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Apple To Make "Music To Your Ears" Announcement

supa_k writes "According to an offical Apple invitation sent to the good folks at MacCentral, on April 28th Apple will make 'announcements that will be music to your ears.' It remains to be seen if this involves a purchase of Universal - something Apple offically denied just a few days ago but it will undoubtedly be the announcement of their online music subscription service and the other announcement will surely be new iPods."

390 comments

  1. I'll bet by mrpuffypants · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...that it's really just going to be an opportunity to get drunk with Jobs and listen to Doobie Brothers really loud

    1. Re:I'll bet by ddixon · · Score: 2, Funny

      And, one Sheryl Crow.

  2. Dell dumping iPods, so... by deanj · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Dell's been doing deals on iPods lately, probably getting rid of stock for Apple. New higher capacity iPods on the way, is my wager.

    Yeah...really going out on a limb there. :-D

    1. Re:Dell dumping iPods, so... by orpheus2000 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I doubt getting rid of stock is the reason. Word on the grapevine is that Apple is starting to tighten its grip on the retail front of their business.

      It's an odd, but perfectly legitimate trend; Apple wants complete control over how their merchandise is sold. They're opening up Apple stores left and right and driving out old, established resellers in those markets. It's pissing a lot of people off, but it's still within their rights to do this, so long as there are no breaches of contract.

    2. Re:Dell dumping iPods, so... by deanj · · Score: 0

      Oh, and hopefully they've fixed the battery problem too.

    3. Re:Dell dumping iPods, so... by JimRay · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually, Dell just re-signed their retail contract with Apple, so unless they're gonna start selling iMacs, I imagine Dell will be selling iPods again soon.

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    4. Re:Dell dumping iPods, so... by EyeSavedLatin · · Score: 1, Informative

      Dell actually resigned their reseller agreement. http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/2003/04/16/del l/

    5. Re:Dell dumping iPods, so... by nekura · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually, in a way, you're right. Dell stopped selling iPods because of Apple's iron grip of a contract. However, according to MacCentral, Dell, Fry's, and Micro Center all re-signed their retail contract with Apple.

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    6. Re:Dell dumping iPods, so... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And you are baboon.

    7. Re:Dell dumping iPods, so... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Derrrr, I'm a moron and I can't read. And the mods that modded this up must have stabbed their brain one too many times whilst picking their nose.

    8. Re:Dell dumping iPods, so... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      I've never poked my brain while picking my nose. I have, however, managed to pluck a nose hair that felt like it was attached to my brain stem.

      --Ouchies

    9. Re:Dell dumping iPods, so... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If .sigs could be two lines, I'd suggest adding:

      "It's far easier to abort a fetus than the use of broken software."

    10. Re:Dell dumping iPods, so... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mmm, gotta love the english language. "resign".

      a) So and so resigned their position.

      b) So and so resigned their contract.

      Such a very subtle difference in context changes it entirely.

    11. Re:Dell dumping iPods, so... by HungWeiLo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Apple wants complete control over how their merchandise is sold

      Last time they tried a stunt like that, IBM-compatibles took over like a firestorm.

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    12. Re:Dell dumping iPods, so... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      b) So and so resigned their contract.

      I believe that one should be "re-signed", but you're absolutely correct that English is a language rife with potential ambiguities. Try writing a computer procedure for a layman, wherein you have to assume that they have no knowledge of the technical context. Yech.

    13. Re:Dell dumping iPods, so... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful
      I believe that one should be "re-signed"...

      No, it should be spelled "renewed."

      Once a contract is signed, it's signed. You can't "re-sign" it, any more than you can "re-kill" Jimmy Hoffa.

    14. Re:Dell dumping iPods, so... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, that's pretty fucked up. I'm pro-abortion, but it's still pretty fucked up.

    15. Re:Dell dumping iPods, so... by Ponty · · Score: 1

      Presicely -- If you sign it again, you have a new contract. So you only sign it once. No need for resignatures.

    16. Re:Dell dumping iPods, so... by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "He said getting rid of stock, you nincompoop, not stopping selling. "

      Wrong.

      "Dell Computer Corp. confirmed for MacCentral today that the company has stopped selling Apple Computer Inc.'s popular iPod MP3 player. Dell is discontinuing sales of the iPod because of changes Apple wants to implement in the reseller agreement between the two companies."

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    17. Re:Dell dumping iPods, so... by chrisseaton · · Score: 1

      "probably getting rid of stock for Apple. New higher capacity iPods on the way"

    18. Re:Dell dumping iPods, so... by red5 · · Score: 1

      Not a smart wager friend. Toshiba's largest embedded drive is still the 20 Gig drive used in current iPods. Suck I could use a 40 Gig iPod 20 for mp3s and 20 for DV and other removable storage.

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  3. Looking forward to it by PrimeWaveZ · · Score: 5, Interesting

    At the Apple retail store I work at, we've been waiting for some sort of an announcement. People come in asking when new iPods with color screens and video players are supposed to ship, and we have to say "nothing has been announced." One guy even tried to say that we HAD announced a 970 version of the iPod, and wanted to know when he could pick it up. Hopefully this will quiet a lot of those folks.

    I would like to see the new TravelStar 80GN in some sort of small iPod-ish MP3 player. Given, it's a 2.5" drive, but damn!

    1. Re:Looking forward to it by mjpaci · · Score: 4, Funny

      I checking out the Apple booth at MWNY '02 when this teenager walked up to the Apple rep and asked where the new G5s were. He said that he read on the Internet that they had been released. The Apple rep was like, "Um, no. We didn't announce anything that even sounds like G5." The kid was adamant that they had been released. Shows you what people will believe.

      --Mike

    2. Re:Looking forward to it by mrpuffypants · · Score: 5, Informative

      I always try to weasel info out of the peopel at my local Apple store.

      The other day I went in there looking at the powerbooks nad told the guy that "I couldn't justify the 17"pbook and the 12" wasn't much better than my ibook. However, I'd go for an updated version of the 15"

      He tells me "dude, if I knew anything I'd tell you now, but I haven't heard anything"

      Accodring to him the store employees at the Apple stores literally don't see any new products until the day they come in, and it's just sitting there on the shelf. True?

    3. Re:Looking forward to it by 11223 · · Score: 1
      People come in asking when new iPods with color screens and video players are supposed to ship, and we have to say "nothing has been announced." One guy even tried to say that we HAD announced a 970 version of the iPod, and wanted to know when he could pick it up.

      Wow. I wonder what the power consumption is on a PowerPC 970-based iPod. I do hope you told him that what he was asking for was pure technobabble.

    4. Re:Looking forward to it by TylerL82 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Remember kiddies...mall employees thousands of miles from Apple HQ know all of the company's secrets!
      Steve personally calls each and every retail employee every night with the latest "dirt"!
      When a retail employee says "I don't know" or "Apple hasn't announced a G7, you weirdo", they are actually saying "Apple confirms your suspicions. Please post on SpyMac."

    5. Re:Looking forward to it by PrimeWaveZ · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yup. We know squat until the day of whatever the announcement is. We all got our news in January DURING the keynote. Not a moment before the rest of the world. It stinks, but at least we don't have to lie to folks.

    6. Re:Looking forward to it by radixvir · · Score: 1

      I would like to see the new TravelStar 80GN in some sort of small iPod-ish MP3 player. Given, it's a 2.5" drive, but damn!

      great an ibm drive so when the head fails i can get that screetch of death...now on the go!

    7. Re:Looking forward to it by zingbot · · Score: 3, Insightful

      On the other hand, yesterday some"very well-informed Apple Employee" at J and R said he'd never heard of 10.3 (Panther) being previewed at the WWDC and released in the Fall. It's been all over the web and on the Apple front page since March 21st when they changed the date of the conference.

    8. Re:Looking forward to it by nekura · · Score: 0

      Just think -- you could learn to be a DJ!

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      "Programming is like sex - one mistake and you'll have to support it for the rest of your life."
    9. Re:Looking forward to it by sigep_ohio · · Score: 5, Insightful

      it is like that at a lot of retail stores. the reason being is that corporate knows that the retail worker monkeys would squeel the news to sites like this.

      i don't work for an apple store, but i do work for circuit city and thats how they work.

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    10. Re:Looking forward to it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On the other hand, I remember when QuickTime was first released and I went looking for it only to be told (with great authority) that Macs will never be able to do video editing. Yup. Less than a week later I was making very bad (and very tiny) but very fun QT movies.

    11. Re:Looking forward to it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      According to him the store employees at the Apple stores literally don't see any new products until the day they come in

      He's telling you the truth. There are no 15" Aluminum Powerbooks in any Apple Store back room. To illustrate Apple's desire for secrecy even more, there's going to be a special event going on at the Apple Stores on May 2nd, with a satellite link up and everything, and nobody at the Apple Store will know anything specific about it *whatsoever* until a few hours before.

    12. Re:Looking forward to it by presearch · · Score: 4, Informative

      From the highest level VP, to the cleaning staff at Cupertino, Big Steve has made
      it clear that if anyone leaks any information about future plans or products,
      it's immediate termination. It's Apple's First Commandment and few will risk
      the wrath of Jobs.

    13. Re:Looking forward to it by TopShelf · · Score: 4, Informative

      Part of that is the reality of working in a publicly traded company. Major business events like a product release wouldn't be told to general personnel until the public has been informed also. It's a basic protection against insider trading, as well as a preventitive measure against information leaks...

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    14. Re:Looking forward to it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apple wasn't so secretive in those days. If you could get access to "MacWeek" (the tabloid for professional Mac managers), all of their hardware and software product plans were laid out months in advance.

    15. Re:Looking forward to it by Alex+Thorpe · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yeah, I've heard that when you guys get unanounced equipment, it comes in unmarked boxes that say "Don't open this until xx/xx/xx, on pain of losing your job", or something like that. So you can open it during MacWorld, and go, "Gee, it's what Steve just announced!".

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    16. Re:Looking forward to it by morcheeba · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And my experience is that they typically don't see the products until a few weeks after they've been announced. Jobs: you got me all excited about the 17" notebook; I should be able to drive to your store the next day and see the floor model. After 3 weeks and people tend to lose enthusiasm. How hard can it be to send 20 fed-ex packages with the new floor models at the exact moment of your announcement?

      Yeah, I know they probably aren't made yet and you want to get the announcement to coincide with some major event, but its far more fun to go touch the stuff right away.

    17. Re:Looking forward to it by Dylan+Zimmerman · · Score: 1

      That probably has something to do with the MacWhispers April Fool's day article about PPC 970 powered iPods.

      If anyone believed that, then they have no business owning a computer. I mean, honestly, "The stated paint actually is precisely the same as is used to letter the words onto the face of the present iPod" gives it away by itself. Everyone that I've spoken with knows that all of the text on the iPod is laser engraved.

    18. Re:Looking forward to it by Balatro · · Score: 1

      This would be accurate. I knew about the Keynote announcements in January when everyone else found out. At best, we know when stock of an announced product is due to arrive (maybe), but we never know what is coming down the pipeline for the future.

      Hell, I held off getting an iPod in January until the keynote. If only I'd have known, my 9hr trip to Toronto that week would have been a lot more enjoyable :P

    19. Re:Looking forward to it by PrimeWaveZ · · Score: 1

      Nobody is allowed to tell you that that is basically how things happen. ;)

    20. Re:Looking forward to it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He tells me "dude, if I knew anything I'd tell you now, but I haven't heard anything"

      He was telling you the truth, dude. Apple keeps new product info on a strict need-to-know basis.

      Think about it why Apple does that: do you know that the cover of Time magazine is worth? Apple got the cover story, because the new iMac wasn't old news that had leaked to MacWorld and everybody else six months earlier.

    21. Re:Looking forward to it by davesag · · Score: 3, Interesting
      My favourite Mac shop refused to sell me a 20GB iPod the other week on the grounds that I am a good customer and he said "You do yourself a favour and wait a few weeks.. you'll be blown away.". I I walked out of the store with my £400 or so still in my pocket. I've emailed him since to see what he knows so well that he'll turn away good hard kash, but he just says "wait, i can't say yet, but you'll be amazed." Is he just shitting me? Or does he know something. Or is it just that blind-freddy could see that a new ipod is on the way. Either way I went back in and bought a 12"G4 for my girlfriend a week later so he's still doing okay out of me.

      and for what it is worth, yes I do think a colour, 60GB bluetooth enabled, firewire][ iPod with video out and full support for syncing to iphoto would be the duck's nuts and I'll buy one the instant it comes out.

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    22. Re:Looking forward to it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Either way I went back in and bought a 12"G4 for my girlfriend a week later so he's still doing okay out of me.

      Umm...really? Have you got a sister?

    23. Re:Looking forward to it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >if anyone leaks any information [...] it's immediate
      >termination. It's Apple's First Commandment and few will
      >risk the wrath of Jobs.

      Hmm, I'm sure there's a pun in there somewhere.

    24. Re:Looking forward to it by jimmyharris · · Score: 1

      My experience working at one of Apple Australia's largest customers (a major university) is that the products are announced so far ahead of availability that there is no question of seeing any stock before an announcment (obviously the US market might be different).

      Any Apple employees I speak to (and some I know quite well as they worked for the university before heading to Apple) will never spill an information they might have.

    25. Re:Looking forward to it by Barto · · Score: 1

      If we knew what was coming, we'd leak it. We salespeople and technicians are all weasles. Apple sent Apple resellers copies of Mac OS X 10.0 before the official release date, and they were leaked. Do you honestly think they'd trust us with advance knowledge of HARDWARE!?

