Right on -- I was going to post exactly the same thing when I saw your post sitting at the top.
This isn't a free speech issue. YouTube can post, or not post, or delete, or not delete, or revoke, or not revoke, anything they want. It's their server, and it's their website. You don't have the "right" to post anything on YouTube anymore than you have the "right" to come into my house and start insulting my furniture.
No need to be depressed. Delphi will soon be spun out of Borland and in the hands of folks that are totally dedicated to it. Borland spinning out the Developer Tools Group is the best thing that has happened to Delphi since it was launched 11 years ago.
Borland is selling their IDE tools. They will be spun out as a separate, standalone company focused entirely on developers, just like "old Borland' was. The Turbo products are an indication of the new focus on Developers in the new company.
For those who are claiming that the implementation/specific requirements are too strict, could you give an example?
Sure -- SOX requires that you have a referenced change request to match/every checkin into your source control repository/. So, if you leave a DB connection open when you want it closed, or something trivial with that, you have to create a new Change Request, submit it, assign it, and then do the checkin, referring to the new Change Request, and then do the checkin, and then close the Change Request (and of course, now your QA department has to verify, etc, etc, etc).
What took about 20 seconds now takes, what? 15 minutes? At least? Yeah, that's great stuff for the friggin'/federal government/ to be regulating.
This is where I get confused. Ken Lay and the boys were all criminally prosecuted for what they did to Enron. Why, then, do we need/more/ regulation to add more on top of what is already a crime?
I've never understood the notion that passing a law will stop people from doing something. I mean, existing law didn't stop Lay from doing what he did. Why would SOX stop the next guy?
I think you are missing the point here totally. Borland is/selling/ Delphi and the rest of the tools, to a new company, preferably a company for whom these products would be/the/ focus. Presumably as well, this means that you'll stop seeing the DoubleSpeak that you get from Borland.
This is/good/ news for people that want the "Old" Borland back.
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I wonder when the "Hack Apache" contest will be held.
It is true that the you need to have all the components a person has on their machine for you to compile on yoru machine. But what development tool/doesn't/ have that requirement? Of course you need all the code the original coder has.
It is/not/ true that they need to be in the same directory structure as the original machine.
Let's clear up some of the FUD in your post, Mike.
Borland has not killed off Kylix. That is FUD. Kylix is "on hold" this year, but they did announce some open source initiatives at this years Borland Conference. Kylix isn't thriving at Borland, but it's FUD to say that it's been killed.
Borland/may/ kill off the VCL side of C++Builder. They have set Dec 15 as the deadline to announce whether C++Builder will become part of the BDS/Galileo IDE or not. If they miss that deadline, then we know the answer. But it is FUD to say that it has been killed.
CodeWright has been killed, yes, and incorporated into Galileo and Primetime IDE's.
Borland never made any promises about CF support in Delphi for.Net, and to say that they have is FUD. Borland very much wants to do this, but MS is dragging their feet. It's a limitation in Delphi, yes, but to portray it as broken promises is vicious FUD.
Delphi works fine on XP systems with SP2. What are you on about here?
Believe me, it wasn't just you. I read about 4/5's of it an quit. I failed to see any point, plot, or purpose to the rather large, meandering, endless story of...... what, exactly, I never did figure out.
I'm amazed I got as far as I did. I kept thinking that things would start happening like in Cryptonmicron, but alas......
No kidding -- especially when you consider that many of the commercials are +totally+ inappropriate for children. I'm watching Monday Night Football with my son, and some raunchy add for a telephone sex line comes on. Sheesh!
Show me an amendment that grants the right of the original poster of a comment on the internet the right to not have to display a rebuttal?
I'm sorry, but that has to be one of the silliest things I've read this month.
If you libel someone, you can be sued, and rightfully so. But criticism is a long way from libel. No one has the right to have their message posted on my website. It's my website, and I'll put whatever I want on it, as long as it isn't illegal. And it isn't illegal to say, on my website, that my neighbors lawn is ugly. The notion that, if I say that, my neighbor has the right to +force+ me to post his rebuttal on +my+ website is simply ludicrous.
As for your quote above, once I actually parsed out the double negative, I had to shake my head. Everyone has the right +not+ to do something. You always have a right +not+ to do what you don't want to do with your property. Good grief, that's like arguing that I don't have the right to keep people out of my house. I can't point to an amendment that says I don't have the right to not keep you out of my house, but surely you don't meant to argue that anyone can waltz into my house anytime they feel like it.
Oh, man, I'll give you the not ready part, at least for the main course, but MREs are great, especially when compared to the K-rats before them. I loved MRE's, especially the tabasco sauce. And it is a meal -- each one has 2500 calories if you consume the whole thing.
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That is a great post, and a point well made.
In the case of the article, the developers are producing something that is incredibly valuable. They are wise to take that IP and leverage it.
Bob--
Right on -- I was going to post exactly the same thing when I saw your post sitting at the top.
This isn't a free speech issue. YouTube can post, or not post, or delete, or not delete, or revoke, or not revoke, anything they want. It's their server, and it's their website. You don't have the "right" to post anything on YouTube anymore than you have the "right" to come into my house and start insulting my furniture.
