Microsoft. I just don't see why the whole industry just freaked out and let HWR wallow for so long. Even Ink in OS X isn't as good as the Newton HWR.
Maybe I should have complained that it's actually not consistent unless you hold down command. For example, the minimized itunes window will let you click the forward - back - pause etc without first raising the window, while it will ignore the raising/focussing click in other places. I'd like the option to tell the gui that when I click something, I want it to react, even if it's below something else; My reasoning being that windows in OS X have plenty of 'handle room' at the top and bottom of the window to permit deliberate raising.
So anyhow. I'm saying I love that you can move, interact and shape a window without raising it by command-clicking, but I hate that it's not consistent when you don't hold down command.
As I understand the RAM issue... it is a limitation to use 32-bit addressing, but it is not a showstopper UNLESS you MUST have all 8 to 16gb (even though they don't claim it, I've read it will still work with 8 2gig dimms) in ram at once. I.e. you can mmap as much as you like to a file and then deal with the roughly (not quite) 4 gig window to that data (per process, which could be parallelized depending on the nature of the application) while the kernel caches whatever of that file it can in the remaining system ram. Sure that's a kludge, and one day soon I'm pretty confident that all libs/frameworks and what not will support 64-bit addressing. I hate to sound like an apologist when I say it doesn't really affect me:) But yeah, if you need both 64bit math and an architecture with $10,000 or more worth of ram, use AMD64.
" I have 6 virtual desktops (using Desktop Manager), each with its own use. It's kind of sorry that Mac OS doesn't even support a notion of virtual desktops, and that they leave it up to third parties to fix."
I was doing this too until expose'. And I would rant and rave and howl about why on earth Apple didn't include a VWM, like they obviously had with Nextstep, and could have obviously implemented themselves as the couple third party guys have demonstrated). I just kinda got used to expose and stopped using the vwm as a way to manage stack of windows open, you know instead of farming them all to different workspaces.
Anyhow. I can see I agree with you. To solve your terminals all next to each other problem: You are right, fresh generic terms from terminal app don't remember their shape or location... however, saved terminals do. So, a solution to your situation is to move each terminal where you like it, then each one to a.term file. When you need to fire them all up again, just double click those.term files and they will pop up right where you left them. If it's an issue of moving them one pixel at a time... consider the neat accessibility feature of zoom... carefully turn it on by typing cmd-alt-8 once, wait a sec then use cmd-alt-= to zoom in, then drag the windows around with your increased level of per pixel placement, then cmd-alt-8 again to turn it off.
" Mac OS doesn't support snap, which means that if you want to place two windows right next to each other, you have to move them a pixel at a time until it's just right. A real hassle."
First, wow that's anal (but nothing personal). And second, having windows snap to each other to fill every pixel of available desktop space is soo Windows 1.03. I'd hardly call that progress. However, I'll admit that some people want an experience that's more clinical while others want an experience that's more organic.
My only gripe with window management in OS X is that you can't lock the desktop in the 'exposed' mode, so you can watch all your ichats and the progress of an operation at a glance. You know - like being able to zoom out on an infinite virtual desktop. My other gripe is that you can't interact with a non focused window without holding down the command key. I wish the click focus followed the mouse like the scroll-wheel focus does (not necessarily like the venerable window focus follows mouse in X).
So yeah, window placement and window snapping are pretty weak examples, especially when (by design) windows open up with the previous shape and position you closed them at, not some nebulous 'best fit' locale.
I'm sure you can provide better examples of more innovative window management then these.
Oh and finally -- how do powermacs and xserves address 8 gigs of ram without 64-bit addressing? I don't really keep up with the Darwin development. I guess I can google around for that answer.
I have a TiVo too. I don't subscribe to the digital cable for exactly the same reason. I'm already getting reamed bad enough for cable internet service, why would I want to pay another $40 bucks on top of basic cable?
If the "netflix through TiVo" costs less than the cost of subscribing to 'the movie channels', then I could still see the movies I want for less money.
No I think it's a little less maligned than you believe...
A "real" debate is where you make a claim and I rebut it. You know, like where there is a contentious exchange of ideas. Often times there is a moderator.