      Barto

    26. Re:Looking forward to it by Triv · · Score: 1

      and for what it is worth, yes I do think a colour, 60GB bluetooth enabled, firewire][ iPod with video out and full support for syncing to iphoto would be the duck's nuts and I'll buy one the instant it comes out.

      One by one:

      Color: take it or leave it. I think the 'pod should stand alone as a kickass music player, video would be a distraction.

      60GB HD: Hell yes. I'm probably going to end up trading in my 10GB when this announcement comes through, the more space the merrier

      Bluetooth: For synching contacts and calendar info ONLY, I'd go for it. Hardcore data transmission over bluetooth would be painful. Beside, you've got to plug the damn thing in to charge it anyway. Power over bluetooth, that I'd go for ;) A BT headset would be cumbersome - the theoretical max on BT data transfer isn't really sufficient for music and that means you'd need some kind of cumbersome powersource in your headphones. No thanks.

      Video Out: meh. No thanks. See above.

      iPhoto synching: again, leave it to an Apple-made PDA. Leave to music to the pod.

      What I'd love is recording capability - a line-in or Firewire Microphone. THAT I'd seriously drool over. Not that I'm not drooling over the prospects of next week now anyway...:)

      Triv

    27. Re:Looking forward to it by davesag · · Score: 1
      One by one... :-)

      Color: take it or leave it. I think the 'pod should stand alone as a kickass music player, video would be a distraction.

      yep i agree I don't want the colour for watching movies, but for photo storage and previews it would rock. I travel lots and really don't want to cart my mac around with me, especially osme of the places I go. I pay a whacking 8% premium just to insure my laptop because I travel with it. Now I could take that down to 2.5% and with the extra change buy a fancy iPod and take that with me instead and have music and somewhere to archive my photos on the road.

      60GB HD: Hell yes. I'm probably going to end up trading in my 10GB when this announcement comes through, the more space the merrier

      My 5Gb iPod was stolen from me at gunpoint. bastards! mut yeah I have 20Gb of music on my laptop and 10GB of photos, so 60Gb would do just fine.

      Bluetooth: For synching contacts and calendar info ONLY, I'd go for it. Hardcore data transmission over bluetooth would be painful. Beside, you've got to plug the damn thing in to charge it anyway. Power over bluetooth, that I'd go for ;) A BT headset would be cumbersome - the theoretical max on BT data transfer isn't really sufficient for music and that means you'd need some kind of cumbersome powersource in your headphones. No thanks.

      but streaming music (and yes Bt is fast enough to stream music, not copy it for sure - keep the firewire for that - but hell fast enough to stream music and if you already have a BT headset then that's cool. also synch contacts and timezone crippled ical shite with yr phone, w no wires.

      Video Out: meh. No thanks. See above.

      here I am thinking more about as a photoplayer/keynote player/presentation aid than as a movie player

      iPhoto synching: again, leave it to an Apple-made PDA. Leave to music to the pod.

      yep and a computer needs no more than 64k of ram too. I don't want lots of gadgets when i can just carry one.

      What I'd love is recording capability - a line-in or Firewire Microphone. THAT I'd seriously drool over. Not that I'm not drooling over the prospects of next week now anyway...:)

      recording - oh yeah i suppose, but what I want is some way of using two of them to DJ - now that would be cool

      we'll see in a few days i guess

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  4. It smells like Ogg ... by arestivo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ... or maybe not

    1. Re:It smells like Ogg ... by feldsteins · · Score: 5, Funny

      No, Apple is going with AAC. I think slashdotters tend to overestimiate the importance of OGG. Like "if only Apple would add OGG support to their iPod they'd sell a million more of them! Shooting themselves in the foot again. WTF is their problem??" Reality: if they did go to the trouble and expense nobody* would notice.

      * Well not "nobody" exactly. About 27 people on slashdot would notice, but only after arguing viciously for months about whether or not Apple implimented it correctly, after which approximately 2 of those 27 would actually purchase an iPod.

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    2. Re:It smells like Ogg ... by frankie · · Score: 4, Informative
      AAC support in iPod and iTunes is absolutely essential for any Apple music download service, since MP4 has the necessary DRM capabilities that MP3 doesn't.

      The only reason I hold any hope of Apple adding Ogg support to iPod is that it's free (as in both). There's 32MB of EPROM (or Flash?) on every iPod specifically intended for firmware updates. Plenty of room for AAC, Ogg, and the next dozen codecs to come.

    3. Re:It smells like Ogg ... by azav · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, there is a OGG xtra for Director. Now if anyone wants to write a nice clean ui for OGG files on mac and win only, the xtra is free and somewhere on MM's web site.

      Ahh, here it is:
      http://www.directordev.com/tools/xtras/OggVor bis/O gg.htm

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    4. Re:It smells like Ogg ... by feldsteins · · Score: 1

      MP4 has the necessary DRM capabilities that MP3 doesn't.

      I wasn't aware that it had DRM capabilities. What do you mean by this? Apple has been almost alone standing against DRM since the beginning even though it has paid a business price for it.

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    5. Re:It smells like Ogg ... by prell · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There is possibility of an "independent" iPod update, which would add OGG support. This Wired article discusses a version of uClinux which runs Mad (a media player for Linux which is able to play OGG files).

      Incidentally, I think understating the importance of open standards when it comes to something as ubiquitous as digital music, is a mistake.

    6. Re:It smells like Ogg ... by feldsteins · · Score: 4, Insightful

      understating the importance of open standards when it comes to something as ubiquitous as digital music, is a mistake.

      Ogg support isn't important in terms of customer demand, that's all I'm saying. Add it, don't add it, almost nobody will care or even notice. I am not saying that standard formats aren't important from a "general benefit to the consumer/public" perspective.

      And, BTW, in what way is it more open than AAC? Specifically? MPEG4 is, after all, a real standard. What am I missing?

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    7. Re:It smells like Ogg ... by prell · · Score: 1

      Ogg support isn't important in terms of customer demand, that's all I'm saying. Add it, don't add it, almost nobody will care or even notice. I am not saying that standard formats aren't important from a "general benefit to the consumer/public" perspective

      You're right; I took it out of context. I actually realized this while I was reading the article, but I took enough time doing research that it must've become absurd in my mind. All I was saying is that open standards help everyone (in general), which is something you obviously agree with.

    8. Re:It smells like Ogg ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only funny? This post deserves at least an insightful.

  5. I just hope... by sockit2me9000 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    that they keep the 5 gig and drop the price down to $200. That would bring the mp3 jukebox revolution to an even larger market. I know a lot of people who choke at $300 but would jump on one in a hearbeat if the prices was lowered to around the $200 mark. Might not be have high profit margins, but it would get lots of Apple equipment into lots of hands which is part of what Apple is trying to do right now.

    1. Re:I just hope... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wish this were the case too. I almost bought a close-out 10GB iPod at Target this weekend, but even at $300 for a 10GB model my wallet won out over the geek factor.

      The 5GB drives are no longer in mass production. Apple underestimated demand and ran out of these units long before the revisions (due next Monday) were available.

    2. Re:I just hope... by buffer-overflowed · · Score: 3, Informative

      If all you want is a 5GB+ MP3 player under $200, then you can get a creative nomad jukebox for $159.

      About the size of a CD player and less battery life/ flexibility of use, but, there's what you described.

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    3. Re:I just hope... by sockit2me9000 · · Score: 1

      I know, but I want something from Apple in this price range, as Apple is the defacto leader in mp3 jukeboxs sales-wise and mindshare-wise.

    4. Re:I just hope... by milkman_matt · · Score: 1
      that they keep the 5 gig and drop the price down to $200.

      Seems to me that they have a reputation for not having more than 3 models.. so if they end up getting a 10GB/20GB/30GB lineup, they'll probably dump the 5.. HOWEVER, I'm thinking if this is the case, and there's people wanting to trade-up, i'm sure you won't have a hard time finding a 5GB for the price you're looking for (who knows, maybe less) on ebay or someplace..

      I know a lot of people who choke at $300 but would jump on one in a hearbeat if the prices was lowered to around the $200 mark.

      I'm one of those people, I think if they do end up getting bigger drives and the 5s end up on ebay, i'll finally be able to justify buying one and act on it.

      -matt

    5. Re:I just hope... by 300f1grad · · Score: 1

      Yeh, Then I could buy a new iPod to replace the one I have now with a broken screen that Apple wants $250!!! to repair. What a rip-off

    6. Re:I just hope... by Mister+Black · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      I'll buy your broken iPod for $10

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    7. Re:I just hope... by PeeweeJD · · Score: 2, Informative

      That would bring the mp3 jukebox revolution to an even larger market

      Remember that the iPod needs a firewire port also... Being able to synch you entire music collection up with your desktop in 10 minutes was a pretty big selling point of the iPod... I don't thingk firewire has filtered down to the masses yet...

    8. Re:I just hope... by Alex+Thorpe · · Score: 1

      I'd heard a while back that Apple was selling refurbished 5GB iPods for about $199. Sounds like a good deal to me; I bought mine last June for an Amazon.com special price of about $380. And now I'm up to 5.58 GB of music, so it doesn't all fit anymore.

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    9. Re:I just hope... by mbbac · · Score: 1

      Yes, it has. It's been a standard port on all Macs for several years now. And, it is shipped on a lot of IBM clones (Gateway, Sony...).

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    10. Re:I just hope... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1. It's huge.

      2. It's USB.

      Sorry, but there's no price point at which something like that could look good next to a $300 iPod.

    11. Re:I just hope... by NeMon'ess · · Score: 1

      $.01? $50? I'd buy one for $50 for sure.

    12. Re:I just hope... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, you wouldn't. Why? Because it would be a waste of money.

      The damn thing is too big to carry around. Why did portable CD players never really take the world by storm? Because they're just too big to carry around. Keep one on your desk at work, sure, but carry it with you? No way.

      And over USB, it would take something like TWELVE HOURS to load it up with music. Which means you'd load it up ONCE, probably overnight or something, and then never touch it again.

      You might buy a Nomad whatever for $50, but you'd regret it.

    13. Re:I just hope... by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "hat they keep the 5 gig and drop the price down to $200."

      Or, if you're willing to spend $215, you can get a 20 gig Jukebox. I'd have one on it's way here right now if it used Firewire instead of USB 2.0. Oh well.

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    14. Re:I just hope... by NeMon'ess · · Score: 1

      You're wrong, because I did carry a CD player in my backpack for about three years because they were better than tapes and minidisc was too expensive. USB doesn't bother me either, because I have about 8GB of music, so after I load it up overnight, I'll spend a few minutes adding new music every week or two. I think you forget how big walkmans were in the 80's/ early 90's. Those were pretty popular.

    15. Re:I just hope... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is why the grandparent says he hopes the iPod comes down to $200. Of course for $200 he could get a bigger/less stylish/less useful/lower battery life device, but then that would be mucher shittier than an iPod, wouldn't it.

    16. Re:I just hope... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you forget how big walkmans were in the 80's/ early 90's. Those were pretty popular.

      Yes. They were also smaller, lighter, and had longer battery life than the Nomad. Which is why the Nomad is a failure, and the iPod is selling like hotcakes.

    17. Re:I just hope... by red5 · · Score: 1

      When the RIO came out I bought my sister one as a christmass gift. She thought it was the cooliest thing ever, but it was too complicated for her to use. I could figure it out but, I'm a geek.

      I'm a smart guy at the very least I like to think of my self as techno savvy. A friend of mine has a nomad and I can't figure out how to used the damn thing.

      So far nobody has been bafaled by my iPod. It's just that simple.

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    18. Re:I just hope... by Alan+Partridge · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      bafaled?

      did you even ATTEMPT to find out how to spell that word?

      it's BAFFLED you freakin muppet

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    19. Re:I just hope... by PeeweeJD · · Score: 1

      I know it is standard on macs (and has been for 3 or 4 years), but it is now just beginning to be standard on pcs (and an option on low and mid range PCs).

      Additionally, "Firewire" is an Apple trademark so Gateway and Dell don't call it that (I believe).

    20. Re:I just hope... by mbbac · · Score: 1

      Apple allows other companies to use the term FireWire for free (now). I believe that Gateway refers to it as FireWire. Sony wants you to think it is Sony technology and as such refers to it as iLink.

      It's been on every Gateway I've looked at for over two years now -- from my recollection.

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    21. Re:I just hope... by Xerithane · · Score: 1

      did you even ATTEMPT to find out how to spell that word?
      it's BAFFLED you freakin muppet

      Next time, try some punctuation. That way you will look as if you aren't some 12 year old chimp with a Speak'n'Spell in front of them. Maybe you can even get some capitalization, too! I mean, in the right spots.

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  6. Most likely Announcements are... by coolmacdude · · Score: 4, Interesting

    *New iPods (likely will have 10, 20, and 30 GB capacity)
    *New Music Download service integrated with iTunes
    *iTunes 4, with music service and AAC encoding (possibly Rendezvous streaming as well)
    *I would guess nothing related to Universal at this point.

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    1. Re:Most likely Announcements are... by pben · · Score: 2, Interesting

      NPR's All Things Considered had a story on this Sunday rtsp://audio.npr.org/atc/20030420_atc_07.rm They talked to Joseph Menn of the LA Times. He said that Apple had lined up all the major record labels for easy to use Apple branded music download service with fewer restrictions on use than in the past. We will know if he is right in a week or so.

