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Former Disney IT Worker's Complaint To Congress: How Can You Allow This? (computerworld.com)
dcblogs writes: At a congressional hearing Thursday on the H-1B visa's impact on high-skilled workers, the first person to testify was Leo Perrero, a former Disney IT worker. He was overcome with emotion for parts of it, pausing to gather himself as he told the story of how he was replaced by a foreign visa holder. Perrero wondered how he would tell his family that "I would soon be living on unemployment." He paused. The hearing room was still as the audience waited for him to continue."Later that same day I remember very clearly going to the local church pumpkin sale and having to tell the kids that we could not buy any because my job was going over to a foreign worker," he said. But a person who made a case for access to foreign workers was Mark O'Neill, the CTO of Jackthreads, an online retailer. He argued that there is a need for more skilled workers. Competition is so fierce for developers "that my developers' starting salaries have risen by 50% in the last eight years," said O'Neill, and "senior positions command compensation that meets or exceeds even that of United States Senators."
will bring you both President Trump and this kind of misery. As well as more guns. And more shootings. Home of the brave, land of the free. Amurrica, yeah !
Religous speak to God. Insane are spoken to by God. When all shut up, one can finally hear Shostakovich in peace
This does not make sense. If demand is so great and pay is so high, this employee should have no trouble landing a new job, and for more money at that. In fact it should be so easy that the company should not mind helping him out with that. But here he is without any job at all.
Campaign donations. Lots and lots of campaign donations.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
If Mr O'Neill and the rest of these corporate leaders were actually so desperate for qualified tech people, perhaps they could consider starting extensive intern programs. If they failed to get adequate enrollment, they could work with high schools and/or community colleges, and even community outreach programs in economically suffering areas. Detroit comes to mind. Broad areas of the south do as well. They could provide valuable skills to people who wouldnt otherwise reach out to get them and reverse what these companies market as a shortage of talent and bloated wages.
Invest in Americans and quit acting the victim.
"But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it,..." - Nancy Pelosi
I don't disagree with the idea that there may be a requirement for H1B visas to fill positions where there are not enough skilled workers, but something doesn't add up when you bring in H1Bs to replace existing workers. You can't claim there aren't enough and displace the ones you have. That's like saying, "I only have 1 gallon of water, so I need to go get another gallon. But, I'm going to dump out my first gallon when I do." If there really is a shortage, the H1Bs should be added along side the existing employees. If there is a need to remove one of the two, there wasn't really the shortage that was claimed.
If A and B are members of the workforce and A isn't enough, you need A+B not B instead of A. If you are bringing in the workforce of B because you can use the H1B process and the individual's resident only because of employment status to keep their salary lower, you are abusing the purpose of the H1B process and the requests should be denied for violating the reason. In fact, one would think such actions are really a case of filing false federal paperwork to get the H1B applicants.
It's the free market at work. If these jobs keep paying better and better, more and more people will get the training to go into the field and balance it out. But that's not happening because...
I teach computer information science at a college. We have a hard time recruiting students into the program because they pretty much all say they don't want to spend years learning how to be a programmer when all of the jobs are being replaced by foreigners or outsourced overseas.
...after all!
"We need to fire all our current workers to get unskilled workers from other countries and have our current workers train them until the new foreign workers become skilled."
Someone really argued that position with a straight face?
But a person who made a case for access to foreign workers was Mark O'Neill, the CTO of Jackthreads, an online retailer. He argued that there is a need for more skilled workers. Competition is so fierce for developers "that my developers' starting salaries have risen by 50% in the last eight years," said O'Neill, and "senior positions command compensation that meets or exceeds even that of United States Senators."
So... scarcity equals higher price which is bad for business, except when it's business taking advantage of that scarcity. Would Mr. O'Neill complain to congress that we should allow foreign companies to build more Disney knockoffs, because Disney makes more money than some countries? I doubt it.
Mickey mouse owns congress.
Really ?, I have never been paid with a refrigerator full of money
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITI...
Who bailed out the big banks and other failed companies.
What more do you need to know?
Perhaps if you americans would stop acting as USA being the best thing since sliced bread, people would stop believing & invading you?
I'm quite sorry for this guy. Losing your job must be a terrible thing in your society. But "Living on unemployment" doesn't sound so bad to me, but only because I would not be doing it in a ultra-capitalist environment.
From what I see (movies & the internet) USA sounds like a dog-eat-dog society to me, and I'm happy we export our psychopats there, even if they are higly-skilled. Perhpas my view is skewed, I dunno. But I don't want to even find out.
Dear Mr. Perrero,
Your high-paying job is was nothing special. Being replaced by an Indian is just the first step. The next logical step is its complete elimination by AI and automation.
When you were secure in your nice job, you could have updated your skillset and moved higher up the ladder. You value "security" over reward. You were so very risk-averse. You failed, and failure has consequences.
Stop moaning. Everything is working as intended. Yes we are greedy, but greed is good (not as in "a good car" but as in Good, versus Evil). It works.
Signed,
the capitalists.
Competition is so fierce for developers "that my developers' starting salaries have risen by 50% in the last eight years," said O'Neill
Sounds a lot less if you run the numbers! That is only a moderate increase of 5.2% annually, compared to 2.8%-2.9% you need to adjust the budget by on average (!) for all salary increases.
The position and opportunity should be the incentive, not the paycheck
For years we've heard people say they don't want their politicians owned by corporations. Finally, after such a long wait, along comes President Trump. He isn't owned by corporations; he owns the corporations! He doesn't say what they want him to say. He says what he thinks. He proposes ideas that none of the owned politicians have ever been willing to promote. He's willing to cut off the flow of cheap labor that has ruined the American economy. He'll consider deporting illegal aliens, rather than pandering to them. He puts Americans and America first. He's got both the Republican and Democratic parties shitting their pants!
Some people are smart enough to realize right away that he's just the kind of independent president they've always wanted, and they support him. Others, mainly lefties and liberal types, are maybe just too dumb? Instead of seeing that President Trump is exactly what they've been begging for for decades now, they foam at the mouth and mislabel him as a "racist" or "crazy". Their illogical behavior is illogical!
Software developers do actual work, and can't take bribes, er, campaign contributions.
If there is a demand for more skilled workers, then why are companies replacing existing skilled labor with foreign workers on the H1-B visa program? The CTO of Jackthreads makes no sense whatsoever. The H1-B visa program is all about trying to save corporations money at the expense of domestic skilled workers. The argument about a lack of skilled programmers is baloney.
If they don't want to follow the laws then just refuse to enforce the intellectual monopoly laws. Let's see how they like having all of their characters enter the public domain.