The two-party 'debate' commision prevents "real" debate by design. The Memorandum of Understanding, that have existed since the Legue of Women Voters stopped sponsoring presidential debates, are created to stiffle honest interaction, to bar third parties from debates (unless the 'monopoly parties' agree on a third candidate as a spoiler to the other side, e.g., Ross Perot), and to promote their respective 'message' without costly mistakes all while 'fooling' the public into believing that it's anything more than a scripted two-party event. Important things may be said, so I'm not saying they aren't without merit, I'm just saying they aren't a debate; or at least, not a real one.
The "real" modifier is to differentiate against the "no direct response, timed answers, questions in advance, no follow-up" format chosen for the Bush-Kerry debates versus all other -- let's say 'true' -- forums of debate.
Oh - and what makes the Bush-Kerry debate "official" btw? That a private corporation founded and funded by a Republican and a Democrat put them on each year with corporate sponsorship?
Regarding your sig: "it's = 'it is'; its = possessive. E.g. it's flapping its wings"
There should be a comma after "E.g." I mean, while were going grammar police, might as well go all the way:-) Maybe a period at the end too, since you stuck one after possessive.
I'll chime in - The TFT on my iBook has no perceptible lag when moving the mouse or playing in FPSs. In fact, when I'm using my Graphire (tablet) I can see the cursor wiggle exactly in time to any trembles in my hand.
I guess the ancestor's problem could be more than the display though right? What if his USB mouse, or usb HID driver was flakey... i.e. does the keyboard keep up with letters appearing as you type?
(I'll have to admit I didn't WTFV [watch and video])
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Thanks for the offer -- but my wife probably wouldn't go for another computer. She already holds my collection against me. The 360 is color though right? The one I'm referring to in my post there is the 730T, it's grayscale sadly.
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Here's what it looks like:
http://www.tempcity.com/dramanyc/uploads/post-299
Except it comes with a pretty nifty padded wrap around case, so you can use it 'in the wild'. I wish it had come with OS/2 just for the novelty of it -- I've never used the HWR in OS/2.
Thanks for the offer, maybe after I sell off some of my other machines.
If you are interested, a number of wifi cards are supported by the newton community. You'll need your serial cable, or some other way to get the drivers onto your Newton though. If you don't already have a wifi card, then make sure you get one with a free/libre driver ... the guy who wrote the orinoco drivers charges $25 bucks iirc... which to me is a rip-off for a $50 dollar card.
I agree that the iPod is on track to become a future PDA. I just hope they have the hindsight at that point to integrate some of the greatest bits of what has gone before. :) (great calendaring, great contacts management, and linked with iCal and Address book it would be a dream)
So, to the sibling poster, I agree having a pocket digital all-in-one thingy (phone, music, camera, pda, etc) would be great.
I certainly have not spent as much time training Ink. For one, it doesn't have the quick interface to teach a misrecognized word (you know: double tap, select correct guess) even in the 'Ink Window' where they try to emulate the Newton environment. Second, clicking on the caret in the Ink Window doesn't give a punctuation pop-up like the Newton, which makes punctuating things written in Ink a CHORE; good thing Apple doesn't make computers without keyboards these days... Otherwise your punctuation would he half-assed as it tries to guess whether something is a period or an accidental tap. Finally, Ink in 10.3 doesn't supply some training app like the Newton's prefs, the closest option is specifically adding words to a list that it frequently gets wrong, or that it can't dictionary guess. This list doesn't even learn (i.e. it doesn't automatically fill up with a list of words that the recognizer knows it had a low confidence score on).
I know Ink is an afterthought -- Apple can't seriously consider Ink to a 'solution' as it stands today. I'll give it two things though - the scribble sound it plays while you write sure is cute and it's fun to be able to include doodles right into iChat. However, you could not use an iBook, feasibly, without a keyboard, and get the same range of functionality as a heavy, 10 year old MP 2100.
I know again I'm coming off like some kind of freak - but really, the Newton could tell when you crossed two Ts at once, and that chokes Ink in OS X -- so whatever changes they made since its implementation on the ARM and the PPC they broke it.
I mean seriously JCR -- do you have both? Can you compare the experience? I'd think you'd see the obvious short-comings of "the same code". So to address your post, I'm surprised you don't think so.
(side note to all you people that believe an Apple Tablet is imminent: if Ink is any indication, it's not coming soon.)
