- At the dotcom, I worked 50-70 hours a week. Refusing the work was not an option. Even though I made 20% more money at the dotcom job, I made LESS PER HOUR then at the Union.
Horseshit. Refusing is always an option. If the boss wants to fire you for having a life, you're a moron to continue working for them. Sounds like you were in a losing job (as were most dotcom jobs) and just didn't want to leave because of the big stock carrot dangled in front of you.
- You can still get bonuses based on merit and goals.
Depends on your union. My partner's union just disallowed this. Can you believe that?
Because Windows (at least not without Terminal Services or Citrix) is not multiuser
I hate to defend win, but that's just a semantic arguement. Windows will provide services to multiple users at different security levels at the same time, whether it be printing/fileservices, webservices, or whatever other crap they do (I bet that they can do C# services and that kinda junk).
VNC on Windows acts as a simple remote control program a la PCAnywhere.
Which is all that's needed for remote admin.
I wouldn't be suprised if Windows refused to boot without a video card either.
That's true, but I very rarely take my Apache server out for a drive, or serve web-pages with my fridge...
Oh, but you would if you could, wouldn't you? And I bet you'd overclock the damn thing until it couldn't keep the milk fresh for more than a day:-)
As for my original point - a steering wheel may be easier to use in some cases than a CLI, but it's still not simpler.:)
How do you figure that? A steering wheel only goes right and left. Not so for a CLI. What's simpler, a bicicle, or a CLI? I'm thinking that there are a lot more folks that are able to bike than CLI. I'm thinking they learn a bike faster than a CLI, too. I'm thinking that the same is true for [well done] GUIs.
Hell, have you ever tried to help a user use a GUI? How about a CLI? Which was easier to explain how to use (simpler)?
Oh, and unless you believe in a deity of some sort (as I realize many people do), nothing in life exists for a "reason".
I have another FreeBSD box that doesen't *have* a video card, and, of course, it servers KDE over VNC just fine. When I show it to MCSE types - theh sit there and stare. "b..b..but... I doesen't have a video card! How does it do that?"
As if windows can't do that? With VNC, no less? Maybe you'd need a card to set it up - I don't know, but I'd bet that the machine you use did when you installed it, too (though I won't bet $ on that:-)
Actually, I have launched VNC blind on a windows box. Wait, now I'm just sounding like a sick bastard...
The OpenOffice project is NOT (I think) inspired by Office X. Rather, it is coming from the PC world to the Mac world. Remember the initial Mac port of Office? People bitched about how horrible it was for months, if not years.
Personally? Office on the PC is fugly. Office X, *slightly* less so. Man, does it piss me off that I can't do cmd-shift-s in word to do "Save As", which is standard for the platform...
I know the point is not looks, it is to get work done. But my god, are you guys *trying* to make it have the ugliest most combersome interface possible? If so, mission accomplished.
Well, it is trying to compete with Office, so you're probably not far off the mark:-)
Hum. I wonder what you think "high end" is? From store.apple.com: --- Dual 1 GHz PowerPC G4 256K L2 cache & 2MB L3 cache per processor 2.0GB DDR SDRAM @ 266MHz 4x120GB Apple Drive Modules CD-ROM drive ATI Graphics Card Dual Gigabit Ethernet Two USB ports Three FireWire ports --- OK, there's bigger hardware out there, but I'm thinking that 2G RAM and nearly.5TB disk is big enough to do an awful lot of work. This is well above IBM's own pSeries bottom end, though it obviously is nowhere near the top. The bottom line is, unless you've got HUGE amounts of data, it seems reasonable that you could go with Apple and DB2.
Yes, HUGE is a relative term, but how many businesses fit into the "it's enough for us" category. Hell, if they're selling it on Linux PC's, why not Apple, too?!?
I'd love to hear from anyone who has used TUTOS - both good and bad. I installed it once and was not impressed. Then again, I've never installed any team software bofore or since - so you might not want to listen to me...
So have you been retraining the system as you get more spam
I continue to train.
or did you train it initially and leave it that way. How large is your training set?
I started off with a base.