I love Jesus, except for his foreign policy.
How is this legal? It's my admittedly weak understanding of H1B law that it can only be used to fill a job position if there are no qualified domestic workers. It sounds very much like a case of Disney replacing a current employee with an H1B visa worker.
I can't believe the bullshit logic.
"We're firing US workers and hiring H1B workers because we need more skilled workers and competition is fierce."
Uh. WHAT?
If they need MORE skilled workers, and the pool of US workers is too small, HIRE FROM THE H1B POOL AND KEEP YOUR EXISTING WORKERS!
But, again, we know this isn't truly about a dearth of talent in the worker pool.
It's actually about a race to the bottom for salaries and the money saved by paying pennies on the dollar to the equivalent of an IT sweat shop. Economizing US workers out of their livelihoods.
And it needs to stop...
Chas - The one, the only.
THANK GOD!!!
offer ted a job?
Mr. Jackthreads says that he pays senior developers $200k. Does anyone actually believe him? In Switzerland, where IT jobs are hard to fill, a good salary for a senior developer might reach at $150k. It's probably about the same in Silicon Valley - and in both cases, that's because the cost of living is pretty high. I want to see his accounts, because I don't believe he pays any of his developers that kind of salary. He's lying, and no one had the guts to call him on it.
Enjoy life! This is not a dress rehearsal.
It's just a way of getting cheap labor.
You are not describing "capitalism" or "capitalist". Good grief go read the fucking books! The reason Capitalism works is because it's balanced on all ends. Workers work for what they get, business owners sell for what they can get, and consumers pay what they consider to be a fair price. For a good amount of US History we had Capitalism, or at least operated very close to those ideas.
When the Businesses dictate everything the system is closer to the old and failed mercantilism which Capitalism replaced. You could also call it fascism, because it's pretty damn close to what Mussolini described as a Fascist economy. Which, by the way, works better than most people think because the US Government is no longer a Constitutional Republic. Except on paper.
They want to take advantage of our government protections (copyright, infrastructure, worker education, etc.) but don't want to pay for the privilege. And these "free trade" H1-B fellating Congresscritter want to sell us up the river. With friends like this, who needs enemies?
And THEM aliens can build a wall, TO KEEP THEM OUT! And make THEM, pay for it!
You think Gates et.al are fighting for "education" in schools? If so, think again. Common Core was brought to you by Gates Foundation truckloads of cash. You can start there. Once you have a good grasp, really look at the code.org "education" and see what it does.
That's only a 5.2% compounded annual growth rate. How is that outrageous?
Perrero's complaints ring hollow to me. Basically "I'm out of a job because I expect to be paid significantly more than someone else who is grateful to do the same work as me for less money!" Solution: take a pay cut or gain the skills needed to acquire a job that isn't going to be filled by a H1B guy.
50% rise in eight years? That's only 1.5^0.125 = 5.2%/year. That's less than the rise in college tuition. For the extremes of the range, there is the ridiculously low CPI of 10% over eight years and the ridiculously high ShadowStats.com of 100% over eight years (view page source to see the hidden value). The geometric mean of those two extremes is sqrt(1.1*2.0)=48%.
Maybe 50% over eight years (5.2%/year) is in fact overstating actual inflation, but it's far from self-evident. By just stating the number and expecting people to be shocked, Mark O'Neill is, intentionally or not, advancing the wage-suppression-through-inflation scam.
He probably isn't very good if he can be replaced by a Visa worker... anyway, what about the Visa worker? If you forbid companies to do this, you are essentially telling the guy to go and pick rice in India. I guess the American worker is superior to deserve such protection, while the indian guy deservers to pick rice.
The problem is that graduate schools (even top MS/PhD programs) are full of Indian and Chinese students who end up working here on H1B. More than 75% of applicants for any job that requires an MS or PhD are foreigners. If you are a US citizen your best bet is usajobs.gov because foreigners are not eligible.
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I'm an Dev-Ops consultant to many large and well known companies in and out of the USA. I outsource all the time, it's what I do and what people seek me out for, it's an unwritten company rule. Everyone is doing it, everyone is going to do it, American's need to suck it up and choose a different career path OR get congress to change the rules and here is why. H1B* Visa's are a joke, you don't need them anymore. The rise of outsourcing shops in these places solve the H1B* issues, If we need to train them, we send someone over, it's that f**king easy, simple and CHEAP. Companies do not need to invest must into off shore infrastructures, most shops already have it in place, you just connect your corporate pipe, VPN system, done.
American
1. BS grad with avg or better GPA (American standard)
2. 5 years of corp experience with the latest fade languages, frameworks and apps
3. Works 1st shift only
4. Wants full benefits
5. Wants Hipster like benefits and perks
6. Has ideas and sometimes challenges ideas
7. Sometimes misses work, can quit during projects, not legally liable to finish work, hard to fire or work around in HRs.
8. Personal investment
9. OTE around $120,000 east coast - $150,000 west coast
India/Malaysia
1. BS grad with avg or better GPA (American influenced standard)
2. Most often a secondary or Masters degree
3. 5 years of corp experience via offshoring/outsourcing with any language, framework and apps you need
4. Works any shift
5. No additional perks
6. Does what is told or outlined in the ASK
7. No sick days, if a resource has to miss, they provide an stand in so no downtime is caused, are legally liable for unfinished work, contract based on SOWs.
8. No personal investment
9. OTE around $5,000 to $10,000 a head
Now, I'm sorry, but If I can put a skilled business analysis in front of an outsourced Dev-Ops team, I can reduce IT costs a ton and keep quality up. This is a Government thing, nothing you or your States can do. Can I will continue to make bank on this until then. Which means at some point someone like me, is coming for your job and it's just a matter of time. I tried to fight the system at first, you can't, no company in the USA sees IT as anything special, Technology people lost their chance. You all didn't stand up and be counted and weighed. Staying at the head of the Tech is just a fade for a few fade people, who get lucky with a fade company. To be honest, no CEO, VP respects an IT person, period.
You have 2 options in the IT world now.
1. Get a startup going from a fade idea and either go gold or get bought
2. Get into Management
3. Get what you can from a company while you can, but plan on being axed any day
This isn't restricted to software either, I just finished outsourcing all Net and Tech Operations for a company as well last year, you can thank The Cloud for that! Anything related to IT I can reduce by 75% while keeping quality negotiable range of +/- 10%.
If jackthreads can't afford to pay the market rates for someone who puts together the infrastructure that *runs their business* then perhaps they can't afford to be in business.
