Let's take a look at a client of mine that was using CL7. He was updating all his packages using a public repository kept by Conectiva.
Unffortunetly when the new CL version was released, just a few days later, when the repository was updated, his production machines sundely stoped due to package incompatiblities.
It could be avoided if Conectiva had a upgrade plan like RH.
(...)after fighting you, they'll get laws passed to make it illegal for you to continue to do what it is that's making them upset, then they'll just rat you out to a complicit government agency(...)
We all know what Dunkirk is talking about (SSSCA/CBDTPA). I have already discussed a lot about this, but I'll put this topic into discussion again.
IMHO if a law like this passes we'll have a tremendous drawback in the development market in the USA.
I imagine a situation like this when huge technology industries (like HP, IBM, Sun, etc) will migrate their development departments to other countries (mainly Israel, China, India and Brazil). It could be a drawback at first, but will bring much more resources to countries like these.
Well, I won't insist in this subject anymore. But it's really sad that this kind of things are feaseable.
And those are the steps of the passive resistence:
1. ignore - they ignore the problem and doesn't even recognizes it as significant 2. ridicularize - they ridicularize the resistence as if it would avoid more people to join the movement 3. worry - they worry and notice that it is really a problem, but it could be easily avoided. 4. fight - they fight against the resistence with all its power. 5. lose - they lose the battle and assumes that they must live with the new reality.
That's the way it has always worked, from Gandhi to Luther King. All we need to do is keep living our lives with Linux (and FreeSoftware).
All I can see is that LCD producers are afraid of the price war that we have seen sometime ago among the SDRAM producers. I remember to read about the fear of some producers get out of buissines due to the small profit ranges.
What could be better? A price war? Or avoiding producers going out of bussiness?
I don't care what kind of copy protection they use, all I want is to buy a
CDDA compatible disc and play it in any of my CDDA compatible players (including the one in my computer and notebook).
$0.01 #2
If they think that using MS DRM will avoid people from copying freely the music in the CD to the computers, they are terrible wrong. We all know it, probably they also know it, but I'm sure that they don't even want to listen to their technical advisors.
It sounds weird to me, if they are so worried about money, why don't they worry about finding a effective to comercialize their product?
Although a XML-MS-Word forma would make compability easier, it doesn't means that it will be compatible. MS and Mr. Bill Gates uses of many theories developed through the centuries to overcome not only enemies but everybody else. From romans to George Orwell.
There's no to MS use a standard format when they own the standard today (MS Office files). And even if they hadn't the standart they would destroy it, just like they tried with Java and J++.
MS still have a lot to learn (and to suffer) until it's capable of colaborate with an open standard.
DMCA won't be examined neither clarified, there are too many interests involved in keeping the law the way it is.
There's no way to beat RIAA/MPAA lobby, I can't believe that IEEE have enough money to buy more congressmen than they. So we'll have to wait until RIAA/MPAA find out that the world has changed and decides to adapt to the new reality (just like we all have to do in our lives).
(...) slight difference between your living room and a taxi cab: you pay to ride in the cab. (...)
Sorry, but I don't agree. I pay to ride in the cab, not to listen to the music. Even if the taxi driver is listening to a music and is polite enough to play the music I want, I still don't pay to listen, he just let me choose the music that we both would like listen. (just like when a friend of yours watches TV with you)
Freedom is just a tool to make more money and keep the population under control.
Freedom is Slavery
(Just like G.Orwell in 1984)
If Freedom is a threat to profit then something must be done. This is what DMCA is about! They are trying to transform fair use into piracy, transform right into crime.
Try to figure this. If you have a TV then you can share it with your neighbor, and he can come to your home and watch some TV. If we follow RIAA/MPAA steps to the extreme we'll have a near future where sharing your TV with your neighbor will be piracy. (reality check: Finnish Taxi Drivers Must Pay Music Royalties)
So the point here is not about what is right and what is legal. It's about what is profitable and what is not.
Information can be easily duplicated and distributed with no loss of quality, so baseing your business in information can't be profitable for a long time, and requires continuous investments, which leads to expensive products, which leads to less scale, which leads to even more expensive products... And then we reach MS business model.
The solution is to base your business in knowledge, or services, or even both. Nobody can steal you know-how. Make investments in your employees, they're your biggest patrimony. Make investments on thme and they won't leave your company, don't worry about losing your investment, you won't.
What will happen now? After being/.'ed this product will have a new free documentation project, probably included in TLDP. And now the business based on information won't be profitable anymore...
He can't be interviewed on Slashdot. Simply because there's no face-to-face interviews on Slashdot, instead, there' s only digital interviews and chatrooms.