    2. Re:Most likely Announcements are... by AutumnLeaf · · Score: 1

      Please mod parent up. I believe the poster hit on the head exactly what the big announcement really will be. Apple will have an integrated music-download service in itunes with all major labels, a deep catalog, and Apple's ease-of-use. The industry couldn't come up with a napster replacement that the masses would swallow. Something integrated into iTunes and iPods that is not being provided by RIAA. Now that's something that will get people's attention.

  7. Apple & Music by DrWhizBang · · Score: 0, Funny

    I started to write something here, but I erased it 'cause it was not as clever as I entended it to be, and I lost my train of thought.

    Go, Jobs!!!

    (groan. monday.)

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  8. Wow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So my 4.1 lb iBook is made entirely out of toxic waste? That's incredible!

  9. Bluetooth by MBCook · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm guessing it's an iPod that comes with wireless bluetooth headphones. Bring it on Apple!

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    1. Re:Bluetooth by PrimeWaveZ · · Score: 1

      That would be nice, just as long as they don't make you sync over Bluetooth as well.

    2. Re:Bluetooth by presearch · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I don't think that Bluetooth earphones would be high on
      Apple's list. A battery powered headset would either
      require the extra weight up on your head, or a battery
      pack that would be almost as big as the pod. Plus, you
      would be replacing the battery often or they would
      require some cumbersome recharging scheme, which
      would require a wire and a little box or something.
      Might as well just plug into the iPod. It would also add to
      the already high price while not adding that much more
      functionallity. Misplacing the phones or breaking them
      would also be expensive to replace. An expensive solution
      solved by ten cents worth of wire.

    3. Re:Bluetooth by sigep_ohio · · Score: 3, Funny

      air breathing fuel cells don't need to be recharged that often. of course they don't exactly exist in the consumer market, yet. but mark my words, one day...

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    4. Re:Bluetooth by deanj · · Score: 1

      Given the hint "Music to your ears", I'd say you're right on the mark.

    5. Re:Bluetooth by Clock+Nova · · Score: 3, Funny

      Unless, of course, they announce that they've found a way to broadcast electricity over Bluetooth. Now that would be worthy of a week's notice!

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    6. Re:Bluetooth by presearch · · Score: 3, Funny

      Maybe fuel cells that are powered by ear wax.

    7. Re:Bluetooth by isaac · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's worth mentioning that unless the MP3/whatever decoder is in the headphones, bluetooth won't work. It doesn't have the bandwidth for uncompressed CD-quality audio (44.1khz/16 bit/2 channel). IIRC, it tops out at a theoretical limit of 700kbps.

      -Isaac

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    8. Re:Bluetooth by cei · · Score: 3, Interesting
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    9. Re:Bluetooth by jgoeres · · Score: 1

      No no no no NO! The wireless earphones will be self-recharging! They'll just harness the vibrations of the speaker cones!

    10. Re:Bluetooth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...or they could just have it recharge from the microwaves my cellphone gives off :)

    11. Re:Bluetooth by Have+Blue · · Score: 2, Funny

      Can't wait for a bluetooth tasp! Make my day, baby!

    12. Re:Bluetooth by gmag3 · · Score: 1

      Maybe a headset powered by the earbuds' vibrations?

    13. Re:Bluetooth by Psychic+Burrito · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not true: Bluespoon bluetooth headsets deliver 4 hours of talk time out of a complete package weighting under 10 grams. More info here.

    14. Re:Bluetooth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Vibrating ear wax!!

    15. Re:Bluetooth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And that's less than 10 hours/per charge for the iPod. Well, aren't you just the fucking genius...

    16. Re:Bluetooth by Abreu · · Score: 1

      mhmm, wouldnt that violate the laws of physics?

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    17. Re:Bluetooth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps you've got it the wrong way around - consider the current iPod, with wired headphones...

      BUT when a phone call comes in on your Bluetooth phone in your [pocket|bag|ankle holster] the iPod routes the *mono* voice quality audio from the phone to the headphones. You'd need a mic in the headphone cord but that's no biggie.

    18. Re:Bluetooth by Tombstone-f · · Score: 1

      hmm, searched google and found this

  10. Rumors people, rumors. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Mac rumors hey, the best source of 'news' we can get? forgive the cynicism, but with Apple's typical tight reign on information about just what they're up to I know by now NEVER to trust rumours. How many of the last year's worth have come true?

    The iWalk?
    Video iPod?
    G5?
    USB2?
    Dualscreen powerbooks?

    The best strategy is to NOT go with the rumors people, except for the dull ones.

    It'll be just another iPod.

    1. Re:Rumors people, rumors. by Dossy · · Score: 1
      Video iPod?
      You mean the iTablet -- I wouldn't be surprised if Apple takes a second shot at the Newton, putting a 12" screen along with a stylus on the iPod, branding it the iTablet to compete with Microsoft's Tablet PC platform ...

      So long as the iTablet runs OS X ... I think Apple might stand a chance.

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    2. Re:Rumors people, rumors. by jub · · Score: 1

      here's Apple's next iPod accessory:

      the Audi-oh

      rip. mix. oh, ooh, oh! oh!

    3. Re:Rumors people, rumors. by jub · · Score: 3, Funny

      whoops, that would be the "music for your pants" announcement... my bad.

  11. WMA9 by RobRancho · · Score: 1

    I wonder if Microsoft will be singing along with Apple? I see building competition bt/w WMA 9 series and Apples stategy for AAC (should they announce it).

    1. Re:WMA9 by Alex+Thorpe · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Not likely, there's no WMA 9 support for OS X, or any OS but Windows. And WMP for OS X is now out for 15 months without one update, and boy does it need some updates!

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  12. OK, better now. by DrWhizBang · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I would expect to see Apple try to continue what they have done with the iPod - that is, making it easier to get your favorite artists, and listen to them, and maybe even make payment unobtrusive. Only if you have a Mac, of course. So if buying Universal is the only way to do that, then they would love to buy Universal, but chances are better that this is about some secret Apple squirrel society that is available to all Mac owners, but better if you pay.

    There. I'm not fried.

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  13. Ogg Support? by niola · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Hopefully if Apple is updating the iPod line they will add Ogg Vorbis support to the decoder. The sound quality is so much better. A 64kbps Ogg file will blow away a 128kbps MP3 and best of all it is a patent-free technology :)

    --Jon Niola

    1. Re:Ogg Support? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jesus, dude... give it a rest. I call bullshit.

      An Ogg (or whatever) at 64 will not beat anything at 128. I don't care what two formats you compare.

    2. Re:Ogg Support? by coolmacdude · · Score: 2, Informative

      A 64kbps Ogg file will blow away a 128kbps MP3

      From personal experience, that is not true. Although ogg will beat MP3 at about the same bitrate.

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    3. Re:Ogg Support? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And AAC will beat Vorbis at about the same bitrate as well.

      And please, "Ogg", like "Mov", is just a container format. It would be quite possible to put MPEG1-Layer 3 audio into an Ogg container.

    4. Re:Ogg Support? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      WAV :-P

      (note to nitpickers: i know .wav is now more of a container than a real format)

    5. Re:Ogg Support? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      And AAC [apple.com] will beat Vorbis at about the same bitrate as well.

      Though AAC's licensing leaves a lot to be desired.

    6. Re:Ogg Support? by ckimyt · · Score: 3, Insightful


      Nope, it's really true. I would listen to a 64 Ogg over a 128 MP3 any day (of course both have artifacts, but the Ogg's high frequency problems are much less than MP3's swirling hi-hats).

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  14. iPod in color, with a twist by joelparker · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Rumor has Apple patenting color-changing for the iPod and iMac,
    where the iPod body can glow inside with different chaning colors
    like the Color Kinetics Sauce LED products here

    Cheers, Joel

    1. Re:iPod in color, with a twist by justMichael · · Score: 1

      While I think this would be have a lot of "neato" factor to it. They would have to find more juice in the battery.

      I don't believe that many poeple are wiling to trade playtime for a few minutes of "Wow! that's neat."

      Personally, I wouldn't be willing to trade 1 hour of music per charge for a glowing box.

    2. Re:iPod in color, with a twist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Rumor has Apple patenting color-changing for the iPod and iMac, where the iPod body can glow inside with different chaning colors...

      The patent is real. The rumor is rediculous.

      The patent to which you are referring was secured roughly a month before the release of the 17-inch PowerBook, which of course, has a fancy self-lighting keyboard that varies with ambient light. Rumor sites seem to ignore the fact that this is exactly the sort of thing that that patent would cover.

      Of course, the patent is sufficently broad to have other applications, but anyone waiting for a chameleon-like iMac is going to be sorely disappointed -- if nothing else, it goes completely against Apple's current aesthetic. A color-changing iPod is similarly senseless as the thing spends all it's time in your pocket.

      -dr.badass

    3. Re:iPod in color, with a twist by dr.badass · · Score: 1

      Arg! Damn that 'Post Anonymously' box, right next to the submit button. I'll never get that Karma bonus...

      -dr.badass

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    4. Re:iPod in color, with a twist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ha ha! dr.DUMBass is more like it!

  15. New iPods by iJed · · Score: 5, Informative

    The new iPods should be available in 10, 15 and 30 gig versions according to ThinkSecret. They also say it should also include a docking station.

    For all those people who do not believe the rumor sites ThinkSecret has proven time and time again to be nearly always correct. It is not MacOSRumors. :-)

    1. Re:New iPods by mrpuffypants · · Score: 5, Funny

      /me only trusts crazyapplerumors.com

    2. Re:New iPods by illumin8 · · Score: 1

      Actually, I believe the new iPods will be available in 10, 20, and 40 GB versions. Apparently someone looked up the Toshiba 1.8" drives they are selling and there isn't a 30GB version of the drive, it just goes to 40 GB.

      There are other speculations about a color screen; ability to play Quicktime content, etc., but these are just speculation. It may have a color screen, or it may not.

      I also think some of the potential Bluetooth capabilities are pretty cool. Sony-Erricson already makes an MP3 player that works with the Sony-Erricson T68i mobile phones and automatically mutes your MP3s when a call comes in. You can also answer the call and hear it through your MP3 player's headset. This would be a killer feature, integration with standard Bluetooth phones as a Bluetooth headset.

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    3. Re:New iPods by quantaman · · Score: 1

      The document contains no data.

      You shouldn't of said anything you fool! Now Apple got to them and a group of thugs led by Woz went and "decorrupted" their hard drives!

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  16. News? by Michael_Burton · · Score: 5, Funny

    A press release announcing that there will be some announcement made next week, and it's a frontpage story on Slashdot?

    News sure ain't what it used to be.

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    1. Re:News? by registered_user · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Thank you. I don't post often, but I was about to post this very sentiment.

      It's one thing to report news, another to report the announcement of news to be.

      Besides, do we really need another Apple rumor/speculation site?

    2. Re:News? by Have+Blue · · Score: 3, Funny

      I bet this story gets duped *after* the announcement next week is posted.

    3. Re:News? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't post often

      Thank God for that.

    4. Re:News? by warpath · · Score: 1

      Slashdot
      Metanews for Nerds? Stuff that will eventually matter?

      I think it's just because people just love to talk about Apple.

    5. Re:News? by stevejsmith · · Score: 1

      There's a huge difference: the tech comunity goes crazy when Apple announces anything, and even crazier with the speculation. You have to admit, it is a lot more fun to gossip about Apple (as much as you might think that their products are overpriced, you know that if they were all free you'd take them in a heartbeat) than to gossip about Gateway's new LCD screen or whatever. And plus, Apple doesn't release new products all that often, and when they do, they are some of the coolest things...ever.

  17. iPod battery problem by acid_zebra · · Score: 5, Informative

    actually, I found that the new 1.2.6 version of the ipod firmware solves the problem quite nicely; once again I can get 10 hrs of music off one charge.

    http://www.iweenie.com/ipod.shtml (iweenie)
    has the latest firmware, as well as the older versions and all the tools you need.

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    1. Re:iPod battery problem by nilepoc · · Score: 1

      And, if you really feel that you have a battery problem, and are out of warranty, this site is selling a replacement.

      http://www.ipodbattery.com/

      49$ gets you a battery.

      Origianally from ipoding.com

    2. Re:iPod battery problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't forget to reset your iPod (top-center-bottom buttons all at once). The last two firmware updates, I had serious battery problems until I did that. The 1.2+ blasted clock still sucks power off it over time though. Like a clock is so much more convenient than not having to recharge it once a week after the clock has sucked it dry...

    3. Re:iPod battery problem by kalidasa · · Score: 1

      Hell, give this guy an extra mod point just because he knows his grammar well enough not to write "off of"!!!
      That made my day!!!
      (What do you want, I used to be an English teacher.)

    4. Re:iPod battery problem by acid_zebra · · Score: 1
      Glad to make your day *grin*
      Not bad for a dutch guy, eh?

      I work for an international company, and I am often amazed at the sorry state of the verbal and written skills of so-called 'native speakers'.
      (Good thing I gave up my study of English lang.& lit. for IT studies, or else I would have to get my daily kicks on the slim chance of someone actually spelling 'weird' correctly.)
      (J/K)

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  18. Oh, come on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since when does Apple consider that an out-of-the-ordianary enough thing that they bother to announce it a week in adavance??

  19. Apple + Universal == Trademark Problem by @ngel · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If Apple does indeed buy Universal, what does that mean for it's old settlement with the music label called Apple? Apple is the label that put out the Beatles music, and they have a settlement in place that says Apple Computer cannot enter the music industry, or something of the sort. If Apple does get Universal, how can Apple Music respond? I think that could be an obstacle to Apple's purchase...