Perhaps Jack-ass-threads (sorry: I *had* to get it out of my system) O'neil should be lobbying congress to reduce the financial debt someone gets to be able to accumulate the education required. Then *more* people capable of doing what they want will be available and the market rate will change.
Instead they all continually argue to erode the pool of skilled people who can do those things. Their short term thinking expects someone else to be on the paying end of capitalism which becomes their argument for more of these visa. I think that's called pissing into the fountain you are drinking from.
This would be an appropriate scenario for an IT Union looking after Professional IT worker's interests by lobbying at a political level about how appropriate H1B visas are in the community. It's the 21st century folks, it doesn't have to be about picket lines and strikes, it could be about an IT Union arguing which legal constructs are acceptable in the community and, which are not to a Senator. Who else do you expect to do it, because you certainly have an example of the type of people having these discussions *against* IT people's interests.
My ism, it's full of beliefs.
You are as clueless as most. STFU. He is a devout christian which is exactly the leadership we desperately need right now.
"Competition is so fierce for developers "that my developers' starting salaries have risen by 50% in the last eight years," said O'Neill, and "senior positions command compensation that meets or exceeds even that of United States Senators.""
At the pretense that it's the unavailability of skilled workers has been stripped away. It is, and always has been, about the money.
that my developers' starting salaries have risen by 50% in the last eight years," said O'Neill, and "senior positions command compensation that meets or exceeds even that of United States Senators."
Gee how much are you making off their backs?
What about the backs of others before and after them?
Do you actually give rim jobs with that mouth?
or do u like the rest of your kind just bend over and let a machine take care of it, while bitching and moaning about how your wealth erodes away as your money is inappropriately spent on such devices.
I have zero empathy for individuals like this..
Nor should there be a place for these lost souls as well. Pathetic
your web site does well sri lanka? do you vacation there?
Disney IS cruel to its employees. I've worked there, I know. I'll just be glad when we can start replacing CEOs, CFOs etc. with H1B visa workers. Just think of how much money we could save on health care if we started replacing CEOs that earn $10,000,000 a year (plus stock options) with someone from, say India, that's willing to do the job for a fraction of that. Maybe then we wouldn't have to pass a law forcing people to buy their product. Sorry, but I have to call b/s on Mr. O'Neill's story too. If there really is a shortage, why FIRE one worker in favor of a cheaper one?
I would vote for the American version of Silvio Berlusconi over Hillary - at least he's overt with this bullshit.
Not only are IT workers being replaced by foreign workers directly, they are typically part of a strategy to funnel work abroad to lower cost.
On the surface, this seems reasonable given that free enterprise is more fair than government meddling.
In fact its just bad public policy. These workers send wealth outside the US. While in theory they pay income tax, they do not pay the full range of social security and many cases state tax. Foreign workers are notorious for cheating on their taxes and claiming exemptions claiming double taxation that are not allowed. By the time the overworked IRS can address the tax cheats they've left the country.
Often these workers are a front for multinational IT companies that flagrantly disobey US law and basic morality. The leaders of these companies openly state that Americans are stupid. Short sighted US companies outsource their IT needs to these companies who make false promises. After mass layoffs and firings, the bottom lines look great for these short sighted companies for a year or two. The toxic C-level executives leap frog to the next larger opportunity bragging about the great job they did increasing profits for their last company, only to leave a smoking ruin behind them. Moreover instead of taking responsibility for their short term strategy, they further falsely aggrandize themselves by saying how things failed after they left because they are so indispensable. The foreign multinational company simply continues to drain its victim company shielded by a bad long term contract while providing at best mediocre service.
The guy from Jackthreads argues that IT salaries are unfairly high. Well that may be true in Silicon Valley, New York and other hot spots for very specific skill sets, the overall statistics just don't support that argument. My recommendation to the Jackthreads guy is to relocate his operations away from what is the most expensive places in the United States (856 Broadway, New York) and stop using the most expensive ephemeral technologies available.
Funneling wealth generated in your country abroad does not promote the welfare of a country's citizens.
The first sentence of the US Constitution obliges the government to promote the welfare of its people - not multinational corporations.
Greed is the root of all evil.
The fact he is being replaced by a foreign guy is not really relevant, you always can be fired for multiple reasons.
What if he was replaced by a cheaper American guy? You can What if he was just downsized? Politicians can pass a law against visas, but they can't against greedy bastard employers, and greedy bastards employers will fire you if that make sense for their bottom line.
And, he complains because is being replaced by a foreign guy. Does he complain when he buys a made in China product, built by cheaper Chinese workers?
Also, he is an Italian American. He is where he is because his Italian great grandfather went to USA and got a job there.
He made a mistake. He took is job for granted. He shouldn't.
We do not have Capitalism in the United States of America any longer
This is a common misconception due to not understanding all the terms involved. Capitalism refers to private ownership of production, which, yes we do still have in the US. What we have less and less of is free and efficient marketplace being replaced by increasingly regulated marketplace.
Devout? He's been married three times! What happened to 'til death do us part"?
If he's what you consider to be a devout Christian, it's no wonder he's happy morons are voting for him
We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security. -- Dwight D. Eisenhower
But a person who made a case for access to foreign workers was Mark O'Neill, the CTO of Jackthreads, an online retailer. He argued that there is a need for more skilled workers.
It used to be you had to be a "government official" in order to get away with deliberately lying to congress. I see that ordinary scumbags are allowed to do that now.
I agree with his position and personally sympathize with him, but I thought that the part about the pumkin sale sounded fishy. Judge for yourself: The part in question "Later that same day I clearly remember going to the local church pumpkin sale..." starts at 2:11.
He's trolling you dude. Here's a guy talking about Trump being a devout Christian when he's so obviously nothing of the sort that even a blithering idiot knows that's not true. Then there's the Shut The Fuck Up acronym. That's not coming from a real Bible thumper.
is tight. I have been looking for work in IT for a while now. I have many years of experiences. No luck. I almost never get a call back. And I rarely get a phone interview. I haven't done a face to face. So there must be an over abundance of IT workers. I have seen ads asking for a dozen or more skills, a Masters, years of experiences offering to pay less than $80K per year. It looks like there is far more IT workers than there are IT jobs. And I think companies like it like that.
I bet that there are a lot of programmers who would be more than happy to be trained to replace him at half of his salary.
Sometimes boldness is in fashion. Sometimes only the brave will be bold.
You missed Florida. Disney World effectively owns their own city (Reedy Creek District) which controls all development, and governance. Their property tax rate to Orange and Osceola counties is minimal compared to the assessed value. Add that up over 40 years.
