yah...tis very hard to seperate them...but they are still difference (as you note when saying the Atreides family fits within fantasy).
A classic example is Anne McCaffery Dragonrider of Pern series. On the surface it looks like a fantasy, but once you read it, the people are settlers from earth, who left because of poor conditions to start a low technolgy settlement. The Dragons come into it through genetic engineering to provide a long term solution to the spawn? fire? whateer from the planet, that rains down every 200 years or so from a passing planet and destroys the settlement.
Its one of those books that my sister think is fantasy, and I think is Sci-Fi.
But its a good book because of it story and characters...no matter what catagory you put it in.
Though I find it hard to nail down a great definition of Fantasy, great Sci Fi is not Fantasy.
Fantasy generally contain spells, mythical creatures and/or some sort of super natural. Sci Fi can be very similar, but with "scientific" reasons behind it. If you follow this arguement through, you will notice that it gets *very* hard to distinguish the difference. If can define the difference better,please let me know.
There are some authors (Anne McKathery (sp?)) who blend Sci-Fi/Fantasy. I like these authors.
I was mistaken, it is not a Halon system, but an Inergen Gas System.
Same comments apply though...most people think it will kill you if you are left in the room, at worse you will feel dizzy. You are more likely to be bruised from a video tape hitting you on the head.
Oh, and the "test" cost us something like $10,000. They cost heaps to put in, and heaps when they go off.
I was in a large shared server facility that still used a Halon system, which when released, fills the area suffocating the fire (and any living creatures in the area as well).
Lots of people have been saying that Halon systems kill all living things when they go off.
Thats not true.
I work at a large Cable Company in Oz (not foxtel). The tape library here has a Halon system (as do most tape libraries in media centers...need to for insurance).
Yes, the Halon system sucks most air out of the room...but it is a *most*, not *all*. There is *just* enough air left which allows people to breath...just.
We had it go off once, with a technition inside (I think it was testing or something). The guy survived...but did say it go hard to breath. The general consesus amongst the staff is that you don't wanna be caught in there, but if you are, you are more likely to be knocked out or injured by the tapes flying off the shelves (Cause of the sucking).
But the users, as a general rule, were much much worse then PC users.
I worked Tech Support 5 years. I am an advid Mac user.
Your statement is very correct. Almost.
A higher percentage of the Mac callers are from people who have no idea. Why? Because those who have even a tiny idea can work it out themselves. That was my theory. And we backed it up with some numbers.
- A Mac user was less likely to call for support than a Windows user. - A Mac user who called was much more likely to fall into the "idiot" catagory.
This was because 20% (approx) of windows users who called were in the idiot basket. The other 80% had some idea, but Windows can be hard and thus they called.
80% of Mac users who called in were idiots. The other 20% had some idea, but we all make mistakes.
In summary, there were less calls from the Mac population, but they were more likely to be idiots. There were more calls from the Windows Population (representative), but they were more likely to be with it.
SYDNEY SYDNEY SYDNEY OIH! OIH! OIH! (our national, inspirational, feindishly hard, and totally original way cry! OK, for the national cry we replace "SYDNEY" with "AUSSIE").
Bleh.. Just give me a cheap black box that does one thing WELL, rather than fifty things half-assed.
Unlike your PC, your refrigerator/freezer, Lounge/Dining room, CD/DVD player, VHS Recorder and Player, Your Combined Stereo System or any other of the many appliances and things that do more then one functionality.
There have been many bad examples of combining functionality, but in the end, convergence is generally a good thing. But, as always, avoid the early attempts, they suck. Wait for attempt 2-5 when things are much better.
2. The unauthorized use or reproduction of copyrighted or patented material: software piracy. 3. The operation of an unlicensed, illegal radio or television station.
Once a word becomes common usage for something, thats what it means. We have a living, breathing, changing language.
"The more laws, the less justice."
