My question is, after Linus called BSD and Mach developers "idiots," does this mean Linus is an idiot too since his kernel requires an entire development cycle just to fix the bugs? The 2.6 line of kernels on a whole have made me lose faith in Linux.
Maybe you should read the fucking article and see that it's not about the damn kernel. The PDC 2003 build had the shell running in managed code as well as a couple of services. Since then, native code has overtaken.NET code. The biggest surprise is that the WinFX API isn't even installed by default in the latest builds.
It's comparing the two products that are available right now. You can buy either the Intel Mac mini or the Windows Media Center. It doesn't matter how much "newer" one is if they're both what's available to a consumer looking in the computer store.
It's not like the Media Center is that old anyway.
Here's the part the AMD fanboys won't tell you--the X2 was overclocked to the speeds AMD will be releasing at the time the new Intel chips are released.
Is there a contract you have to sign that states you must become a blinded AMD fanboy when you post to Slashdot or something?
1.) The "relationship isn't all roses" rumors are just rumors. Another report has an Intel representative saying they love that the new Apple ad mentions Intel so many times.
2.) Of course Apple won't put the Intel Inside stickers on. So?
3.) The Core Duo is full of bugs? And what processor isn't? I guess you missed the thick pages of Athlon64 bugs from AMD's website.
I wish.Mac would include basic WebObjects hosting. There are basically no cheap WebObjects hosting services ANYWHERE. Apple's got the infrastructure and experience; the Music Store is running on WebObjects. I just want to make a simple WebObjects personal site and would subscribe to.Mac if it let me.
But I'll probably subscribe anyway for the iLife '06 integration.
You come back to Slashdot...for the discussion? Egads. Well if you're that much of a masochist, when Digg gets a threaded comment system, what's left for Slashdot?
Something must be really, really wrong with Slashdot's codebase if it's taken a decade just to use HTML4 and CSS...and the moderation system is still the same it was in the 90s. I've heard very bad things about Slashcode.
I don't know, there's just so much wrong with this place...why do we still come? The informed discussion? Ha...bad jokes and false memes.
I've been here longer, and have never gotten a single mod point, thanks to having questioned authority and posted in The Thread (the first major bitchslapping that pissed off the readership).
I've watched this once-fun tech site descend into a hilarious public wank-off session (think I'm trolling? Those are Linus Torvalds' words to describe this place, from the LKML) with a completely broken moderation system that STILL isn't fixed (I've been modbombed multiple times...one time lasted over three months, day after day...I was told by others that people use bots to monitor user pages and use karma-whored accounts to automatically mod comments down).
You used to come here and get technically informed, but now the news has gotten generic and flamebaity.
BUT IT WON'T CHANGE A THING. The editors will ignore you, the sun will rise tomorrow morning, and everything will continue to be exactly the same. And all the users will continue to reload and visit the site, giving pageviews to Slashdot's advertisers. Remember that, as opposed to a community "open source" site like Digg, Slashdot is a closed-system piece of property owned by a corporation called OSTG, run by editors who choose stories that generate high viewerships so they can charge high advertising rates. It's all about ad revenues.
Don't even bother emailing Rob Malda. His responses are usually sarcastic and jerky. Just accept that this site is way past its prime, running on an ancient crufty Perl codebase, only recently making the big ol' switch to freakin' HTML4 with CSS. In 2005. God.
Cue all the apologists who will make claims about Apple "ripping off" other interfaces (without any citations, of course).
Meanwhile, look at this. It isn't just the use of some similar widgets, or a generally similar interface. The interface is exactly the same, aside from the black shade of color. Now playing, source list, browse area, and so on, are all in the exact same places. Even the play and pause button.
As usual, apologists will defend the blatant rip-off and unoriginal ideas and get modded up by iPod-hating OGG lovers...
He's talking about ghosting--that fun way that X11 windows tear when you drag them around.
I have a Mac mini, and my windows aren't sluggish. Moving windows around is entirely GPU-based, and mine are completely smooth (in fact, 10.4.3 sped up all my window animations). There must be something else going on.
The real question is when Windows and Macintosh will catch up to X11, because they are far behind.
