i finally tried konqueror (thanks, debian apt) for the first time a day or so ago and was astoundingly underwhelmed. it is fast (about the same as mozilla at rendering, it seemed), and it looks pretty nice (icons excluded), but it did not do javascript and CSS well at all. mozilla is not fast (interface-wise) and robust yet, but i see much more polish and potential there. konqueror was a nice alternative browser to try, but much less usable than mozilla or even the old netscape. even many basic navigation menus did not work -- which did in IE, NS, MZ.
i never said "there are few examples", i said "found examples aren't any settlement". good point about 'you' in english. and never in an eon would i endeavour or expect to have an invented word replace 'they'. i said i'd like to see it; but the momentum has been too strong the other way for that to happen. i'm sure i will continue to use 'they' in conversation and feel a bit awkward no matter what i use when writing. 8) by the way, i am no anonymouse here
i looked at the pages you cited, and they seem to cite two main justifications of 'themself': famous writers have used the construction, and our language lacks a gender-neutral singular personal pronoun. neither of these suggests we should condone use forms of 'they' (which already has a position) for such a pronoun. i agree that we need one, and i agree that it has long been natural usage in casual conversation (which may well be the context in which most of those famous writers used it), but i would still like to see a new word, rather than muddling an old one. if you have any further links, though, that would be great! all language is beautiful.. ryan
indeed! it also crashes nearly every time when submitting the basic HTTP authentication dialogue information -- just today it did that at least 7 times in a row! and it is definitely not the mail component, because i use the navigator-only version.. most definitely glibc 2.1.
ah well, running potato is more than worth it.. 8)
oh, i'm sorry, i didn't mean to imply that they were already out! i was just showing my appreciation for the promptness in the past. i am sure new.debs'll be arriving soon enough.. i'd guess if they do they'll first show up in
i would like to take this opportunity to publically thank Branden Robinson, Adam Heath, and others for their diligent, super-fast work in creating.debs for the new releases of XFree. great work, everyone, and keep it up! it is much appreciated. 8)
well, afterstep has a "Look" theme named Transparent or something. that took care of the wharf/dock, the root menus, and the title bars. i did change the config files for that theme a little bit, to make it look the way i wanted. if you have root access, you can change/usr/local/share/afterstep/looks/look.Transparent to suit your fancy (or any of the others, for that matter). otherwise, it's in your ~/GNUStep directory somewhere.
the link for the transparent terminals (aterms) is above a couple posts.
actually, if you look closely, the titlebars are transparent (afterstep does that too!); it just doesn't show up very well because of the dark background and the screenshot quality... i did try the aterm version with the transparent scrollbars, but it didn't compile (library issues) so i dropped back down a couple minor versions again. you can see the transparent root menu here as well. agreed about eterm, though! i think it's bloated because it uses that hideous imlib.... aterm is definitely the way to go!
i use afterstep (unfortunately the web site is the ugliest on earth), and one of my favourite features is the transparent wharf and root menus, which when combined with the transparent aterms makes for a nice-looking glassy desktop.
i have been thinking about trying windowmaker, but am wondering if they have or are planning to add more transparency support. anyone have any news? thanks
please ignore this obvious FUD. as any of the countless people who have installed Debian will tell you, it's always:
- boot from floppy/HD/network/CD and configure - reboot (and since kernels aren't hot-swappable all distributions must reboot at least once to replace the boot kernel with the newly-configured kernel (and to test LILO, boot floppy, etc)) - dselect to flesh out the system with packages - enjoy!
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who submitted the quote listed in this article? i don't see anybody attributed.. am i missing something?
nope, i didn't. i checked.
i finally tried konqueror (thanks, debian apt) for the first time a day or so ago and was astoundingly underwhelmed. it is fast (about the same as mozilla at rendering, it seemed), and it looks pretty nice (icons excluded), but it did not do javascript and CSS well at all. mozilla is not fast (interface-wise) and robust yet, but i see much more polish and potential there. konqueror was a nice alternative browser to try, but much less usable than mozilla or even the old netscape. even many basic navigation menus did not work -- which did in IE, NS, MZ.
what was that you were saying again about bad code? 8)
i never said "there are few examples", i said "found examples aren't any settlement". good point about 'you' in english. and never in an eon would i endeavour or expect to have an invented word replace 'they'. i said i'd like to see it; but the momentum has been too strong the other way for that to happen. i'm sure i will continue to use 'they' in conversation and feel a bit awkward no matter what i use when writing. 8) by the way, i am no anonymouse here
i looked at the pages you cited, and they seem to cite two main justifications of 'themself': famous writers have used the construction, and our language lacks a gender-neutral singular personal pronoun. neither of these suggests we should condone use forms of 'they' (which already has a position) for such a pronoun. i agree that we need one, and i agree that it has long been natural usage in casual conversation (which may well be the context in which most of those famous writers used it), but i would still like to see a new word, rather than muddling an old one. if you have any further links, though, that would be great! all language is beautiful.. ryan
ah well, running potato is more than worth it.. 8)
oh, i'm sorry, i didn't mean to imply that they were already out! i was just showing my appreciation for the promptness in the past. i am sure new .debs'll be arriving soon enough.. i'd guess if they do they'll first show up in
http://samosa.debian.org/~bran den/xfree86-334-slink/
but if you really want to know i suggest you ask someone who's actually an authority on the subject.. 8)
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and what exactly was this that Omar Shenker accomplished?
thanks
right -- they're supposed to be wired to the internet and rotated in real time using a debian linux machine... 8)
the link for the transparent terminals (aterms) is above a couple posts.
the background (and a host of other dazzling ones) is from propaganda.themes.org.
most of the wharf applets are stock or i got them from the sites linked from the "applications" (or something) section of the afterstep home page.
feel free to email me if you have other questions!
actually, if you look closely, the titlebars are transparent (afterstep does that too!); it just doesn't show up very well because of the dark background and the screenshot quality... i did try the aterm version with the transparent scrollbars, but it didn't compile (library issues) so i dropped back down a couple minor versions again. you can see the transparent root menu here as well. agreed about eterm, though! i think it's bloated because it uses that hideous imlib.... aterm is definitely the way to go!
i have been thinking about trying windowmaker, but am wondering if they have or are planning to add more transparency support. anyone have any news? thanks
- boot from floppy/HD/network/CD and configure
- reboot (and since kernels aren't hot-swappable all distributions must reboot at least once to replace the boot kernel with the newly-configured kernel (and to test LILO, boot floppy, etc))
- dselect to flesh out the system with packages
- enjoy!