That's great information. However, in practice I find the recognition more accurate on my Newton than using Ink with a tablet. Maybe if the visual feedback were one to one like with a Cintiq or something ... you know ... maybe it's just me. :)
Another obvious link between the Newton and Ink are the gestures, all pretty much the same.
I'm using 10.3 right now, so Tablet out --
here let Me test the Easteregg:
RoseHa! RoGeHa! RoseHa!
Let me try again more carefully
Rosetta! Rosetta! Rosetta!
Ok. I'm going to try one last time.
Rosetta! Rosetta! Rosetta!
Huh. I couldn't get it to do it in the Inkpad window (with the nice lines and 'script' font).
Oh well -- maybe you can show me some proof of that with an URL. Cheers.
You might then be amused by this:
http://www.research.att.com/projects/ShortTalk/
I didn't think I was really disclaiming either of those points, other than to say the "press" aka public media aka computer rags with 'lamenting newton' editorials all ran the same idea... Hence the meme we're carping about.
Anyway, any thoughts on Jobs' satisfaction with the eMate and what that means now that he's "saved" the company? You think maybe the Duke/iPod deal somehow relates to his "every student should have an eMate" dream?
I was sure the first reply to this would be "na-uh, recognition in tablet windows is 110% accurate" or "OSS project such and such has had a working environment 10 times better in both HID and functionality since 1996"
Thanks for the chuckle.
I have both a MP h1000, and an MP 2100. It looks like you helped 'fix' the HWR in the time between those two models. So, a personal thank you for helping to make the Newton great. :-) I don't want to sound crazy or anything, just thought it might be 'cool' to be appreciated by a stranger.
It really is functionality, not zealotry. I kid you not. If you've used the line of comparable devices (and pretend the Zires and Wince, er, PocketPC machines are monochrome), you'd find the Newton to be worth the excitement. I mean yes, it's 10 years too big these days, but still a joy to work with. (Also posted from a Mac, although I'm not 2 feet away from both a win2k box and a debian box. I've got some other relevant posts about newton comparisons if you are interested.)
Just to chime in here... I stand kinda between your two stances. It was pretty common knowledge/speculation in the press at the time that Newton was killed by Jobs in a little tit-for-tat to Sculley. The evidence I bring is this, at the time of the MP2100 Newton was going to be spun-off or sold outright (the evidence is in the MP itself, it has a round spot for the Newton lightbulb logo below the screen, but instead a rainbow Apple is shoe-horned in instead and 'Newton Technology' is silk screened on the top as an afterthought -- the first Newtons has the rainbow Apple molded right into the case). There were a couple firms lined up to buy but they couldn't get a commitment from Apple on the terms or sale or whatever. This waffling or whatever was seen as a result of Jobs coming on. So the story goes that Jobs just let it get cut (for business reasons like you say) instead of letting the tech survive as a cash trade to some other company. The weird part is -- Jobs is said to have been enamored with the eMate, so I don't think it was all 'meanness' that let the Newton go. The spirit of the eMate seems to have lived on with those clamshell iBooks :-p, obviously not in any material way, just in a kind of ethereal way. :-D
So anyway. I was sad to see it mothballed and I'm sad that Jobs isn't interested in tablets/pdas every time I use my Newton. Jobs said "it's not a computer without a keyboard" somewhere back then, and I kinda think this sums up his attitude to this day.
An HOUR?!
My mp 2100 with original rechargeable battery runs longer than that with the backlight on.
That may be true - that's it's "faster". But at what cost? I.e. 'faster with more typos left in'. I find that writing in my weird blend of cursive and printing using ink-text that I can consistently out-write myself when using graffiti. I'm not slouch with either. I've used both palm os devices and newtons for years (see my previous post in this thread). With graffiti you kinda of have to 'correct as you go' or take a hit in speed while you carefully make your strokes (and graffiti doesn't store your actually strokes so if you misspell someone's name in a quick note, you can't go back and see what you 'meant' to scribble down). With ink-text you just go all out, then bulk recognize when time isn't as pressing. With my Pilots (and visor's and cliés) I almost never took quick notes with graffiti, always opting for the Sketchpad. Second, I could never keep up with a lecture on a Pilot, while I could easily take notes with either ink-text or full HWR with the outline mode on my Newton MP2100.