    1. Re:Apple + Universal == Trademark Problem by smileyy · · Score: 3, Funny

      Money has this magical way of making obstacles disappear.

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    2. Re:Apple + Universal == Trademark Problem by liquidsin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I believe that the settlement only stated that they couldn't use the name Apple Records. They'd probably stick with Universal as a name.

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    3. Re:Apple + Universal == Trademark Problem by Richard5mith · · Score: 1

      That was all sorted out years ago. Cost Apple $35 million in the end.

      How do you think they managed to release iTunes and the iPod, both music related products.

    4. Re:Apple + Universal == Trademark Problem by JJahn · · Score: 1

      Actually, the agreement was already nullified with an undisclosed settlement. That happened a long time ago.

    5. Re:Apple + Universal == Trademark Problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A little known fact is that Apple Corps, in addition to containing Apple Records, was also in the music technology business. I don't know that they brought a single product to market, but that was what the Apple Computer trademark suit was about: the Apple IIgs had music -technology-. I think it's clear that if this was still a problem for Apple Corps the iPod surely would have summoned the lawyers.

      The iPod does remind me of the White Album though.

    6. Re:Apple + Universal == Trademark Problem by hellfire · · Score: 3, Informative

      I'm not sure of the exact language, but the idea is that Apple was not allowed in the music industry. There was argument over the language meaning that Apple could not make music or could they not make music creation technology. Apple records sued for the latter, while Apple said the agreement was for the former, and Apple lost.

      That said... as I have stated in the past... THE SUIT HAS BEEN SETTLED. Now that its settled Apple can do whatever they want really. They have iPod, they have iTunes, I'm sure IIgs technology is not really important any more.

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    7. Re:Apple + Universal == Trademark Problem by Lord+Flipper · · Score: 1

      That was resolved a long time ago. I think it cost Apple 85 Grand, or something. Who cares about the Abbey Road Apple anyway? The Beatles belong to Michael Jackson [unless Paul grabs them as Michael's credit cards meltdown] slow-->fast...

  20. You know what's Music to my ears by sergeantmudd · · Score: 2, Insightful

    All I really want is Cocoa version of iTunes. I don't download music off the internet and I don't have an iPod. I just want the apps I use most on OS X to be true OS X apps. But all I am expecting is iTunes 3.1 with music service integration and new iPods. Hopefully Panther will usher in a Cocoa Finder, Cocoa iTunes, and Cocoa Quicktime.

    1. Re:You know what's Music to my ears by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      uh, why?? cocoa is slow. what exactly is a 'real' os x app?

    2. Re:You know what's Music to my ears by lowmagnet · · Score: 1

      Oh that would be wonderful if we get a cocoa finder. With the rumours of 'piles' in 10.3, I think a re-write is in the works. I find myself using the CLI to move files about because a) finder is slow and b) finder has no equivalent of a 'move' (cut+paste vs. copy+paste)

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    3. Re:You know what's Music to my ears by Phrogz · · Score: 1
      All I really want is Cocoa version of iTunes. [...] I just want the apps I use most on OS X to be true OS X apps
      Cocoa is a newer framework and easier to develop for from scratch, but it's not any truer than Carbon. In truth, Cocoa is a higher level API than Carbon, which (I believe) implies that it's harder to get pure Cocoa apps to be faster than Carbon apps.
    4. Re:You know what's Music to my ears by nattt · · Score: 1

      What you end up doing is the object oriented structure and GUI in Cocoa, and any number crunching in plain old boring C. You get speed, ease of coding and reliability this way - it's great.

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    5. Re:You know what's Music to my ears by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just want the apps I use most on OS X to be true OS X apps.

      Programs written with Carbon are true OS X applications.

      Yet another idiot who doesn't understand what Cocoa and Carbon are.

    6. Re:You know what's Music to my ears by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      finder has no equivalent of a 'move'

      Uh. Drag, moron. Drag a file or folder from one window to another. Poof! Moved.

      If you drag from one filesystem to another, the Finder defaults to making a copy instead of moving. (The cursor gets a green plus sign.) To force the Finder to move instead of copying in that circumstance, hold down the command key.

    7. Re:You know what's Music to my ears by lowmagnet · · Score: 1
      Uh. Drag, moron

      Uh. Screen real estate, moron. You can't always drag from point A to point B without some trickery. Yes, moves work within the same volume. There are reasons to only have one finder window open, or to cross volumes.

      Also, I work with keyboard shortcuts. Did you know that when you copy from one directory on one volume, and then try to paste on another volume, thet paste function is no longer active? Then I MUST drag. I don't like mousing to do things I could have done in much faster with the keyboard.

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  21. what to expect of the new iPods... by acid_zebra · · Score: 2, Interesting

    1) firewire 800 (yay!) 2) bigger hard drive (duh) 3) more color schemes?

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    1. Re:what to expect of the new iPods... by mcwop · · Score: 1

      Hopefully, a cheaper verison around $200.

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    2. Re:what to expect of the new iPods... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why the hell would Apple waste their time adding FireWire 800 support to the iPod?

      A simple hint: The speed of the FireWire is not the bottleneck when dealing with hard disk.

    3. Re:what to expect of the new iPods... by HarveyBirdman · · Score: 1, Funny
      They will vibrate.

      They're looking for more market penetration, don't ya know.

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    4. Re:what to expect of the new iPods... by dadragon · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Why the hell would Apple waste their time adding FireWire 800 support to the iPod?

      Purely marketing. Apple would want a killer app type thing for Firewire 800, that way people will buy it.

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    5. Re:what to expect of the new iPods... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      firewire 800 is pointless on the ipod, no had disk can saturate even firewire 400, especially since the ipod has a slower, powersaving harddrive. having 800 will only help by not needing an adapter to go from 400 to 800, whereas all machines that currently have 800 have also a 400 port.

    6. Re:what to expect of the new iPods... by kyrre · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Firewire 400 is not the bottleneck when copying files over to your ipod. The harddrives are. And the FireWire 800 use connectors only available on new high end macs. So you first expectation is highly unlikely to happen.

    7. Re:what to expect of the new iPods... by Chump1422 · · Score: 1

      How is that a killer, except to sales of the new iPod? Nobody has FW800 right now. And it won't make iPods any faster, as the HD is the bottleneck.

  22. No OS X port? by ahoehn · · Score: 0, Funny

    What, nobody is predicting that the announcement will be that Apple's decided to port OSX to x86 architecture? Crap. I guess I'll have to satisfy myself with these themes and programss for Windows XP until Apple decides to appease me.

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    1. Re:No OS X port? by presearch · · Score: 4, Funny

      Ain't happenin' sport.
      And OSX themes on XP are just lipstick on a pig.

    2. Re:No OS X port? by metamatic · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If you're waiting for Apple to port OS X to commodity PC hardware, don't hold your breath. If they do switch to x86, which I view as unlikely, it'll require an Apple x86 machine with an Apple BIOS.

      Personally, I think it's more likely that they'd switch straight to a 64-bit CPU from AMD, but that's just me.

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    3. Re:No OS X port? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And OSX themes on XP are just lipstick on a pig

      ... I'd have sex with that pig.

    4. Re:No OS X port? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I did have sex with that pig, your mom.

    5. Re:No OS X port? by HoneyBunchesOfGoats · · Score: 1

      Just for the sake of argument, were Apple to release an X86 (-whatever extension) computer with a compatible version of OS X, how long do you think it would be before some enterprising hacker devises a workaround? Maybe some easily homemade, add-in EEPROM card that you can flash with whatever reverse-engineered (and probably illegal) code, that will fake the Apple BIOS?

    6. Re:No OS X port? by stevejsmith · · Score: 1

      Although an OS X port may be music to your ears, this announcement was billed as "music to your ears," which sort of insinuates that it will have something to do with Apple and music.

    7. Re:No OS X port? by davebo · · Score: 1
      I agree - a released for commercial use x86 port won't happen anytime in the forseeable future.

      However - if it was releasead for x86, there is no way Apple could keep it bootable "only" on Apple-supplied x86 machines.

      All the kernel code can be download here. It would take a motivated (and reasonably knowledgeable) individual not very long to either release a kernel with any special-Apple-only-hardware checks removed or to add in support for other BIOSes, etc.

      Or, of course, Apple could un-open-source its code.

    8. Re:No OS X port? by metamatic · · Score: 1

      I'm sure a few people might do such a thing, just like a few people used to run System 6 on Mac emulators on the Atari ST and Amiga. Not enough to be significant, however.

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    9. Re:No OS X port? by sl3xd · · Score: 1

      However - if it was releasead for x86, there is no way Apple could keep it bootable "only" on Apple-supplied x86 machines.

      It's a lot more feasable than you might think -- your standard chipset is a rather powerful processor in its own right, and is more than capable of some sort of rotating-key encryption, which OS X would then require to boot. Ever notice that Apple's chipsets are all made by... Apple? It's quite possible to scatter verification bits, or other unique architectural oddities in so many places of the chipset that it is quite impractical to reverse-engineer;

      This is not the same thing as BIOS/Firmware, which is just software, and reading the raw assembly (easy to do) from the EEPROM--

      Reverse-engineering this has a complexity along the lines slicing the chipset into layers, and using an SEM (Scanning Electron Microscope) to look at the die, then figuring out what is underneath it; this is not something that is undertaken for less than several million-- the tooling alone is astronomically expensive-- SEM's are getting cheaper, but they aren't on your average joe's budget! Anyone able to fund such a venture is too large to slip under the radar, and would lose (everything) to Apple in court.

      All the kernel code can be download here [apple.com]. It would take a motivated (and reasonably knowledgeable) individual not very long to either release a kernel with any special-Apple-only-hardware checks removed or to add in support for other BIOSes, etc.

      There's a BIG difference between Darwin and OS X. Darwin has the underpinnings of OS X; but since it's a microkernel, it doesn't have to have the code to handle BIOS checking in it-- put that in a user-space module specific to OS X (which is never released in source form). It is not a monolithic kernel like Linux where such reverse-engineering is possible. You don't need anything in the kernel to lock out non-Apple machines. The non-opensource parts of OS X contain the hardware checks. Darwin doesn't have it at all-- it is supposed to boot on non-apple hardware. It's not a matter of #ifdefs in the Mach Kernel.

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    10. Re:No OS X port? by davebo · · Score: 1

      Interesting. But I still think it might be easier than you're making it out to be (although maybe not as easy as I said originally) - at least as long as Apple doesn't un-opensource the kernel, simply because it still handles all access to the hardware.

      Just to make sure I undersand your argument, I'll break out the main points. Please correct as necessary:

      1) Apple designs its own chipset for x86
      2) This chipset could perform some encryption/decryption of specific data or include "purposeful" mistakes
      3) a userland (closed source) program could submit specific data and check results of encryption/decryption or, alternately, look for the "mistakes" to see if it was Apple certified hardware

      I guess here's how I think it such a scheme could be defeated:

      1) Buy an Apple x86 running OS X.
      2) Replace stock OS X kernel with home-compiled kernel (as far as the userland program is concerned, things are still cool)
      3) modify home-compiled kernel to dump all requests to access hardware, along with requested data and any returned from-hardware data to file.
      4) Compare a dump of this file with OS X booting off a non-Apple x86 box. Isolate the differences.
      5) Modify kernel to report back exactly what Apple hardware sends back.
      6) Repeat until successful.

      Feel free to point out where I've gone horribly wrong. I already came up with "the userland program generated a random number on each boot, and asked the hardware to encrypt/decrypt it, and checks results of encryption/decryption", in which case the above strategy wouldn't work.

      But - in that case, couldn't you peak through the binary/assembly of the non-opensourced check program, figure out where it decides the hardware isn't correct, and using your favorite editor make it jump down the "hardware is correct" path instead? I was under the impression this is how lots of cracked binaries of various commercial software programs had been made. And those usually only take a day or two to become available :)

    11. Re:No OS X port? by sl3xd · · Score: 1

      Well, I'll start with the arguments

      1.) This will probably never happen anyway; the state of Darwin on x86 strenghens this belief.
      2-3.) OS X will probably barf on you right here. Just because Darwin and Mach is the basis for OSX, it does not by any means imply that OSX will boot from a self-compiled 'Darwin/mach' kernel; I've seen people try. There are still some closed-source bits to the Mach kernel OSX uses, which differs from Darwin's. Just because it's 99.9% the same, doesn't mean it's exactly the same. Most of the 'Darwin' that is open-source are things such as the GNU tools-- which are Free anyway.
      4-6.) There would be far, far more differences than just unlocking code-- there's a lot of hardware that OSX supports that Darwin doesn't; you would break far more than you could possibly solve.

      And finally, there are plenty of examples where people have tried to get OS X working on a non-apple PPC -- they all fail until they actually get Apple hardware. And Apple isn't above making a 'new' version that is incompatible with the older hardware -- they did exactly that when they killed mac clones. The clone makers tried (and failed) to work around the problem.

      The most effective copyright-protect technology is still the hardware dongle -- still found for exotic and expensive software (such as PCBoard Layout programs). This kind of protection easily defeats the software 'work-arounds' you propose; such software is marketed to engineers who can design a computer from scratch-- decompiling and breaking software locks is a piece of cake. So is monitoring the input/output from the port which the dongle is attatched. But breaking the hardware lock is a far, far more difficult thing to do-- so much so that nobody bothers trying.

