Open Source developers don't generally need this product. Some of them may feel more secure with it. But when we get to software patents, that may be one that you do need.
They just go to RH because they have a support contract, and make RH fix the problem.
That doesn't work very well for my customer. But I agree that it should work that way. But today you have a better assurance of service if you stick with the main kernel thread.
I have a large customer who refuses to run Red Hat's kernel even when they run Red Hat's distribution. And it's just for the reason that SuSE talks about. The kernel is so far diverged from the main thread of Linux that it's a dead-end, and there's no hope of getting it supported from anyone but Red Hat.I don't know if they meant it as a lock-in play, but it works out that way. And my customer doesn't have patience for Red Hat's support.
If you have a problem and you bring it to the kernel hacker who made the subsystem you're using, it's really very difficult for them to support Red Hat's thread. Generally they just say to look to the vanilla 2.6 kernel.
The problem isn't really SCO. SCO will go away faster than people expected. The real problem is software patents.But I am not saying that you need the coverage, or that it's intended for you. The business people who need it know who they are.
People like John and I have had our email addresses plastered over the entire net so much that it does not matter. If doesn't make a difference any more to post bruce@perens.com, they all have that URL.
In both cases the software is Free. One has the additional goal of preventing use in proprietary software, the other facilitates proprietary software.
If you feel very strongly that proprietary software is inherently a bad idea, you might disagree with my decision. But I'm not on the opposite side of the argument from you. I feel that we will not get the business world on Free Software unless we meet them halfway and allow them to continue to have their proprietary solutions on our platform. Once they are on our platform they will better understand the virtue of Free Software. It is important to have business people on our side, because we have some legal challenges (software patenting, DRM) where we need their political strength.
And I'm not even going to argue with you which GUI is superior. There is very widespread disagreement about that.
In the future why not just make sure people know that certain things only come with purchasing the book?
Because I am in the business of creating a credible book series for Open Source, and you don't say stuff like that if you want credibility with Open Source developers. I can't claim the series is of, by, and for Open Source except for these particular pieces that have restrictive licenses and only come with the book. It would be hypocritical.
That seems like a better deal than depriving users of a non-expiring non-commerical-use Qt 3.x that cannot be found anywhere else.
Troll Tech is welcome to do whatever they want, as long as my name's not on it. And they are welcome to do it with my editor and publisher, and with all of the same source files they used to create this edition.
I thought it was kind of weird that this book came out at the very same time you were trashing Qt as unsuitable for UserLinux.
Yeah. Well, it wasn't so much trashing Qt as picking one GUI. And I came in for a good deal of trashing myself.
Qt is Free Software. No question about that. UserLinux has an even higher standard. The application libraries have to be directly usable in proprietary software without another license.
You know, we made another choice. PostgreSQL over MySQL. And we didn't get abused about that one. Marten Miklos (MySQL CEO) actually thanked me for making that choice instead of attempting to fork MySQL's client libraries so that we could use LGPL versions.
Oh, sorry. It took me a minute to understand the second part of your message. It may be that 5 of the chapters aren't in the Samba CVS yet, but will be soon.
Hm. Please send a specific complaint about the phptr.com version to jht@samba.org (John Terpstra). In the meantime, I think you can go in the Samba CVS and find the "master" copy of the book source there.
I also read the book is released under a special copyright license similar to the GPL ( the Perens License ), so that after a few months the electronic format of the book becomes legally distributable. Is that cool, or what?
Yes. It's the Open Content License. It applies to the printed version today, meaning that you can shove it in a copier if you want and sell the copy, and it will apply to the electronic version when that is released. We usually do that about 3 months after the books reach store shelves. Source and unencrypted PDF will be available as usual.
Unfortunately, I can't say the same for the CD. There is some proprietary software on the CD, I think a Windows version of Qt and some Borland stuff, which isn't really in line with the series policy. But I found out so late that it would have seriously messed things up for the Trolltech folks for me to insist on changes, so I let that go by this time (and made sure it would not happen again).