Yep, X11 is so far ahead that Apple passed over it and wrote their own WindowServer to avoid all the extra work they would have had to put into changing the code to do what they wanted (according to an Apple dev who posted here on Slashdot years ago). How exactly is Apple "far behind" in this regard? X11 doesn't even have Quartz's built-in resolution independence, Quartz itself using the PDF object graph for display and printing.
Computer games shouldn't exist. They're an attempt to shoehorn computers into something very different to what they were designed for--word processing and spreadsheets.
I don't get Slashdot's irrational fear of AJAX (maybe it's the fact Slashdot itself is stuck in 1998 design-wise). If we threw out everything that's doing something different from "what it was designed for," there wouldn't be any progress in this world.
But go on calling it a "fad," people. The fact is, a lot of standards today were called fads when they first got popular. The cat's out of the bag now. It's stupid NOT to use AJAX. For instance, my site's login form can just pop up an "invalid login" message instead of reloading an entire page just to display an error message. It's nice for the user to have instant feedback, and it's nice for me not to waste bandwidth reloading entire pages for minor page updates.
My favorite feature of Spaces are the URLs for blog entries that looks like ASCII binary. Nothing screams hardcore blogger better than "sZXc385ZCxc8353235" in your address bar.
Well...can you give them a reason why they should want something else?
Your Mozilla/IE example isn't quite applicable because IE is so flawed and crippled compared to Mozilla. iPod may not play Ogg (only people on Slashdot really care about that anyway), but it plays MP3/WAV/AAC/AU/Apple Lossless/MP4/MPG, has the best audio output quality (ever since the Shuffle), and clearly has the best user interface and experience.
The iPod clickwheel is like Mozilla's tabbed browsing. It's hard to imagine not having it.
Right, you took Linus Torvalds' quote out of context, not mine. I apologize for assuming you could figure out what I was talking about. My quote, you simply ignored.
I accept your apology for not making any fucking sense in your original post.
You point out that "Slashdot's comments are widely considered the weakest part of the site". I beleive I called it a worthless anecdote, not only because such a thing is subjective, but also because you presented it as a fact while citing squat.
For you to actually defend the misinformation and false memes that travel in the Slashdot comment system is insane. Didn't cite squat? Hello, Linus Torvalds? I didn't take his quote "out of context." He posted it to the LKML, claiming Slashdot was nothing more than a "public wanking session" where people who don't know what they're talking about get together to mouth off.
You call it "broken", I call it flawed.
What's the difference?
Did you know Overrated and Underrated moderations don't appear in meta-moderation yet still affect someone's karma? This means you can modbomb someone's account by marking them as overrated without any countereffect. This is but one of many wide-as-a-truck holes in the ridiculous -1-to-5 rating system.
I guess what you can't grasp is that my choice of website is not subject to your approval.
I'm sorry, you must have me confused with someone who gives a crap to begin with about your approval. What makes you think I care so much what you approve? If you like such a shitty website, have at it. No matter to me. All the traffic is going to Digg, like I said.
I have my reasons, I've been kind enough to share them with you (even though you're a world-class dick)
Wow, you're so kind! Thanks for sharing your comments! I cherish them always!
, and that's all there is to it. I don't wonder why I visit Slashdot, I sure as shit know exactly why I am here, and it's not for the hot chicks or the cutting edge HTML.
Clearly, you're just attached to the juvenile community here that still thinks--in the year 2005, mind you--that Clippy is still a +5 funny and relevant joke.
Not everyone thinks like you. Get the fuck over it, get the fuck out, or just STFU until you can say something useful.
I love Internet "tough guys." Wow, you're really laying down the law here with such "tough" language! For a second, I almost gave a crap!
Shut the hell up. You're a Slashbot. Get over it and move on. You like a crappy news site with crappy comments and crappy editors who don't give a crap about you. This place is a corporate-owned nightmare, ran by a Linux company with a financial stake in posting pro-Linux biased articles against Microsoft and supporting Linux-using companies like Google. But, hey, if you want to be another sheep in the slaughterhouse line, who gives a crap? We'll all be at Digg while you continue to browse this fantastic HTML4 layout like it's 1999. Seeya.