... to make an example out of people? It's not unheard of for law makers to change the penalties for infractions of things that the populace as a majority or large minority want to be legal, and still get away with remaining in office, in power. Worse yet, those that get caught doing whatever "bad thing"(tm) that has been legislated against suffer massive penalties. I don't personally want to be the one caught if something that I enjoy doing, listening to, using, etc, gets made highly illegal in an attempt to make an example out of me to the others if I should happen to be one who gets caught.
If it really happens and you are used as an example then you would become a martir. This is your best chance to do something to the cause you believe in.
I would like to have such an opportunity like this.
Is a way to protest against laws that you don't agree, usually associated with passive resistence.
This means keep doing whatever you have always done ignoring the law, and of course paying the consequences. It works as a colective form o protest.
Let's suppose that the speed limit becomes 20 mph at highways. If everybody ignore this limit then the police won't be able to fine everybody.
The same happens here, if a considerable number of citizens ignore the way copyright works today it will be impossible to sue everyone, and of course they won't sue none of us!
But to consider 1984 and George Orwell merely fiction... Maybe it's time to you to learn how to be more critic about what you read. If you have ever read the book you should know that Goldenstein opinions were Orwell's opinion, not just fiction, was a critic about totallitary governments.
1984 was a politic fiction, and thanks to this feature it had make possible to people in dictatorial countries (like South American countries in the 60s and 70s) access to political books without being opressed.
Read the book, and take a look around you, take a look to our recent past (1940~2000) and you will notice that Orwell's theories are valid and used by rulers of the world, including GWBush.
Haven't you thought that if GWB is Ascroft's employeer then maybe GWB is trying to cut civil rights? Another point, do you really think that GWB rules US by his own interests? This discussion cannot take place here, but think if you are really free today.
Ha ha! (and 1984)
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Forget it! This will be another great technology that will no longer be avaiable in US.
But pay attention, acording to Goldenstein (984)continuous state of war serves as an excuse to cut civil rights avoiding protests!
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Have you ever heard about Dreamworks using OS/2?
I haven't
IMHO Gates haven't learned with others errors in the past.
Probably he's still in the first level of passive resistence (see also Ghandi).
Let's take a look at a client of mine that was using CL7. He was updating all his packages using a public repository kept by Conectiva.
Unffortunetly when the new CL version was released, just a few days later, when the repository was updated, his production machines sundely stoped due to package incompatiblities.
It could be avoided if Conectiva had a upgrade plan like RH.
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(...)after fighting you, they'll get laws passed to make it illegal for you to continue to do what it is that's making them upset, then they'll just rat you out to a complicit government agency(...)
We all know what Dunkirk is talking about (SSSCA/CBDTPA). I have already discussed a lot about this, but I'll put this topic into discussion again.IMHO if a law like this passes we'll have a tremendous drawback in the development market in the USA.
I imagine a situation like this when huge technology industries (like HP, IBM, Sun, etc) will migrate their development departments to other countries (mainly Israel, China, India and Brazil). It could be a drawback at first, but will bring much more resources to countries like these.
Well, I won't insist in this subject anymore. But it's really sad that this kind of things are feaseable.
And those are the steps of the passive resistence:
2. ridicularize - they ridicularize the resistence as if it would avoid more people to join the movement
3. worry - they worry and notice that it is really a problem, but it could be easily avoided.
4. fight - they fight against the resistence with all its power.
5. lose - they lose the battle and assumes that they must live with the new reality.
That's the way it has always worked, from Gandhi to Luther King. All we need to do is keep living our lives with Linux (and FreeSoftware).
An Effective Strategy
Congratulations, MPAA and RIAA, you have found the right way to do the wrong thing.
I simply refuse to use MSN.
And I won't!
Both won't!
All I can see is that LCD producers are afraid of the price war that we have seen sometime ago among the SDRAM producers. I remember to read about the fear of some producers get out of buissines due to the small profit ranges.
What could be better? A price war? Or avoiding producers going out of bussiness?
And I mean it. Two considerations, nothing more.
$0.01 #1
- I don't care what kind of copy protection they use, all I want is to buy a
- CDDA compatible disc and play it in any of my CDDA compatible players (including the one in my computer and notebook).
$0.01 #2It sounds weird to me, if they are so worried about money, why don't they worry about finding a effective to comercialize their product?
Although a XML-MS-Word forma would make compability easier, it doesn't means that it will be compatible. MS and Mr. Bill Gates uses of many theories developed through the centuries to overcome not only enemies but everybody else. From romans to George Orwell.
