> If I open a "Copee Shoppe" that serves latte and rents computers and just happens to have original CDs that people can make personal copies of while drinking expensive coffee, they'd be on me like a tonne of bricks.
I have thought of doing exactly that. I expect it would require a good lawyer, but read Sections 80 through 82 of the Canadian Copyright Act yourself. It's not a matter of non-enforcement. Copying for personal use is specifically permitted in the Copyright Act.
Your comment is obviously flamebait, but I need to respond to your first sentence. Why not off the internet? Did you read sections 80 thru 82 of the Canadian Copyright Act? Did you notice the limitations listed in section 80? Did it mention WHERE you were permitted to copy from?
I repeat: Section 80 of the Canadian Copyright Act clearly states that we (Canadians) are allowed to make copies of performances of musical works embodied in a sound recording for private use. Check with a Canadian lawyer if you don't believe me. (Actually, check with one BEFORE you believe me, as IANAL. The text is quite clear to the average reader, though.)
>What's next? Will we not be able to have male and female ends on our 1/4" audio cable for fear of offending the transgendered?
Too late. When I was in tech school 10 years ago I learned the PC terms are jack (or was it plug?) and receptacle. Of course, most of us used "male" and "female" as it made more sense to us.
> This is completely incongruous to your argument. If publishing is expensive / difficult, then short or no copyright is necessary.
You miss the point. There was a time when "publishers" were the only people who could make player piano rolls. The artists (composers) were afraid to "share" their works because the publishers would sell copies of their music and not pay the composer a dime. The publishers FOUGHT copyright laws at the time because they DID NOT WANT to pay the artists. By offering the artist a period of time where they were protected, they could allow the third party to publish their work and still get paid. The whole problem here stems from the fact that the artist was unable to publish their own work and relied on a third party to publish it.
Today the costs of self publishing and self promoting (promoting still less than publishing) are within reach of the artist. If an artist can publish their own work, the whole copyright mess is much less of an issue. THIS is what the *IAA is scared of. They don't matter anymore once people realize it.
I don't buy many CDs anymore, but the last two I bought direct from the artists. I would rather do it that way (the artist gets the bulk of the money) than buy them from RIAA.
> The difference between this and the "EULA"s in the article is that these are legally binding - they're presented before the sale, and they're signed by the purchaser.
What aboutpeople who claim it blew onto their property?
> So I still want to know why the original poster cares.
I can't speak for the original poster. And, although I had heard Darl was Mormon, I don't believe it has shaped my view of this story. The original poster does, however, bring up a valid point. Peoples' motiviations are shaped by their worldviews -- whether their worldview is based on a religion or other idealistic system. (eg. Capitalism, Hedonism, Communism, whatever) If we take the time to understand a person's worldview, it can help us to understand that person's motivations. A very practical example of this is the situation in Iraq. I believe the US went in there not fully understanding the worldview of the Iraqi people. With a better understanding of their belief system and worldview, they may have been able to settle things down much more rapidly than they have. (read: get more of the Iraqi people to support their efforts.)
Anyways, back on topic: Just because we know that Darl is a Mormon doesn't mean that we know what his worldview is. I know plenty of Christians with different worldviews. Although I don't know any practising Mormons, I'm sure the same could be said of them. Probably the worst thing that could come out of this is us non-Mormons sitting back smugly thinking "at least he's not one of us."
> Aparently you don't know your Bible very well. > As you can see, Ashpenaz is the first SysAdmin listed in the Bible, somewhere between 600 BC and 580 BC.
Well, SCO might be in trouble there. If you read the book of Acts chapter 8 verses 27 and following, you will find evidence that the Ethiopians had Eunuchs (so they spelled it different...) in first century AD. SCO's timeline doesn't go back quite that far.
> The first "full PC" with a monitor, keyboard, and OS was Radio Shack's TR-80. At thei time I deplored: "Whats the world coming to when people can even build their own PCs anymore?"
I will have to disagree with that. The TRS-80 Microcomputer System (aka Model 1) came out in August of 1977. Both the Apple 2 (which hooked up to a TV) and the PET 2001 (which had a built-in monitor, keyboard, and tape deck) were unveiled in April 1977.
The TRS-80 probably holds the record for the first mass-marketted general purpose personal computer, as it was sold through Radio Shack's extensive chain, but the Apple and PET definitely beat it to market. See: http://scott.saskatoon.com/pet20018 k.shtml http://scott.saskatoon.com/trs80m1.shtml
> Gas-powered lawn mowers put out far more pollutants per gallon burned than any car on the road today. Slap some regulations on those things and clean them up. You'll do far more to improve the environment than going after cargo trucks.