Not saying this is a bad thing. Disney is a Golden Goose for the economy, and they are not doing anything that any other corporation would do. Companies are constantly being courted by other states to move their headquarters and operations.
When are you going to learn? stop replying to Anonymous Cowards.
Jack of all trades,master of none
A google led to a claim that Jackthreads starting salary is $100K. And that US Senators make $174K.
That doesn't actually sound crazy. I saw an article the other day about garbage workers in NYC making $100K. Was this some result of horrible unionized public-sector runaway overcompensation? No. It was a private company. You have to work at 4AM in any weather. You have to pick up friggin' garbage. People don't want the job. No kid dreams of it. You have to pay $100K these days...in New York where they have high living expenses.
When bankers make $100 million a year, they blithely say it's just the cost of doing business, what you gotta pay to find the right guy, and we made ten billion last year, for which I guess he gets all the credit.
The simple fact that there are many very well run companies (increasingly only in other countries) where the top executives only make a few hundred thousand per year, seems to make no impression on this belief. When Lloyd Blankfein, overseer of then-some-700B in assets for Goldman-Sachs, griped about being forced for one year to make only $10M instead of $100M, his opposite number at the Bank of Canada, with 600B in assets, was Gordon Nixon. Bank of Canada needed no bailouts that year...and Gordon Nixon got a huge bonus for his good stewardship: $10M on top of his regular $1.5M salary. For one year. So if BoC can get good governance for $1.5M a year, why is G/S paying $100M ? Weren't they supposed to be financial geniuses?
I hate the "People vs the Robber Barons" narrative of economic policy; you'd think we could get past 19th-century Labour Movement view of the economy. But guys like Mr. Jackthreads make it hard to break the habit. I'm sure he thinks it's just inherent and "natural" that guys like himself walk away with millions because their ineffable wisdom. It's also completely "unnatural" that anybody else make over $100K per year. When this "unnatural" situation occurs, due to the completely natural process of supply and demand, the "unnaturalness" must be countered by going outside the market to bring in an unbalancing force.
It's impossible not to be reminded of the age of Kings and Princes when one could listen to lectures delivered with a straight face about the Natural Order of Things being the leadership of Natural Leaders designated by divine right over the inherently lowborn people who should know their place.
Is this not the place where the Yelp worker was trashed instead of giving her plight some thoughtful consideration. This is not a defense but rather curiousity at the selective - selfish - nature of these socio-economic debates. I haven't given this much thought but it seems to me that in every such discussion the bigger picture of workers in your country must be considered. Not the case. What I do see is an entrenched class system where the Yelp worker is considered less than human, assigned 100% blame for her situation, while topics like this results in a whole bunch of crying, self-pity, and plea for assistance. A bit of hypocrisy.
You are attempting to take the blame off of the executives and make it appear that HR is incompetent (intentional or not). What happened really is that HR got sent off shore by big companies and turned into a database keyword cross your fingers assembly line system, instead of what it was 30 years ago.
Assembly line type application processing may have been a benefit to assembly line jobs where there were not too many requirements. On technical jobs that require not just specialized knowledge but various levels of interaction with other people? It's a system doomed to fail. If you have doubts you really don't have much experience or many resumes posted. I am called by foreigners 1000 times more than US citizens for jobs, and of those 999 are in a different goddamn State because the foreign people are not taught or told to check Geography.
Oh, and the anti-social hermit who gets along with nobody is a snowflake in the market. The majority of us don't, and could not, work that way.
If you have the right skill at the right time, you can indeed demand a lot of pay. However, a lot of that is luck, and you can't just teach yourself the "in" skill or tool because companies want paid experience in it. It's the old catch-22 that you can't get experience until you've had experience.
MANY things in the new economy are like that: if you are at the top, you seem to get even toppier (at least for a while), while the rest get outsourced, replaced by machines, or stagnate.
Table-ized A.I.
If he wants the highest skilled workers then why do they pay the h1s less wages? He saying they are more skilled.This is all about profit margins. I have no dought what so ever that the Our US government pays part of that H1s wages and healthcare.We don't see the prices slowing or going down for Disney products so where are the saving going? The same place the money they once spend on workers healthcare in their pockets.
Jack of all trades,master of none
Name a business in the US which is not directly controlled by regulation. While you rattle that around in your noggin, if the Government requires every industry to do it their way then private ownership is a fraud, and you have been hoodwinked. Your so called private industry does not own property. The Government can take your house, factory, land, resources, and employees, and they can do each of these using at least dozens of methods. If you behave in a way that the Government does not like, you will be put out of business. Period.
The same "regulated" businesses put politicians in office using lots of cash, so that the same government passes laws to protect their interests and put a boot up your ass if you pose any sort of threat to them.
Free market my ass!
More people vote on God, guns and gays than outsourcing. And as long as big companies pay politicians to help them get re-elected, this - and many other issues like it - fall by the wayside.
That's why they allow it.
"No one will really understand politics until they understand that politicians are not trying to solve our problems. They are trying to solve their own problems -- of which getting elected and re-elected are No. 1 and No. 2. Whatever is No. 3 is far behind". -- Thomas Sowell
"senior positions command compensation that meets or exceeds even that of United States Senators."
Wow, I didn't realize we had such an issue with payroll in Congress.
Perhaps the easiest way for our elected representatives to see this problem is to fucking replace them with H-1B workers as well.
See how they feel when others elect to feed the bottom line as the priority while listening to bullshit excuses as to how it's anything but.
Very rarely lead to charges, especially at that level. Remember the Reagan years and the Pedophile sex ring in the 80s which resulted in NO charges being filed against any politician? Yeah, nothing new here.
The Franklin Cover Up - in case you need something to reference that Reagan gem.
You're an idiot. He'll appoint people that serve the rich, but lobbying will require something other than money.
Owing someone makes you accountable to them...
And the other thing is where did they start? If they started getting paid shit in the first pace, the increase is nothing.
I think this guy is full of shit though. I cannot believe he's having an issue getting people.
"He was overcome with emotion for parts of it, pausing to gather himself as he told the story of how he was replaced by a foreign visa holder."
A job is not an entitlement; it's an economic transaction. Just as you have every right to seek out the best deal you can find when you purchase a home, or a car, or the services of a plumber, tax preparer, or attorney, employers also have every right to seek out the best deal they can find when they purchase services from individuals.
Essentially, this guy is whining about how someone else out-competed him in the marketplace by offering a better deal.
How can you allow this? Mr. Perrero asked the Senate committee members.
And the senators replied, "Well... How much money have you donated to our campaigns Mr. Perrero and how much has Disney?"
