So, what's the problem? Clearly the public has a compelling interest. Rights enumerated in the constitution were never meant to be superior to a compelling public interest.
Actually, the public has a number of competing compelling interests, which is what makes this episode messy and interesting. You note one interest.
A quick list of the ones obvious to me is:
1. An interest in resisting terrorist actions - what you speak for.
2. An interest in the safe and private use of electronic devices - which clashes with 1.
3. An interest in not being forced to do uncompensated work under force of a government order- i.e. a seizure.
4. An interest in the correct and balanced application of government force - many would say balance would be lacking should the FBI prevail here.
If Apple is forced to comply, the public interest is advanced in one area and set back in several.
"Demanding that Apple force its programmers to write custom software THAT DOES NOT NOW EXIST to allow the FBI to break into one particular iPhone is "unreasonable", and I think Cook, and Apple, are correct here."
Exactly. The FBI should have asked. And Apple would have and should have refused, as they have.
Instead, the FBI screwed up and then are trying to strong-arm Apple into repairing the mess the FBI made. Typical overreach and use of force instead of brains.
There's a shortage of developers *at prices he wants to pay*. (Translation - he can get developers elsewhere for cheaper and is happy to dump local grown for imports. And then, makes up stories to create the false impression there is scarcity here.)
I have a "complicated" relationship w ATT. They have done a decent job with my own cell connectivity, but situations like this keep pushing my buttons. Just an hour ago, a new rep at their store offered up a couple of excellent deals I had never heard of. So, now my stance is that the people are good but the company has a ways to go.
"ATT says they will suffer "irreparable harm". They want us to imagine Google will shut down the whole city and blame ATT for it. That would be irreparable. In the real world, those much more minor things that WILL happen are entirely able to be repaired.
"Unless the Court declares the Ordinance invalid and permanently enjoins Louisville Metro from enforcing it, AT&T will suffer irreparable harm that cannot be redressed by recovery of damages. For example, AT&T will be forced to comply with a preempted ordinance, will be improperly subjected to regulators at multiple levels of government, and will suffer a loss of customer goodwill. A permanent injunction will advance the public interest as defined by Congress and the FCC."
No. It's ATT making up a story that others will screw up their equipment. It would be exceedingly poor PR for Google to come in and wreck other people's connectivity and get caught doing it. This is ATT being obstructive, not ATT protecting themselves from big bad Google. And yes, sure, in redoing a whole city, some item will get damaged, at some point, but the kind of scenario ATT portrays is silly.
Right - but only after a massive internet howl started smashing apple's myth of user friendliness. The most valuable part of apple is the myth that they care. Lose that myth and they are just one more big company. The stance on encryption - which I am happy to see - was a great opportunity for them to encourage a change of subject away from the bricking issue.
They want the profits that come from "factory authorized" repair. That's why they make proprietary fasteners that make it difficult for others to do what should be simple fixes. Look up pentalobe fastener. Apple hoped to choke off any chance for indie repair shops to be able to fix iphones, but people started making and selling pentalobe screwdrivers despite apple's attempts to stop the trade.
This fairphone gives the appearance of genuine user friendliness and user repairability. Easy safe access to the internals; easy replacement...
I'm a buyer re craigslist. Bought a used computer recently off Craigslist. No ridiculous pile of tiny denominations. Bank check is an idea but I don't know how someone could tell if a bank check is legit. Cash is pretty much a given.
Ahhh, now you change the terms. You started with "smart people". Now you change that to: "college-educated". Not equal terms. Way back when, "college-educated" also equaled the rich, advantaged segment, they solidly but not unanimously voted republican. Some were smart. Not all. Some were lucky. Some inherited...
Regardless, "Republicans win the votes of the smart people." has always been an incorrect statement. More accurately, republicans won the votes of some smart people in the past and a slightly smaller percentage now. Shades of gray, you know...
