Duh. Won't work because the windows driver simply uses bios modelines to set resolutions. With the windows driver you're limited to the resolutions added to the BIOS by VIA. On the other hand if you're using the Linux drivers you can set any arbitary video mode due to the work of Luc Verhaegen.
Perhaps not so interesting, the CN400 only supports H263 mpeg4 'assistance' and when we last benchmarked we were actually getting better performance using software only decoding than using the hardware. It will be interesting to see what the next 700 series chips can do since they are slated to support h264 decoding.
If you use the VIA supplied driver (comes in binary and re-compilable versions)
No it doesn't, the VIA mpeg driver is binary only.
supported MythTV like they do the VeMP and ViaeXP players
They are hardly "supporting" Mplayer and Xine, they have created their own versions that they now need to try and keep in step with the upstream packages.
Absolutely agree, but the big grouping makes sense for kde to keep things manageable, together and so people know where to find things, the sub-components are easilly fragmentable by distros and as you have pointed out, at the very least gentoo does that already.
On the other hand its quite handy to have a raft of similar/associated applications installed together, since users will often then "browse" and be impressed or surprised when they stumble across something interesting.
But again... the original post was wrong KDE isn't bloated, it's packed with features. If someone decides to install everything and the kitchen sink, they can't then complain oh there's way too much useful stuff here.:)
KDE comprises a huge range of applications, these are contained in multiple packages.
You don't 'need' to install them all. kdebase and kdelibs contain the core environment, and while not being stripped to the bone, are hardly bloated.
The specific example you have problems with ktuberling (Potato Head) is actually contained in the additional package "kdegames". k3b is in the additional package "extragear"
We do it with spammers and irresponsible ISP's, Why not a country ?
What about an entire continent? No that would be just plain stupid wouldn't it...
Oh wait isn't Verizon still blocking the entire of Europe from sending email to their servers?
Well you should care.
It's YOU as the consumer who is the only person capable of changing the attitudes and mindset of the hardware manufacturers.
If no one complains to them... or can be bothered to protest with their wallets and actively support companies who do provide Linux support, then there's no incentive for them to change their behaviour is there?
3) If your distribution does not support every single hardware component my computer has out of the box ..and how do you propose open source developers perform that minor miracle in the face of hardware companies who are actively hostile to GNU/Linux and not only refuse to provide drivers but actually refuse to provide information on how to write drivers?
Yeah the trouble is that the person who submitted the story linked to the old "original" result set i.e. the "/orig/" in the url rather than the more complete more recent results at: http://www.ivor.it/goog
I guess the "MSN against Google" report is more attention grabbing.
I was comparing to the ratios of the netcraft survey. Also if you look at the more recent report which unfortunately wasn't linked in the submitters post you'll see I compare Google, MSN, Teoma and Yahoo.
"since there are no links back to the main/goog/ page or the multi-engine tests from/orig/"
Yeah I didn't submit the post. The person who did should have linked to the proper report.... clearly when I wrote the/orig/ report I didn't have a newer one to link to! so I just linked the old one into the new one. I've put a link back to the current one now anyway.
I agree completely with all your points. I just spotted something odd when I did a search and wanted to see what was up, (and practice my perl charting at the same time)... personally I was surprised at the results and thought they were interesting enough to post.
You are quite right, they don't prove anything. They are simply interesting.
You are quite right. I wasn't implying malice. I was just pointing out that there seemed to be a weird minor statistical anomoly.... and I was curious what was causing it.
Nah, the binary interface just hides the register specs to their chipset. All the actual mpeg code is inside the chipset.
This is more likely simply an attempt to control the provision of the API to their own proprietary VMI (VIA MPEG Interface) SDK. Basically an attempt to tie people to their platform, so that once you write yoru code to work on VIA systems, you'll have to write it over again if you want to use anyone elses hardware.
Running a few tests against the results shows the MSN search returning proportionally more IIS servers for the same results than Google, Teoma or Yahoo.
Analysis here
Slashdot Mirror
Another thing to experiment with, if that doesn't work is to see if the problem continues if you remove the CDROM.
Most of the dma issues are caused by the longhaul module.
Duh. Won't work because the windows driver simply uses bios modelines to set resolutions.
With the windows driver you're limited to the resolutions added to the BIOS by VIA.
On the other hand if you're using the Linux drivers you can set any arbitary video mode due to the work of Luc Verhaegen.
Perhaps not so interesting, the CN400 only supports H263 mpeg4 'assistance' and when we last benchmarked we were actually getting better performance using software only decoding than using the hardware.
It will be interesting to see what the next 700 series chips can do since they are slated to support h264 decoding.