I didn't take your quote out of context, and you know it.
You said you didn't come to Slashdot for the news, but for the comments. So I pointed out that Slashdot's comments are widely considered the weakest part of the site--that includes the upmodded ones.
I love how you put "broken" mod system in quotes, when the system is CLEARLY broken. A six-level rating system where only one person is all it takes to knock someone down a level?
I'm happy to hear you're staying away from Digg, even though its traffic is surpassing Slashdot's and it has consistently broken stories hours and even days before Slashdot. Almost every single headline on Slashdot today was on Digg hours and sometimes days before. Because I visit Digg, I'd read interesting stuff, then I'd check Slashdot and see a new story...and see that it was already on Digg. Now, imagine this happening all day long...and you being to wonder why the hell you visit Slashdot in the first place.
But hey. If you want to keep visiting a site with an abusive editor who thinks whining about World of Warcraft is front page news, have at it. I'm sure lots of people stayed on the Titanic when it went down.
P.S. When you're done hyperventilating over Microsoft's marketing points, why don't you recognize that the "some crappy blog" you refer to is actually an internal Microsoft employee who uses VS2005, and other employees post as well.
Basically, all you did was list a bunch of features, a bunch of architectures, and then ARBITRARILY decide that suddenly, all the VS2005 criticism was blind hatred of Microsoft. COMPLETELY IGNORING THE CRASHING ISSUES PEOPLE ARE HAVING.
Now there is news that VS2005 is getting a service pack to resolve all these issues. So when can we expect your public apology here for attacking me with your marketing pamphlet?
Okay, then, what's all this talk of being able to crash the IDE with the use of a simple semicolon? Why all the crashes and random quits? Why all the complaints on blogs everywhere (Mini-MSFT has posted a followup with even more comments from beta testers)?
Clearly biased anti-Microsoft articles don't bother you, biased pro-Google articles don't bother you, biased anti-copyright and pro-piracy articles don't bother you, and even Bush slams right in the summary don't bother you.
But don't touch the Democrats! Because then it's "pretty disturbing!"
A friend of mine actually quit Everquest over a forced name change. His name was Marilyn Hanson and while fighting something he was disconnected without warning. When he returned, his name had been changed to a randomly generated one. When he asked GM, he was told that he could not have celebrity name. When my friend asked who Marilyn Hanson was, the GM could not answer, but instead just said arguing wouldn't matter. My friend quit EQ that day.
Marilyn Hanson is an obvious reference to both Marilyn Manson and the group Hanson. Your friend OBVIOUSLY knew that. The GM didn't want to argue because he realized your friend is one of those hair-splitting assholes--"Marilyn Hanson isn't an actual person and you can't name him! Heavens no, who is Marilyn Manson? Who is Hanson? My name clearly had nothing to do with them whatsoever and I resent the accusation...*snicker*"
This is stupid. CmdrTaco has the "Cmdr" prefix, as in Commander. This is not that big a freakin' deal.
Why doesn't CmdrTaco, oh I don't know, write an entry in his Slashdot journal where this belongs?
Why is it front page news where it will replace other more relevant stories out there, like Google's response to the base.google.com rumors (on Digg.com now) or the 15,000 free Microsoft eBooks (also on Digg.com)?
It's such a waste of space and time when there are certainly other much better submissions in the queue besides ten paragraphs of "Blizzard made me change my name in their game." Who CARES?
Am I the only one wondering why and how this is front page news? Could we not get a story about Civilization IV being out to rave reviews? How about some Apple or Google news? Maybe a link to a review of the latest Longhorn build? Blizzard made CmdrTaco change his name in WoW, news at 11! "I'm CmdrTaco and I lost my WoW name. Here are ten more paragraphs describing my emotional pain."
Everyone--please see Digg.com where YOU vote for the stories. You actually get real news and info there, right when it happens.
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My question is, after Linus called BSD and Mach developers "idiots," does this mean Linus is an idiot too since his kernel requires an entire development cycle just to fix the bugs? The 2.6 line of kernels on a whole have made me lose faith in Linux.