-- Marcus Tullius Cicero De Officiis [1195]
"...For nothing is more destructive of respect for the government and the law of the land than passing laws which cannot be enforced. It is an open secret that the dangerous increase of crime in this country is closely connected with this. --Albert Einstein, "My First Impression of the U.S.A.", 1921
Yes, you are quite right. I believe Robert Heinlien also states something simular (or quotes Einstein).
It's just a case of greed. Corporate greed and user greed. The OptusNet cable division has turned a profit for the first time, but they need more money to pay for the other bits of optus, so to speak, that run at a loss.
Optus has not made a profit on its cable division.
Nor has it come close to paying off the cost of putting the cable into your house.
Over the last financial year, Optus lost $400 million!
Mobile made a profit, as did long distance, buisness and dial up services.
Optus Cable, both IP and TV lost money. In a big way. Be thankful they haven't shut down the division, as was discussed in last weeks financial review.
And you should be thankful compared to telstra, for many reasons.
- Telstra FORCED everyone onto the 3gig plan, and didn't honour current contracts. Optus is. - Telstra charges something like 15c a megabyte when you go over the plan. Thats a very expensive mistake you can make. - If you are on a contract with Optus, they are honouring it. - They won't cut your connection if you go over your limit. - They won't charge you lots of money either. - Think of the good deal you have been given so far. $30USD unlimmited (almost) broad-band internet connection of the highest quality? Those sorts of prices are good even in the USA!
http://money.excite.com/jsp/nw/nwdt_rt.jsp?news_ id =reu-n22237562&feed=reu&date=20020122
I misnamed Ultimate TV for MS TV. And the article does say that the division was closed.
Of course that doesn't mean other MS TV activities have stoped, nor that they have given up (or totally stoped) iTV work.
SEATTLE, Jan 22 (Reuters) - Microsoft Corp. (MSFT) is eliminating its Ultimate TV unit but will bring the product into its MSN consumer group in an effort to consolidate its various television-related initiatives, a company spokeswoman said on Tuesday.
The move will affect about 500 jobs at the Ultimate TV unit in Mountain View, California. About two-thirds of those will be immediately moved to other areas of Microsoft while the rest will have three months to find other work at Microsoft or can choose to leave, spokeswoman Erin Brewer said.
Ultimate TV is a Microsoft product that marries digital video recording capabilities with basic interactive and Internet functions.
Oh, and sorry, I was told last week by some Liberate Employees that the Campus was not being used anymore, which sounded right when compared to the previousely mentioned article that talked about the employees being layed-off or redistruted around MS.
Yep, musta been just some FUD they were spreading (in case people haven't realised, Liberate/OpenTV/Microsoft aren't the best of friends:-)
Jan 22nd, 2002: The change will also mean that one-third of the 500 positions in the UltimateTV business will be eliminated. Employees in those positions will have three months to find other jobs within Microsoft, Brewer said. If they don't find a new position within that period, they will receive a severance package.
The remaining two-thirds of the employees will be reassigned to jobs within the MSN, Xbox or Microsoft TV divisions.
The article points out that MS have been through several attempts of doing iTV, and so far have not been successful.
And of course MS won't give up! They are trying, and trying hard. As always, they will keep throwing money at the problem, and keep working hard (including restructuring, laying off people where needed etc) until they hit the right formula.
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yah...tis very hard to seperate them...but they are still difference (as you note when saying the Atreides family fits within fantasy).
A classic example is Anne McCaffery Dragonrider of Pern series. On the surface it looks like a fantasy, but once you read it, the people are settlers from earth, who left because of poor conditions to start a low technolgy settlement. The Dragons come into it through genetic engineering to provide a long term solution to the spawn? fire? whateer from the planet, that rains down every 200 years or so from a passing planet and destroys the settlement.
Its one of those books that my sister think is fantasy, and I think is Sci-Fi.
But its a good book because of it story and characters...no matter what catagory you put it in.
Yeah, Anne McCaffery
I knew I was a long way off!
And funily enough...my sister is a big fan of hers too...in fact, it was my sister who introduced me to it.
Though I find it hard to nail down a great definition of Fantasy, great Sci Fi is not Fantasy.