If you use the VIA supplied driver (comes in binary and re-compilable versions)
No it doesn't, the VIA mpeg driver is binary only.
supported MythTV like they do the VeMP and ViaeXP players
They are hardly "supporting" Mplayer and Xine, they have created their own versions that they now need to try and keep in step with the upstream packages.
Absolutely agree, but the big grouping makes sense for kde to keep things manageable, together and so people know where to find things, the sub-components are easilly fragmentable by distros and as you have pointed out, at the very least gentoo does that already.
:)
On the other hand its quite handy to have a raft of similar/associated applications installed together, since users will often then "browse" and be impressed or surprised when they stumble across something interesting.
But again... the original post was wrong KDE isn't bloated, it's packed with features. If someone decides to install everything and the kitchen sink, they can't then complain oh there's way too much useful stuff here.
KDE comprises a huge range of applications, these are contained in multiple packages.
You don't 'need' to install them all.
kdebase and kdelibs contain the core environment, and while not being stripped to the bone, are hardly bloated.
The specific example you have problems with ktuberling (Potato Head) is actually contained in the additional package "kdegames".
k3b is in the additional package "extragear"
We do it with spammers and irresponsible ISP's, Why not a country ?
What about an entire continent? No that would be just plain stupid wouldn't it...
Oh wait isn't Verizon still blocking the entire of Europe from sending email to their servers?
Well you should care.
It's YOU as the consumer who is the only person capable of changing the attitudes and mindset of the hardware manufacturers. If no one complains to them... or can be bothered to protest with their wallets and actively support companies who do provide Linux support, then there's no incentive for them to change their behaviour is there?
3) If your distribution does not support every single hardware component my computer has out of the box
..and how do you propose open source developers perform that minor miracle in the face of hardware companies who are actively hostile to GNU/Linux and not only refuse to provide drivers but actually refuse to provide information on how to write drivers?
LOL. The test is supposed to be broken. It's checking that renderers fall back correctly.
Why do you need a commercial service in the UK? The Radio Times provides an excellent free listings service for mythtv.
Yeah the trouble is that the person who submitted the story linked to the old "original" result set i.e. the "/orig/" in the url rather than the more complete more recent results at: http://www.ivor.it/goog
I guess the "MSN against Google" report is more attention grabbing.
I was comparing to the ratios of the netcraft survey. Also if you look at the more recent report which unfortunately wasn't linked in the submitters post you'll see I compare Google, MSN, Teoma and Yahoo.
It wasn't actually. It was on newsforge/vac.
:)
But if you think you can find the story on slash... go search.
Hi,
/goog/ page or the multi-engine tests from /orig/"
/orig/ report I didn't have a newer one to link to! so I just linked the old one into the new one.
"since there are no links back to the main
Yeah I didn't submit the post. The person who did should have linked to the proper report.... clearly when I wrote the
I've put a link back to the current one now anyway.
I agree completely with all your points. I just spotted something odd when I did a search and wanted to see what was up, (and practice my perl charting at the same time)... personally I was surprised at the results and thought they were interesting enough to post.
You are quite right, they don't prove anything. They are simply interesting.
Cheers,
Ivor.
"Or test against the other top 4 search engines, other than Google?"
OR.. did you read the page that looked at Google, MSN, Yahoo and Teoma before typing in your opinions?
Where is it written I have to perform whatever statistical analysis you deem necessary before publishing results?
I simply found something curious and wrote about it. Big deal.
If someone wants to spend the time doing funky heavy statistical calculations, then they can do it.
It's even longer since I took stats, and I didn't get a very good score.
You are quite right. I wasn't implying malice. I was just pointing out that there seemed to be a weird minor statistical anomoly.... and I was curious what was causing it.
Yup, I'm still in a shadow.
Tha article actually links to an older smaller version of the analysis. There's a more comprehensive wordlist at: http://www.ivor.it/goog
Nah, the binary interface just hides the register specs to their chipset. All the actual mpeg code is inside the chipset.
This is more likely simply an attempt to control the provision of the API to their own proprietary VMI (VIA MPEG Interface) SDK. Basically an attempt to tie people to their platform, so that once you write yoru code to work on VIA systems, you'll have to write it over again if you want to use anyone elses hardware.
unichrome project response
Sigh. England is not just London.
Sellafield/Windscale is rather a long way away.
Do you think they'd site a nuclear reprocessing plant anywhere near the Members of Parliament or their houses in the home counties? c'mon.
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http://www.ivor.it/goog - MSN Search unbiased?
Running a few tests against the results shows the MSN search returning proportionally more IIS servers for the same results than Google, Teoma or Yahoo. Analysis here