Maybe you should read the fucking article and see that it's not about the damn kernel. The PDC 2003 build had the shell running in managed code as well as a couple of services. Since then, native code has overtaken .NET code. The biggest surprise is that the WinFX API isn't even installed by default in the latest builds.
But hey, at least you got to say "z0mg."
What the hell are you talking about?
It's comparing the two products that are available right now. You can buy either the Intel Mac mini or the Windows Media Center. It doesn't matter how much "newer" one is if they're both what's available to a consumer looking in the computer store.
It's not like the Media Center is that old anyway.
Here's the part the AMD fanboys won't tell you--the X2 was overclocked to the speeds AMD will be releasing at the time the new Intel chips are released.
Is there a contract you have to sign that states you must become a blinded AMD fanboy when you post to Slashdot or something?
What a bunch of crap.
1.) The "relationship isn't all roses" rumors are just rumors. Another report has an Intel representative saying they love that the new Apple ad mentions Intel so many times.
2.) Of course Apple won't put the Intel Inside stickers on. So?
3.) The Core Duo is full of bugs? And what processor isn't? I guess you missed the thick pages of Athlon64 bugs from AMD's website.
I wish .Mac would include basic WebObjects hosting. There are basically no cheap WebObjects hosting services ANYWHERE. Apple's got the infrastructure and experience; the Music Store is running on WebObjects. I just want to make a simple WebObjects personal site and would subscribe to .Mac if it let me.
But I'll probably subscribe anyway for the iLife '06 integration.
You come back to Slashdot...for the discussion? Egads. Well if you're that much of a masochist, when Digg gets a threaded comment system, what's left for Slashdot?
Something must be really, really wrong with Slashdot's codebase if it's taken a decade just to use HTML4 and CSS...and the moderation system is still the same it was in the 90s. I've heard very bad things about Slashcode.
I don't know, there's just so much wrong with this place...why do we still come? The informed discussion? Ha...bad jokes and false memes.
I've been here longer, and have never gotten a single mod point, thanks to having questioned authority and posted in The Thread (the first major bitchslapping that pissed off the readership).
I've watched this once-fun tech site descend into a hilarious public wank-off session (think I'm trolling? Those are Linus Torvalds' words to describe this place, from the LKML) with a completely broken moderation system that STILL isn't fixed (I've been modbombed multiple times...one time lasted over three months, day after day...I was told by others that people use bots to monitor user pages and use karma-whored accounts to automatically mod comments down).
You used to come here and get technically informed, but now the news has gotten generic and flamebaity.
BUT IT WON'T CHANGE A THING. The editors will ignore you, the sun will rise tomorrow morning, and everything will continue to be exactly the same. And all the users will continue to reload and visit the site, giving pageviews to Slashdot's advertisers. Remember that, as opposed to a community "open source" site like Digg, Slashdot is a closed-system piece of property owned by a corporation called OSTG, run by editors who choose stories that generate high viewerships so they can charge high advertising rates. It's all about ad revenues.
Don't even bother emailing Rob Malda. His responses are usually sarcastic and jerky. Just accept that this site is way past its prime, running on an ancient crufty Perl codebase, only recently making the big ol' switch to freakin' HTML4 with CSS. In 2005. God.
Cue all the apologists who will make claims about Apple "ripping off" other interfaces (without any citations, of course).
Meanwhile, look at this. It isn't just the use of some similar widgets, or a generally similar interface. The interface is exactly the same, aside from the black shade of color. Now playing, source list, browse area, and so on, are all in the exact same places. Even the play and pause button.
As usual, apologists will defend the blatant rip-off and unoriginal ideas and get modded up by iPod-hating OGG lovers...
Apple owns NeXT, which was one of Steve Jobs' companies after leaving Apple.
He's talking about ghosting--that fun way that X11 windows tear when you drag them around.
I have a Mac mini, and my windows aren't sluggish. Moving windows around is entirely GPU-based, and mine are completely smooth (in fact, 10.4.3 sped up all my window animations). There must be something else going on.
