Yeah, he stole from his employer, but we're not talking pens and staplers here. These were another company's trade secrets. Heavy duty IP like that was most likely guarded by a pretty hefty NDA. I say let him burn for it.
Now you're trying to confuse science and art. Art can't be classified into good or bad by any simple technical means. There is no solid line you can draw that says 'anything on this side is art, anything on that side is not'. Decorating your house can be art. A computer case can be art (think new iMac). Any time you go beyond function and into form, you are creating art on some level. Simply because some people in "the community" may not like it, it doesn't make it any less of an artwork. Your analogy is flawed, simply because science is (for the most part) based on facts. If someone tries to tell you that the world is flat, then yeah, they're a crackpot. We have factual evidence that the world is round. We can see it from space. We can measure it's curvature. Where's your factual evidence that something is not art, other than the opinions of people who call themselves artists? Art is NOT a science. Are you trying to tell me that if critics don't like a movie, it's not a movie? I mean, hey, they are knowledgeable about movies, right? I'm not sure why it's so hard for technical people to grasp that some things are entirely subjective. Beauty IS in the eye of the beholder, and whether or not someone claiming to be an 'art expert' says something is not art, it can still be art in someone's eyes.
Spoken like someone who truly doesn't understand art. Art is all in the eye of the beholder. HTML may not be art, but writing it is as much an artform as coding in any other language, painting, writing poetry, or anything else that you care to classify with your narrow definition of art. It's too bad you can't seem to see aesthetic value in things outside of classic art media.
... Also, I would like a pony. In exchange, I will leave cookies and milk on the mantle over the fireplace.
But yeah, banning private/corporate funding is probably the single best idea for fixing the horribly broken system.
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It's just the way you're using "distribute" and "private" that got me, but I see what you're saying. But is that really that restrictive? Someone is giving to you, for free, the code they wrote. You can use that code that you got for free, as it is or tweaked to your likings, then distribute it without owing them a dime. And the only restriction is that you include the source. It may not be as open as the BSD license, but it's a hell of a lot better than licenses from MS, or even the alleged "open source" licenses from Apple. And as I've said before, if you don't like the license I put on the source code that I'm giving to you for free, you can always write your own implementation. Kind of like bitching about MS licenses: don't like it? don't use it.
Sounds like fun! What I personally would like to see out of this is Apple releasing their own BSD distro. They did a lot of work to get Darwin to where it is. They could be working with AMD to optimize it further for x86 (64 bit?) and gussying up X with some Aqua-alike eye candy. Pretty much OSX without the ability to run Mac apps. I'd buy!
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Sure you can. You can do whatever the hell you want with GPL code, so long as you distribute the changes you made to the GPL source with the software. For your *private application* you can change the copyright notices to Hitler for all it matters, so long as you're not distributing the app.
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Yes, yes he did (see below for my endorsement of this statement)
And since you were willing to shell out for the computer and the router, the ISPs figure you're willing to cut them in on the action too. Why should they let you get a free ride, just because it's not costing them anything more for you to connect seven machines instead of one to the same pipe? Where else you gonna turn when all ISPs start doing this? Damn racketeers...
And now for some good, typical Slashdot fun, this site seems to think it was Microsoft who stole helvetica and made arial. There are some slight differences, as are outlined here.
Ideally what would be in place is that when someone activates the voicemail service, they have to enter a password right then, or at most have a default password that expires in 24 hours. So long as AT&T knew about the default passwords, which I'm sure they did, I can't say SBC is to blame. AT&T *knew* the risk was there, they could have required their new users to set a new password.
Good point. I wouldn't hire a recovering drug addict as a customs agent, but I might bring one in to give a talk to the other agents about where drugs may be hidden, how to spot the mannerisms of someone smuggling blow, etc. For the same reasons, I would probably hire someone like Mitnick as a consultant. I may not want him running my IT department and as others have pointed out, knowing how to break into a system isn't the same as knowing how to secure one, but I'd imagine he could probably teach my staff a thing or two about password security and common entry points for crackers.
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"two peanuts were walking down the street and one was assorted"
I believe you're going for "one was assaulted" (a salted...*zing*)
So instead of 600 magazines in my mailbox next month, I get 600 letters asking me if I want to subscribe? Sure, it's only a one time hassle instead of a monthly hassle, but it's still annoying. And calling to confirm is no less of a pain.
Let's see if I can help you out here.
what the fcuk? sell ad space to microsoft, ha ha ha huh? like they are going to do that on an anti-ms site. oh that must be the funny part huh? you fcuking dork.
I'm not entirely sure where you're going here, but in fact the ad I got at the top of this story stated, in large white lettering on a black background, "Got.NET?".
your nerdy sense of humor...you're such fcuking geeks
Um, yeah...and...? Is this your first day? Are you just noticing that?
how many of you are still virgins? com'on lets see those hands. you know it, your a social loser
You seem to be drawing the conclusion that people who have never had sex somehow don't fit in with the rest of society. Now, I'm fairly certain that you posted this as AC because you're just trolling, but how can you expect to have your opinions taken seriously when you say things like that?
