oh, dont think that i disagree with you - i think that programmers (db programmers, in particular) think that they are somehow above "skilled labor" - they arent, they just dont admit it.
if you need to write 40 reports, using whatever (god awful) report-generating tool you've been given, you will need to write the same f'ing thing with FOO's in place of BAR's and 3 characters extra on this line, and the title looking like *this*....
and no, the suits dont want a report generation tool - they want the report, and they needed it yesterday.
let me take a crack at this...Lessee... this Pontiac shows it's running lean on bank 2, the downstream HO2 sensor is lazy changing state... Is it the O2 sensor itself?
>well... bad O2 sensors have a way of glowing bright red when they fail.
Or is it maybe the upstream O2 sensor operating below threshold and causing the lean condition?
>well... what other symptoms does the car have? has the gas mileage changed drastically? how old is it? whats its repair history?
Or is it really the catalytic converter coking up and causing the erroneous reading?
>meh... i cant remember the last time i've had a gm have a problem with the cat coverter at all... and i'm on my second grandam, the first ran until 192k, this one is on 115k, and my buick century is at 185k... and never a cat conv problem........ gm alternators on the other hand, i can change in my sleep.....
Oh wait - maybe it's one of those vehicles covered under a TSB about corrupted EEPROM files... Or maybe the left head temperature sensor has shifted range, making the computer think it's running colder than it is...
> and this is why i absolutely hate having so many damn computers in a car these days... yeh yeh, more accurate, more efficient, and also an expensive pain in the ass when the go schizy... i had to replace an effing wheel bearing in my grand am, and the part was 220 because of the sensor... grumble.
i dont know how you can say that either benz, or volvo is enjoyable - their in the shop so much anymore that you need a second just to have reliable transportation - especially the volvo.
i'll disagree - the buick's are a well-built automobile, --- Buick has surged forward from 3rd to 2nd with a 187 PP100 rating, despite losing 8 positions from its 2003 179 PP100 ranking. The adage "you've got to be good to be lucky" seems appropriate with Buick in this case. ---
i own both a buick and a pontiac, and i have had a string of annoying f'ing problems with the pontiac - i'll never buy one again. not that i actually bought this one, but inherited it from my wife, who's family made her buy it... grumble, long story.
the buick - i absolutely would buy another one - the century price-point beats the pants off of the equivalent camry, and is nearly as reliable. specifically, you cant really get a camry with a 6 cylinder engine for less than 24k, whereas you can get the century for 18k with all the incentives right now.
you can also reasonably expect to run both cars to 250,000 without major problems, too. which is how i like to run my cars.
at the top of the buick line, the park ave. ultra is just shweet....
but - i'm a big american guy, and i like big american cars....
if daimler didnt have such a shitty reliablility rating, i'd be seriously considerring the 300C, whose engine is truly drool worthy. mmmmmm hemi.....
but at 38k, you should be able to... rely on the car, right?
(ever notice how engineers are the pickiest people on earth when it comes to buying cars?)
>I would agree with you if OS's were an >interchangeable commodity product, but they aren't.
Why is a product with a near-zero marginal cost, NOT a commodity?
why is it that this the only "part" of a computer that has not decreased in price. its an infinitely reproduceable string of numbers, yet somehow, this isnt a "commodity".
msft's business model is built on sand, and help up by smoke and mirrors. watch thee crash, it'll be funny.
msft is toast. the writing is on the wall for anyone who is truly paying attention.
they may not be sinking yet, but they've spotted the glacier they're heading into, and are about to realize that they cant adjust enoough their course to avoid it.
exactly - the vast majority of development has to work on exactly one platform, for one task, used internally, never to see the light of day.
when car manufacturers make a car, they tune it to run on their engine, with exsactly one set of data points. and only that configuration, generally any modification involves a ton of work. (certain chip mods aside)
why does every software project need to run with any backend? why does every app need to be infinitely configurable? it doesnt. it needs to do one job, and do it well.
> You should always think about DB and platform >independence as much as you can.
why? in the vast majority of cases, you are writing internal projects, for the company-specified database. why on earth would you not use platform specific features?
you're never going to sell the product, and there is no legitimate reason to go through the extra work to make the product platform independent.
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here's what i want to know:
in PA, they recently passed a law allowing motorcyclists to NOT wear a helmet.
meanwhile, i'm driving a car, and can still get PULLED OVER for not wearing a seatbelt... wtf...
explain that to me.
>in my view socialism, capitalism, communism or any
>other kind of ism can run nicely but it will have
>to have a system of democracy on top of it.
which is why communism and capitalism are only *economic* theories, and not governance theories.
communism != dictatorship any more than capitalism != democracy.
>Lower salaries.
Lower health care costs.
so, the answer was to clean the injectors?
oh, dont think that i disagree with you - i think that programmers (db programmers, in particular) think that they are somehow above "skilled labor" - they arent, they just dont admit it.
i gotta disagree...
if you need to write 40 reports, using whatever (god awful) report-generating tool you've been given, you will need to write the same f'ing thing with FOO's in place of BAR's and 3 characters extra on this line, and the title looking like *this*....
and no, the suits dont want a report generation tool - they want the report, and they needed it yesterday.
that - would be grate for an assembly model.
let me take a crack at this...Lessee... this Pontiac shows it's running lean on bank 2, the downstream HO2 sensor is lazy changing state... Is it the O2 sensor itself?
.... gm alternators on the other hand, i can change in my sleep.....
>well... bad O2 sensors have a way of glowing bright red when they fail.
Or is it maybe the upstream O2 sensor operating below threshold and causing the lean condition?
>well... what other symptoms does the car have? has the gas mileage changed drastically? how old is it? whats its repair history?