      I'd also like to add that just because it has an x86 chip and an AGP/PCI bus, it by no means equates to being 'x86' compatible. 'x86' compatible hardware still has an ISA bus inside (even if it is wholly contained in the chipset). An apple-built x86 can easily use a different (and wholly incompatible) interrupt structure than a PC uses. A PC uses/or has the equivalent of two 8259 interrupt controllers, with one master, and the slave cascading its interrupts down. This provides 16 hardware interrupts, IRQ 0-15. These are hard-wired quite specifically; even if you did somehow software-map around them, it would be *dog slow* compared to 'real' hardware. There are plenty of other examples.

      Apple can easily put an x86 chip in a motherboard, and still have an architecture so different from a PC that it's just not worth it to try to work around it in software. All an Apple/x86 would have to do is use a different interrupt controller, with say 32 interrupts, and suddenly a PC somehow hacked to run OS X would run poorly enough you would rather just buy the Apple hardware; requiring a 2:1 mapping for each interrupt, many of which cannot be remapped - so some interrupts will have a 1:1 relationship, while others have a 10:1 mapping. Then things get *really ugly* inside the kernel. Apple can change the addressing model used for the system busses and components; it would work fine on Apple hardware, but requires even more costly re-maps to make it work on a generic PC.

      Ever run a virtualization suite such as VirtualPC? VirtualPC is very, very slow compared to pure hardware. (I say VirtualPC instead of VMware because VMware doesn't do as much re-mapping as VirtualPC, which is one of the reasons why there is no VMware for PPC hardware; but even VMware is dog slow, taking 3-4 minutes to boot WinXP when a 'real' boot of WinXP takes 30 seconds.)

      Meaning that while it may be possible to work around it, that doesn't mean that it would be worth it.

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    12. Re:No OS X port? by davebo · · Score: 1
      A fine discussion for something which will never happen :)

      You're right - enough stuff could be changed on Apple-brand motherboards to make it not-very-useful to get OS X running on "standard" hardware. However, short of a hardware lock, I still content some deranged individual would make it happen, solely for the hack value.

      But I'd also say that Apple moving OS X to x86 boxes would signal the end of Apple-as-a-hardware company - which I mean from a corporate, strategic sense, as in Steve Jobs saying "we're getting out of the hardware business" Which would mean they wouldn't be designing their own motherboards. Which means this wouldn't be an issue. Of course, I also think that'd be a remarkably dumb thing for Apple to do.

      Just as an aside - home brewed kernels are possible - despite your associates having failures. I'm thinking in particular of the instructions for getting OS X to boot on non-Apple supported machines using home-brewed kernels (still Apple boxes, of course).

      Thanks - I learned something from your explanations.

    13. Re:No OS X port? by David+Leppik · · Score: 1

      And OSX themes on XP are just lipstick on a pig.


      You mean like this?
  23. How about some good detective work by LinuxMacWin · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Ok, so the event is in San Francisco on the 28th. Apple would not let its plans leak easily, but I think we can get better clues by doing some detective work.

    1. Are any Universal senior executives going to be in SFO on 28th? Maybe any friends, collegues can answer?

    2. Any other recording company executive planned to be in SFO on 28 - with no event planned publicly?

    3. Are any major artists (somewhere read Pearl Jam) planned to be in SFO on 28th?

    I am sure people can come up with more clues (flight plans, website registration - ok I know about appleuniversal.plan - what else) which can throw more light on the plans.

    1. Re:How about some good detective work by RedX · · Score: 1
      3. Are any major artists (somewhere read Pearl Jam) planned to be in SFO on 28th?

      Doubtful on Pearl Jam considering they're in the midst of the east cost/midwest leg of their tour and will be playing Philly on the 28th.

    2. Re:How about some good detective work by BigJimSlade · · Score: 1

      Doubt Pearl Jam would be there for that... AFAIK they're on Epic, which is owned by Sony/Columbia. Somebody correct me if I'm mistaken. Also, until recently, Pearl Jam has not been the most "cyber" band out there, despite their huge following online. They're not the type of band that updates their website on a regular basis. Because of this, I doubt you'll see them helping Apple hawk their new service (if any). Good idea with the detective work, though.

    3. Re:How about some good detective work by 17028 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm *sure* the judge is going to look favorably on your stalking of those executives if you say it was for a good purpose, to keep the Slashdotters updated. ;)

    4. Re:How about some good detective work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting
      I can't find the article on the paper's web site, but according to an article in the business section of this morning's Toronto Star , Apple registered the domain name Appleuniversal.com on April 11. Internic "whois" turned up:

      Domain Name: APPLEUNIVERSAL.COM

      Registrar: BULKREGISTER.COM, INC.

      Whois Server: whois.bulkregister.com

      Referral URL: http://www.bulkregister.com

      Name Server: NSERVER2.APPLE.COM

      Name Server: NSERVER.APPLE.COM

      Status: ACTIVE

      Updated Date: 11-apr-2003

      Creation Date: 11-apr-2003

      Expiration Date: 11-apr-2004

      Of course, this could be a "just in case" move on their part.

    5. Re:How about some good detective work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apple didn't register this domain, someone else did but entered Apple's details.

    6. Re:How about some good detective work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The article specifically said that Apple registered the name and I'm making the bold assumption that the journalist did his homework. The fact that the whois shows a proxy registrar doesn't suprise me.

    7. Re:How about some good detective work by jgoeres · · Score: 1
      Some AC opined:
      ...assumption that the journalist did his homework.
      Silly rabbit.
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    8. Re:How about some good detective work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lookum again, paleface:

      % whois -h whois.bulkregister.com appleuniversal.com

      [...]

      Hahahah!!! Tricked You!!!
      April Fools
      Tricked You!, HA HA HA HAHAHA
      US

      Domain Name: APPLEUNIVERSAL.COM

      Administrative Contact -
      NOC Apple - Apple-NOC@APPLE.COM
      Apple Computer, Inc.
      1 Infinite Loop
      Cupertino, CA 95014
      US
      Phone - 4089961010
      Fax -

      [...]

      Record update date - 2003-04-11 17:26:29
      Record create date - 2003-04-11
      Record will expire on - 2004-04-11
      Database last updated on - 2003-04-21 14:06:06 EST

    9. Re:How about some good detective work by HaiLHaiL · · Score: 2

      Actually Pearl Jam is selling concert bootlegs online for their current tour. They come out something like 2 weeks after each concert. Umastered mp3's are available almost immediately. And they've fulfilled their contract obligation to Epic with their latest album, and will probably only use Sony for distribution at this point.

      But as a previous poster said, they're in Philly on the 28th.

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    10. Re:How about some good detective work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Although it's a very credible newspaper, I did "say" it tongue-in-cheek. But I forgot what the tongue-in-cheek emoticon looks like.

      Kix are for Trids.

    11. Re:How about some good detective work by P.+Niss · · Score: 0

      1. Are any Universal senior executives going to be in SFO on 28th? Maybe any friends, collegues can answer?

      Oh, ah, sure I know the senior executives at Universal Music. Yeah, that's the ticket! I mean, you might imagine that, as a typical Slashdot reader, I'm just some nerd with a lot of free time on his hands, and not the kind of person who pals around a lot with the executive officers of record companies. But you'd be wrong. So...um, ah, yeah...me and the CEO are going to be in San Francisco around that time, right, that's it. His name? Oh, ah, let's see...um, it's, uh... Joey...Joe-Joe...Junior...Shabadoo.

      Oh, and I'll be sure to e-mail you the complete flight plans and itineraries for me and Joey Joe-Joe just as soon as they're finalized. And I'll give you his cell phone number in case you just want to ask him yourself about all this Apple business. Hopefully this is just the kind of detective work you were asking for. You're welcome!

    12. Re:How about some good detective work by nilepoc · · Score: 1

      Or, try looking it up again, at this url

      http://www.networksolutions.com/cgi-bin/whois/wh oi s?STRING=appleuniversal.com&SearchType=do&STRING2. x=34&STRING2.y=13

    13. Re:How about some good detective work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      First place I tried (several times) and only got gibberish error messages. Just tried it again and still get gibberish error messages. It may not like me because I'm outside the country or won't use cookies. That's OK, I never like them. Biggest pita I ever had to deal with - I could write a book.

    14. Re:How about some good detective work by MoneyT · · Score: 1

      Also an astute person would notice that all of Apple's corporate websites are registered through Network Solutions

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    15. Re:How about some good detective work by mcwop · · Score: 1

      Apple won't buy Universal. If they tried MSFT would scoop it up and they have mucho cash to do the job.

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    16. Re:How about some good detective work by LinuxMacWin · · Score: 1

      I understand the challenges. However, do you mean to say "not one person" in this world

      a) knows what is going on
      b) reads Slashdot (and Mac Topics)
      c) is in position to write on Slashdot anonymously

      I am not asking about detectives hiding behind the trees (if that is the picture you or others got). Yes, their IP can be recorded while posting from office, but I think it is not hard to post anonymously. Anyway... you get the idea.

  24. Re:Big announcement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    maybe they'll announce the rap/hip-hop inventor al gore iPod. Unfortunately, if it gets stolen, there is no controlling legal authority.

  25. It would be wacky if... by maxbang · · Score: 1

    they put a iridescent apple logo on a stereo and called it "iStereo". hey - i just got an idea for a submission on one of those homebrew mac design sites!!

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  26. Service Plan + Free/Cheap iPod by backlonthethird · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If Apple is starting a subscription service - they ought to seriously consider the US mobile phone model:

    Sign up for one year and get a $XXX discount on one of our pieces of hardware


    Imagine how many more people will sign up for a $40 monthly fee if it meant they could finally afford an iPod and have access to an easy to use music subscription service.

    1. Re:Service Plan + Free/Cheap iPod by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except that the Apple music service isn't going to be fee-based. It follows the iPhoto prints model, using Amazon one-click for purchasing music files.

      See this post from way back in December of last year for more information. It was written by yours truly.

    2. Re:Service Plan + Free/Cheap iPod by MoneyT · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Wouldn't it make more sense (on apple's part) to offer a free year with the purchase of an iPod?

      OTOH, it's possible they may do what you suggest or maybe also include this service as part of the .mac subscription.

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  27. ... some corelations. by juuri · · Score: 4, Interesting

    * iWalk.

    Okay that was just stupid.

    * Video iPod.

    I wouldn't be suprised if there were a few pieces of hardware floating around in some r&d lab for this. Someone is eventually going to make something like this. Sony just released a portable CD/DVD player that has a small LCD screen that attaches. It isn't too much of a stretch to imagine the drive replaced with a hard drive.

    * G5.

    970.

    * USB2.

    This is true since it was recently discovered that new PowerMacs have had USB2 chips in them for a while. Drivers are now out which will enable this.

    * Dualscreen powerbooks.

    Probably the 17" monster, because asside from the one pc company that is making dual screen machines who else in the world would consider such a thing. Which sounds more plausible a machine with two small screens or this insanely large 17" Apple came out with?

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    1. Re:... some corelations. by melvin22 · · Score: 2, Informative

      "* Video iPod.

      I wouldn't be suprised if there were a few pieces of hardware floating around in some r&d lab for this. Someone is eventually going to make something like this. Sony just released a portable CD/DVD player that has a small LCD screen that attaches. It isn't too much of a stretch to imagine the drive replaced with a hard drive."


      Whether it is good or not, I don't know. But here's an example of a device like that.

    2. Re:... some corelations. by jred · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I have one of the Archos units. Yes, they're pretty good. The camera attachment is fun, but you have to have good lighting to use it.

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    3. Re:... some corelations. by qwiksilvr · · Score: 1
      ... it was recently discovered that new PowerMacs have had USB2 chips in them for a while. Drivers are now out which will enable this.
      I was unable to find any information on this. Can you provide a link?
    4. Re:... some corelations. by mr100percent · · Score: 1
  28. Denial by Znonymous+Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...something Apple offically denied just a few days ago...

    Who is their spokesman, Iraqi Information Minister Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf (aka Baghdad Bob)?

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    1. Re:Denial by SaturnTim · · Score: 0, Redundant


      Plus, apple denied that they had already made an offer. They didn't say anything about making an offer in the future.

      --ST

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    2. Re:Denial by gryphokk · · Score: 1

      "Their failure in this regard is abysmal. They want to tell the world changes thought - as a matter of fact, they do not respect the world, they want to tell taxpayers and the domestic public to keep them deceived. We will embroil them, confuse them and keep them in the quagmire. They have begun to tell more lies so that they might continue with the perpetration of their crimes. May they be accursed."

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    3. Re:Denial by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Who is their spokesman, Iraqi Information Minister Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf (aka Baghdad Bob)?

      Yes.
      He then added that Microsoft did not have a firm grasp on the computer market, and that if they tried to get one, they would be burned in their offices.

      Then he called Bill Gates an evil Satanic zionist pig. But that wasn't propaganda.

    4. Re:Denial by kruczkowski · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      check this site out:

      http://welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/

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    5. Re:Denial by gmag3 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Who is their spokesman, Iraqi Information Minister Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf (aka Baghdad Bob)?

      I think he prefers Comical Ali.

  29. Planned Launch of New Robotics Product by Vengie · · Score: 3, Funny

    Reuters - Apple Computer Corp (APPL) has announced in a smashing pre-lunch event at its flashy new store in SOHO that the upcoming announcement will focus on the debut of its new pseudo-sentient home robot, capable of interfacing via bluetooth with home devices such as cell phones, bluetooth enabled computers, and the next generation of home appliances.

    The product is scheduled to launch with the name "iRobot....."

    *DUCK* ;)

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    1. Re:Planned Launch of New Robotics Product by chris234 · · Score: 1

      iRobot's taken....