Nice abuse of stats! How many gallons of gas are burned yearly in lawnmowers? How many gallons of diesel are burned yearly in trucks? Multiply by pollutants/gallon and then we'll talk about which has the most impact.
Recent emmission laws have negatively affected model airplane engines. How much effect do you really think my.049 cubic inch engine really has on the environment? How about my.40? New regulations need to take into account the TOTAL effect of reducing emmissions in a class of engine/vehicle, not just emmissions/gallon.
> What happens when the spammers start using worms and viruses to create open relays on people you trust?
They already get through whitelists... a few months ago a person I provided free webspace for got a nasty porn spam with my address in the *from*. She was rather concerned. When she contacted me, I found that I had in fact recieved the same spam "from her." What's more, her address was a special purpose address that was only listed on the website I provided for her. A few lines lower on the site was a "Thanks to Scott Walde for providing this webspace for free" with a link to my email address. The only reason I can see for using email addresses found near each other this way is to get through whitelists. (software or human... I often scan the "from" to decide which emails to read.)
Earl gray is nice, but I really prefer a cup of "Jasmine tea." The kind with no english printed on the carton... just on the sticker added by the importers. I used to go to this little Vietnamese restaurant and the owner would serve us this tea. I finally found out what it was so I could buy it myself. If you're going to try it, make sure you buy a genuine chinese brand. Most of the brands with mostly english printed on the carton or can aren't nearly as fragrant.
> Its the statement that coffee starts out with less caffiene, and ends up with more, thats so *crazy* to me!
Why is that *crazy* ? If one cup's worth of coffee grounds has 200mg of caffiene in it, and one cup's worth of tea leaves has 300mg of caffiene in it, but the coffee brewing process manages to extract 50% of the caffiene in the grounds, while the tea brewing process manages to extract 25% of the caffiene, you end up with a cup of coffee with 100mg and a cup of tea with 75mg. Why is that so hard to understand?
> Now all we need is to figure out how to make water have enough tension to hold a person. Hrmm...
Simple. This happens naturally where I live. I simply have to wait until, say, mid-November. The surface tension remains high until some time in spring. It only works for water kept outside or in an unheated building.
I used to work in a computer store. One of our staff would spend most of the day sitting at a computer in the showroom playing Everquest or whatever other game was new at the time. Another employee would daily replace the grimey mouse pad. Seriously, after 8 hours of gaming the mouse pad would have a very noticable, ugly stain on it.
It used to be sport around here to try and trick people into following a link to http:// goatse . cx (I have deliberately spaced that out. Don't follow it.)
Slashdot has implemented a number of features to try and avoid this. (i.e. listing the domain name beside links) I guess people are still sucessful sometimes, though.
-srw
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I agree. In fact, I often still use it as a reference. Granted, I'm not a university-trained RDBMS expert. Perhaps that wasn't the target audience. As far as I'm concerned, they could have left out mSql entirely (shudder... my first big DB project ever ran on mSql. I eventually converted it to Mysql.) but I guess it makes sense to include it as Mysql grew out of it.
The Amiga was designed and a prototype built by a separate company. They didn't have the expertise to mass-produce it, and so they sold it off to Commodore, who owned MOS and was able to reduce the chip count by building custom chips for it. I'm not sure what the name of the original company was, but the grandparent post definitely has the idea right and the parent post should be moderated "mis-informative" instead of "Informative."
I heard a few years ago about a project to "stereoize" some of these old recordings. Apparently, they would often record multiple records at once with multiple recording machines. (so no, 10000 copies != 10000 performances) This project was attempting to find multiple copies of the same performance, but recorded from different positions in the room. They would then use one recording as left and the other as right. Voila... stereo recordings from before the days of stereo.
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> If I open a "Copee Shoppe" that serves latte and rents computers and just happens to have original CDs that people can make personal copies of while drinking expensive coffee, they'd be on me like a tonne of bricks.
I have thought of doing exactly that. I expect it would require a good lawyer, but read Sections 80 through 82 of the Canadian Copyright Act yourself. It's not a matter of non-enforcement. Copying for personal use is specifically permitted in the Copyright Act.
Your comment is obviously flamebait, but I need to respond to your first sentence. Why not off the internet? Did you read sections 80 thru 82 of the Canadian Copyright Act? Did you notice the limitations listed in section 80? Did it mention WHERE you were permitted to copy from?