The real question is when Windows and Macintosh will catch up to X11, because they are far behind.
Yep, X11 is so far ahead that Apple passed over it and wrote their own WindowServer to avoid all the extra work they would have had to put into changing the code to do what they wanted (according to an Apple dev who posted here on Slashdot years ago). How exactly is Apple "far behind" in this regard? X11 doesn't even have Quartz's built-in resolution independence, Quartz itself using the PDF object graph for display and printing.
Computer games shouldn't exist. They're an attempt to shoehorn computers into something very different to what they were designed for--word processing and spreadsheets.
I don't get Slashdot's irrational fear of AJAX (maybe it's the fact Slashdot itself is stuck in 1998 design-wise). If we threw out everything that's doing something different from "what it was designed for," there wouldn't be any progress in this world.
But go on calling it a "fad," people. The fact is, a lot of standards today were called fads when they first got popular. The cat's out of the bag now. It's stupid NOT to use AJAX. For instance, my site's login form can just pop up an "invalid login" message instead of reloading an entire page just to display an error message. It's nice for the user to have instant feedback, and it's nice for me not to waste bandwidth reloading entire pages for minor page updates.
Gnome and KDE aren't resource hogs?
My favorite feature of Spaces are the URLs for blog entries that looks like ASCII binary. Nothing screams hardcore blogger better than "sZXc385ZCxc8353235" in your address bar.
Well...can you give them a reason why they should want something else?
Your Mozilla/IE example isn't quite applicable because IE is so flawed and crippled compared to Mozilla. iPod may not play Ogg (only people on Slashdot really care about that anyway), but it plays MP3/WAV/AAC/AU/Apple Lossless/MP4/MPG, has the best audio output quality (ever since the Shuffle), and clearly has the best user interface and experience.
The iPod clickwheel is like Mozilla's tabbed browsing. It's hard to imagine not having it.
Right, you took Linus Torvalds' quote out of context, not mine. I apologize for assuming you could figure out what I was talking about. My quote, you simply ignored.
I accept your apology for not making any fucking sense in your original post.
You point out that "Slashdot's comments are widely considered the weakest part of the site". I beleive I called it a worthless anecdote, not only because such a thing is subjective, but also because you presented it as a fact while citing squat.
For you to actually defend the misinformation and false memes that travel in the Slashdot comment system is insane. Didn't cite squat? Hello, Linus Torvalds? I didn't take his quote "out of context." He posted it to the LKML, claiming Slashdot was nothing more than a "public wanking session" where people who don't know what they're talking about get together to mouth off.
You call it "broken", I call it flawed.
What's the difference?
Did you know Overrated and Underrated moderations don't appear in meta-moderation yet still affect someone's karma? This means you can modbomb someone's account by marking them as overrated without any countereffect. This is but one of many wide-as-a-truck holes in the ridiculous -1-to-5 rating system.
I guess what you can't grasp is that my choice of website is not subject to your approval.
I'm sorry, you must have me confused with someone who gives a crap to begin with about your approval. What makes you think I care so much what you approve? If you like such a shitty website, have at it. No matter to me. All the traffic is going to Digg, like I said.
I have my reasons, I've been kind enough to share them with you (even though you're a world-class dick)
Wow, you're so kind! Thanks for sharing your comments! I cherish them always!
, and that's all there is to it. I don't wonder why I visit Slashdot, I sure as shit know exactly why I am here, and it's not for the hot chicks or the cutting edge HTML.
Clearly, you're just attached to the juvenile community here that still thinks--in the year 2005, mind you--that Clippy is still a +5 funny and relevant joke.
Not everyone thinks like you. Get the fuck over it, get the fuck out, or just STFU until you can say something useful.
I love Internet "tough guys." Wow, you're really laying down the law here with such "tough" language! For a second, I almost gave a crap!
Shut the hell up. You're a Slashbot. Get over it and move on. You like a crappy news site with crappy comments and crappy editors who don't give a crap about you. This place is a corporate-owned nightmare, ran by a Linux company with a financial stake in posting pro-Linux biased articles against Microsoft and supporting Linux-using companies like Google. But, hey, if you want to be another sheep in the slaughterhouse line, who gives a crap? We'll all be at Digg while you continue to browse this fantastic HTML4 layout like it's 1999. Seeya.