    2. Re:Planned Launch of New Robotics Product by Vengie · · Score: 1

      Sadly enough, I was referring to Isaac Asimov's "I, Robot..."
      hehe....

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  30. Re:mac problem by presearch · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Yawn. Troll. We've all seen this now at least five times.
    You are so clever, it's scary.
    Can't wait for the two 'gay' posts next.

  31. Cocoa by Sophrosyne · · Score: 3, Informative

    Cocoa does not equate to better-
    Cocoa is an application framework. It will not make things faster or better or whatever, If a Carbon app is optimized it will run as fast or faster then Cocoa apps (e.g. The Finder).
    Carbon and Cocoa each have their purposes, which is why they are used in OS X.

    1. Re:Cocoa by sergeantmudd · · Score: 1

      In my opinion Cocoa does equate better. A Carbon application is not any slower than a Cocoa application, and it could easily be faster. But a Cocoa application is more native. The user experience of a Cocoa application is better than a Carbon application because OS X was built for Cocoa apps. Carbon apps are just a way to make OS 9 apps available for OS X.

    2. Re:Cocoa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's completely untrue, numbnuts. OS X was not "built for Cocoa apps." There's ZERO difference between a Carbon and a Cocoa application from the user point of view.

    3. Re:Cocoa by BensonLeung · · Score: 1

      Take for example BBedit. BBedit is a very cleanly written Carbon application, and it runs very very fast in OS X. It takes advantage of a whole bunch of Mac OS X only goodies like live dragging everything, services, and it behaves well among other OS X apps... yet its Carbon all the way through. Good Carbon applications can be written... i guess its just a question of the ease at which it is written. It may be easier and faster to write a good Cocoa application that it is to write a good Carbon application.

    4. Re:Cocoa by timdorr · · Score: 3, Informative

      Cocoa apps are built in Objective C, which uses dynamic binding. Carbon's just plain old C/C++.

      Basically, Cocoa's gotta do a whole lot more overhead to data from a variable. It's gotta check the type in a lookup table and then actually pull out the memory, where as Carbon will just pull from the memory area (cause they type was determined at compile time). This makes Cocoa MUCH more flexible as language, with the expense of a bit of speed.

      So, despite the fact it's the API of choice for OSX, it's still using a language that's slow by nature.

      (note: i use cocoa over carbon ;) )

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    5. Re:Cocoa by bnenning · · Score: 2, Interesting
      If a Carbon app is optimized it will run as fast or faster then Cocoa apps (e.g. The Finder)


      Finder is Carbon, and is hardly a ringing endorsement for it. Sure, it's possible to write bad code with any language or API, but I maintain that given equal amounts of developer time and expertise, a Cocoa app will be better than its Carbon equivalent.

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    6. Re:Cocoa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Cocoa does not equate to better- Cocoa is an application framework. It will not make things faster or better or whatever, If a Carbon app is optimized it will run as fast or faster then Cocoa apps (e.g. The Finder). Carbon and Cocoa each have their purposes, which is why they are used in OS X.
      "Compared to COBOL, Java does not equate to better. Java is a programming language. It will not make things faster or better or whatever. If an COBOL app is optimized it will run as fast or faster than Java apps. Java and COBOL each have their purposes, which is why they are both used in AS/400."

      Well, duh. The purpose of Carbon in MacOS X is the same as the purpose of COBOL in a mainframe. Legacy. Legacy legacy legacy.

      Apple wrote the Finder in Carbon in order to shake out Carbon bugs. Remember? "Eat our own dog food?" Ring a bell? And it's the poster child for Carbon: like the WordPerfect developer's motto used to be, "It may be buggy, but at least it's slow".

      If it weren't for the very large codebase and developerbase in MacOS X that came from the OS 9 side of things (as opposed to starting fresh or coming from NeXTSTEP), Apple would dump Carbon like yesterday's leftovers, and go instead with pure Cocoa sitting on top of low-level UNIX libraries. But as they're stuck with Carbon, Apple has decided to make the best of it, unifying as much of the libraries as they can (moving Cocoa's save panel on top of Carbon etc.) to reduce, among other things, memory footprints of duplicated libraries.

  32. Why is this news? by angle_slam · · Score: 2, Funny
    Apple will make an announcement of some sort in one week. But we have no idea what the announcement will be.

    Yeah, that deserves a Slashdot article.

    1. Re:Why is this news? by gamgee5273 · · Score: 5, Interesting
      It was in the Apple section first, then made its way up to the front page.

      If there's any merit to the Universal rumor, then even the announcement of the press event is news. Remember, the LA Times said that if Apple was going through with the purchase it would be done before the April 29 Vivendi-Universal stockholders meeting.

      Put all the naysaying aside: an IT corporation in charge of one the largest record group? In eight days time, our view of the RIAA and its view of the DMCA could be 180 degrees different than it is right now.

      That deserves a Slashdot story.

    2. Re:Why is this news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Put all the naysaying aside: an IT corporation in charge of one the largest record group? In eight days time, our view of the RIAA and its view of the DMCA could be 180 degrees different than it is right now.

      Sony?

    3. Re:Why is this news? by DumbWhiteGuy777 · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't it make the whole DMCA thing worse, though?

      Cause then if the whole thing goes worse, Apple would control more of what's legal and what's not in it, because of it having more say in the RIAA anyway. So, they would almost make it so that it's legal to own certain MP3s as long as you own an IPod and are playing it with that, in turn edging out other competition, and leading to world doom.

    4. Re:Why is this news? by Alex+Thorpe · · Score: 1

      Nah, Sony is no IT corporation. One of their divisions just happens to be a PC box maker, just something to go with the rest of their consumer electronics.

      --
      "Common Sense Ain't" -Unknown
    5. Re:Why is this news? by gamgee5273 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Well, since I'm writing this from an iBook and listening to Dave Matthews (legally gotten from my personal CD collection) on my iPod...I guess I wouldn't have a problem with that. :)

      Seriously, though: I just said it could change our views. I didn't say it would be for the better.

      Plus, Apple's already edging out the competition in the MP3 player market...they need to stay competitive. ;)

    6. Re:Why is this news? by DumbWhiteGuy777 · · Score: 1

      Ah, okay. I thought you meant we could go from hating the DMCA and RIAA to loving them. I don't forsee that in the near future.

      Aw. I wanted world doom, too.

    7. Re:Why is this news? by angle_slam · · Score: 1
      Put all the naysaying aside: an IT corporation in charge of one the largest record group? In eight days time, our view of the RIAA and its view of the DMCA could be 180 degrees different than it is right now. That deserves a Slashdot story.

      And it has already had two Slashdot stories. Why do we need a third one that basically says, "we'll find out if the other stories are true in a week."? Are we going to get stories every day counting down until the 28th?

    8. Re:Why is this news? by gamgee5273 · · Score: 1
      Yes. The stories are now going to appear every hour. You will now dream of the stories. Your significant other's face will now look like an Apple logo. Your car will like like a Newton 100. You will not be able to escape the Appleness.

      The story is merely stating that the rumored press event is now fact. I can't speak as to why it made its way to the front page. Frankly, I don't care. It's second-page newsworthy to say that the rumors have been true thus far. Obviously enough people are interested, other than you, to see this story reach the front page.

    9. Re:Why is this news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      dude, if you could leagaly own all the MP3s you wanted just because you owned an iPod, wouldn't you buy the iPod?

    10. Re:Why is this news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If there's any merit to the Universal rumor, ...

      There is none. See here.

  33. only on /. by cdf123 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Posting an announcement of an announcement about an up comming announcement.

    "This just in! More news will come in later, story at 11" ;-)

  34. the kind of hype money can't buy by gnurb · · Score: 1

    great marketing on their part. although universal probably likes it more then apple.

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    hooray! it's a sex wiki
  35. Skipping the G5, moving to G6 by digitalgimpus · · Score: 2, Funny

    That would be music to my ears

  36. Other Possibilities by MasterVidBoi · · Score: 1

    Every bit of speculation I've seen focuses on why (not) Apple is going to buy Universal music.

    But this doesn't have to be a black-and-white thing. There have been too many stores in mainstream media for this to be completely groundless (at least, I think so), and Apple can't afford to buy Universal outright, so I believe we should expect either a partial buyout (not even a controlling share), or/and perhaps Steve Jobs taking some significant management position within Universal Music, in addition to his Apple/Pixar duties.

  37. Even if... by SPYvSPY · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Even if the settlement doesn't preclude all such claims in the future, all Apple would need to do is retain the Universal brand name for its music business. The legal problem arises only when Apple starts selling music under the Apple brand name, not when Apple obtains corporate control of a different brand name that sells music.

    1. Re:Even if... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      iApple is legaly correct?
      iUniversal

  38. Dear Apple by IWantMoreSpamPlease · · Score: 1

    ...It remains to be seen if this involves a purchase of Universal - something Apple offically denied just a few days ago...

    Make up your mind!

    Thank you

    --
    So rise up, all ye lost ones, as one, we'll claw the clouds.
  39. Apple's Plan by IWantMoreSpamPlease · · Score: 4, Funny

    (1) Get involved with something radical

    (2) Deny involvment

    (3) Accept involvment

    (4) ???

    (5) Profit!

    --
    So rise up, all ye lost ones, as one, we'll claw the clouds.
    1. Re:Apple's Plan by bmantz65 · · Score: 1

      Step 4: Steal underpants!

  40. Giving me a job offer... by bdhein · · Score: 4, Funny

    THAT would be music to my ears.

    1. Re:Giving me a job offer... by Alex+Thorpe · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't be too bad for me, either, after 7 months unemployment. On the other hand, the local Apple store is a half-hour commute each way, and if there, I'd be on my feet all day, and previous retail jobs have already ruined my feet...

      --
      "Common Sense Ain't" -Unknown
  41. heh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Score: -9, Way Way Too Accurate

  42. rumors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If apple could make money off generating rumors they'd be richer than M$FT.

    Nevermind that actual product anouncements turn out underwhelming thanks to the hype of rumors .. but that's ok Apple fans love being abused.

    Anyway, i bet its a partnership with universal and a higher storage iPod. Maybe with an FM radio with or without 30 second retro recording.

    1. Re:rumors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nevermind that actual product anouncements turn out underwhelming thanks to the hype of rumors

      Which Apple are you talking about? Remember the 17" PowerBook? Remember the new iMac? Remember the iPod? NOBODY saw those coming more than 24 hours in advance, and the only reason the iMac leaked is because an editor at Time Canada fucked up.

      The Apple rumor mill is NEVER right. Which makes Apple's announcements all the more fun.

    2. Re:rumors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Apple rumor mill is NEVER right.

      Uhh, you just proved his point, buttass. The rumors (5 GHz G5s!!!!!!!) are always optimistically wrong, so people feel disappointed in the great stuff (but not as great as the rumors) that they do release.

      Dipshit.

    3. Re:rumors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The rumors (5 GHz G5s!!!!!!!) are always optimistically wrong

      What fucking rumor mill are you listening to, dipshit? Nobody has EVER predicted G5's especially not at 5 GHz. Never ONCE has the rumor mill overshot what Apple was prepared to deliver, except in cases like the iWalk and the video iPod where the rumor mill just completely lost its grip on reality. Hell, the last time around the rumor mill was predicting 1.33 GHz G4's, and Apple announced 1.42 GHz.

      SO SHUT THE FUCK UP!

      (Aside: "buttass?" Is that really the best you can do?)

    4. Re:rumors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ooh!

      get these two saucers of milk!

  43. Re:To all you guys out there... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fruther proof that mac users are gay.

  44. AMEN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    +1 to the Brother of reason, doth quoted above.

  45. Forget Universal and iPods, Half-Life 2! by SiW · · Score: 1

    http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?comments=26039

    "[...]April 28th, which they say is the day that the Half-Life 2 NDA will be lifted"

    Yes, my tongue IS firmly wedged in my cheek.

  46. I agree...keep the 5, keep some market! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    Greater than 5 Gigs is overkill for many casual listeners. Why not drop the price a bit and keep it in the mix? Are they worried about the cheaper model pirating sales of higher margin pods?

    1. Re:I agree...keep the 5, keep some market! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Five GB 2.5" drives are no longer in production. It's not up to Apple whether or not they get to keep selling the 5 GB iPod.

    2. Re:I agree...keep the 5, keep some market! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did I say 2.5"? I meant 1.8". Yes, I am an idiot. Fuck off.

    3. Re:I agree...keep the 5, keep some market! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Alrighty then. How exactly does one "fuck off"? I never figured that one out.

    4. Re:I agree...keep the 5, keep some market! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think it's sort of an abbreviation. Like "go off and fuck" or something. The point, of course, is that it means "leave me alone."

  47. You're a dumbass! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Haven't you read any of these stories? UMG's Board meets the 27th.

    Any attempt at a purchase would be announced after that; however, no one would make that big a thing of it?

    Why? It would take months or more to finalize and could be blocked by any number of actions.

  48. Competitive hardware? by ottffssent · · Score: 0

    Music to my ears. Hm. Ok, here goes:

    20G+ iPod (Apple hasn't a prayer of holding my entire music collection, but let's at least get a decent sized chunk of it, shall we?)
    Bluetooth (or WiFi, whatever) connectivity.
    Induction charger.
    Some way to intelligently decide what should go on the iPod. The Synapse thing would be good here, methinks.

    I'd like to come home, toss my wallet and keys and toys on a mat by the door, and have everything there automatically charge, sync, and get ready for the morning. Without any intervention on my part.