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
Not just a Red Herring, but poorly formed irrationality to boot.
why the fuck not. at least the developer is working for his paycheck.. the senator, on the other hand, that's questionable.. besides, those guys get all those lucrative kickbacks, "donations", and cushy jobs after they leave office.. what do veteran developers get? shafted up the ass and replaced with younger workers willing to work for peanuts because they have little-to-no actual job experience.
I saw gasoline for $n per gallon, but then someone else was selling it for $n/2 per gallon, so I bought the cheaper fuel instead. Congress: how can you allow this?!
Its possible there's a huge shortage of Sr. Devs
No there isn't. And when one becomes too senior, work gets harder to find.
The tech job market is dysfunctional because of H1-bs, ageism, and offshoring.
When my employer needs someone, they don't use Dice or any online board, no recruiters, or any outside help. They send an email out to us saying if we know anyone. Two weeks later, we have a new co-worker. We're a .NET Microsoft shop, btw. We are in Metro Atlanta. And they prefer out of work folks (plenty out there) because they can get us cheap. I was out for months and they got me at 40% off of what I was making before.
Start stabbing executives, that'll teach em
Out of hundreds of H1B visa holders that I've worked with, I've yet to meet or work with a single individual who had more technical knowledge than my 7 year old son.
They know nothing and laugh about it when they speak their mouth-full-of-peanut-butter jibberish.
They say "yes" like we use "uh-huh". When asked "do you know how to do this and that?" - we hear "yes" - in their minds they are saying "Duhhhhh, hey Louie".
Costs for custodial maintenance rises by 75% as well, since most of them have never seen a real toilet, used to their slit trenches in communal latrines.
The smell is also quite vile when they sit at tables eating food that they forced the female H1B holders to cook and bring for them to eat, only eating when the "men" are done.
H1B holders are a menace to the health and welfare of American workers.
Making people enter the country LEGALLY, so that they PAY TAXES to support the GOVERNMENT SERVICES THEY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF is not oppressing "legal immigrants". Having a militarized wall to protect US Soil from people attempting to INVADE THE US is further not Oppressing "legal immigrants".
Save the false equivalency where somehow an armed illegal invasion is something we need to protect against, but an unarmed illegal invasion should somehow be allowed. It's a false equivalency. Save the false equivalency where illegal becomes legal when you have a kid while illegally invading a country. By that logic women who have children in jail makes those kids inmates forever. Finally, save the latest bullshit rhetoric about how Canada needs a wall too. We don't have millions of Inuits and Canadian's illegally invading and living in the US.
Clinton has not vowed to defend the US from foreign threats, because Hillary cares about one thing. Hillary. If you can't help her with power based on your position in life, you are subhuman and to be used at her discretion. If you have doubts, how about you volunteer to be the Libyan ambassador? Asshole.
Well why would a gifted senior software developer do less than a US Senator ?
Of course I guess mr O'Neill is try to buy a couple of senators in order to correctly assess the relative value...
You're an idiot.
Terrific analysis! Kudos to you for such an original come-back. I'm humbled.
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--- Jerry Garcia
$100K-$150K min wage (with COL adjustments) + benefits with do a lot to fix even more so for the outscoring places may end billing the end client $125-200K for the same worker.
Where do they think their bread is buttered? Let's find out.
Spoiler: Not Trump.
Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms should be the name of a store, not a government agency.
Wanna fix it?
Get rid of a bunch of regulations, cut taxes on corporations, and make it a positive for a company to hire in the US rather than a burden to do so.
Works every time it's tried, as long as the economy isn't too badly damaged to recover. I reckon we're right on the raggedy edge myself.
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Not trolling. It's called sarcasm and dry wit.
I don't understand all the people who go on and on about unregulated capitalism. What you have in the US, and over most of the world, is an economic system based heavily on easy credit. A system where financial institutions effectively get to print money. You can't not regulate that. Otherwise a bank can loan $100 Trillion that it doesn't actually have to a subsidiary company and then have the subsidiary company pay the loan back a hundredth of a millisecond later, and now the bank has $100 Trillion on its balance sheet. They can do this all day and rack up $8.64 sextillion in a day. How well do you think that's going to work?
I wanted to be a garbage man when i was little. Either that or the Good Humor man. That was back in the days when trash cans were made of metal, and you had to actually pick them up and dump them into the back. It was two man operation per truck. These days it is one man job and largely automated. And I say man because I have never seen a woman do the job.
Here's a a guy OPENLY stating that he doesn't want to pay Americans what they're worth, so he cheats and hires foreigners. Asshole! Mark O'Neill, the CTO of Jackthreads is a traitor to American values!
I can sympathize with those who have lost there job, had difficulty finding work, etc. I actually turned down my dream job out of college over pay. Not because I wasn't offered a great salary (it was higher than I could have reasonably asked). However I knew what I was worth (and so did they). Anyway- I ended up without a job for 6-8 months. Or not a real job. I did the last thing anybody could imagine. I took a $9 / hour tech repair job and worked toward starting a business. It was risky and at first I did apply for a few jobs elsewhere. But honestly my specialist skills are specific enough that you'd have to be in a certain industry to want me @ the salary I'd be demanding (even out of college!! but college didn't give me those skills...).
Anyway- what we need to do is focus on planning better. You shouldn't be entitled to a job. You should be entitled to work. The difference is the government shouldn't be deciding who can and can't work in the US or who can and can't come to the US. Different jobs and fields of work have different risk factors and you should plan for that. If your job can easily be sent overseas maybe it would be a wise move to have some savings! The people who were fired were not low-wage workers from my understanding and shouldn't have any excuse. It sucks to lose your job, but better planning, some retraining, etc should enable one to overcome the competitive market place even when it includes foreign workers. Americans can be competitive if we choose to be. If we choose not to be we will all lose our jobs because more competitive businesses overseas with eat your company's business and go out of business.
Aka the humor almost impossible to convey in text.
honestly? I'd say Bill Clinton, but he was boxed in with rooks for sure.
What do we want our country to be like? Do we bow down to our corporate overloads and let them do anything they want or do we stand up and have some pride for ourselves, and stand up for our families well being? Wasn't America about fighting for our way of life? We used to be fighting other nations, now we're fighting the way corporations want to operate. It's still fighting for our way of life.
Laws are rules for the court, but merely a bottom bar to hit for life. Think beyond laws in your actions always.
Tech companies, like Microsoft, have replaced *far* more US workers than Disney ever dreamed of replacing.
Glad the issue is getting some attention. Bizarre that this, very minor, incident at Disney is being singled out, as if this is the first time it ever happened.