... as the hwr just sucked, and ink-text wasn't even available yet, but on the latest/last MP, real writing surpassed graffiti.
So yeah. Maybe I would have preferred graffiti on my H1000
The Message Pad 2100 (baring it's size) is really the epitome of the PDA. In that ... it's actually able to 'assist' in what you typically use a pda for. Voice recording, calendaring, little black-booking, emailing.
I have a 2100 and also was an early adopter of the Palm series (had an original palm pro, a palm three, then got a visor deluxe, then a clié -- depsite the clié's higher resolution and jog wheel, I gave it up and went back to the visor). I haven't bothered to move on to the Zire line because... although graffiti is usable, it just sucks compared to the -- let me stress this again -- awesome recognition of the Newton MP. I know there are some folks out there working on embedded GTK interfaces, can any of you let me know where HWR is at on the embedded Linux scene?
So, the reason no one is 're-writing' a clone OS of the Newton is the unfeasibility of creating, from a hobbyist public domain vector a platform as perfectly suited to the PDA as the Newton OS. I am enamoured with tablet computing... I even have one of the first IBM Thinkpads (Type 2524, all screen, no keyboard). Which you could say is loosely a sibling of the same era. It uses Windows 95 with the 'Pen Computing' crap (since the Pen Windows or whatever was killed). The recognition is horrible. And that's with a 486DX, which should arguably have more horsepower than the ARM the Newton's had.
Anyway, I know this post goes no where in specific but here's the main thrust: I have used basically every pen based system that has been commercially available. The Newton MP 2100 was the most elegant and useful of any of these. If Newton had survived Jobs re-emergence, or had been spun off, we would all have 3"x5"x.5", color, 180dpi, nearly edge to edge screen, pressure sensitive, useful, intelligent PDAs with HWR as good, or better, than the MP's for probably a lower price point than the original MP's. I'm thinking like $350. I would die for that.
Oh, and let me say too... That ThinkPad is cool, I still sketch on it in Photoshop 3.5 with it, but the HWR is horrible. Damn you Microsoft. I just don't see why the whole industry just freaked out and let HWR wallow for so long. Even Ink in OS X isn't as good as the Newton HWR.
Let the rebuttals fly!
Maybe I should have complained that it's actually not consistent unless you hold down command. For example, the minimized itunes window will let you click the forward - back - pause etc without first raising the window, while it will ignore the raising/focussing click in other places. I'd like the option to tell the gui that when I click something, I want it to react, even if it's below something else; My reasoning being that windows in OS X have plenty of 'handle room' at the top and bottom of the window to permit deliberate raising.
So anyhow. I'm saying I love that you can move, interact and shape a window without raising it by command-clicking, but I hate that it's not consistent when you don't hold down command.
As I understand the RAM issue... it is a limitation to use 32-bit addressing, but it is not a showstopper UNLESS you MUST have all 8 to 16gb (even though they don't claim it, I've read it will still work with 8 2gig dimms) in ram at once. I.e. you can mmap as much as you like to a file and then deal with the roughly (not quite) 4 gig window to that data (per process, which could be parallelized depending on the nature of the application) while the kernel caches whatever of that file it can in the remaining system ram. Sure that's a kludge, and one day soon I'm pretty confident that all libs/frameworks and what not will support 64-bit addressing. I hate to sound like an apologist when I say it doesn't really affect me :) But yeah, if you need both 64bit math and an architecture with $10,000 or more worth of ram, use AMD64.
.term file. When you need to fire them all up again, just double click those .term files and they will pop up right where you left them. If it's an issue of moving them one pixel at a time ... consider the neat accessibility feature of zoom... carefully turn it on by typing cmd-alt-8 once, wait a sec then use cmd-alt-= to zoom in, then drag the windows around with your increased level of per pixel placement, then cmd-alt-8 again to turn it off.
" I have 6 virtual desktops (using Desktop Manager), each with its own use. It's kind of sorry that Mac OS doesn't even support a notion of virtual desktops, and that they leave it up to third parties to fix."