I didn't take your quote out of context, and you know it.
You said you didn't come to Slashdot for the news, but for the comments. So I pointed out that Slashdot's comments are widely considered the weakest part of the site--that includes the upmodded ones.
I love how you put "broken" mod system in quotes, when the system is CLEARLY broken. A six-level rating system where only one person is all it takes to knock someone down a level?
I'm happy to hear you're staying away from Digg, even though its traffic is surpassing Slashdot's and it has consistently broken stories hours and even days before Slashdot. Almost every single headline on Slashdot today was on Digg hours and sometimes days before. Because I visit Digg, I'd read interesting stuff, then I'd check Slashdot and see a new story...and see that it was already on Digg. Now, imagine this happening all day long...and you being to wonder why the hell you visit Slashdot in the first place.
But hey. If you want to keep visiting a site with an abusive editor who thinks whining about World of Warcraft is front page news, have at it. I'm sure lots of people stayed on the Titanic when it went down.
P.S. When you're done hyperventilating over Microsoft's marketing points, why don't you recognize that the "some crappy blog" you refer to is actually an internal Microsoft employee who uses VS2005, and other employees post as well.
Basically, all you did was list a bunch of features, a bunch of architectures, and then ARBITRARILY decide that suddenly, all the VS2005 criticism was blind hatred of Microsoft. COMPLETELY IGNORING THE CRASHING ISSUES PEOPLE ARE HAVING.
Now there is news that VS2005 is getting a service pack to resolve all these issues. So when can we expect your public apology here for attacking me with your marketing pamphlet?
Okay, then, what's all this talk of being able to crash the IDE with the use of a simple semicolon? Why all the crashes and random quits? Why all the complaints on blogs everywhere (Mini-MSFT has posted a followup with even more comments from beta testers)?
Here's hoping it went through more testing than VS2005 did...
Clearly biased anti-Microsoft articles don't bother you, biased pro-Google articles don't bother you, biased anti-copyright and pro-piracy articles don't bother you, and even Bush slams right in the summary don't bother you.
But don't touch the Democrats! Because then it's "pretty disturbing!"
From the "story":
A friend of mine actually quit Everquest over a forced name change. His name was Marilyn Hanson and while fighting something he was disconnected without warning. When he returned, his name had been changed to a randomly generated one. When he asked GM, he was told that he could not have celebrity name. When my friend asked who Marilyn Hanson was, the GM could not answer, but instead just said arguing wouldn't matter. My friend quit EQ that day.
Marilyn Hanson is an obvious reference to both Marilyn Manson and the group Hanson. Your friend OBVIOUSLY knew that. The GM didn't want to argue because he realized your friend is one of those hair-splitting assholes--"Marilyn Hanson isn't an actual person and you can't name him! Heavens no, who is Marilyn Manson? Who is Hanson? My name clearly had nothing to do with them whatsoever and I resent the accusation...*snicker*"
This is stupid. CmdrTaco has the "Cmdr" prefix, as in Commander. This is not that big a freakin' deal.
Why doesn't CmdrTaco, oh I don't know, write an entry in his Slashdot journal where this belongs?
Why is it front page news where it will replace other more relevant stories out there, like Google's response to the base.google.com rumors (on Digg.com now) or the 15,000 free Microsoft eBooks (also on Digg.com)?
It's such a waste of space and time when there are certainly other much better submissions in the queue besides ten paragraphs of "Blizzard made me change my name in their game." Who CARES?
Am I the only one wondering why and how this is front page news? Could we not get a story about Civilization IV being out to rave reviews? How about some Apple or Google news? Maybe a link to a review of the latest Longhorn build? Blizzard made CmdrTaco change his name in WoW, news at 11! "I'm CmdrTaco and I lost my WoW name. Here are ten more paragraphs describing my emotional pain."
Everyone--please see Digg.com where YOU vote for the stories. You actually get real news and info there, right when it happens.
This is ridiculous.