These people are remarkably crude considering what their business is. You don't persuade people by hitting them over the head with an idea and whinning to them.
Says the member of a website known for it's anti-"M$" propaganda.
The part of this that I find the most hilarious is this "why do they pirate" question is followed by several minutes of TV commercial style SPAM.
Right, because it has nothing to do with just not wanting to pay for something. It's because of several minutes of commercials. Okay.
Throughout the interview, Valenti demonstrates his ignorance and misunderstanding of fair use.
But let's not forgot Slashdotters demonstrate their ignorance and misunderstanding of fair use as well (i.e., p2p piracy).
Yet I do think it's insane I might own a Linux box, run out and buy a DVD player for movies, and not be able to watch DVDs on the drive that I bought and paid for because of how the whole copy protection thing played out.
Seems that intellectual property and copyright laws are something that Linspire still doesn't seem to have a firm grasp of.
And yet, let's post a Slashdot article decrying the actions of the government in cracking down on warez piracy. 80% of the comments in that article were mindless bitching from pirates who thought the government should have "better things to do" than enforce the law. And when RIAA/MPAA articles come up, suddenly it's bad that they go after individual downloaders (just as Slashdot was saying they should do during the Napster lawsuit years ago). I actually saw the phrase "Copyright Enforcement Militia." I mean, how can you even begin to respond to something like that?
Slashdotters only seem to care about copyrights when it comes to the GPL. Everyone else's are fair game. They're "free advertising" and "sampling."
This is off-topic and I accept moderations as such. Just had to say my piece. Hypocrisy bugs.
Typing in a bunch of random caps doesn't make your argument any more valid. Your entire point is hypothesis. "Well, some APIs are declared obsolete with each new Windows, so that magically means Wordperfect was somehow incompatible in some way."
You still haven't shown that any new version of Windows made the latest version of Wordperfect not work anymore.
...is that I don't have to reformat and reinstall with each new release. You pretty much have to with other distros if you want a sane system, which, amusingly, is completely insane. I don't want to reformat every year.
There actually isn't a new release of Gentoo, just a new release of the installation CDs. You're always up to date with Gentoo, and there's no way to determine a "version number" since you upgrade what you want.
If this was a Windows article about some Linux software running for Windows, and you had made a sarcastic comment about bringing the instability of Linux to Windows, you'd have been modded down as Flamebait within the first five minutes.
Actually, I'd disagree on both points. Most people wouldn't notice if you swapped Windows XP and XPde on their machines until they realized that their desktop had been running for a couple of months without a virus attack bringing their system to its knees.
Yeah, until they went to Wal-mart, brought home a printer, and realized sticking in the Autoplay installer CD does nothing.
Or they tried to install the latest Sims expansion.
Or they wanted to fire up Yahoo Messenger, so they go to the website and download it, unable to install it and blaming it on Windows.
Or they look for "My Documents" or "\Windows\System."
Or...you get the idea. Hell, Linux doesn't even have a binary installation/uninstallation API for its desktops. I don't want to have to rely on GUI hacks like Synaptic or xterm "apt-get" solutions. Give me installer APIs! Why the hell is this being overlooked in favor of more sidebar buttons for KDE or redesigned file selector dialogs in GTK?
I suggest the mods around here visit Anti-Slash daily. They maintain a daily list of troll posts, reposts of +5s from past articles, and other mayhem that they successfully get modded up here on Slashdot, all for their amusement.
You're declaring an economic upswing of dot-coms because Novell is giving away free t-shirts?
Re:The reason MS won the word processor war...
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The reason MS won the word processor war is they stole all the good features from existing products and did no innovation.
Yeah. Hang on, let me click my KDE start menu, play with my taskbar, and use my shell-integrated HTML browser. Oh, damn...
Well, maybe I'll use GNOME with that cool menubar at the top by default...oh.
Well, at least we've got trash can icons...damn.
I'll tell you exactly why Windows won, it's simple
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First, you have IBM PCs. Suddenly, all these clones come out, making "PC-compatibles" (remember that term?) common EVERYWHERE. Cheap, affordable, and spreading like a virus.
Why did Windows win? It provided the best GUI desktop for these PCs that were everywhere, so naturally it ended up being on all of them. It was the best answer to MacOS but for all those cheap PC clones everyone was buying. I remember buying an AST Advantage with good ol' Windows 3.1 on it and playing Myst.
So, naturally Microsoft gets bigger and bigger from the success and Windows becomes commonplace, and then Windows 95 hit--bam, that truly solidified Windows dominance, as it had now become "one with the PC."
It's just a simple matter of cheap PC clones coming out and becoming widespread, and a company putting out a GUI for it that ended up everywhere as a result.