Details! My training set was 300 spams and 3500 not-spams.
I started with a little more than 300 spam, and around 1000 valid messages. My count is now: Good messages read: 1194 Bad messages read: 644
That's because I only train on deleted mail, and I don't tend to delete my mailing lists except for once a month or 2...
With digrams, my filter traps 618 out of 621 spams in my spam folder, which is 99.5%
Against my start set, I nailed about 97%, including refiling 2 false positives from my old anti-spam system as being not spam. I've noticed that the system is really good at nailing stuff it already knows about, but the learning curve is a little steep for 'new spam types'. Still, I'm pretty happy with it.
I implemented Paul's system without the changes you mentioned, and am seeing >95% success (and climbing). 0 false positives. I will be submitting it to sourceforge this week.
5. The MS monopoly (and Intel's and AMD's respective complicity in that monopoly) can make sure that Palladium is available almost everywhere at once.
I think you meant to say "almost nowhere at once." How many DVD payers are out there that don't support this? M$, Intel, and AMD are not going to replace my DVD player.
Don't think so. The powers that be will not be able to convince all of the consumers in the world, let alone America, that they have to toss their current DVD player in the garbage. Not when they just got through begging them to go to DVD from VHS.
I feel an irrational loyalty to linux. I feel that, since Linus and Stallman, and all of those other guys who wrote free software for me to use, wrote such good software that I really enjoy using, I almost have a duty to use it.
If it makes you feel better, you could call it GNU/OSX. It's running on almost all the same tools, after all:-) I don't know if there are any C projects left at Apple that use a compiler other than GCC...
This must be the same feeling that kept those mac guys sticking to the old MacOS for 15 years, even after better operating systems came out.
Dunno. I always thought that was something of a co-dependent thing. Or maybe some kinda inferiority complex.
Does this make me irrational?
Probably. But, as a good friend of mine says, "Everyone is crazy. Most folks are crazy in different ways than everyone else. Deal with it."
Hell. If you like what you use, don't go changin':-) Linux never did it for me - everything was... bumpy. Yeah, you could get from point a to b, but the ride wasn't any fun for me, and I had to do a lot of planning. With OSX, it's so easy to get from a to b, it sometimes feels like it's the same place.
Ya ever been to a new airport and said "Hey, isn't this the airport I just left? It feels the same, works the same; did I really go anywhere?" OSX is like that in a good way - except for some of the old-school OS9ish apps, and the M$ apps. They all feel the same and work the same. You get from one to the other with no problem. I guess not everyone's travel experiences are that smooth, but you get what I mean. Maybe.
ipjohnson already answered most of your questions. But I'll do it too, and include some links.
What if I don't want to pay over US$100 each time Apple releases a new version of OSX?
Like he said - don't upgrade. There are folks who hack their darwin kernel (opensource) and live with whatever version of OSX they want to. I figure that it's worth the money to run a well kept system. By way of comparison, the latest round of OpenSSL issues: on my freebsd box I had to recompile the whole system. On my OSX box I got an auto-update and rebooted. Maybe you're into compiling entire systems, but I'd rather not.
What if I just don't like Aqua?
Doubtful - most folks do like it. But if you don't, you could always just run X (see also fink.sf.net)
What if I like free software? (I know that most of OSX is open, but not all of it.)
Essentially, the kernel is open, as are all the unix libs. The stuff that is not open is the window system, carbon (os9 api's), and Cocoa (old NeXTstep api's). Again, see fink.sf.net for a whole slew of apps that have been ported (mostly X stuff).
What if I want to develop software that runs on more than one OS?
Use Java. OK, IT WAS A JOKE! Again, fink.sf.net shows how easy it is to do this. Please get OSX and help them port more stuff - I'd love that:-)
I still haven't had a chance to try OSX. It might be wonderful for me, it might not.
I hated the mac. Never owned one until OSX shipped. Unix, a great windowing system, and great API's (cocoa, not carbon), I get to run the cool apple i-apps and xemacs. My server still runs FreeBSD on an Athlon - mostly because that's the iron I have sitting around. But that OpenSSL mess sure pissed me off. I'm pretty sure my next server will be OSX, but that's probably 1-2 years off, still.