Nahhh. Big bills are good to not over stuff your wallet with stupid ones and fives and tens. I'm on the road a lot and do as much purchasing as I can with credit cards, but must carry some cash on the road as I need to know I can get necessities should electronic connections etc break. Fifties and hundreds absolutely have a place. Frankly, I never want to spend them, but like insurance, they are a necessity. I do not need or want the monster bills $1000.00 and up but a couple of fifties and hundreds might buy me a night at a motel or a tire change should I get stuck when there are power/internet outages.
Were the world perfect, and credit card servicing companies always available for every transaction, large and small, with everyone I want to do business with, 24/7... I'd consider changes. Given the total insecurity of our power grid, it's going to be a very long time till I feel safe with just plastic.
Then again, if I am selling something as a private citizen on craigslist or similar, would I take anything but cash? No way. I guess I'd accept a big stack of singles, but why are people making everything harder for the many to prevent malfeasance by the few? Do I want to carry big piles of little notes to buy a used computer? Do I want to inflict them one someone? Not really.
Not to worry. I'm guessing they're Windows fanbois who never even used linux and are just trolling to get people's dander up. Note that such commentary usually comes from ACs.
"Well, most smart people in the US vote Republican, so if you don't, you are probably too young. The college-educated voted for Obama because of the opposition to history of racism and Bush fatigue. But other than that, Republicans win the votes of the smart people."
Nahhh. The folks you listen to and approve of *sound* smart to you. Same as the folks who I approve of sound smart to me. We tend to observe and evaluate from our own biased positions.
Deleted my last living microsoft partition a number of months ago. Long enough I couldn't say exactly when. Mint now runs on all my machines. There was just one single program from the m$ft universe I really really miss. (You can laugh, but it was Access, which with all it's limitations and quirks, does certain things very well, and those were exactly what I needed.) But that wasn't near enough to keep me in indentured servitude. I haven't regretted the change for a second. Small losses and big gains.
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So, what's the problem? Clearly the public has a compelling interest. Rights enumerated in the constitution were never meant to be superior to a compelling public interest.
Actually, the public has a number of competing compelling interests, which is what makes this episode messy and interesting. You note one interest.
A quick list of the ones obvious to me is:
1. An interest in resisting terrorist actions - what you speak for.
2. An interest in the safe and private use of electronic devices - which clashes with 1.
3. An interest in not being forced to do uncompensated work under force of a government order- i.e. a seizure.
4. An interest in the correct and balanced application of government force - many would say balance would be lacking should the FBI prevail here.
If Apple is forced to comply, the public interest is advanced in one area and set back in several.
Interesting, but after one capitulation at whatever price, the rest would be mere price negotiations.
Good point but I think it requires a bit of supposition.
Exactly. The FBI should have asked. And Apple would have and should have refused, as they have.
Instead, the FBI screwed up and then are trying to strong-arm Apple into repairing the mess the FBI made. Typical overreach and use of force instead of brains.
There's a shortage of developers *at prices he wants to pay*. (Translation - he can get developers elsewhere for cheaper and is happy to dump local grown for imports. And then, makes up stories to create the false impression there is scarcity here.)
Poorly written article. Bogus "experts".
The key would be getting caught - and publicized. Other than that, you are right on.
I have a "complicated" relationship w ATT. They have done a decent job with my own cell connectivity, but situations like this keep pushing my buttons. Just an hour ago, a new rep at their store offered up a couple of excellent deals I had never heard of. So, now my stance is that the people are good but the company has a ways to go.
I was wondering about that but thought I was being too paranoid.
"ATT says they will suffer "irreparable harm". They want us to imagine Google will shut down the whole city and blame ATT for it. That would be irreparable. In the real world, those much more minor things that WILL happen are entirely able to be repaired.
"Unless the Court declares the Ordinance invalid and permanently enjoins
Louisville Metro from enforcing it, AT&T will suffer irreparable harm that cannot be redressed
by recovery of damages. For example, AT&T will be forced to comply with a preempted
ordinance, will be improperly subjected to regulators at multiple levels of government, and will
suffer a loss of customer goodwill. A permanent injunction will advance the public interest as
defined by Congress and the FCC."
Buncha lies.