He ain't that big anymore buddy, don't lump him in with the unnamed. He made his fortune when business was business before it was the literal short sale of the American dream... Not one of the global economy puppets... Sure he's an f-tard, sure he's out of touch and sometimes entirely uniformed but... He's going to turn the hill into a war zone... "you're fired". Trump makes me nervous he could be very dangerous to our nation, but he has the same potential as letting the dogs and test gas loose on rioters... It could be very productive, but like any candidate we just have to wait and see how sincere he is...
And however true, you're still dismissive and prejudiced. Obviously that article had been put together to paint mr Sanders in a negative light by somebody... Where's you're disclosure?
Given the House/Senate he had to work with (which was mostly due to Gerrymandering). He calmed Iran down when half our Senators were clamoring for war. He expanded medicare to millions (I've got a buddy with Type 1 Diabetes who owes his life to this) and he snuck a guy into the FCC who allowed net neutrality and open cable boxes.
There's a lot more good stuff he's done. Hilary I'm not so hot on. But I'll take her over Rubio any damn day of the week. She's might be indifferent to me, but Rubio's actively out to get me...
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Seriously. Besides Bernie he's the only candidate on Record who supports Universal Healthcare. He's pro tarrif and anti immigration, but vehemently pro corporate. and pro free trade. I can't tell what the heck he'd do if he was prez.
Hilary is just status quo with some more H1-Bs and we might get a few liberal SCOTUS folks when Tom & Ruth kick the bucket. Now Rubio, that somabictch scares the hell out of me. He's the one candidate I can honestly say wants to grind me bones and make soup. A Rubio presidency would be a nightmare...
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but I actually agree with Ted Cruz on something.
http://www.computerworld.com/a...
His H1B reform bill wants to set a minimum salary on H1B's to make sure it's used to fill vacancies and not cut costs, as well as outlawing "disparagement clauses" in severance agreements that prevent employees from saying anything bad about their ex-employer.
I am pro H1B in general, and the majority of companies in the Bay Area are not using it to replace US workers (there are hundreds of thousands of openings companies are trying to fill, and the starting salaries of many of those are easily in the 6 figures). But clearly there are some companies in the US that abuse the program and there are things that can be done to fix that without throwing it out altogether.
The classical Marxist (or is it Leninist?) description for Sanders' socioeconomic status is "declassed intellectual". An educated, erstwhile middle class, person who has fallen into poverty. Said to be important, albeit unreliable, allies of the working class.
Seems like that should be the easy fix. Problem solved.
An unregulated market does not imply an efficient market, despite your attempts at equating them.
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Excellent point! I was forwarded this information in a email from long-time friend. I had to dig to find the source, which was apparently an editorial from Investor Business Daily - Here is the link. There is no by-line.
"Somebody has to do something. It's just incredibly pathetic it has to be us."
--- Jerry Garcia
According to his LinkedIn account, Leo Perrero was an "Application Developer Specialist" at Walt Disney Parks and Resorts, with his previous job being "Intel Systems Administrator" at IBM Global Services.
Based on his positions and skill recommendations, it looks like he was a SysAdmin mainly, and perhaps did some scripts that got him the "Application Developer Specialist" title.
I appreciate good SysAdmins, but most don't really need a college degree, and actually one of the best SysAdmins I ever met was a high school dropout.
In the upcoming virtualized, cloud world, SysAdmins could be based anywhere, and DevOps is going to reduce the number of admins per server.
You correctly posit that "one side" in the US wants federal control of the education system, but then wrongly presume the "other side" wants corporate control.
First, there's more than two sides in the fight, and second there is another "side" (or group) that includes a large part of the population that wants something else - a return to traditional American education.
Group#1 consists of "establishment" politicians in both parties (but more so in the Democrat party) who get campaign cash from textbook publishers and teachers' unions etc. They generally support an ever-increasing federal role in education with ever-increasing amounts of federal dollars that can be passed-out to preferred groups of campaign contributors in the years between elections. These people are always looking for excuses and offering "modern" fixes for the systemic failures they keep causing. Anybody remember when the solution was "new math"? Remember the switch from "phonics" to "whole language"? Every few years it's a new fad solution offered to the public, along with a new price tag. Now it's "common core"
Group#2 consists of complete corporate tools in both parties (but more in the republican party) who get campaign cash from non-educators who want to get involved in that gravy-train. They know that what group#1 has been doing will not work, but their idea is to have a different group try it (and profit from it). There are some, particularly among the dumb-politician wing of the GOP establishment who do it because they have no tether to a core conservative philosophy and thus simplistically think they need to support anything that's supported by businesses as a way to not be supporting a federal government version.
Group#3 consists of people who remember that education is a LOCAL matter and that the Constitution never mentions it in the list of duties of the federal government. The Constitution explicitly says that anything not listed within the document belongs in the realm of the states, and the citizens themselves. This group wants the feds and all their crackpot schemes OUT of it, and remembers that the generation of Americans that won WWII, broke the sound barrier, invented semiconductors and the modern digital computer, and placed men on the moon were educated in schools that were LOCALLY controlled and spent most of their time teaching kids READING, WRITING, MATH, SCIENCE, HISTORY, and GEOGRAPHY.
People who graduate highschool with a SOLID education in the basics and who know HOW TO THINK can go on to learn anything else. People who are de-educated in the modern polluted-by-campaign-cash and manipulated-by-special-interests system are far less capable of even basic rational discourse. Just look at the current generation of weenies emerging from highschool in the era of "common core".... they hit the college campus unable to handle the idea that anybody thinks differently from their programming and they need "grief counselors" when some speaker appears on campus offering an opposing view on some subject. When you go to hire one of these wretched morons you discover they have few skills and little useable knowledge; I am personally considering trained monkeys as a stop-gap measure before moving to robots (sigh)
It does not HAVE TO make sense. All that is needed is that there are some businessmen or other "experts" who testify in congress to offset the lonely voice of an actual victim of what the corporations want and what their paid hacks on The Hill are paid to want. Then when they increase the H1-B caps and people point out that they themselves hear the testimony of a victim, they will explain that this was one isolated anecdotal case and that they also heard from a number of experts and suffering business leaders who provided a "solid case" for the argument that the economy NEEDS more imported workers.
If pressed REALLY hard, some member of congress will pretend to try to help this one guy who testified land a job, to remove him from the argument.
They'll also possibly use him as an excuse to create more loopholes that pretend to protect Americans like him while actually making things worse. The one thing they will NOT do is actually help him and all the other Americans being hurt by actually reducing or eliminating the H1-B. Oh, if the political fight gets nasty enough they might kill the H1-B, but they will quietly create something even more beneficial to their bosses which the public won't notice for a few years - and they'll name it something other than H1-B.