Fantasy generally contain spells, mythical creatures and/or some sort of super natural. Sci Fi can be very similar, but with "scientific" reasons behind it. If you follow this arguement through, you will notice that it gets *very* hard to distinguish the difference. If can define the difference better,please let me know.
There are some authors (Anne McKathery (sp?)) who blend Sci-Fi/Fantasy. I like these authors.
dude, you are so right!
We should refrain from putting ANYTHING in space...just in case we are putting things in the way of future spaceshots or uglify psace!
but seriously....if we don't do space stuff, the future won't. So don't sweat it!
Sharp VS Sony.
oops. Should be Sanyo VS Sony.
Sharp posted the story.
damn corporate politics are hard to work out!
Love to see these in Robo-cup.
Either against the Sony Dogs, or on their own.
Sharp VS Sony.
nice.
After that we did some very thorough auditing on all of the routing code - and fortunately didn't find any other surprises lurking.
yet.
Sorry, correction is needed.
I was mistaken, it is not a Halon system, but an Inergen Gas System.
Same comments apply though...most people think it will kill you if you are left in the room, at worse you will feel dizzy. You are more likely to be bruised from a video tape hitting you on the head.
Oh, and the "test" cost us something like $10,000. They cost heaps to put in, and heaps when they go off.
Mike
I was in a large shared server facility that still used a Halon system, which when released, fills the area suffocating the fire (and any living creatures in the area as well).
Lots of people have been saying that Halon systems kill all living things when they go off.
Thats not true.
I work at a large Cable Company in Oz (not foxtel). The tape library here has a Halon system (as do most tape libraries in media centers...need to for insurance).
Yes, the Halon system sucks most air out of the room...but it is a *most*, not *all*. There is *just* enough air left which allows people to breath...just.
We had it go off once, with a technition inside (I think it was testing or something). The guy survived...but did say it go hard to breath. The general consesus amongst the staff is that you don't wanna be caught in there, but if you are, you are more likely to be knocked out or injured by the tapes flying off the shelves (Cause of the sucking).
Mike
But the users, as a general rule, were much much worse then PC users.
I worked Tech Support 5 years.
I am an advid Mac user.
Your statement is very correct. Almost.
A higher percentage of the Mac callers are from people who have no idea. Why? Because those who have even a tiny idea can work it out themselves. That was my theory. And we backed it up with some numbers.
- A Mac user was less likely to call for support than a Windows user.
- A Mac user who called was much more likely to fall into the "idiot" catagory.
This was because 20% (approx) of windows users who called were in the idiot basket. The other 80% had some idea, but Windows can be hard and thus they called.
80% of Mac users who called in were idiots. The other 20% had some idea, but we all make mistakes.
In summary, there were less calls from the Mac population, but they were more likely to be idiots. There were more calls from the Windows Population (representative), but they were more likely to be with it.
And the web site of the SYDNEY morning herald is http://www.smh.com.au.
SYDNEY SYDNEY SYDNEY
OIH! OIH! OIH!
(our national, inspirational, feindishly hard, and totally original way cry! OK, for the national cry we replace "SYDNEY" with "AUSSIE").
Bleh.. Just give me a cheap black box that does one thing WELL, rather than fifty things half-assed.
Unlike your PC, your refrigerator/freezer, Lounge/Dining room, CD/DVD player, VHS Recorder and Player, Your Combined Stereo System or any other of the many appliances and things that do more then one functionality.
There have been many bad examples of combining functionality, but in the end, convergence is generally a good thing. But, as always, avoid the early attempts, they suck. Wait for attempt 2-5 when things are much better.
Does this mean anyone who doesn't comment is in breach of your copywrite?
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© gvonk, 2002, all rights reserved, etc.
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You left off means 2 and 3
http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=piracy
2. The unauthorized use or reproduction of copyrighted or patented material: software piracy.
3. The operation of an unlicensed, illegal radio or television station.
Once a word becomes common usage for something, thats what it means. We have a living, breathing, changing language.
"The more laws, the less justice."