I repeat: Section 80 of the Canadian Copyright Act clearly states that we (Canadians) are allowed to make copies of performances of musical works embodied in a sound recording for private use. Check with a Canadian lawyer if you don't believe me. (Actually, check with one BEFORE you believe me, as IANAL. The text is quite clear to the average reader, though.)
Read:
Canadian Copyright Act
In particular, sections 80 thru 82 make it clear that we are already paying for the right to make private copies.
>What's next? Will we not be able to have male and female ends on our 1/4" audio cable for fear of offending the transgendered?
Too late. When I was in tech school 10 years ago I learned the PC terms are jack (or was it plug?) and receptacle. Of course, most of us used "male" and "female" as it made more sense to us.
> (2/365)*360 degrees ((2/365)*2pi radians if you prefer ;), or a whopping ~1 degree
Uhh, that's ~2 degrees. That's where we get degrees from... back from when a year was actually 360 days. (Yes, that part was a troll.)
> This is completely incongruous to your argument. If publishing is expensive / difficult, then short or no copyright is necessary.
You miss the point. There was a time when "publishers" were the only people who could make player piano rolls. The artists (composers) were afraid to "share" their works because the publishers would sell copies of their music and not pay the composer a dime. The publishers FOUGHT copyright laws at the time because they DID NOT WANT to pay the artists. By offering the artist a period of time where they were protected, they could allow the third party to publish their work and still get paid. The whole problem here stems from the fact that the artist was unable to publish their own work and relied on a third party to publish it.
Today the costs of self publishing and self promoting (promoting still less than publishing) are within reach of the artist. If an artist can publish their own work, the whole copyright mess is much less of an issue. THIS is what the *IAA is scared of. They don't matter anymore once people realize it.
I don't buy many CDs anymore, but the last two I bought direct from the artists. I would rather do it that way (the artist gets the bulk of the money) than buy them from RIAA.
> The difference between this and the "EULA"s in the article is that these are legally binding - they're presented before the sale, and they're signed by the purchaser.
What about people who claim it blew onto their property?
> So I still want to know why the original poster cares.
I can't speak for the original poster. And, although I had heard Darl was Mormon, I don't believe it has shaped my view of this story. The original poster does, however, bring up a valid point. Peoples' motiviations are shaped by their worldviews -- whether their worldview is based on a religion or other idealistic system. (eg. Capitalism, Hedonism, Communism, whatever) If we take the time to understand a person's worldview, it can help us to understand that person's motivations. A very practical example of this is the situation in Iraq. I believe the US went in there not fully understanding the worldview of the Iraqi people. With a better understanding of their belief system and worldview, they may have been able to settle things down much more rapidly than they have. (read: get more of the Iraqi people to support their efforts.)
Anyways, back on topic: Just because we know that Darl is a Mormon doesn't mean that we know what his worldview is. I know plenty of Christians with different worldviews. Although I don't know any practising Mormons, I'm sure the same could be said of them. Probably the worst thing that could come out of this is us non-Mormons sitting back smugly thinking "at least he's not one of us."
> Aparently you don't know your Bible very well.
:-)
> As you can see, Ashpenaz is the first SysAdmin listed in the Bible, somewhere between 600 BC and 580 BC.
You got me on that one. Thanks.
Well, SCO might be in trouble there. If you read the book of Acts chapter 8 verses 27 and following, you will find evidence that the Ethiopians had Eunuchs (so they spelled it different...) in first century AD. SCO's timeline doesn't go back quite that far.
> The first "full PC" with a monitor, keyboard, and OS was Radio Shack's TR-80. At thei time I deplored: "Whats the world coming to when people can even build their own PCs anymore?"
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I will have to disagree with that. The TRS-80 Microcomputer System (aka Model 1) came out in August of 1977. Both the Apple 2 (which hooked up to a TV) and the PET 2001 (which had a built-in monitor, keyboard, and tape deck) were unveiled in April 1977.
The TRS-80 probably holds the record for the first mass-marketted general purpose personal computer, as it was sold through Radio Shack's extensive chain, but the Apple and PET definitely beat it to market.
See:
http://scott.saskatoon.com/pet2001
http://scott.saskatoon.com/trs80m1.shtml
> Gas-powered lawn mowers put out far more pollutants per gallon burned than any car on the road today. Slap some regulations on those things and clean them up. You'll do far more to improve the environment than going after cargo trucks.
