bingo has got to be one of the most evil, shocking and terrifying shorts i've ever seen.
i found it on an animated shorts dvd purchased at suncoast. the rest of the dvd is these really funny cgi skits. bingo is the last. first time i saw it, i stared at the tv in disbelief at the end of it. really really evil.
so... i've been sharing it with all my friends... its amazing... after people see the thing once, you can expect a response out of them when all you say is :
however, you're sysadmining parallel isnt what we're talking about. we're talking about end users using desktop systems running linux.
i agree, i would trust a *NIX admin 100x more than your "average" MSCE guy. *note there are quite a few NT admins that actually know what they're doing and can set up a secure, reliable MS system, but the number of "get yer certification in 3 weeks and earn 80k a year as an MSCE *professional*" greatly outnumber them.
i actually think that this is MS's biggest error - dumbing down the administration so much that most of the people running their systems are dumb. I think that most of the instability and security problems comes from sloppy-sloppy admin's moreso than MS's software.
Linux needs a Newbie learning vector. Users that have a skill set that tops out at "Point and click" need to be able to use the system effectively.
we've all been guilty of it, and its time for the insane zealotry to go.
yes, MS is the evil empire. Yes, Linux is the "better" OS.
but nobody wants to use something where they are made to feel stupid when they first sit down and use it.
Help and nurture newbies... Not laugh and ridicule. Leave that up to Mr. deRaadt... he's got enough venom for it.
I'd like to see this linux thing take of to the next level. We need to give the newbies and the less-computer "literate" a better hand, instead of the middle finger.
1) just because stallman is a smelly, long-haired, communist hippie, doesnt mean that HE ISN'T "RIGHT".
2) What are the Bill of Rights and Consitution for? Toilet paper lately. 4th amendment has been gone for years - "war on Drugs" exception. 10th is ignored, 2nd is under attacik... and just TRY to use the 5th... see how far that gets you...
you need "less" *nix guys, because adminstration of *nix boxes scales a whole lot better than NT boxen.
adminning 1 NT box is easier than admin'ing 1 UNIX box.
increase each to 100, and all of a sudden, you need a whole bunch of NT admins to go around and point and click all the boxes, but the unix guy would write a script, and then do it.
i do hear that this disparity is a whole lot less prevalent with 2k, and that the enterprise management is fairly nifty, so this comparison may not hold true anymore.
you, like "real" companies that make "real" products. These kind of companies have accountants that get all hot and bothered because they can reduce the number of screws in a widget by 2, so they can save 3 cents per widget.
"closed source" is an expense. pure and simple.
one day, the bean counters are going to wake up, and say "geezus, we are now paying MS about $500/employee/year just so we our employees can send email, use MS Office and play MineSweeper(tm). On top of that, we have constant hardware upgrades, and our IT staff takes up 20% of our budget, and they are a bunch of high school educated people with a "certification" from microsoft, and no formal college training... and we're paying them on average $60,000 a year on average so they can point and click to keep our network running correctly"
For the VAST majority of businesses, IT is a cost center. It produces no revenue. In times of economic hardship, cost centers get reduced or eliminated.
The economic argument is a good one, dont underestimate it. Companies are not going to roll over and play nice forever. they bought MS's line of shit that using MS products will "make" them money. Watch. Its coming. I know of one Utility that is looking at their IT budget, thats at 20% of total expenditures and saying "wtf, we arent in the computer business, why are we spending so much money on it".
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"stacy"
i found it on an animated shorts dvd purchased at suncoast. the rest of the dvd is these really funny cgi skits. bingo is the last. first time i saw it, i stared at the tv in disbelief at the end of it. really really evil.
so... i've been sharing it with all my friends... its amazing... after people see the thing once, you can expect a response out of them when all you say is :
however, you're sysadmining parallel isnt what we're talking about. we're talking about end users using desktop systems running linux.
i agree, i would trust a *NIX admin 100x more than your "average" MSCE guy. *note there are quite a few NT admins that actually know what they're doing and can set up a secure, reliable MS system, but the number of "get yer certification in 3 weeks and earn 80k a year as an MSCE *professional*" greatly outnumber them.
i actually think that this is MS's biggest error - dumbing down the administration so much that most of the people running their systems are dumb. I think that most of the instability and security problems comes from sloppy-sloppy admin's moreso than MS's software.