If you want the phone company to tell people that your phone is out of order, this is what to do: Dial your own number. Wait for the busy signal. Put the line on hold or leave it off the hook.
This is probably why S2's phone has been out of order "for several days".
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Usually it's 90 days after they have shipped through to the bookstore shelves. It might be time for the Mozilla book, I'll ask my editor the next time we chat. It's not yet time for the Qt book.
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Oops. I'll ask roblimo.
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Yes, I will put it up on the web. I think I can show you that Open Source isn't damaging to individual software developers and is of benefit to business and the economy in general. But it is damaging to a Microsoft-style business. Home refrigerators were very damaging to the huge industry that harvested, stored, and transported ice.
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Oops. I thought I sent those off to roblimo. Are you sure?
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Thanks. There are 10 books in the series now, all treated the same as this one - online source and PDF, Open Source license. As far as I can tell, all have at least broken even, and most have made money.
But the fact is that technical book authors are generally writing for some other reason than to get direct income from the book. Most do it for the intangibles - promotion of their own careers or projects they support, etc.
What I like about this series is that the books need never die, since anyone can edit and print them. They don't get into that state where the publisher sells a few hundred copies a year on order and doesn't revert the rights to the author for years. Authors hate that.
But we are careful with timing. We make sure the "pipeline" between the publisher and bookstores is full before the electronic copy is available. So, clone publishers don't have much incentive, as the stores have already filled their orders.
I have to admit that this would not work as well if people liked to curl up with e-books. If that day ever comes, we'll change the strategy, but the end product will still be Open Source books.
If you are very anti-open-source, it's probably because you don't yet understand the ways that Open Source works well for business and business people. I have a paper on the economic basis of Open Source that I'm working on, that you will probably find of interest. It should be out in a week or two.
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You can't get further than the shortest of the two ranges.
Hm. Class 1 is supposed to be 100 meters. Class 3 10 meters. I don't know what class two is supposed to be. But it's bigger than any hotel room I've stayed in lately:-)
First the technical. Right now, Bluetooth works really well (even on Linux) and it's cheap, cheap, cheap. It's still in the running. It's really impressive making a GPRS call to connect to the Internet from my laptop with class 1 bluetooth dongle to my Ericsson t68i anywhere in the room, maybe still in the car. I don't have to move the laptop over to the window to get a good signal any longer.
Second, editorial. We had a series of articles that essentially said "Enderle's stupid and malicious". All this article says is "He's still stupid". Nobody's interested in that.
Well, I've talked this issue out with them regarding OpenOffice, which was supposed to be an entirely strategic play designed to take the profit out of Microsoft's Office ecosystem. And it's been a failure at that so far (although it's shaping up into a good Open Source office suite) because Sun could no longer follow through on their own strategy.
So, I am not expecting them to be as logical as you about this decision.
OK. This is the Java runtime decision matrix for UserLinux. That and google should get you going. And we could use someone who can fill in some of the blanks in that matrix.
If you really want Java to be free, work on the Open Source implementations.
Sun is not in a position to make things free for strategic reasons. Their mandate is that every project within Sun must make money. Period. And yes, I know this will sink the company eventually. They are stuck in a short-term profit mentality and there is little we can do about it.
The Open Source implementations of Java are coming along well, and could catch up with a little help.
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That doesn't work very well for my customer. But I agree that it should work that way. But today you have a better assurance of service if you stick with the main kernel thread.
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If you have a problem and you bring it to the kernel hacker who made the subsystem you're using, it's really very difficult for them to support Red Hat's thread. Generally they just say to look to the vanilla 2.6 kernel.
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If you feel very strongly that proprietary software is inherently a bad idea, you might disagree with my decision. But I'm not on the opposite side of the argument from you. I feel that we will not get the business world on Free Software unless we meet them halfway and allow them to continue to have their proprietary solutions on our platform. Once they are on our platform they will better understand the virtue of Free Software. It is important to have business people on our side, because we have some legal challenges (software patenting, DRM) where we need their political strength.