No. It's ATT making up a story that others will screw up their equipment. It would be exceedingly poor PR for Google to come in and wreck other people's connectivity and get caught doing it. This is ATT being obstructive, not ATT protecting themselves from big bad Google. And yes, sure, in redoing a whole city, some item will get damaged, at some point, but the kind of scenario ATT portrays is silly.
We all know advertisers pay sites to display ads. When are they going to pay me to look at their ads?
For my attention? - for bandwidth I have to pay for? - for the wasted time as idiotic unwanted content slows everything down?
Pay me!
Right - but only after a massive internet howl started smashing apple's myth of user friendliness. The most valuable part of apple is the myth that they care. Lose that myth and they are just one more big company. The stance on encryption - which I am happy to see - was a great opportunity for them to encourage a change of subject away from the bricking issue.
They want the profits that come from "factory authorized" repair. That's why they make proprietary fasteners that make it difficult for others to do what should be simple fixes. Look up pentalobe fastener. Apple hoped to choke off any chance for indie repair shops to be able to fix iphones, but people started making and selling pentalobe screwdrivers despite apple's attempts to stop the trade.
This fairphone gives the appearance of genuine user friendliness and user repairability. Easy safe access to the internals; easy replacement...
I'm a buyer re craigslist. Bought a used computer recently off Craigslist. No ridiculous pile of tiny denominations. Bank check is an idea but I don't know how someone could tell if a bank check is legit. Cash is pretty much a given.
Ahhh, now you change the terms. You started with "smart people". Now you change that to: "college-educated". Not equal terms. Way back when, "college-educated" also equaled the rich, advantaged segment, they solidly but not unanimously voted republican. Some were smart. Not all. Some were lucky. Some inherited...
Regardless, "Republicans win the votes of the smart people." has always been an incorrect statement. More accurately, republicans won the votes of some smart people in the past and a slightly smaller percentage now. Shades of gray, you know...
Yup.
All?
Nahhh. Big bills are good to not over stuff your wallet with stupid ones and fives and tens. I'm on the road a lot and do as much purchasing as I can with credit cards, but must carry some cash on the road as I need to know I can get necessities should electronic connections etc break. Fifties and hundreds absolutely have a place. Frankly, I never want to spend them, but like insurance, they are a necessity. I do not need or want the monster bills $1000.00 and up but a couple of fifties and hundreds might buy me a night at a motel or a tire change should I get stuck when there are power/internet outages.
Were the world perfect, and credit card servicing companies always available for every transaction, large and small, with everyone I want to do business with, 24/7... I'd consider changes. Given the total insecurity of our power grid, it's going to be a very long time till I feel safe with just plastic.
Then again, if I am selling something as a private citizen on craigslist or similar, would I take anything but cash? No way. I guess I'd accept a big stack of singles, but why are people making everything harder for the many to prevent malfeasance by the few? Do I want to carry big piles of little notes to buy a used computer? Do I want to inflict them one someone? Not really.
Reducing us to small bills is crazy.
Not to worry. I'm guessing they're Windows fanbois who never even used linux and are just trolling to get people's dander up. Note that such commentary usually comes from ACs.
"Well, most smart people in the US vote Republican, so if you don't, you are probably too young. The college-educated voted for Obama because of the opposition to history of racism and Bush fatigue. But other than that, Republicans win the votes of the smart people."
Nahhh. The folks you listen to and approve of *sound* smart to you. Same as the folks who I approve of sound smart to me. We tend to observe and evaluate from our own biased positions.
Smart people vote on both sides. So do idiots.
Deleted my last living microsoft partition a number of months ago. Long enough I couldn't say exactly when. Mint now runs on all my machines. There was just one single program from the m$ft universe I really really miss. (You can laugh, but it was Access, which with all it's limitations and quirks, does certain things very well, and those were exactly what I needed.) But that wasn't near enough to keep me in indentured servitude. I haven't regretted the change for a second. Small losses and big gains.
"shitposting"... Fine verb!!!!!!!
Yup.
"The school's IT staff said the ransomware penetrated their network through an older server running outdated equipment."
And proceeded to propagate through their network through newer servers running outdated equipment...
Unfortunately lots of folks get taken in when *an official* says something that implies risk and a simple answer.