.049 cubic inch engine really has on the environment? How about my .40? New regulations need to take into account the TOTAL effect of reducing emmissions in a class of engine/vehicle, not just emmissions/gallon.
Nice abuse of stats! How many gallons of gas are burned yearly in lawnmowers? How many gallons of diesel are burned yearly in trucks? Multiply by pollutants/gallon and then we'll talk about which has the most impact.
Recent emmission laws have negatively affected model airplane engines. How much effect do you really think my
> What happens when the spammers start using worms and viruses to create open relays on people you trust?
They already get through whitelists... a few months ago a person I provided free webspace for got a nasty porn spam with my address in the *from*. She was rather concerned. When she contacted me, I found that I had in fact recieved the same spam "from her." What's more, her address was a special purpose address that was only listed on the website I provided for her. A few lines lower on the site was a "Thanks to Scott Walde for providing this webspace for free" with a link to my email address. The only reason I can see for using email addresses found near each other this way is to get through whitelists. (software or human... I often scan the "from" to decide which emails to read.)
--srw
>It's more the alcoholic beverages industry as well as pharma and medical that want marijuana outlawed
I've always figured it might also be the logging industry. Hemp and MJ make great paper and they grow much faster than trees.
Perhaps the cotton industry too: Hemp clothes are a bit rough, but the THC-laden friend's fibers are softer and more comfortable.
--srw
Earl gray is nice, but I really prefer a cup of "Jasmine tea." The kind with no english printed on the carton... just on the sticker added by the importers. I used to go to this little Vietnamese restaurant and the owner would serve us this tea. I finally found out what it was so I could buy it myself. If you're going to try it, make sure you buy a genuine chinese brand. Most of the brands with mostly english printed on the carton or can aren't nearly as fragrant.
-srw
> Its the statement that coffee starts out with less caffiene, and ends up with more, thats so *crazy* to me!
Why is that *crazy* ? If one cup's worth of coffee grounds has 200mg of caffiene in it, and one cup's worth of tea leaves has 300mg of caffiene in it, but the coffee brewing process manages to extract 50% of the caffiene in the grounds, while the tea brewing process manages to extract 25% of the caffiene, you end up with a cup of coffee with 100mg and a cup of tea with 75mg. Why is that so hard to understand?
-srw
> Now all we need is to figure out how to make water have enough tension to hold a person. Hrmm...
Simple. This happens naturally where I live. I simply have to wait until, say, mid-November. The surface tension remains high until some time in spring. It only works for water kept outside or in an unheated building.
-srw
I used to work in a computer store. One of our staff would spend most of the day sitting at a computer in the showroom playing Everquest or whatever other game was new at the time. Another employee would daily replace the grimey mouse pad. Seriously, after 8 hours of gaming the mouse pad would have a very noticable, ugly stain on it.
You downloaded barnyard animals off the Internet?
It used to be sport around here to try and trick people into following a link to http:// goatse . cx
(I have deliberately spaced that out. Don't follow it.)
Slashdot has implemented a number of features to try and avoid this. (i.e. listing the domain name beside links) I guess people are still sucessful sometimes, though.
-srw
I agree. In fact, I often still use it as a reference. Granted, I'm not a university-trained RDBMS expert. Perhaps that wasn't the target audience. As far as I'm concerned, they could have left out mSql entirely (shudder... my first big DB project ever ran on mSql. I eventually converted it to Mysql.) but I guess it makes sense to include it as Mysql grew out of it.
For an interesting discussion of this "discrepancy" check out this link:1 -158.html
http://www.khouse.org/articles/biblestudy/1998040
(Ya, okay, it's a stretch... but interesting nonetheless.)
The Amiga was designed and a prototype built by a separate company. They didn't have the expertise to mass-produce it, and so they sold it off to Commodore, who owned MOS and was able to reduce the chip count by building custom chips for it. I'm not sure what the name of the original company was, but the grandparent post definitely has the idea right and the parent post should be moderated "mis-informative" instead of "Informative."
Note the date... April 26th, 1977 was, as far as I can remember, the introduction date of the Apple ][. What exactly are we celebrating on June 5th?
I heard a few years ago about a project to "stereoize" some of these old recordings. Apparently, they would often record multiple records at once with multiple recording machines. (so no, 10000 copies != 10000 performances) This project was attempting to find multiple copies of the same performance, but recorded from different positions in the room. They would then use one recording as left and the other as right. Voila... stereo recordings from before the days of stereo.