You've heard it all before. Give it a shot. yadda yadda yadda.
But wait until you have OSX on your desktop. Why would you even want to dual boot? Yeah, there are probably a few apps that only run on Linux, but how many? Not wanting to start a flamefest or anything, what apps do you think you'd miss?
Not that I do, but if you have a display that's around 4000+ / 2500+, those 64x64 cursors start to look about right. Smaller ones are nearly impossible to see.
If you get a new email message that has a bunch of "non spam" words in it, it seems likely that it will not be marked as spam. As the article said, spammer's vocabulary is really limited.
I'm not crazy about the idea of sending out confirm e-mails...it makes me feel like a bit of a spammer myself, especially if the incoming spam contains a from: address of some poor unsuspecting sap.
In more than half a year of using ask, I have yet to have that problem.
Also, I worry just a little bit about non-technical people 'not getting it'.
I have dumbed down my confirmation message a little. I WAY dumbed down my mom's confirmation message...
My primary concern comes from the fact that most of the spams I recieve are either Korean or English, while most of the legitimate mails are in Norwegian. Sending me Korean mail is pointless anyhow, but I fear that simply the _use_ of English will make his scheme produce lots of false positives.
I don't get it. Does Korean spam use something other than WORDS to communicate? Or do their mail headers look any different than Norwegian ones? What makes you think your deleting Korean spam, and thus marking those Korean words (heck, all of them) as spam will be a problem? The filter gets built up for the user, based on the user's email. How could this not work for you? Why would marking of a few English words as not being spam be a bad thing?
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You ARE kidding, right? I just set up 3 bug db's for project's you're working on. Bet you didn't know that. Bet you never will.
- At the dotcom, I worked 50-70 hours a week. Refusing the work was not an option. Even though I made 20% more money at the dotcom job, I made LESS PER HOUR then at the Union.
Horseshit. Refusing is always an option. If the boss wants to fire you for having a life, you're a moron to continue working for them. Sounds like you were in a losing job (as were most dotcom jobs) and just didn't want to leave because of the big stock carrot dangled in front of you.
- You can still get bonuses based on merit and goals.
Depends on your union. My partner's union just disallowed this. Can you believe that?
Because Windows (at least not without Terminal Services or Citrix) is not multiuser
I hate to defend win, but that's just a semantic arguement. Windows will provide services to multiple users at different security levels at the same time, whether it be printing/fileservices, webservices, or whatever other crap they do (I bet that they can do C# services and that kinda junk).
VNC on Windows acts as a simple remote control program a la PCAnywhere.
Which is all that's needed for remote admin.
I wouldn't be suprised if Windows refused to boot without a video card either.
Which is just FUD. I'll bet $20 that it can.
That's true, but I very rarely take my Apache server out for a drive, or serve web-pages with my fridge...
:-)
:)
Oh, but you would if you could, wouldn't you? And I bet you'd overclock the damn thing until it couldn't keep the milk fresh for more than a day
As for my original point - a steering wheel may be easier to use in some cases than a CLI, but it's still not simpler.
How do you figure that? A steering wheel only goes right and left. Not so for a CLI. What's simpler, a bicicle, or a CLI? I'm thinking that there are a lot more folks that are able to bike than CLI. I'm thinking they learn a bike faster than a CLI, too. I'm thinking that the same is true for [well done] GUIs.
Hell, have you ever tried to help a user use a GUI? How about a CLI? Which was easier to explain how to use (simpler)?
Oh, and unless you believe in a deity of some sort (as I realize many people do), nothing in life exists for a "reason".
Unless you believe in cause and effect.
I have another FreeBSD box that doesen't *have* a video card, and, of course, it servers KDE over VNC just fine. When I show it to MCSE types - theh sit there and stare. "b..b..but... I doesen't have a video card! How does it do that?"
:-)
As if windows can't do that? With VNC, no less? Maybe you'd need a card to set it up - I don't know, but I'd bet that the machine you use did when you installed it, too (though I won't bet $ on that
Actually, I have launched VNC blind on a windows box. Wait, now I'm just sounding like a sick bastard...