Works like a damn charm. My new year's resolution last year was to lose weight. I started the second week of January with a friend at work, doing SlimFast (which, to be honest, I never thought would work). I lost 7 lbs the first week, then leveled off to 1-3 lbs a week after that. I dropped from 240-ish to 190 lbs by following the directions on the package: drink for breakfast, drink for lunch, healthy sensible dinner. If I wanted a snack, I had an apple or a banana. If I was thirsty I drank *WATER*. Lots and lots of WATER. I went through about about a case of bottled water a week, just at work. The eating habits have stuck with me and my weight seems to have leveled off (I'm 6'1", so this seems to be a good weight for me, though I'd like to drop a few more lbs). I'd recommend it to anyone looking for a weight loss plan, but it doesn't happen over night.
How the hell is that insightful? If we were talking silly DMCA bullshit, then yeah, sucks to that. But this is straight-up textbook copyright infringement. Boo-fuckin'-hoo. It's not like these students are getting fucked over for trying to better the technology by reverse engineering close protocols or anything. They're offering bootleg copies of homemade porn and britney spears songs for free to anyone who wants them. And before you call a fine "cruel" think about how people are punished in the rest of the world. A monetary fine, no matter how ridiculous, is NOT cruel, and saying so belittles the true suffering of the people who are tortured and killed for speaking their minds.
Yeah, tuition is high. When times are lean you need to cut back on the non-essentials, like cds, dvds, and other entertainment expenses. Doesn't mean you should be let off easy for stealing what you can't afford (ok, not stealing, copyright infringing, but let's not get into that, mmkay?). I wanted a car when I was in college, but I didn't just go out and take one. We all know it's illegal to download (most) music without paying for it. Whether or not you like the laws, if you break them and get caught, you'll have to face it.
Isn't copyright law intended to protect *published* works? If I made my own internet filter software (why would I want to? I don't know...) and my banned list ended up the same as theirs, could they nail me for copyright infringement? Isn't this more of a trade secret than a copyright?
I'm glad you put that explaination there in parentheses, because I had no idea why a dentist would profit from this scenario. Once again, thanks for the road map!
They can make the persistent connection to one of their own proxy servers, which won't break anything. All it does is remove all of the extra tcp handshakes by having a persistent pipe. That should speed things up a bit (not 5x mind you...)
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Yeah, he stole from his employer, but we're not talking pens and staplers here. These were another company's trade secrets. Heavy duty IP like that was most likely guarded by a pretty hefty NDA. I say let him burn for it.
Now you're trying to confuse science and art. Art can't be classified into good or bad by any simple technical means. There is no solid line you can draw that says 'anything on this side is art, anything on that side is not'. Decorating your house can be art. A computer case can be art (think new iMac). Any time you go beyond function and into form, you are creating art on some level. Simply because some people in "the community" may not like it, it doesn't make it any less of an artwork. Your analogy is flawed, simply because science is (for the most part) based on facts. If someone tries to tell you that the world is flat, then yeah, they're a crackpot. We have factual evidence that the world is round. We can see it from space. We can measure it's curvature. Where's your factual evidence that something is not art, other than the opinions of people who call themselves artists? Art is NOT a science. Are you trying to tell me that if critics don't like a movie, it's not a movie? I mean, hey, they are knowledgeable about movies, right? I'm not sure why it's so hard for technical people to grasp that some things are entirely subjective. Beauty IS in the eye of the beholder, and whether or not someone claiming to be an 'art expert' says something is not art, it can still be art in someone's eyes.
Spoken like someone who truly doesn't understand art. Art is all in the eye of the beholder. HTML may not be art, but writing it is as much an artform as coding in any other language, painting, writing poetry, or anything else that you care to classify with your narrow definition of art. It's too bad you can't seem to see aesthetic value in things outside of classic art media.
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Also, I would like a pony. In exchange, I will leave cookies and milk on the mantle over the fireplace.
But yeah, banning private/corporate funding is probably the single best idea for fixing the horribly broken system.
It's just the way you're using "distribute" and "private" that got me, but I see what you're saying. But is that really that restrictive? Someone is giving to you, for free, the code they wrote. You can use that code that you got for free, as it is or tweaked to your likings, then distribute it without owing them a dime. And the only restriction is that you include the source. It may not be as open as the BSD license, but it's a hell of a lot better than licenses from MS, or even the alleged "open source" licenses from Apple. And as I've said before, if you don't like the license I put on the source code that I'm giving to you for free, you can always write your own implementation. Kind of like bitching about MS licenses: don't like it? don't use it.
Sounds like fun! What I personally would like to see out of this is Apple releasing their own BSD distro. They did a lot of work to get Darwin to where it is. They could be working with AMD to optimize it further for x86 (64 bit?) and gussying up X with some Aqua-alike eye candy. Pretty much OSX without the ability to run Mac apps. I'd buy!
Sure you can. You can do whatever the hell you want with GPL code, so long as you distribute the changes you made to the GPL source with the software. For your *private application* you can change the copyright notices to Hitler for all it matters, so long as you're not distributing the app.