Since when has a new version of Windows magically rendered an older version of WordPerfect unworkable?
Oh, I forgot, the hivemind spread that anti-"M$" meme. Just like the Clippy meme, the BSOD meme, and every other meme that nobody actually has first-hand experience with but merely regurgitates from past ignorant +5 upmods.
It's an apt description of any marketing department.
Start your own business someday when you get out of college and see how much public awareness and advertising suddenly become important. Linux could learn a little about this, being at 1% of usage on Google Zeitgeist and all...
This is part of Microsoft's initiative, reported on Slashdot years ago, to be more open with the public. They're completely honest about it--they wanted employees posting blogs, posting in USENET groups (and they do), and responding to e-mails.
At MSDN, they have them filming little ".NET Shows" that showcase the upcoming Longhorn technologies from the guys who are writing it. In many aspects, Microsoft is much more open than the Slashdot hivemind tells you it is.
It should be said that later, he comes to terms with MS not necessarily on the grounds that they make good product, but that they are a good business. Funny, that.
Kinda like how we come to terms with OSS not necessarily on the grounds that it makes good product, but that it's an idealistic philosophy. Funny that.
It's pretty much the exact same Clippy joke posted to the last OOo article, and it's the same Clippy joke that appears every single time someone mentions word, and Clippy hasn't been on by default since the release of XP over three years ago, and he's easily hidable with a right-click, but hey he's funny and he gives upmods! Mention Clippy!!
I've got news for you: You can't steal something intangible.
Yes, you absolutely, 100% can. It's called intellectual property theft. It's called stealing a potential profit. It's called being an immoral idiot who gets hung up on terminology in an attempt to distract the issue from the fact that you're doing something illegal and immoral against the artists you pretend to be "protecting" from the big, bad RIAA that the artists willingly signed contracts with.
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These people are remarkably crude considering what their business is. You don't persuade people by hitting them over the head with an idea and whinning to them.
Says the member of a website known for it's anti-"M$" propaganda.
The part of this that I find the most hilarious is this "why do they pirate" question is followed by several minutes of TV commercial style SPAM.
Right, because it has nothing to do with just not wanting to pay for something. It's because of several minutes of commercials. Okay.
Throughout the interview, Valenti demonstrates his ignorance and misunderstanding of fair use.
But let's not forgot Slashdotters demonstrate their ignorance and misunderstanding of fair use as well (i.e., p2p piracy).
Yet I do think it's insane I might own a Linux box, run out and buy a DVD player for movies, and not be able to watch DVDs on the drive that I bought and paid for because of how the whole copy protection thing played out.
Seems that intellectual property and copyright laws are something that Linspire still doesn't seem to have a firm grasp of.
And yet, let's post a Slashdot article decrying the actions of the government in cracking down on warez piracy. 80% of the comments in that article were mindless bitching from pirates who thought the government should have "better things to do" than enforce the law. And when RIAA/MPAA articles come up, suddenly it's bad that they go after individual downloaders (just as Slashdot was saying they should do during the Napster lawsuit years ago). I actually saw the phrase "Copyright Enforcement Militia." I mean, how can you even begin to respond to something like that?
Slashdotters only seem to care about copyrights when it comes to the GPL. Everyone else's are fair game. They're "free advertising" and "sampling."
This is off-topic and I accept moderations as such. Just had to say my piece. Hypocrisy bugs.
Typing in a bunch of random caps doesn't make your argument any more valid. Your entire point is hypothesis. "Well, some APIs are declared obsolete with each new Windows, so that magically means Wordperfect was somehow incompatible in some way."
You still haven't shown that any new version of Windows made the latest version of Wordperfect not work anymore.
So use Catalyst to build a stage3 for your other machines.
Funny, I thought Portage DID do 99% of the work for you. In my mind, it's an automated LFS. That's what initially drew me to Gentoo.
...is that I don't have to reformat and reinstall with each new release. You pretty much have to with other distros if you want a sane system, which, amusingly, is completely insane. I don't want to reformat every year.
There actually isn't a new release of Gentoo, just a new release of the installation CDs. You're always up to date with Gentoo, and there's no way to determine a "version number" since you upgrade what you want.
True geeks use BSD.
:)
I'd be using FreeBSD 5.x were it not for the fact that exiting XFree86 froze my entire machine. I'll wait for it to go stable.
Informative, but it sounds like you copy and pasted a press release.
If this was a Windows article about some Linux software running for Windows, and you had made a sarcastic comment about bringing the instability of Linux to Windows, you'd have been modded down as Flamebait within the first five minutes.