    If Apple made an iPod / PDA comparable to the tiny Sony Clies with the gorgeous displays and included a wireless charger/sync combo, they'd have my business in a second. I would pay a $50 premium for that without blinking, and maybe $100. Convenience rather than power is Apple's game, and I'm eager to see them capitalize on their strengths in non-PC sectors.

    1. Re:Competitive hardware? by kyrre · · Score: 3, Insightful

      >Bluetooth (or WiFi, whatever) connectivity.

      What would be the point of enable the iPod wireless? Bluetooth is damn slow, 802.11b(and g) is a faster, bur require lots of power. The iPod battery does have short enough life span as it is.

      Sure it could be a 'cool' feature, but the increased price, and the decreased battery life will not sell many units.

    2. Re:Competitive hardware? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd like to come home, toss my wallet and keys and toys on a mat by the door, and have everything there automatically charge, sync, and get ready for the morning.

      I'm sure the credit card people would love that. Induction mats erase magnetic strips, Doctor Genius.

    3. Re:Competitive hardware? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Synapse: How many times in one website can we say "Get your (noun) on"?

    4. Re:Competitive hardware? by ottffssent · · Score: 1

      Plugging things in is annoying. I've got a palm pilot cradle, a UPS, and a null modem adapter for network switch testing / configuration all trying to share 2 serial ports. It's not always a pretty picture.

      Wireless connectivity is a power drain, and there's no point if you have to plug the device in to charge. The only reasonable way to do this would be the combination wireless power / wireless connectivity I mentioned earlier. Apple is the only company with sufficient control of their sandbox to implement something like this, IMHO.

      Bluetooth doesn't have to be fast; it only has to be simple. The iPod should retain the firewire connection it has now for sites w/o the charger/sync mat and for bulk data transfers. Bluetooth would be used for maintenance - that is, add a new CD or two to iTunes, and the next morning it shows up on your iPod. Even at 100K/sec (less than 20% Bluetooth's spec'd speed, IIRC), it would be trivial to keep up with 10-20% of the iPod's inventory changing every day.

      We've gotten to the point where the vast majority of consumer electronics have all the power they need. Hopefully the end of that race will herald the begining of a race in terms of usability. People I know with cellphones tend to claim that sticking them in a charger every night isn't an imposition, but these are the same people whose phones die because they forgot to. If it were as simple as "empty your pockets on this table here" and all your gadgets would do the Right Thing(TM), I really think people would come running. I have better things to remember than backing up my laptop, syncing my palm pilot, moving new music onto an iPod, etc. If I'm not going to do it, then a computer has to, and wireless is the only way to accomplish that. The technology exists already; it's just waiting for someone to put it all together into an attractive package with the software to back it up and to sell enough to make it cheap. It's either Apple or Sony, and Sony's busy.

    5. Re:Competitive hardware? by Triv · · Score: 1

      wouldn't be too shabby as a quick way to synch contacts/calendars/etc. Then again, since you've got to plug it in to charge it anyway...

      Triv

    6. Re:Competitive hardware? by kyrre · · Score: 1

      Why let the album or two sync over night wireless, when you can push in just a seconds over firewire. The ipod is good for ten hours or less. So when you get up next morning it is drained. And if you use a powercord to charge it over nigh, why not just plug it in the laptop/desktop to charge. I understand and agree with the wireless update of addressboks, and calendar. It would be nice to just leave the ipod in you backpack and it sync without any action from you. But this probably cost a lot, and it would not sell any more ipods.

  49. Oops. A space snuck into that url. by azav · · Score: 1

    Correct URL for the Ogg xtra for Director:

    http://www.directordev.com/tools/xtras/OggVorbis /O gg.htm

    --
    - Zav - Imagine a Beowulf cluster of insensitive clods...
  50. Text of the Jobs announcement by panurge · · Score: 5, Funny
    To-day, 28 April 2003, Steve Jobs made the following announcement:

    Recently, Apple Computer was approached by beings from the Planet Zog. Zog is the richest planet in known space and all its inhabitants are so intelligent that it has no concept of intellectual property, since anybody is capable of inventing anything he, she or it needs as and when necessary. All Zog software is Open Source, mostly written in VLIW assembler by users as and when required.
    Unfortunately the Zog economy is somewhat overheated, despite a rise in income tax to 99%, and Zog is looking for a way to lose some cash. They have offered to merge Apple with a Zog publicly owned corporation called "We really are Universal Music" (ZSE: WRUM), the present stockholders of Apple to retain 51% of the equity.
    The idea is to introduce a music-on-demand service by which music will be directly downloaded from Zog. Zog has no equivalent of the DMCA since even the cheapest Zog pseudopodheld can crack any form of encryption on the fly, and has been recording the entire data output of the Earth for the last hundred years on the Ogg recorder in some Zog kid's bedroom. To encourage takeup of the service. the new corporation will give away all its hardware and software free for the next 20 years, and offer to replace all Macs in the field free of charge with new terahertz systems running OS MDCLX.

    Jobs then demonstrated the new direct thought to text input PowerBook G93000 which projects a virtual reality 3-D image into the entire visual field, runs for a year on an AAA battery and weighs half an ounce.

    Following the announcement, Microsoft shares rose $3 and Apple shares were $12 down at close of trading. The usual suspects predicted the demise of Apple within 3 weeks, citing the failure to keep up technically with the PC market, and Steve Jobs was slightly injured by a troll from slashdot complaining about file copy speed on a 9600/300. ...try to keep posts on topic

    --
    Panurge has posted for the last time. Thanks for the positive moderations.
    1. Re:Text of the Jobs announcement by ESSBAND. · · Score: 2, Insightful

      'Following the announcement, Microsoft shares rose $3 and Apple shares were $12 down at close of trading. The usual suspects predicted the demise of Apple within 3 weeks, citing the failure to keep up technically with the PC market, and Steve Jobs was slightly injured by a troll from slashdot complaining about file copy speed on a 9600/300. ...try to keep posts on topic'

      Too true. Why is that everytime Apple makes some announcement of pending Great Things, their share prices drop? Sales are up. Share prices down. Good reviews from Wintel-centric publications. Share prices down. Apple can do no right for Wallstreet. Who cares about low marketshare? I didn't think the goal of business was to rule the world--only to make a profit.

      Apple does great things. Not the answer for everyone's needs, but fills a niche pretty well.

      Don't think the announcement will be as great as a G9/3000, but hope that it's nothing as boring as a 40G iPod...

    2. Re:Text of the Jobs announcement by glwtta · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      "Zog? What do you mean, Zog? Zog, yes? Zog, no?"

      heh, Ivanova...

      --
      sic transit gloria mundi
    3. Re:Text of the Jobs announcement by kalidasa · · Score: 2, Funny

      You do realize that someone will try to submit this to one of the Mac rumors sites as a legitimate story, right?

    4. Re:Text of the Jobs announcement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Not a bad idea! I wonder if Ryan could be conned into publishing it...

    5. Re:Text of the Jobs announcement by anti-drew · · Score: 1

      At least one site actually picked it up.

      Of course nobody takes them seriously anyway. Except Apple that is.

  51. It's going to be a music download service by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was listening to NPR's All Things Considered yesterday, and it's probably going to be a music download service. Apple has the major record labels on board to support an Apple music download service.

    Supposedly, the contracts won't allow the record labels to back out if Apple buys Universal. This was the problem for Napster, because BMG thought that the other major record labels wouldn't object to a BMG-run music download service. They did, and this killed Napster as a for-fee download service.

  52. Re:You can't answer all 4 questions: +100, Patriot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    1. Blasted to atoms in a trench in the Tora Bora mountains.
    2. Squashed into jelly under the rubble of a bombed-out restaurant in Baghdad.
    3. The Greenbriar, in West Virginia.
    4. Syria.

  53. What a geek wants (again...) by otis+wildflower · · Score: 1

    .. How many times do we have to wh1ne about it?

    VIDEO IPOD:

    360/426x340 color touchscreen, 40GB HDD, firewire + 'proprietary' port (for AV out) + headphone jack, integration into iWatch (which replaces quicktime and DVD players) that lets you rip DVDs down into that smaller framesize in mpeg4. Throw in bluetooth and charge extra for a bluetooth remote control. $699.

    Just in time for the direct-deposit tax refund!!!

    1. Re:What a geek wants (again...) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why??

      If you think you'd be happy watching DVD's on a 1.5" square screen, you're either fooling yourself or you're an idiot. And if your plan is to plug the iPod into a TV and watch movies that way, how do you deal with the fact that every DVD ever produced has a menu system on it that expects left-right-up-down-enter controls on the remote?

      This is the STUPIDEST idea EVER. Drop it!

    2. Re:What a geek wants (again...) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You had it right the first time, this one's an idiot. Yet you are fairly short sighted yourself. How about a larger screen on the new iPods? How about that? The personal DVD players go as small as a 3 inch screen. So, the idiot isn't that far off. So, this makes you an idiot too. Congratulations

    3. Re:What a geek wants (again...) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about a larger screen on the new iPods?

      If it's smaller than a diagonal foot, it's too small to be a useful DVD player. If it's a foot, it's a laptop.

      The personal DVD players go as small as a 3 inch screen.

      Only a twit would buy such a thing.

    4. Re:What a geek wants (again...) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hello!

  54. iRobot's taken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Steve Jobs - What do you mean we can't use the name iRobot?

    Smithers - It's already been copyrighted by another company.

    Jobs - Release the hounds!

    Small door opens and a pack of drooling lawyers runs to the nearest courthouse.

  55. Who the f--- is moderating? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The above is a little lame (no pun intended), but hardly flamebait and hardly deserving of a -1! Whoever moderated it seems to have an ax to grind. I hope I get to meta-mod this one.

  56. If you can't beat them, buy them. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's no better way to get a recording company to change their mind about your portable 'pirating' device (or iPod) then to buy it--so what if this announcement were to be that they've "acquired" a record company?

    1. Re:If you can't beat them, buy them. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If that is the announcement, that is only part of it. There's the release of the NEW IMPROVED iPods, which you clearly haven't used and clearly do not comprehend the purpose of. But that's ok, there's no accounting for a brain...

    2. Re:If you can't beat them, buy them. by Concerned+Onlooker · · Score: 1

      Or as George Carlin said, "If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten."

      --
      http://www.rootstrikers.org/
  57. Re:Cocoa [OT] by Josuah · · Score: 1

    Cocoa is an application framework. It will not make things faster or better or whatever, If a Carbon app is optimized it will run as fast or faster then Cocoa apps (e.g. The Finder).

    My rudimentary understanding of Carbon and Foundation event handling is that Carbon needs to poll (albeit that the call doesn't return until the event you want occurs) and Foundation doesn't. Perhaps things are done in the same way underneath, but I couldn't say.

  58. What kind of news is this- by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now slashdot is announcing announcements. Why not just wait to find out what the announcement is on the 28th then if it's news worthy publish it? Really now.

  59. Re:Music to my ears by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Asspussy you ROCK!

  60. Neat colors by joelparker · · Score: 1
    I don't believe that many poeple are wiling to trade
    playtime for a few minutes of "Wow! that's neat."

    Have you been to a mall in Asia lately?
    Kids do this to mobile phone LED lights.

    Any battery drain is minimal for the LED,
    and the color light effect is pretty cool.

    Apple knows that innovative design
    gets attention and can drive sales.

    And if it has Vorbis,
    I'll buy it immediately.

    Cheers, Joel

    1. Re:Neat colors by justMichael · · Score: 1

      oh come on, you know this is /. I didn't bother to take into account other peoples opinions. ;)

      Unfortunatelty I have not been to Asia (hope to get there soon), but I have seen all the flashy stuff for cell phones.

      Personally, I prefer my phone to be as stealthy as possible (in the pocket, on vibrate), people don't need to know that I am carrying a phone or that it's ringing. But that's just me because my wifes phone plays some goofy song when it rings.

      So as long as they dont force me to have a glowing box to play my tunes, it's OK by me.

  61. Carbon as long as MacOS 9 supported. by AHumbleOpinion · · Score: 1

    As long as MacOS 9 is supported iTunes will remain Carbon. MacOS 9 may no longer be shipping on new machines but Apple will still be supporting MacOS 9 for years to come. Updated versions of iTunes is an important part of that support.

    1. Re:Carbon as long as MacOS 9 supported. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      iTunes 2 was the last version to support OS 9. iTunes 3 is OS X only. Apple no doubt has reasons to stick with Carbon for iTunes, but OS 9 compatibility isn't one of them.

  62. Re: Dual Screen Powerbooks by goon+america · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I don't see what the big deal is about dual screen ... I have two screens hooked up to my 15" powerbook right now, on which I am typing this.

    It was a real simple hack: get your powerbook, buy an LCD monitor, plug it in. In some cases, you may need to hit the "Detect Displays" button in System Preferences.

    Cool tip: you can set Virtual PC to full screen mode on the second monitor only. Freak people out by dragging windows across the two systems.

  63. new ad campaign by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A team of people said to be working for Apple were approaching people in Washington Sq Park last week in NYC and asking them to sing their favorite song a capella into the camera. They were told the tapes would be reviewed, and those selected would be paid to shoot an Apple commercial in LA. I gathered the format involved people just sort of singing in a plain Switch-like background. Must be related to the music service, was my guess, or the new ipods. They said it didn't matter how well people sang. They seemed to be looking for diversity...from 3 year olds to middle aged guys to college students.

    The plan was to shoot the commercials this week. Could they turn them around that fast?

    1. Re:new ad campaign by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The plan was to shoot the commercials this week. Could they turn them around that fast?

      Using iMovie, yoo betcha.