There's no to MS use a standard format when they own the standard today (MS Office files). And even if they hadn't the standart they would destroy it, just like they tried with Java and J++.
MS still have a lot to learn (and to suffer) until it's capable of colaborate with an open standard.
It's a sum of both, and some others, factors.
Although smart, nerds are as imature as other teenagers, so they don't understand that futilities are needed to keep sanity and rest its minds.
DMCA won't be examined neither clarified, there are too many interests involved in keeping the law the way it is.
There's no way to beat RIAA/MPAA lobby, I can't believe that IEEE have enough money to buy more congressmen than they. So we'll have to wait until RIAA/MPAA find out that the world has changed and decides to adapt to the new reality (just like we all have to do in our lives).
Don't link
Don't point
Don't recommend
Don't support
Don't save
Don't forward
Don't cite
Don't comment
Don't argue
Don't protest
Don't ask
Don't learn
Don't remember
Don't read
Don't look
Don't think!
Don't live!
Don't exist!
Sorry, but I don't agree. I pay to ride in the cab, not to listen to the music. Even if the taxi driver is listening to a music and is polite enough to play the music I want, I still don't pay to listen, he just let me choose the music that we both would like listen. (just like when a friend of yours watches TV with you)
Freedom is just a tool to make more money and keep the population under control.
- Freedom is Slavery
(Just like G.Orwell in 1984)If Freedom is a threat to profit then something must be done. This is what DMCA is about! They are trying to transform fair use into piracy, transform right into crime.
Try to figure this. If you have a TV then you can share it with your neighbor, and he can come to your home and watch some TV. If we follow RIAA/MPAA steps to the extreme we'll have a near future where sharing your TV with your neighbor will be piracy. (reality check: Finnish Taxi Drivers Must Pay Music Royalties)
So the point here is not about what is right and what is legal. It's about what is profitable and what is not.
Information based business is no good.
Information can be easily duplicated and distributed with no loss of quality, so baseing your business in information can't be profitable for a long time, and requires continuous investments, which leads to expensive products, which leads to less scale, which leads to even more expensive products... And then we reach MS business model.
The solution is to base your business in knowledge, or services, or even both. Nobody can steal you know-how. Make investments in your employees, they're your biggest patrimony. Make investments on thme and they won't leave your company, don't worry about losing your investment, you won't.
What will happen now? After being /.'ed this product will have a new free documentation project, probably included in TLDP. And now the business based on information won't be profitable anymore...
He can't be interviewed on Slashdot. Simply because there's no face-to-face interviews on Slashdot, instead, there' s only digital interviews and chatrooms.
bummer. :o)
(plz, no offenses)
Does these CDs have the CDDA logo on it? If it does Sony/Columbia must find a way to make it play in your ye old CD player.
If it doesn't, you should have paid attention and bought only CDs compatible to your equipment.
In both cases I think that you should sue them! Just fight within the same rules!
If you think so, then Skylarov arrestment was in vain?
If it really happens and you are used as an example then you would become a martir. This is your best chance to do something to the cause you believe in.
I would like to have such an opportunity like this.
Is a way to protest against laws that you don't agree, usually associated with passive resistence.
This means keep doing whatever you have always done ignoring the law, and of course paying the consequences. It works as a colective form o protest.
Let's suppose that the speed limit becomes 20 mph at highways. If everybody ignore this limit then the police won't be able to fine everybody.
The same happens here, if a considerable number of citizens ignore the way copyright works today it will be impossible to sue everyone, and of course they won't sue none of us!
That's how it should work, passive resistence.
Feel free to consider me offtopic, maybe I was.
But to consider 1984 and George Orwell merely fiction... Maybe it's time to you to learn how to be more critic about what you read. If you have ever read the book you should know that Goldenstein opinions were Orwell's opinion, not just fiction, was a critic about totallitary governments.
1984 was a politic fiction, and thanks to this feature it had make possible to people in dictatorial countries (like South American countries in the 60s and 70s) access to political books without being opressed.
Read the book, and take a look around you, take a look to our recent past (1940~2000) and you will notice that Orwell's theories are valid and used by rulers of the world, including GWBush.
Haven't you thought that if GWB is Ascroft's employeer then maybe GWB is trying to cut civil rights? Another point, do you really think that GWB rules US by his own interests? This discussion cannot take place here, but think if you are really free today.
Forget it! This will be another great technology that will no longer be avaiable in US.
But pay attention, acording to Goldenstein (984)continuous state of war serves as an excuse to cut civil rights avoiding protests!
Maybe they should start releasing SPs!