-- Marcus Tullius Cicero De Officiis [1195]
"...For nothing is more destructive of respect for the government and the law of the land than
passing laws which cannot be enforced. It is an open secret that the dangerous increase
of crime in this country is closely connected with this.
--Albert Einstein, "My First Impression of the U.S.A.", 1921
Yes, you are quite right. I believe Robert Heinlien also states something simular (or quotes Einstein).
No effect at all.
Have worked with ISPs in Oz for 5 years.
There is no censorship in place. In any way, shape or form.
It is not mandatory, and not followed.
It's just a case of greed. Corporate greed and user greed. The OptusNet cable division has turned a profit for the first time, but they need more money to pay for the other bits of optus, so to speak, that run at a loss.
Optus has not made a profit on its cable division.
Nor has it come close to paying off the cost of putting the cable into your house.
Over the last financial year, Optus lost $400 million!
Mobile made a profit, as did long distance, buisness and dial up services.
Optus Cable, both IP and TV lost money. In a big way. Be thankful they haven't shut down the division, as was discussed in last weeks financial review.
And you should be thankful compared to telstra, for many reasons.
- Telstra FORCED everyone onto the 3gig plan, and didn't honour current contracts. Optus is.
- Telstra charges something like 15c a megabyte when you go over the plan. Thats a very expensive mistake you can make.
- If you are on a contract with Optus, they are honouring it.
- They won't cut your connection if you go over your limit.
- They won't charge you lots of money either.
- Think of the good deal you have been given so far. $30USD unlimmited (almost) broad-band internet connection of the highest quality? Those sorts of prices are good even in the USA!
Regulate Disney!
http://www.snopes2.com/disney/parks/deaths.htm
deaths at Disney!
Commercial Space Tourism.
Like all industries, first for the superrich, then for the rich, and then for the rest of us.
Expect things to go through several false starts first though.
Remove the space between the "news_id" and "=reu-n222".
Check out:
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http://money.excite.com/jsp/nw/nwdt_rt.jsp?news
I misnamed Ultimate TV for MS TV. And the article does say that the division was closed.
Of course that doesn't mean other MS TV activities have stoped, nor that they have given up (or totally stoped) iTV work.
SEATTLE, Jan 22 (Reuters) - Microsoft Corp. (MSFT) is eliminating its Ultimate TV unit but will bring the product into its MSN consumer group in an effort to consolidate its various television-related initiatives, a company spokeswoman said on Tuesday.
The move will affect about 500 jobs at the Ultimate TV unit in Mountain View, California. About two-thirds of those will be immediately moved to other areas of Microsoft while the rest will have three months to find other work at Microsoft or can choose to leave, spokeswoman Erin Brewer said.
Ultimate TV is a Microsoft product that marries digital video recording capabilities with basic interactive and Internet functions.
Looks like the URL got cut...let me try it again:
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Check out
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http://money.excite.com/jsp/nw/nwdt_rt.jsp?
Oh, and sorry, I was told last week by some Liberate Employees that the Campus was not being used anymore, which sounded right when compared to the previousely mentioned article that talked about the employees being layed-off or redistruted around MS.
:-)
Yep, musta been just some FUD they were spreading (in case people haven't realised, Liberate/OpenTV/Microsoft aren't the best of friends
Check out:
http://news.com.com/2100-1040-819763.html
Jan 22nd, 2002:
The change will also mean that one-third of the 500 positions in the UltimateTV business will be eliminated. Employees in those positions will have three months to find other jobs within Microsoft, Brewer said. If they don't find a new position within that period, they will receive a severance package.
The remaining two-thirds of the employees will be reassigned to jobs within the MSN, Xbox or Microsoft TV divisions.
The article points out that MS have been through several attempts of doing iTV, and so far have not been successful.
And of course MS won't give up! They are trying, and trying hard. As always, they will keep throwing money at the problem, and keep working hard (including restructuring, laying off people where needed etc) until they hit the right formula.
Check out: http://www.tvpredictions.com/newsarchive.html
for a news-archive of iTV related stuff.