And yet many books have been written by humorists and we've had satirical publications since a long time. People could easily read and understand them. This can only point to the obvious conclusion that the computer nerd is possessed of inferior intelligence. As we always suspected.
Out of curiosity, I went to his website's careers page
and noticed he's not listing ANY such job openings. Sure does not look like he's having a hard time hiring IT people at ANY price.
> Competition is so fierce for developers "that my developers' starting salaries have risen by 50% in the last eight years," said O'Neill,
Yes, eight years ago many IT and developer salaries were devastated by the housing market collapse, and roughly 6 years before that by the dotbomb. The temporary increase is because the reduced ranks of US workers were forced to do more work individually, and had to be paid more to continue functioning with that higher workload. Less time for commute and less time for families or personal maintenance means higher costs for housing, higher costs for food and for laundry, and higher costs for repair or maintenance of household goods. We've been short of time to cook, to have hobbies, or even to do our own laundry when forced to take over the work previously done by two ore three people.
So now many companies want to replace their most senior workers with cheap foreign workers, *again*, whom we ill have to train and hand off the work to. And in a few years, when the systems collapse form poor maintenance, they'll curse at the results. But the managers who "saved money" will have moved on to other roles, and gotten their 2 quarters of "reduced manpower costs" on their resumes, an dleave the cleanup to the next generation.
Been there, done that, got a lot of money doing the cleanup.
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The real reason they want these worker visas is to not only get access to a cheaper worker pool, they want these cheaper workers to have a chilling effect on IT worker's salaries in general. Every time business leaders say they need these worker's they claim it is because you just cant find them here. That was never the truth. The truth was that even with the massive outsourcing and the globalization of business, first to india, then china, ireland, bulgaria, (as outsourcing becomes big business in a country, labor costs go up, and the bottom feeders go looking for the next cheapest country) These countries all have in common that they have very young populations. Outsourcing, the imperialist business model where one would have managers in usa directing laborers in other countries was fine. Except you still had to pay big $$ for the US manager. So better to import a manager from country XYZ, and let go the US guys. Now one reaches outsourcing Nirvana. Only the top CXOs are local, and their bankers. Surprise, bankers and CXO drones! India and China, they have bankers, too, and they have more money and are smarter and work twice as hard as you!
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Let us also not forget that percentages lie quite handily. Let's say you got a 5% raise every year for a decade.
Well, if you were making $150k/year, you'd be up to about $240k/year. Overall you've gone up nearly 100 grand per year. That's not too bad, and while you're not up with overall "inflation" one should keep in mind that a lot of those prices are loaded at the bottom end for things like groceries and gas, stuff that at $150k you're probably not going too bad for.
Now if you're making only $30k/year. Congratulations, after slugging it out you've not made it up to near 49k/year. You've got up about $19,000. Except at $49k, the cost of those student loans, groceries, mortgages and car payments still hurt *a lot*
Now the median US income is about $52,000. That's per household though, so you and your spouse would have had to nail those 5% raises each and every year to get from there to $81,500... an increase of $31,000. It's not bad, but you'd still better hope those loans were paid off early and you don't need a new car.
Realistically though, you didn't get those raises. The median household income 10 years ago was $46,000. Now it's about $52,000 so all those happy people got the rough equivalent of a yearly 1.1% raise over the last decade.
The good news is that if you saved up to buy a house now... *that* is possibly a bit cheaper than in 2006.
Of course if you bought 10 years ago, that was at the top of the bubble and you've lost value while paying a nice mortgage rate of 6.4% (4.45% after a 5yr renewal). That means on a $200k mortgage you would have paid nearly $100k in just interest alone already. Ouch
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Yes, percentages mask two big factors: generational bias and the basket of goods. With the number of good-paying jobs shrinking due to globalization and automation, the few remaining jobs are going to Boomers and GenX'ers who have experience, shutting out GenY/Millennials and GenZ. At the same time, the basket of goods those younger generations are facing is skewed due to college tuition outpacing average inflation.
Thus the younger generations are facing the double whammy of fewer jobs and a basket more expensive than average. This has led to the term https://www.reddit.com/r/lostgeneration/.
I just stood up for the US national anthem... and this thread made me wonder why I'm bothering to put in the effort.
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The solution is obvious: distribute H1Bs through an auction where companies bid for visas with employee salaries. Whoever pays the highest salary to an h1b worker gets the visa. Then in the end of the year publish the lowest salary that won a visa. If that salary is too low, reduce the number of visas for the next year. Fire all the burocrats who handle the visa process now and save money.
An oft-neglected aspect of capitalism is the use of money to make money. That's what owning the means of production is all about, but another big part is lending for profit.
Almost all of our current economic woes stem from borrowing and lending. People don't want to talk about the usury problem, but if lending for profit were abolished (or capped at, say, 7% interest) people and government would have to be more financially responsible.
Yes, yes we need more people leading us around at the whim of a fairytale.. No, that's exactly the opposite of what we need.
As always you fall to the lowest common possible outcome on slash dot. I am a citizen and tired of corruption and big politics if the republicans nominate anyone other than trump I am voting for sanders. The reason why is simple put your money ware your mouth is or don't take money from corporations. Tired of career politicians why fight term limits. Welcome .....
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Don't you love the business elites? Market forces are great, right? The one exception is when workers benefit. Then we must tip the playing field (again) to advantage employers.
If you've been voting for people who champion "market forces" then allow this.....you've screwed yourself and your family. If you don't vote at all.....you've screwed yourself and your family.
It would be so easy for big software-based companies like Google and Disney to put the funds they pay for lobbyists and politics into continuous training for their developers and to set up intern programs. What they actually want is no-risk freeze-dried instant developers such as those turned out by many schools in India, rather than the broadly based theory-up grads of the US schools. Employers have few compunctions about warehousing those one-trick hires after their skills are obsolete, or subtly brokering them off to another company.
People who can solve problems they have never seen before are not a dime a dozen and will command high salaries wherever they come from.
At the expense of the American people.
First, Trump is a Trojan horse candidate, his sole purpose is to divide the conservative vote, to ensure a Clinton presidency. Those who think Hillary will be indicted are sure to be disappointed, as Loretta Lynch will make NO EFFORT to bring charges against her. The only reason there's only two democratic candidates is because the others have been chased off by the Democrats National Committee, leave only one candidate to oppose Clinton, and he has no chance of winning the nomination. There is enough people against Trump that will cause some Republicans to stay home, while Democratics who don't support Clinton but are opposed to Trump will come out for Hillary. The only hope is people who are opposed to both Clinton and Trump should vote libertarian.