And I'm not even going to argue with you which GUI is superior. There is very widespread disagreement about that.
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Bruce
Because I am in the business of creating a credible book series for Open Source, and you don't say stuff like that if you want credibility with Open Source developers. I can't claim the series is of, by, and for Open Source except for these particular pieces that have restrictive licenses and only come with the book. It would be hypocritical.
That seems like a better deal than depriving users of a non-expiring non-commerical-use Qt 3.x that cannot be found anywhere else.
Troll Tech is welcome to do whatever they want, as long as my name's not on it. And they are welcome to do it with my editor and publisher, and with all of the same source files they used to create this edition.
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Bruce
Yeah. Well, it wasn't so much trashing Qt as picking one GUI. And I came in for a good deal of trashing myself.
Qt is Free Software. No question about that. UserLinux has an even higher standard. The application libraries have to be directly usable in proprietary software without another license.
You know, we made another choice. PostgreSQL over MySQL. And we didn't get abused about that one. Marten Miklos (MySQL CEO) actually thanked me for making that choice instead of attempting to fork MySQL's client libraries so that we could use LGPL versions.
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Yes. It's the Open Content License. It applies to the printed version today, meaning that you can shove it in a copier if you want and sell the copy, and it will apply to the electronic version when that is released. We usually do that about 3 months after the books reach store shelves. Source and unencrypted PDF will be available as usual.
Unfortunately, I can't say the same for the CD. There is some proprietary software on the CD, I think a Windows version of Qt and some Borland stuff, which isn't really in line with the series policy. But I found out so late that it would have seriously messed things up for the Trolltech folks for me to insist on changes, so I let that go by this time (and made sure it would not happen again).
Next books: Understanding the Linux Virtual Memory Manager next month, and Samba 3 by Example next week! Those are books 9 and 10 in the series.
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This is probably why S2's phone has been out of order "for several days".
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But the fact is that technical book authors are generally writing for some other reason than to get direct income from the book. Most do it for the intangibles - promotion of their own careers or projects they support, etc.
What I like about this series is that the books need never die, since anyone can edit and print them. They don't get into that state where the publisher sells a few hundred copies a year on order and doesn't revert the rights to the author for years. Authors hate that.
But we are careful with timing. We make sure the "pipeline" between the publisher and bookstores is full before the electronic copy is available. So, clone publishers don't have much incentive, as the stores have already filled their orders.
I have to admit that this would not work as well if people liked to curl up with e-books. If that day ever comes, we'll change the strategy, but the end product will still be Open Source books.
If you are very anti-open-source, it's probably because you don't yet understand the ways that Open Source works well for business and business people. I have a paper on the economic basis of Open Source that I'm working on, that you will probably find of interest. It should be out in a week or two.
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Hm. Class 1 is supposed to be 100 meters. Class 3 10 meters. I don't know what class two is supposed to be. But it's bigger than any hotel room I've stayed in lately :-)
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Bruce
First the technical. Right now, Bluetooth works really well (even on Linux) and it's cheap, cheap, cheap. It's still in the running. It's really impressive making a GPRS call to connect to the Internet from my laptop with class 1 bluetooth dongle to my Ericsson t68i anywhere in the room, maybe still in the car. I don't have to move the laptop over to the window to get a good signal any longer.
Second, editorial. We had a series of articles that essentially said "Enderle's stupid and malicious". All this article says is "He's still stupid". Nobody's interested in that.
Bruce
So, I am not expecting them to be as logical as you about this decision.
Bruce
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Sun is not in a position to make things free for strategic reasons. Their mandate is that every project within Sun must make money. Period. And yes, I know this will sink the company eventually. They are stuck in a short-term profit mentality and there is little we can do about it.
The Open Source implementations of Java are coming along well, and could catch up with a little help.
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Bruce