Linux needs a Newbie learning vector. Users that have a skill set that tops out at "Point and click" need to be able to use the system effectively.
its close... but it aint there yet.
(do you know how long i've been waiting until someone "got" my sig ?)
do you mean that since MS windows has been around, since everyone knows it, that we should just use it because people are "used" to it?
or is it that you want an 31337 system?
there will always be newbies. always.
gonna have to pull out those BOFH sotries to get some more ideas...
we've all been guilty of it, and its time for the insane zealotry to go.
yes, MS is the evil empire. Yes, Linux is the "better" OS.
but nobody wants to use something where they are made to feel stupid when they first sit down and use it.
Help and nurture newbies... Not laugh and ridicule. Leave that up to Mr. deRaadt... he's got enough venom for it.
I'd like to see this linux thing take of to the next level. We need to give the newbies and the less-computer "literate" a better hand, instead of the middle finger.
2) What are the Bill of Rights and Consitution for? Toilet paper lately. 4th amendment has been gone for years - "war on Drugs" exception. 10th is ignored, 2nd is under attacik... and just TRY to use the 5th... see how far that gets you...
up to 40% faster !!!
wow... its really late...
seriously folks... can we stop with the cutesy recusive acronyms and G- or K- named projects...
its a bit chilidish
however, the MSCE gravy train is probably at an end-road... Businesses are going to want college graduates instead of test taking "professionals".
]305] ?
its late in the day on a friday... give me a break
lets use the SDK and build all sorts of applications using free tools... release them under GPL, and flaunt it...
wanna bet they never prosecute?
WOcka Wocka WOCKAAAAAA!
if ya cant name 3 3AreZ groups that were around when it was /almost/ cool to speak in hacker, you havent been around long enough...
kids these days.
no respect i tell ya...
and now i hit the "post anonymously" button
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adminning 1 NT box is easier than admin'ing 1 UNIX box.
increase each to 100, and all of a sudden, you need a whole bunch of NT admins to go around and point and click all the boxes, but the unix guy would write a script, and then do it.
i do hear that this disparity is a whole lot less prevalent with 2k, and that the enterprise management is fairly nifty, so this comparison may not hold true anymore.
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what i am talking about here is the average level.
on average, on a scale of 1-10, it is my opinion that your "average" NT admin is about 2-3, and your average *NIX person is 4-5.
i have also found that the number of admins is usually with *NIX much less than you need with NT.
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most companies DON'T make money off of software.
you, like "real" companies that make "real" products. These kind of companies have accountants that get all hot and bothered because they can reduce the number of screws in a widget by 2, so they can save 3 cents per widget.
"closed source" is an expense. pure and simple.
one day, the bean counters are going to wake up, and say "geezus, we are now paying MS about $500/employee/year just so we our employees can send email, use MS Office and play MineSweeper(tm). On top of that, we have constant hardware upgrades, and our IT staff takes up 20% of our budget, and they are a bunch of high school educated people with a "certification" from microsoft, and no formal college training... and we're paying them on average $60,000 a year on average so they can point and click to keep our network running correctly"
For the VAST majority of businesses, IT is a cost center. It produces no revenue. In times of economic hardship, cost centers get reduced or eliminated.
The economic argument is a good one, dont underestimate it. Companies are not going to roll over and play nice forever. they bought MS's line of shit that using MS products will "make" them money. Watch. Its coming. I know of one Utility that is looking at their IT budget, thats at 20% of total expenditures and saying "wtf, we arent in the computer business, why are we spending so much money on it".
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however, you need 3-4 times the number of MSCE's, coupled with the fact that teh skill level and knowlege of MSCEs is so much lower than a *NIX guy.
but hey - thats what you get when you dumb down server admin to be point and clickable.
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CMYK it doesnt do... i think that its because adobe has a patent on it...
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just a thought.
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I have yet to play a "bad" game from them... some are "more to my tastes"... but even those, i havent thought were bad.
damnit.... whens warcraft 3 coming out...
too much time on my hands this week...
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