Dude --
No need to be depressed. Delphi will soon be spun out of Borland and in the hands of folks that are totally dedicated to it. Borland spinning out the Developer Tools Group is the best thing that has happened to Delphi since it was launched 11 years ago.
You are the man! Welcome to the club!
Borland is selling their IDE tools. They will be spun out as a separate, standalone company focused entirely on developers, just like "old Borland' was. The Turbo products are an indication of the new focus on Developers in the new company.
Turbo Explorer editions are free, and have a complete, professional level feature set.
Wow -- what an impressive display of negativity!
For those who are claiming that the implementation/specific requirements are too strict, could you give an example?
Sure -- SOX requires that you have a referenced change request to match /every checkin into your source control repository/. So, if you leave a DB connection open when you want it closed, or something trivial with that, you have to create a new Change Request, submit it, assign it, and then do the checkin, referring to the new Change Request, and then do the checkin, and then close the Change Request (and of course, now your QA department has to verify, etc, etc, etc).
What took about 20 seconds now takes, what? 15 minutes? At least? Yeah, that's great stuff for the friggin' /federal government/ to be regulating.
This is where I get confused. Ken Lay and the boys were all criminally prosecuted for what they did to Enron. Why, then, do we need /more/ regulation to add more on top of what is already a crime?
I've never understood the notion that passing a law will stop people from doing something. I mean, existing law didn't stop Lay from doing what he did. Why would SOX stop the next guy?
I think you are missing the point here totally. Borland is /selling/ Delphi and the rest of the tools, to a new company, preferably a company for whom these products would be /the/ focus. Presumably as well, this means that you'll stop seeing the DoubleSpeak that you get from Borland.
/good/ news for people that want the "Old" Borland back.
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I wonder when the "Hack Apache" contest will be held.
It is true that the you need to have all the components a person has on their machine for you to compile on yoru machine. But what development tool /doesn't/ have that requirement? Of course you need all the code the original coder has.
/not/ true that they need to be in the same directory structure as the original machine.
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Countless superior languages? I can't think of /one/ superior language.
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Let's clear up some of the FUD in your post, Mike.
/may/ kill off the VCL side of C++Builder. They have set Dec 15 as the deadline to announce whether C++Builder will become part of the BDS/Galileo IDE or not. If they miss that deadline, then we know the answer. But it is FUD to say that it has been killed.
.Net, and to say that they have is FUD. Borland very much wants to do this, but MS is dragging their feet. It's a limitation in Delphi, yes, but to portray it as broken promises is vicious FUD.
Borland has not killed off Kylix. That is FUD. Kylix is "on hold" this year, but they did announce some open source initiatives at this years Borland Conference. Kylix isn't thriving at Borland, but it's FUD to say that it's been killed.
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CodeWright has been killed, yes, and incorporated into Galileo and Primetime IDE's.
Borland never made any promises about CF support in Delphi for
Delphi works fine on XP systems with SP2. What are you on about here?
Man, clearly all that baloney up took some work.
Believe me, it wasn't just you. I read about 4/5's of it an quit. I failed to see any point, plot, or purpose to the rather large, meandering, endless story of...... what, exactly, I never did figure out.
I'm amazed I got as far as I did. I kept thinking that things would start happening like in Cryptonmicron, but alas......
No kidding -- especially when you consider that many of the commercials are +totally+ inappropriate for children. I'm watching Monday Night Football with my son, and some raunchy add for a telephone sex line comes on. Sheesh!
One step at a time, I suppose.
It's not a right I exercised, but rather a privilege bestowed on me by the good people here at slashdot. ;-)
Hey, thanks.
In addition, I did address his point rather, well, pointedly.
Did you actually read what I wrote? Note, too, that I didn't post anonymously, as you did.
I'm sorry, but that has to be one of the silliest things I've read this month.
If you libel someone, you can be sued, and rightfully so. But criticism is a long way from libel. No one has the right to have their message posted on my website. It's my website, and I'll put whatever I want on it, as long as it isn't illegal. And it isn't illegal to say, on my website, that my neighbors lawn is ugly. The notion that, if I say that, my neighbor has the right to +force+ me to post his rebuttal on +my+ website is simply ludicrous.
As for your quote above, once I actually parsed out the double negative, I had to shake my head. Everyone has the right +not+ to do something. You always have a right +not+ to do what you don't want to do with your property. Good grief, that's like arguing that I don't have the right to keep people out of my house. I can't point to an amendment that says I don't have the right to not keep you out of my house, but surely you don't meant to argue that anyone can waltz into my house anytime they feel like it.
It is clear to me, then, that we need to increase jet flights in order to fight global warming.
Only 593? That seems very low. But I guess I am misinformed.
I agree -- and John Dvorak has suggested this as well. Windows running on the Linux kernel would be seriously cool. Best of both worlds.
Oh, man, I'll give you the not ready part, at least for the main course, but MREs are great, especially when compared to the K-rats before them. I loved MRE's, especially the tabasco sauce. And it is a meal -- each one has 2500 calories if you consume the whole thing.