Clinton is a square shooter. Clinton 2016.
Certainly some are sick of the culture warriors. But there are plenty of are all-too-happy to feel self-righteous and better-than as a diversion from the fact that they can no longer afford a double-wide trailer...
Two solutions occur. Either Trump has had his ex-wives killed and replaced by doppelgangers. No great technical problems - or moral ones if you look at it from a Christian perspective. Just as long as you make sure that the target is from some marginally mis-aligned heretic evil barbarian sect. Ref Henry VIII - he got away with it 4 times.
Or, Trump checked out his wives for being brain-dead gold-digging bimbos before marrying them. Dead before marriage, no problem, marriage is null and void. Again, see Henry VIII for precedent.
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Bravo! You defined Trump for what he is. A shallow opportunist who really cannot relate to the man who works at a job and needs his wife's salary to make ends meet.
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1. The pope doesn't think so
2. America is *not* and has never been a Christian state. The Puritans were not running in fear of their lives or ways of life (their foisting of beliefs on others simply wasn't being tolerated and essentially they were told to fuck off). America was founded with fairly explicit instructions to keep church & state separate and we need a leader who will keep it that way
But Cruz? From the sounds of it, he wants to change America in to some kind of Theocracy and bring the equivalent of Christian sharia law (Cruz wife said something about it not too long ago - google it), so, we might as well change the name to Americastan if that all goes down.
Not to mention the whole citizenship issues with both Cruz and Rubio (there will likely be questions about their birth rights to become President, just like Obama).
Those of us in the industry who work hard getting BS degrees, MS degrees, advanced degrees and work for these corporations, can expect as we reach 45+, to be laid-off by worthless managers who do not value experience and expertise. The H1-B visa program is nothing more than a way to screw your highly experienced workers who by course of time have become (by company bean counters) too expensive to keep around. Disney runs a report monthly on salaries of its employees. If you go over the median salary amount, you are targeted as an employee to get rid of. Disney has done this for over 30 years. Rarely is there a salaried employee who actually retires from Disney. Do a study on retired Disney professionals and you will find that only senior management retires, only token numbers ever make it to 20 years plus of service. Upper management of this company should be ashamed of doing this to American workers.
I say do not visit Disney World or its subsidiaries, and try not to see or buy any of their movies; I know this last part may a bit harder, especially if you have kids. Hit 'em in the bottom line.
The CTO's testimony about salaries going up is exactly the problem, H1B visa isn't supposed to be a device to suppress wages at employers' whims. If there's such a shortage of workers, then we should invest domestically in better education, internships and workforce retraining, this seems like it should be a no-brainer, especially given the lousy domestic job market.
The problem here is that everyone wants magic worker elves who run around and magically do all the work it takes to build a business while asking or requiring nothing in return. It's a viral mentality and has fueled addiction to H1B visas.
FTA:
So what is your salary, including bonuses and deferred compensation, Mr. O'Neill? WTF do you do that is so valuable?
*crickets*
H-1Bs were not created to serve this "but smart people are expensive!" purpose. He said it out loud that his company is abusing the H-1B Visa process. He also invited criticism of his own compensation, as well as every other C-level's compensation.
Someone needs to do some digging.
Just stating that I am not for higher taxes, doubt many of you are either, however look at the historical reality
When a company (business owner) got taxed at over 50%, they did not take money out of the company, they did whatever they could to build the company and make it more profitable, knowing the only way to cash out was to sell it one day and retire, when they would finally be taxed at a lower tax rate.
As a consequences of these regressively large taxes, more Americans had jobs that paid significantly more than just a living wage. A very healthy middle class was developed and built...they had money to spend...
You want to get the economy going, you need a very healthy middle class spending and buying American goods and Services. When a foreign entity wants to dump their lower cost goods on the #1 economy in the World (USA), they must pay tariffs that do away with any economic advantage those lower paid foregn employees give them. It is that simple.
There is no free market, never was.
There was never an intention to make anything 'fair'.
Name one thing that has ever been privatized that 5, 6 or even 10 years later, Americans were better off for the privitization? I can not think of a single example.
The economy we are in now, is a direct result of Reagan's trickle down economic policy!
QE an Austerity did not work for any other country, yet that is all the 1% how control 90% of everything will allow to be put forth as a possible solution.
Insanity.
Doing the same things for 20, 30, 40 years and expecting a different result, yea right, NOT.
Always vote, never give up, but BE PREPARED, as those in control, don't want anything to change and their money insures that nothing will change. First it was money is votes (Citizen United vs FEC), next will be money is law (pretty much already there).
Good luck to us all, we will need it.
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Caste system is quite simple to understand; If you're not from my caste, you're non-human to me; I can abuse/exploit/rape/kill you; Caste is present where ever Brahmin is there; We have petitioned US/UK to Expel Brahmin;
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Casteism
I would have been working with the software developed at the company I was currently working at. The questions were surprisingly easy.
I was told they wanted someone with more experience. Yes more experience with the software written where I worked.
1. Legalize insider trading
2. Regulate market capitalization
Casteism
Today, most CEOs take actions to get immediate profits while hurting the company long term. They bail out of the plane after they alight it on fire, and enjoy their golden parachutes. They then move onto another firm and repeat the process.
You only have to pay $60K for that position. So it's easy to say, hey, we didn't find a network security agent with 15 years of experience and a master's degree for our offered $60K. So we have to bring someone over from India. Because there are no qualified American's [willing to work for peanuts].
1) H1B Visa is not tied to a specific company
2) H1B Visa salary has to be the equivalent of the current average for said position of U.S. citizen workers. (In otherwords, the average pay cannot take into account other H1B visa workers)
3) H1B Visa includes a $10K tax per $100K income bracket, this goes to fund free tuition at 2 year colleges so we can have more trained resources.
Starting a speech with a blatant lie... that's a good start for a career in politics.
Long distance service.
I work at an industrial manufacturer. On average one person quits ever two days. We work 6 days a week, 10 hour shifts but recently we started 12 hours 7 days. Why? New guys are training new guys that were trained by new guys. No one knows what they are doing therefore production is dropping hence the suits want us to make up by working us to death... Driving people to quit.
So stop the bitching about work because done guy with a desk job was replaced. I'd like to see him turn wrenches for 70-80 hours a week on night shift with me. I'm 30 years old and my body aches non-stop. Fuck that guys desk job.
And somewhere there's an actual slave who would tell you to STFU because at least you're getting paid. Bosses just looove crabs like yourself.