I was doing this too until expose'. And I would rant and rave and howl about why on earth Apple didn't include a VWM, like they obviously had with Nextstep, and could have obviously implemented themselves as the couple third party guys have demonstrated). I just kinda got used to expose and stopped using the vwm as a way to manage stack of windows open, you know instead of farming them all to different workspaces.
Anyhow. I can see I agree with you. To solve your terminals all next to each other problem: You are right, fresh generic terms from terminal app don't remember their shape or location... however, saved terminals do. So, a solution to your situation is to move each terminal where you like it, then each one to a
Hope I could help. Cheers.
" Mac OS doesn't support snap, which means that if you want to place two windows right next to each other, you have to move them a pixel at a time until it's just right. A real hassle."
First, wow that's anal (but nothing personal). And second, having windows snap to each other to fill every pixel of available desktop space is soo Windows 1.03. I'd hardly call that progress. However, I'll admit that some people want an experience that's more clinical while others want an experience that's more organic.
My only gripe with window management in OS X is that you can't lock the desktop in the 'exposed' mode, so you can watch all your ichats and the progress of an operation at a glance. You know - like being able to zoom out on an infinite virtual desktop. My other gripe is that you can't interact with a non focused window without holding down the command key. I wish the click focus followed the mouse like the scroll-wheel focus does (not necessarily like the venerable window focus follows mouse in X).
So yeah, window placement and window snapping are pretty weak examples, especially when (by design) windows open up with the previous shape and position you closed them at, not some nebulous 'best fit' locale.
I'm sure you can provide better examples of more innovative window management then these.
Oh and finally -- how do powermacs and xserves address 8 gigs of ram without 64-bit addressing? I don't really keep up with the Darwin development. I guess I can google around for that answer.
"Presuming a PC last [sic] 3 years and a mac lasts 5, buying two PCs comes out cheaper, AND halfway through you start using a better machine."
:-)
Well, maybe not better, but arguably faster, depending mostly on if you had to upgrade Windows too.
Hehe.
I guess that's getting less likely as the Microsoft product cycle slows to a crawl.
I have a TiVo too. I don't subscribe to the digital cable for exactly the same reason. I'm already getting reamed bad enough for cable internet service, why would I want to pay another $40 bucks on top of basic cable?
If the "netflix through TiVo" costs less than the cost of subscribing to 'the movie channels', then I could still see the movies I want for less money.
No I think it's a little less maligned than you believe...
A "real" debate is where you make a claim and I rebut it. You know, like where there is a contentious exchange of ideas. Often times there is a moderator.
The two-party 'debate' commision prevents "real" debate by design. The Memorandum of Understanding, that have existed since the Legue of Women Voters stopped sponsoring presidential debates, are created to stiffle honest interaction, to bar third parties from debates (unless the 'monopoly parties' agree on a third candidate as a spoiler to the other side, e.g., Ross Perot), and to promote their respective 'message' without costly mistakes all while 'fooling' the public into believing that it's anything more than a scripted two-party event. Important things may be said, so I'm not saying they aren't without merit, I'm just saying they aren't a debate; or at least, not a real one.
The "real" modifier is to differentiate against the "no direct response, timed answers, questions in advance, no follow-up" format chosen for the Bush-Kerry debates versus all other -- let's say 'true' -- forums of debate.
Oh - and what makes the Bush-Kerry debate "official" btw? That a private corporation founded and funded by a Republican and a Democrat put them on each year with corporate sponsorship?
Regarding your sig: "it's = 'it is'; its = possessive. E.g. it's flapping its wings"
:-) Maybe a period at the end too, since you stuck one after possessive.
There should be a comma after "E.g." I mean, while were going grammar police, might as well go all the way
I'll chime in - The TFT on my iBook has no perceptible lag when moving the mouse or playing in FPSs. In fact, when I'm using my Graphire (tablet) I can see the cursor wiggle exactly in time to any trembles in my hand.
I guess the ancestor's problem could be more than the display though right? What if his USB mouse, or usb HID driver was flakey... i.e. does the keyboard keep up with letters appearing as you type?
(I'll have to admit I didn't WTFV [watch and video])
In that position, "e.g." should have been followed by a comma. Enjoy.
:-)
Ouch! I should have known better. Touché!
What's the Matter with Kansas?: How Conservatives Won the Heart of America
The blurb is thus:
hehe:
s/their are not enough/there are not enough/