Actually, I'd disagree on both points. Most people wouldn't notice if you swapped Windows XP and XPde on their machines until they realized that their desktop had been running for a couple of months without a virus attack bringing their system to its knees.
Yeah, until they went to Wal-mart, brought home a printer, and realized sticking in the Autoplay installer CD does nothing.
Or they tried to install the latest Sims expansion.
Or they wanted to fire up Yahoo Messenger, so they go to the website and download it, unable to install it and blaming it on Windows.
Or they look for "My Documents" or "\Windows\System."
Or...you get the idea. Hell, Linux doesn't even have a binary installation/uninstallation API for its desktops. I don't want to have to rely on GUI hacks like Synaptic or xterm "apt-get" solutions. Give me installer APIs! Why the hell is this being overlooked in favor of more sidebar buttons for KDE or redesigned file selector dialogs in GTK?
Then why did you click "Read More" and reply?
You're arguing with a classic repost.
I suggest the mods around here visit Anti-Slash daily. They maintain a daily list of troll posts, reposts of +5s from past articles, and other mayhem that they successfully get modded up here on Slashdot, all for their amusement.
You're declaring an economic upswing of dot-coms because Novell is giving away free t-shirts?
The reason MS won the word processor war is they stole all the good features from existing products and did no innovation.
Yeah. Hang on, let me click my KDE start menu, play with my taskbar, and use my shell-integrated HTML browser. Oh, damn...
Well, maybe I'll use GNOME with that cool menubar at the top by default...oh.
Well, at least we've got trash can icons...damn.
First, you have IBM PCs. Suddenly, all these clones come out, making "PC-compatibles" (remember that term?) common EVERYWHERE. Cheap, affordable, and spreading like a virus.
Why did Windows win? It provided the best GUI desktop for these PCs that were everywhere, so naturally it ended up being on all of them. It was the best answer to MacOS but for all those cheap PC clones everyone was buying. I remember buying an AST Advantage with good ol' Windows 3.1 on it and playing Myst.
So, naturally Microsoft gets bigger and bigger from the success and Windows becomes commonplace, and then Windows 95 hit--bam, that truly solidified Windows dominance, as it had now become "one with the PC."
It's just a simple matter of cheap PC clones coming out and becoming widespread, and a company putting out a GUI for it that ended up everywhere as a result.
Except that you still didn't prove that a new version of Windows broke the latest version of WordPerfect.
We know there were undocumented Windows APIs. That wasn't the question.
Since when has a new version of Windows magically rendered an older version of WordPerfect unworkable?
Oh, I forgot, the hivemind spread that anti-"M$" meme. Just like the Clippy meme, the BSOD meme, and every other meme that nobody actually has first-hand experience with but merely regurgitates from past ignorant +5 upmods.
The godawful automatic "IntelliSense" word completion in OOo. I turn that off immediately.
But it doesn't matter, because afterword I have this ugly, godawful lightbulb pop up every 30 seconds after seemingly ever keystroke.
I thought it would go away the first times it appeared, but it DIDN'T. Clippy? I haven't seen him in a default Office install since 2000.
It's an apt description of any marketing department.
Start your own business someday when you get out of college and see how much public awareness and advertising suddenly become important. Linux could learn a little about this, being at 1% of usage on Google Zeitgeist and all...
This is part of Microsoft's initiative, reported on Slashdot years ago, to be more open with the public. They're completely honest about it--they wanted employees posting blogs, posting in USENET groups (and they do), and responding to e-mails.
At MSDN, they have them filming little ".NET Shows" that showcase the upcoming Longhorn technologies from the guys who are writing it. In many aspects, Microsoft is much more open than the Slashdot hivemind tells you it is.
It should be said that later, he comes to terms with MS not necessarily on the grounds that they make good product, but that they are a good business. Funny, that.
Kinda like how we come to terms with OSS not necessarily on the grounds that it makes good product, but that it's an idealistic philosophy. Funny that.
'cause everybody loves Raymond.
It's pretty much the exact same Clippy joke posted to the last OOo article, and it's the same Clippy joke that appears every single time someone mentions word, and Clippy hasn't been on by default since the release of XP over three years ago, and he's easily hidable with a right-click, but hey he's funny and he gives upmods! Mention Clippy!!
I've got news for you: You can't steal something intangible.
Yes, you absolutely, 100% can. It's called intellectual property theft. It's called stealing a potential profit. It's called being an immoral idiot who gets hung up on terminology in an attempt to distract the issue from the fact that you're doing something illegal and immoral against the artists you pretend to be "protecting" from the big, bad RIAA that the artists willingly signed contracts with.
Next.