Or is it really the catalytic converter coking up and causing the erroneous reading?
>meh... i cant remember the last time i've had a gm have a problem with the cat coverter at all... and i'm on my second grandam, the first ran until 192k, this one is on 115k, and my buick century is at 185k... and never a cat conv problem....
Oh wait - maybe it's one of those vehicles covered under a TSB about corrupted EEPROM files... Or maybe the left head temperature sensor has shifted range, making the computer think it's running colder than it is...
> and this is why i absolutely hate having so many damn computers in a car these days... yeh yeh, more accurate, more efficient, and also an expensive pain in the ass when the go schizy... i had to replace an effing wheel bearing in my grand am, and the part was 220 because of the sensor... grumble.
gosh, that almost makes it sound like its a trade, kindof like an auto-mechanic.
amen.
i'm 29, been driving a century since i was 24, and will probably make the park-ave. ultra my next new car purchase.
comfy ride, quite enough horse power, and frankly, i dont *need* to handle turns like i'm in running LeMans.
and threatening to those little jap and korean cars out there...
as far as american manufacturers go:
gm's make better cars, but ford makes the better truck. the f-150 is really the standard in the industry...
lexus is toyota.
i dont know how you can say that either benz, or volvo is enjoyable - their in the shop so much anymore that you need a second just to have reliable transportation - especially the volvo.
meh.. http://www.auto123.com/en/info/news/news,view.spy? artid=25977&pg=1
linking is retarded today... yay cmdrtaco!
sorry about that....
i'll disagree - the buick's are a well-built automobile,
... rely on the car, right?
---
Buick has surged forward from 3rd to 2nd with a 187 PP100 rating, despite losing 8 positions from its 2003 179 PP100 ranking. The adage "you've got to be good to be lucky" seems appropriate with Buick in this case.
---
i own both a buick and a pontiac, and i have had a string of annoying f'ing problems with the pontiac - i'll never buy one again. not that i actually bought this one, but inherited it from my wife, who's family made her buy it... grumble, long story.
the buick - i absolutely would buy another one - the century price-point beats the pants off of the equivalent camry, and is nearly as reliable. specifically, you cant really get a camry with a 6 cylinder engine for less than 24k, whereas you can get the century for 18k with all the incentives right now.
you can also reasonably expect to run both cars to 250,000 without major problems, too. which is how i like to run my cars.
at the top of the buick line, the park ave. ultra is just shweet....
but - i'm a big american guy, and i like big american cars....
if daimler didnt have such a shitty reliablility rating, i'd be seriously considerring the 300C, whose engine is truly drool worthy. mmmmmm hemi.....
but at 38k, you should be able to
(ever notice how engineers are the pickiest people on earth when it comes to buying cars?)
>Oldsmobile = Buick = Chevy = GM
oh good lord.
one of those product lines (buick) is in the JD Powers top 5 most reliable car lines. the other two arent.
there is an actual difference in those products, and its in the materials, and techniques they use to manufacture them.
now... if you said ford==mercury, you may have had an argument.
(cue the gm vs ford flamewar)
you're talking about an RC, not a beta... theoretically, if no whoppers are found, this is the code they will... release.
the fact that there are this many show stoppers in an RC is absolutely pathetic. especially the SECOND one.
> I guess they figure it they declare it invalid,
>then it must be.
they're just learning from the bush administrations... i mean - they've called the geneva conventions "invalid" for a while now...
whats "goatse" a codename for?
not needing user intervention is the effing POINT of rss.
its like saying - "java is great, except lets make it compiled, and platform specific"
>I would agree with you if OS's were an
>interchangeable commodity product, but they aren't.
Why is a product with a near-zero marginal cost, NOT a commodity?
why is it that this the only "part" of a computer that has not decreased in price. its an infinitely reproduceable string of numbers, yet somehow, this isnt a "commodity".
msft's business model is built on sand, and help up by smoke and mirrors. watch thee crash, it'll be funny.
msft is toast. the writing is on the wall for anyone who is truly paying attention.
they may not be sinking yet, but they've spotted the glacier they're heading into, and are about to realize that they cant adjust enoough their course to avoid it.
meh....
big iron still runs IO-intensive apps, like processing $FOO million credit card bills/month.
x86 hardware just doesnt cut it for this type of an application.
>When the "Christian community" can agree amongst
>itself on the meaning of the gospel,
it would be nice to just agree on which books to include in the thing, and which translation to use.
at least the hebrew pentateuch is still in original language, and hasnt chagned at all...
and theres STILL debate on what that means....
>some of the best musicians out there are Christian rockers.
... (but these chumps today? theyr'e effing horrible)
yeh, handel was amazing... he totally ro>0rd
(donning my judeo-christian mythology hat)
so - god was upset that the angels didnt exactly CHOOSE to worship Him, so He (and She) made a creation with free-will, and intellect.
and then he gets upset that they excersize this free will?
for an all-powerful, all knowing suoper-being, he sure isnt exactly... ya know... mature.
exactly - the vast majority of development has to work on exactly one platform, for one task, used internally, never to see the light of day.
when car manufacturers make a car, they tune it to run on their engine, with exsactly one set of data points. and only that configuration, generally any modification involves a ton of work. (certain chip mods aside)
why does every software project need to run with any backend? why does every app need to be infinitely configurable? it doesnt. it needs to do one job, and do it well.
> You should always think about DB and platform
>independence as much as you can.
why? in the vast majority of cases, you are writing internal projects, for the company-specified database. why on earth would you not use platform specific features?
you're never going to sell the product, and there is no legitimate reason to go through the extra work to make the product platform independent.