The OpenOffice project is NOT (I think) inspired by Office X. Rather, it is coming from the PC world to the Mac world. Remember the initial Mac port of Office? People bitched about how horrible it was for months, if not years.
Personally? Office on the PC is fugly. Office X, *slightly* less so. Man, does it piss me off that I can't do cmd-shift-s in word to do "Save As", which is standard for the platform...
I know the point is not looks, it is to get work done. But my god, are you guys *trying* to make it have the ugliest most combersome interface possible? If so, mission accomplished.
:-)
Well, it is trying to compete with Office, so you're probably not far off the mark
I guess I was asking for that :-)
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15 seconds...
This is one of my alltime favorites. I've been thinking about getting a vacuum pump so that I can do it in the comfort of my own home.
One cup of water in a vacuum chanber. Pump out the atmosphere. Water boils until only the low energy water is left, which then freezes.
Hum. I wonder what you think "high end" is? .5TB disk is big enough to do an awful lot of work. This is well above IBM's own pSeries bottom end, though it obviously is nowhere near the top. The bottom line is, unless you've got HUGE amounts of data, it seems reasonable that you could go with Apple and DB2.
From store.apple.com:
---
Dual 1 GHz PowerPC G4
256K L2 cache & 2MB L3 cache
per processor
2.0GB DDR SDRAM @ 266MHz
4x120GB Apple Drive Modules
CD-ROM drive
ATI Graphics Card
Dual Gigabit Ethernet
Two USB ports
Three FireWire ports
---
OK, there's bigger hardware out there, but I'm thinking that 2G RAM and nearly
Yes, HUGE is a relative term, but how many businesses fit into the "it's enough for us" category. Hell, if they're selling it on Linux PC's, why not Apple, too?!?
I'd love to hear from anyone who has used TUTOS - both good and bad. I installed it once and was not impressed. Then again, I've never installed any team software bofore or since - so you might not want to listen to me...
If you're hitting > 95% or even >97% with the new system, who cares about spamassassin?
So have you been retraining the system as you get more spam
I continue to train.
or did you train it initially and leave it that way. How large is your training set?
I started off with a base.
Details! My training set was 300 spams and 3500 not-spams.
I started with a little more than 300 spam, and around 1000 valid messages.
My count is now:
Good messages read: 1194
Bad messages read: 644
That's because I only train on deleted mail, and I don't tend to delete my mailing lists except for once a month or 2...
With digrams, my filter traps 618 out of 621 spams in my spam folder, which is 99.5%
Against my start set, I nailed about 97%, including refiling 2 false positives from my old anti-spam system as being not spam. I've noticed that the system is really good at nailing stuff it already knows about, but the learning curve is a little steep for 'new spam types'. Still, I'm pretty happy with it.
I implemented Paul's system without the changes you mentioned, and am seeing >95% success (and climbing). 0 false positives. I will be submitting it to sourceforge this week.
5. The MS monopoly (and Intel's and AMD's respective complicity in that monopoly) can make sure that Palladium is available almost everywhere at once.
I think you meant to say "almost nowhere at once." How many DVD payers are out there that don't support this? M$, Intel, and AMD are not going to replace my DVD player.
Don't think so. The powers that be will not be able to convince all of the consumers in the world, let alone America, that they have to toss their current DVD player in the garbage. Not when they just got through begging them to go to DVD from VHS.
This simply will not happen.
I feel an irrational loyalty to linux. I feel that, since Linus and Stallman, and all of those other guys who wrote free software for me to use, wrote such good software that I really enjoy using, I almost have a duty to use it.
:-) I don't know if there are any C projects left at Apple that use a compiler other than GCC...
:-) Linux never did it for me - everything was... bumpy. Yeah, you could get from point a to b, but the ride wasn't any fun for me, and I had to do a lot of planning. With OSX, it's so easy to get from a to b, it sometimes feels like it's the same place.
