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Ximian gets new CEO
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Amen buddy.
KDE quietly builds products instead of throwing out press releases. Good quality / good looking / seamlesly working products. They don't engage in flame / feature / license wars (or I haven't noticed!).
Example, look at Konqueror (kde 2.1.1). In the browsing department it wins hands down. I stopped using Mozilla/netscape long back when I found Konq. When I first saw it, I wondered why there was not much hype about this fabulous product. Instead there was a humble press release.
KDE believes in mind share by superior products. Not by 'ethics' or 'religion' associated with CDEs (qt/gtk, c/c++). I certainly believe they have made the right choices so far.
I am in San Francisco bay area. I own a Qualcomm (those cheap / slim phones). Totally awesome! I got the phone for less than $40 from circuit city. It has better reception than those $299 (with one year contract) starTacs!!
Sprint's coverage isn't as ubiquitiuos (Sp) as oxygen. But it works for me.
I also like the no contract service (month to month). I guess only sprint bets its business on service rather than locking people in for ONE year minimum. You hear me AT&T?
Yep, tried
sales@..
sales_boston@...
both bounce back! how? DO you think their mail servers are overloaded?
And do fellow geeks think, this sort of 'attack' or attention works? I for one believe in voting with my dollar. If I don't like a company policy, I write them and tell why they won't be getting my money. Even though I get to do this very few times, it works surprisingly well.
Is there any other proven method to get companies attention on matters like this?
I hate when people release documents/press releases on web with proprietary (Sp?) format. It is NASA for crying out loud, even MS does their PRs in HTML.
I sent back any word resumes I receive and ask them to send me a txt/HTML format. Most realize there are people out there who don't have the latest word 2000, and will send a text version along with it next time. But some wheenies complain "but you will loose all the format". I tossed this guy's resume and replied to him, that I am looking to hire a programmer based on experience, not a secretary who can format docs.
We should stick to open standards, atleast when they are available for free and widely in use.
I am totally with you. When I started looking for broadband a year ago, the choices were very few. All the cable modems are available in all other parts of country, but not SV.
I have At&T digital cable in Daly City. But AT&T still doesn't have internet over cable here. Mind you, population density in Daly CIty is high so that is not an issue.
two things that turns me off about SV
- high living cost
- lack of 'decent' broadband access.
Kind of ironic, we live in the 'hub' of internet, and our home access sucks that badly.
I guess it is to do with the infrastructure. Most of the work here in California (and US) were done after WWII (using military personal just lying around after war). So it is pretty old, and can not support anything more than plain old voice. ON the contrary, 'new cities' use more advanced media for phone/cable lines and they can sustain the growth. Not to mention the competition and clue-lessness of major players (pacbell, AT&T) is not helping either...
All I see here is discussions about 'line of sight' and 'tallest tower' & 'sprint cell phone'.
can I see some comments about the 'actual internet experience' please?
I know this is offered in BayArea (I have recieved a flyer from Sprint). how is the service around San Francisco city area? I have DSL with covad. Is it worth a move. I specially liked the 'no contract' clause (it is month to month)
I have read these books that gave me a lot of insight in how this computing was commercialized (IBM/apple/microsoft). Very light reading too. You may not want them directly on your curriculam, but suggest them as extra reading.
Accidental empires - By Robert X Crignley. Funny & interesting read. Talks a lot about how w IBM lost & Microsoft rised.
I will second that. I had nothing but pleasant experience with Covad. Their install people were knowledgable, and knew what they were doing. I am familiar with the horror stories with Pac bell (bay area).
I get a static IP, un interrupted service, and a curtesy mail when they perform repairs on lines/routers.
But recently there were also in trouble, as their ISPs aren't paying the bills.
LIme wire is a COOL gnutella client. I have been using it for a couple of months. Here is a list of what I like
multiple searches at once. This by far the biggest of my wishlist. Given the time it takes for Gnutella searches to return (10-30 secs on average), I like to type in a few key words and let it go. All searches are presented in their seperate tabs.
download a file from ONE of MANY locations. This is cool aswell. So that you don't have to manually deal with rejected downloads.
Nice category support. You can connect to different set of hosts by
connection speed (t1, dsl, 56k...)
content ( music, adult, images...)
region (us, europe...)