      Apple put the D in Digital Video.

  64. Re:mac problem by jo_ham · · Score: 1

    Isn't it obvious? Your Mac (the 9600/300 is a fantastic machine btw) is suffering a breakdown because it has to deal with you all day, since you post this in every Apple story.

    Sell it on eBay to someone who doesn't spend the time that most people are having sex/eating/watching tv/commenting intelligently on slashdot and it will be sprightly and effective again.

    "User Error: replace user"

  65. bluetooth headphones not possible.... yet? by johnpaul191 · · Score: 1

    i have read that bluetooth is not able to handle the bandwith of a stereo audio signal with quality that would come close to your wired headphones. Let alone the issue of battery power.

    Bluetooth cellphone headsets require MUCH less data than music, plus they work in other power saving tricks like intermittent broadcasting.

    as attractive as wireless headphones seem, dealing with the battery recharge seems so damn annoying.

  66. New iPods?! by rxed · · Score: 0

    This just sucks. I got new 10G iPod 2 months ago. Seesh.

    1. Re:New iPods?! by Warlock7 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, this has only been in the rumor mills for about three months now. I guess you feel even more stupid than you already did, now, don't you?

    2. Re:New iPods?! by DannyiMac · · Score: 1

      Yeah, the same thing happened to me when I got my rev b iMac... but it was just a couple of weeks later when Apple updated them to the multi-colored iMacs. The lesson I learned: if an Apple product is more than 6 months old, wait for the update.

      --
      - Danny
  67. Re: MP4 DRM by frankie · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I wasn't aware that it had DRM capabilities. I really love the acronym of that last site (Intellectual Property Management & Protection). The obvious pronunciation is "iPimp. The digital pimp for your digital lifestyle."(tm) Yes, Apple has avoided DRM so far, but it's coming.
  68. AAC not good for portable electronics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    AAC has the problem of being much more processor intensive. I question whether AAC is such a good idea for something like the iPod that has lots of cheap space, only stereo output, and strict constraints on heat dissipation and power consumption.

    AAC seems more suited toward digital TV where bandwidth is limited but power consumption is not. That and AAC has the benefit of being 5.1, which you'd need for something in the living room.

  69. Universal announcements by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I highly doubt Apple really needs to BUY Vivendi Universal's music division. They could just sign a strategic business partnership to get rights to all the music. Vivendi gets a cut of the profits and Apple gets to sell Vivendi's music.

    Now isn't that more realistic than Apple spending $6 billion on an industry that's dying?

  70. Re:mac problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I've got a PDP-10 that I haven't the foggiest clue as to how to administer. It sucks ass compared to my Apple ][.


    Oh fuck it. Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. A 604e at 300 MHz will eat a fucking PPro-200 for lunch and go back for seconds. Find someone with half a clue as to how to admin a Mac and you'll find that out. I've got a fucking 68040 40 MHz Quadra that ain't that slow.


    Intellegent reasons to use a Mac would obviously be lost on you.

  71. Music to *MY* ears? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's a bit presumptious.

    The only things that Apple could possibly say that would be music to my ears would be:

    a) They are lowering their prices to be competetive with Windows machines.

    or

    b) They are releasing an x86 port of OS X.

  72. Re:You can't answer all 4 questions: +100, Patriot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    desert you fucker

  73. Re:Oops. A space snuck into that url. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oops, I did it again! I am such a dumbfuck!

  74. Re:Dear Apple by pressman · · Score: 2, Informative

    Dude, the whole Universal thing was just a giant rumor on the web. Apple never made an official announcement that they had any intention of purchasing Universal. Apple has never said anything about Universal until last week when Jobs publicly denied the rumors.

    They've given off no mixed message because they never gave off a message to being with.

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  75. Archos MPEG4 by meehawl · · Score: 1

    Why wait? I note that the scrappy Archos has long been the underdog in the MP3 player/recorders, but their MPEG4 player/recorder just won the "CES 2003 Best of Portable Video & Best of the Show", apparently.

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    1. Re:Archos MPEG4 by otis+wildflower · · Score: 1

      'cuz I want a bigger screen, less-clunky design, integrated 'host' software, and firewire :)

      Still, you're right, one way or another this device is inevitable, if only to take my Mr. Show and South Park divx rips on the ferry ;)

  76. MOD UP! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just tried it and he's right, it says all that. Big joke, evidently. Cool. Somebody mod this dude up! He deserves the Karma!

  77. Re:Dear Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  78. Re:Dear Apple by IWantMoreSpamPlease · · Score: 1

    Which is why the post was supposed to be humor, but it's damn difficult to convey subtle humor in text form.

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  79. iPod FM Transmitter by Slur · · Score: 1

    According to Shawn King of the "Your Mac Life" radio show, Apple is planning to release an FM transmitter for the iPod that will be more flexible and better integrated than the 3rd-party offerings. That should be music to your ... airs.

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    1. Re:iPod FM Transmitter by Alan+Partridge · · Score: 1

      Shawn King is an idiot - he also said that Apple would DEFINITELY release a cellphone about a year ago.

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    2. Re:iPod FM Transmitter by Concerned+Onlooker · · Score: 1
      Could it be more flexible and more integrated than the iTrip from Griffin? This FM transmitter plugs directly into the top of the iPod (no cable) and uses power directly from the player. You can also choose any FM station rather than be limited to a couple, which I believe is the way the iRock works.

      Pretty cool, but I've not read any reviews about the quality of the sound, however.

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    3. Re:iPod FM Transmitter by Cinematique · · Score: 1

      I have one on preorder. With that said, I'm very doubtful the iTrip will sound that great. Even the best FM signal can't match that of a Compact Disc, or a DAT for that matter.

  80. Short wait; the announcement has been made by Concerned+Onlooker · · Score: 2, Informative
    Here is a story about the service Apple will be providing. My favorite quote from the story:
    "it pays royalties to the troubled record industry."
    You know, in some circles troubled means the same as disturbed, if you know what I mean.

    The service will supposedly be easy to use and will offer a deep catalog and the ability to purchase single songs. Isn't this what everyone has been asking for?

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    1. Re:Short wait; the announcement has been made by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The devil is in the details.

      If the details include, oh, say, (a) DRM, or (b) no option to download true-CD-quality tracks, or (c) prices as high as what you would pay for the songs on a physical CD (only without the CD), it will not be a particularly useful service.

      Knowing the way the music industry has behaved, and the way they seem to be happy about this, I have this sneaking suspicion that the devils in the details may very well include all three.

  81. surround sound macs? by kelceylehrich · · Score: 1

    Im thinking theyre brewing up some dobly 5.1 power macs and a nice set of speakers to come with them.

    1. Re:surround sound macs? by Alan+Partridge · · Score: 1

      some what? some dublin 5.1 power macs?

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  82. Apple and music != iPod by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, not necessarily anyway. I'm just hoping Digital Performer 4 (with OS X and Rewire 2.0 compatibility) will finally be announced.

  83. Obligatory "Yes Minister" Quote: (Re:Denial) by lxs · · Score: 1

    Never believe a rumour until it's officially denied

    1. Re:Obligatory "Yes Minister" Quote: (Re:Denial) by Znonymous+Coward · · Score: 1

      Indeed. True words of wisdom.

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  84. Re: MP4 DRM by feldsteins · · Score: 1

    "iPimp. The digital pimp for your digital lifestyle."(tm) Yes, Apple has avoided DRM so far, but it's coming.

    I have no way to know what Apple is and isn't going to do with regard to DRM. Neither do you. All we have is what they have (and haven't) done in the past. I refer you again to this link. What reason do you really have for insisting that Apple is all about DRM all of a sudden?

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  85. Fantastic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Way to play into the Apple marketing machine.

    So you've got some Apple marketing goons sitting around wondering how to increase the hype on "New Product X". Simple...they release an ambigious non-news item through unofficial channels it gets slurped right up. Apple fanboys will be sitting around for the next week dreaming about what it could possibly be.

    This is the sort of non content that is degrading slashdot into a glorified rumor site.

  86. Music Service by tobes · · Score: 1

    haven't you guys seen this? No mention of format though.

  87. Re:Dear Apple by SoupIsGoodFood_42 · · Score: 1

    They denied buying Universal. They didn't say they would never have anything to do with Universal. Read between the lines.

  88. Re:Dear Apple by pressman · · Score: 1

    Gotta work on it, man. It definitely didn't come across that way. Good try though!

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  89. Re:Music to my ears by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nope, sorry, wrong guy. Can't say who for I have Karma to protect.

  90. apple is hiring philippe kahn by swschrad · · Score: 1

    and they're gonna jam through the announcement so nobody hears what's said behind the podium.

    that's my fantasy, your turn...

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    if this is supposed to be a new economy, how come they still want my old fashioned money?
  91. Update 1.2.6 solves battery issues by hackshack · · Score: 1

    The iPod's "sleep mode" is the real thing that benefits from the update. I went from needing to recharge every 24 hours to needing a charge every 10 days or so. Anyone complaining about battery life should update their firmware.

  92. I used to think Apple was communist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now, I know it's actually facist. But, not a surprise, in the land of the free! Oh well. They can always tell the business they drive out if they don't like Apple, TOO BAD!

  93. Doesn't Apple make reliable products? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Firmware? Updates? Tools???!?!?! Is THIS why I bought a Mac!?!?!

  94. But the real question is... by MikeXpop · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...what color will the eighth notes be on the iTunes 4 icon?

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    1. Re:But the real question is... by suyashs · · Score: 1

      A totally new icon would be great! or... at least an updated one like Final Cut Pro 4...

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    2. Re:But the real question is... by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      Black.

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  95. Re:mac problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All I can say is that my iBook 500 MHz is much much faster than my 700 MHz PIII desktop.

    Now go away.

  96. Re:You can't answer all 4 questions: +100, Patriot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    (+1, yes)

  97. Grammar Error by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Hell, give this guy an extra mod point just because he knows his grammar well enough not to write "off of"!!!
    That made my day!!!

    That should be just "off".
    1. Re:Grammar Error by kalidasa · · Score: 1

      That's what I said. I said "give this guy an extra mod point," i.e., he's good, "just because he knows his grammar well enough NOT to write 'off of'." I.e., "off" is correct, "off of" (the most common thing posted on slashdot) is wrong. Could you please RTFP next time?

    2. Re:Grammar Error by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Methinks someone missed the joke.

  98. Not exactly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, just like two keynotes ago when they 100% guaranteed no superdrives in powerbooks. What does jobs announce? Superdrives in powerbooks.

    Yes, thinksecret is the best but even so they're wrong 50% of the time. Unless they got screenshots. They only seem to post screenshots of software they have their hands on (I assume).

  99. Re:Oops. A space snuck into that url. by FunkyChild · · Score: 2, Informative

    Don't worry, it's not you, it's slashcode. Spaces are automaticallly inserted into long 'words' to stop trolls from mucking up the horizontal scrolling of the page by posting really really long words.

  100. Re:Press Release by t0ny · · Score: 1

    Im not homophobic at all.

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  101. Re:Dear Apple by Dr+Reducto · · Score: 1

    But, the rumor was also featured on CNBC, CNN, and other financial news services. That makes me pretty sure that is going to happen.

  102. ..by the time by DannyiMac · · Score: 1

    But by the time I could afford one, Apple would have the G10.

    Once you've found a good naming scheme, stick with it!

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  103. This announcement Scares me. by Dolemite_the_Wiz · · Score: 1

    Why do I get the feeling that Jobs is about to pull the proverbial rug out from under the Archaic RIAA.

    Dolemite
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  104. 30 GB iPods! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    30 GB iPods! Imagine a beowulf clu-- *slap*

    sorry...

  105. Re: MP4 DRM by h3 · · Score: 1
    What reason do you really have for insisting that Apple is all about DRM all of a sudden?
    I don't know what reason the original poster had, but it was stated that Apple was implementing DRM in relation to the music service it was planning back when that was announced (related slashdot story). The music execs wouldn't go for it without that.
  106. Re: MP4 DRM by feldsteins · · Score: 1

    The music execs wouldn't go for it without that.

    We'll see. I think it's been their wet dream to have a digital download business model that was both sucessful and had DRM. But so far nobody has been able to pull it off. The position of Mr. Jobs, however, has been "let people manage their media on any and all devices they own" etc. He's been against DRM from the start and been quite outspoken about it. (It's sort of irritating to keep running into slashdotters who believe Apple is the DRM king or something. Dunno where they got that idea.)

    So who won the fight? Apple or the RIAA? I guess we'll see. I hope Steve won. Because if he did there won't be any post-purchase restrictions on the downloaded files.

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  107. Suggestion: free downloads with iPods by didlybom · · Score: 1

    Maybe they could offer something like 1,000 free downloads when you buy an iPod.

  108. It's Ogg.. by sik0fewl · · Score: 1

    It's Ogg, not OGG!

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    1. Re:It's Ogg.. by feldsteins · · Score: 1

      Yeah I know. Just getting back at the "MAC" crowd ;)

      Actually, I didn't know. Thanks!

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  109. More like... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    (1) Get involved with something radical
    (1a) Stock value decreases

    (2) Deny involvment
    (2a) Stock value decreases

    (3) Accept involvment
    (3a) Stock value decreases

    (4) ???
    (4a) Stock value decreases

    (5) Profit!
    (5a) Stock value decreases

  110. Re:ZOG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Zionist Occupational Government... why are we bringing up this anti-semitic BS here?

  111. iStation Pictures at SpyMac by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.spymac.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo= 27110

  112. Green by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Green, of course! :P