Yes, yes he did (see below for my endorsement of this statement)
And since you were willing to shell out for the computer and the router, the ISPs figure you're willing to cut them in on the action too. Why should they let you get a free ride, just because it's not costing them anything more for you to connect seven machines instead of one to the same pipe? Where else you gonna turn when all ISPs start doing this? Damn racketeers...
I believe that the settlement only stated that they couldn't use the name Apple Records. They'd probably stick with Universal as a name.
And now for some good, typical Slashdot fun, this site seems to think it was Microsoft who stole helvetica and made arial. There are some slight differences, as are outlined here.
Ideally what would be in place is that when someone activates the voicemail service, they have to enter a password right then, or at most have a default password that expires in 24 hours. So long as AT&T knew about the default passwords, which I'm sure they did, I can't say SBC is to blame. AT&T *knew* the risk was there, they could have required their new users to set a new password.
Good point. I wouldn't hire a recovering drug addict as a customs agent, but I might bring one in to give a talk to the other agents about where drugs may be hidden, how to spot the mannerisms of someone smuggling blow, etc. For the same reasons, I would probably hire someone like Mitnick as a consultant. I may not want him running my IT department and as others have pointed out, knowing how to break into a system isn't the same as knowing how to secure one, but I'd imagine he could probably teach my staff a thing or two about password security and common entry points for crackers.
"two peanuts were walking down the street and one was assorted"
I believe you're going for "one was assaulted" (a salted...*zing*)
So instead of 600 magazines in my mailbox next month, I get 600 letters asking me if I want to subscribe? Sure, it's only a one time hassle instead of a monthly hassle, but it's still annoying. And calling to confirm is no less of a pain.
Let's see if I can help you out here. what the fcuk? sell ad space to microsoft, ha ha ha huh? like they are going to do that on an anti-ms site. oh that must be the funny part huh? you fcuking dork.
.NET?".
I'm not entirely sure where you're going here, but in fact the ad I got at the top of this story stated, in large white lettering on a black background, "Got
your nerdy sense of humor...you're such fcuking geeks
Um, yeah...and...? Is this your first day? Are you just noticing that?
how many of you are still virgins? com'on lets see those hands. you know it, your a social loser
You seem to be drawing the conclusion that people who have never had sex somehow don't fit in with the rest of society. Now, I'm fairly certain that you posted this as AC because you're just trolling, but how can you expect to have your opinions taken seriously when you say things like that?
2) Sell ad space to Microsoft
Introducing MS Breakfast v2.0! Wholesome oat dollar signs with colourful marshmallow Windows logos. Nutritious, delicious, and stays crashy in milk!
Works like a damn charm. My new year's resolution last year was to lose weight. I started the second week of January with a friend at work, doing SlimFast (which, to be honest, I never thought would work). I lost 7 lbs the first week, then leveled off to 1-3 lbs a week after that. I dropped from 240-ish to 190 lbs by following the directions on the package: drink for breakfast, drink for lunch, healthy sensible dinner. If I wanted a snack, I had an apple or a banana. If I was thirsty I drank *WATER*. Lots and lots of WATER. I went through about about a case of bottled water a week, just at work. The eating habits have stuck with me and my weight seems to have leveled off (I'm 6'1", so this seems to be a good weight for me, though I'd like to drop a few more lbs). I'd recommend it to anyone looking for a weight loss plan, but it doesn't happen over night.
How the hell is that insightful? If we were talking silly DMCA bullshit, then yeah, sucks to that. But this is straight-up textbook copyright infringement. Boo-fuckin'-hoo. It's not like these students are getting fucked over for trying to better the technology by reverse engineering close protocols or anything. They're offering bootleg copies of homemade porn and britney spears songs for free to anyone who wants them. And before you call a fine "cruel" think about how people are punished in the rest of the world. A monetary fine, no matter how ridiculous, is NOT cruel, and saying so belittles the true suffering of the people who are tortured and killed for speaking their minds.
Yeah, tuition is high. When times are lean you need to cut back on the non-essentials, like cds, dvds, and other entertainment expenses. Doesn't mean you should be let off easy for stealing what you can't afford (ok, not stealing, copyright infringing, but let's not get into that, mmkay?). I wanted a car when I was in college, but I didn't just go out and take one. We all know it's illegal to download (most) music without paying for it. Whether or not you like the laws, if you break them and get caught, you'll have to face it.
Isn't copyright law intended to protect *published* works? If I made my own internet filter software (why would I want to? I don't know...) and my banned list ended up the same as theirs, could they nail me for copyright infringement? Isn't this more of a trade secret than a copyright?
3. PROFIT! [because coders' teeth fall out]
I'm glad you put that explaination there in parentheses, because I had no idea why a dentist would profit from this scenario. Once again, thanks for the road map!
Maybe he should change it to "XBox" instead. Oh man, imagine the fun of having MS *and* Apple suing you for the same damn thing?
They can make the persistent connection to one of their own proxy servers, which won't break anything. All it does is remove all of the extra tcp handshakes by having a persistent pipe. That should speed things up a bit (not 5x mind you...)