Maintains connections very nicely (not taxing the system)
has all other nitfy features (resume downloads, multiple shares...etc)
written in Java, for me that is a PLUS.
Finally a Gnutella client that had most of my wishlists. It appears almost bug free too. When I run it for 3-4 days in a row, it might hang. IT also creates too many threads when left running for a long time. But the threads are idle.
I quit using Napster long back. I run LimeWire all the time on my computer and it accounts for a major chunk of traffic on my DSL.
Already, Broadband2Wireless has started building networks in other cities, and within the year should offer service in Miami, Atlanta, Los Angeles, and New York
I wonder why San Francisco area (aka Bay area or Silicon Valley) is not on the list. This is not the first thing, several things come to bay area late. DSL, cable...etc.
Does any one know why 'mecca if hightech' is the last to adopt new stuff?
the point here is mozilla made a big hype of opensourcing main browser code and is way behind schedule. Now this is viewed as a 'open source failure' by cluless journalists.
What is cool about konquerer is, it silently creeped into the scene, and now it is a file manager / camera manager / browser / <whatever> of choice. Just like google. When it started no one knew about google unless they are a geek/engineer. Now every joe is a google fan. That is what I like about Konq. You don't make PRs and lag behind schedule. you make something available and then brag about it.
Other point is, yes Konq had KDE to run on top of, where Mozilla folks have to create 'yet another crossplatform appdev platform' (or what ever you want to call it). It surely is ambitious. But they should have had a browser out (moz 1.0) and converted into that mozilla-os platform in ver 2.0.
your point of what is an alternative for IE on windows stands true.
I have contributed bug-reports (some dups, some genuine) and I want the mozilla spirit to stay alive. But right now, I am *VERY HAPPY* with Konq.
Yeah, yeah, I know. I am one of those people who have a Bp6 (2xcel 500). At this point I am running at the default speed. I would however like to try OCing some time in the future.
Can anyone suggest a good CPU fan
- that doesn't cost a fortune
- fits on bp6
- works right out of box, doesn't need any milling or modifications
My uptime used to be in weeks. But now in hours, as I have to shutdown the machine when I leave home. why? b/c of the rolling blackouts!! Yes, I do have a UPS, but it cannot withstand 1-2 hour rolling blackouts! And yes I do have reiserFS but I am not willing to let my machine hard-reboot everyday willingly:-)
(BTW, I converted all my filesystems to Reiser except ROOT. Is there any way to convert my / to reiser while _keeping_ all data.)
Can you believe in Silicon Valley, we don't have reliable power?:-)
Heck there are lot of numbers and if it makes clear that a version is different from the previous one, use it..
I work for a company that is very tight on version numbers. So we end up releasing stuff like
XX 1.1.0.2
XX 1.1.1.1
XX 1.3.1.4
Personally I think you shouldn't go beyond 3 number versioning.
XX 1.0.0 (initial release)
XX 1.0.x (for bug fixes)
XX 1.x for minor enhancement
XX 2.0.0 (with major enhancements, change of operating environment aka needs different version of third party software..etc)
Now to Manadrake, I think going from 7.2 to 8.0 is reasonable as it says these are vastly different. Besides I would rather call it 7.x & 8.x rather than
7.1
7.2
7.3.1
blah
Not in US, but I did my bachelors in Melbourne University Australia. I hated EE stuff, b/c of memorize this formulae junk! I was a CE major. our CE is about 30 % hardware & 70% software. The balance exactly I liked! So I do know how a timer circuit works and also know how red-black trees work (well, for the later one, I need to dust up my sedgwick book:-).
But I found straight EE very boring. May be it is me. I am so into programming / admin stuff, I loved my CE. Also made some great geek friends in the CS dept
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KDE 2.1 Is Out
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Ditto there, I have given up on Mozilla and use Konqueror *MOST* of the time. Only time I have to fire up netscape is to view some sites that use 'netscape specific' frames, and the others that keep insisting I use IE/netscape! (My bank included..sheesh!)
Only thing I need in Konq, is a frontPage like WYSIWYG HTML editor and I am all set!