If it makes you feel better, you could call it GNU/OSX. It's running on almost all the same tools, after all
This must be the same feeling that kept those mac guys sticking to the old MacOS for 15 years, even after better operating systems came out.
Dunno. I always thought that was something of a co-dependent thing. Or maybe some kinda inferiority complex.
Does this make me irrational?
Probably. But, as a good friend of mine says, "Everyone is crazy. Most folks are crazy in different ways than everyone else. Deal with it."
Hell. If you like what you use, don't go changin'
Ya ever been to a new airport and said "Hey, isn't this the airport I just left? It feels the same, works the same; did I really go anywhere?" OSX is like that in a good way - except for some of the old-school OS9ish apps, and the M$ apps. They all feel the same and work the same. You get from one to the other with no problem. I guess not everyone's travel experiences are that smooth, but you get what I mean. Maybe.
ipjohnson already answered most of your questions. But I'll do it too, and include some links.
:-)
What if I don't want to pay over US$100 each time Apple releases a new version of OSX?
Like he said - don't upgrade. There are folks who hack their darwin kernel (opensource) and live with whatever version of OSX they want to. I figure that it's worth the money to run a well kept system. By way of comparison, the latest round of OpenSSL issues: on my freebsd box I had to recompile the whole system. On my OSX box I got an auto-update and rebooted. Maybe you're into compiling entire systems, but I'd rather not.
What if I just don't like Aqua?
Doubtful - most folks do like it. But if you don't, you could always just run X (see also fink.sf.net)
What if I like free software? (I know that most of OSX is open, but not all of it.)
Essentially, the kernel is open, as are all the unix libs. The stuff that is not open is the window system, carbon (os9 api's), and Cocoa (old NeXTstep api's). Again, see fink.sf.net for a whole slew of apps that have been ported (mostly X stuff).
What if I want to develop software that runs on more than one OS?
Use Java. OK, IT WAS A JOKE! Again, fink.sf.net shows how easy it is to do this. Please get OSX and help them port more stuff - I'd love that
I still haven't had a chance to try OSX. It might be wonderful for me, it might not.
I hated the mac. Never owned one until OSX shipped. Unix, a great windowing system, and great API's (cocoa, not carbon), I get to run the cool apple i-apps and xemacs. My server still runs FreeBSD on an Athlon - mostly because that's the iron I have sitting around. But that OpenSSL mess sure pissed me off. I'm pretty sure my next server will be OSX, but that's probably 1-2 years off, still.
You've heard it all before. Give it a shot. yadda yadda yadda.
(I'll dual boot OSX and Linux.)
You say that now, yah.
But wait until you have OSX on your desktop. Why would you even want to dual boot? Yeah, there are probably a few apps that only run on Linux, but how many? Not wanting to start a flamefest or anything, what apps do you think you'd miss?
Not that I do, but if you have a display that's around 4000+ / 2500+, those 64x64 cursors start to look about right. Smaller ones are nearly impossible to see.
And? What are your results?
If you get a new email message that has a bunch of "non spam" words in it, it seems likely that it will not be marked as spam. As the article said, spammer's vocabulary is really limited.
I'm not crazy about the idea of sending out confirm e-mails...it makes me feel like a bit of a spammer myself, especially if the incoming spam contains a from: address of some poor unsuspecting sap.
In more than half a year of using ask, I have yet to have that problem.
Also, I worry just a little bit about non-technical people 'not getting it'.
I have dumbed down my confirmation message a little. I WAY dumbed down my mom's confirmation message...
Nice system for list matching:
a-s-k.sf.net
My primary concern comes from the fact that most of the spams I recieve are either Korean or English, while most of the legitimate mails are in Norwegian. Sending me Korean mail is pointless anyhow, but I fear that simply the _use_ of English will make his scheme produce lots of false positives.
I don't get it. Does Korean spam use something other than WORDS to communicate? Or do their mail headers look any different than Norwegian ones? What makes you think your deleting Korean spam, and thus marking those Korean words (heck, all of them) as spam will be a problem? The filter gets built up for the user, based on the user's email. How could this not work for you? Why would marking of a few English words as not being spam be a bad thing?