Dunno if you looked at KDE. But it is pretty decent. If you are 'inside' KDE environment, everything works seemingly (cut'n paste / drag 'n drop -- b/w applications too). Try KDE2, you won't be dissappointed. their window manager still sucks though ( I am a WIndowmaker person)
When X was 'invented' there is no concept of 'inter-application communication' through GUI (how ever other means as pipes / sockets / shared mem existed on Unix for a long time). Then these things were 'glued on'.
One advantage windows had however, is they came out at a time these GUI things were around (MAcs) and they set the standard (ie this is how you cut text / this is how you drag stuff). So no wonder every win application behaves the same way.
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Amen buddy.
KDE quietly builds products instead of throwing out press releases. Good quality / good looking / seamlesly working products. They don't engage in flame / feature / license wars (or I haven't noticed!).
Example, look at Konqueror (kde 2.1.1). In the browsing department it wins hands down. I stopped using Mozilla/netscape long back when I found Konq. When I first saw it, I wondered why there was not much hype about this fabulous product. Instead there was a humble press release.
KDE believes in mind share by superior products. Not by 'ethics' or 'religion' associated with CDEs (qt/gtk, c/c++). I certainly believe they have made the right choices so far.
I am in San Francisco bay area. I own a Qualcomm (those cheap / slim phones). Totally awesome! I got the phone for less than $40 from circuit city. It has better reception than those $299 (with one year contract) starTacs!!
Sprint's coverage isn't as ubiquitiuos (Sp) as oxygen. But it works for me.
I also like the no contract service (month to month). I guess only sprint bets its business on service rather than locking people in for ONE year minimum. You hear me AT&T?
back to lunch.
LinuxLover
Even Microsoft? Oh.....My......God.....! :-)
then you obviously haven't looked further than the 'k' menu and window decorations. KDE has Window stuff and _lot_ more.
Yep, tried
sales@..
sales_boston@...
both bounce back! how? DO you think their mail servers are overloaded?
And do fellow geeks think, this sort of 'attack' or attention works? I for one believe in voting with my dollar. If I don't like a company policy, I write them and tell why they won't be getting my money. Even though I get to do this very few times, it works surprisingly well.
Is there any other proven method to get companies attention on matters like this?
LInuxLover
I hate when people release documents/press releases on web with proprietary (Sp?) format. It is NASA for crying out loud, even MS does their PRs in HTML.
I sent back any word resumes I receive and ask them to send me a txt/HTML format. Most realize there are people out there who don't have the latest word 2000, and will send a text version along with it next time. But some wheenies complain "but you will loose all the format". I tossed this guy's resume and replied to him, that I am looking to hire a programmer based on experience, not a secretary who can format docs.
We should stick to open standards, atleast when they are available for free and widely in use.
LinuxLover
I am totally with you. When I started looking for broadband a year ago, the choices were very few. All the cable modems are available in all other parts of country, but not SV.
I have At&T digital cable in Daly City. But AT&T still doesn't have internet over cable here. Mind you, population density in Daly CIty is high so that is not an issue.
two things that turns me off about SV
- high living cost
- lack of 'decent' broadband access.
Kind of ironic, we live in the 'hub' of internet, and our home access sucks that badly.
I guess it is to do with the infrastructure. Most of the work here in California (and US) were done after WWII (using military personal just lying around after war). So it is pretty old, and can not support anything more than plain old voice. ON the contrary, 'new cities' use more advanced media for phone/cable lines and they can sustain the growth. Not to mention the competition and clue-lessness of major players (pacbell, AT&T) is not helping either...
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LinuxLover
All I see here is discussions about 'line of sight' and 'tallest tower' & 'sprint cell phone'.
can I see some comments about the 'actual internet experience' please?
I know this is offered in BayArea (I have recieved a flyer from Sprint). how is the service around San Francisco city area? I have DSL with covad. Is it worth a move. I specially liked the 'no contract' clause (it is month to month)
LinuxLover
that should be
# include <math.h>
we don't want no C++ OOPs here, just plain old C ma'm
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Accidental empires - By Robert X Crignley. Funny & interesting read. Talks a lot about how w IBM lost & Microsoft rised.
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Show Stopper - talks about the tale behind creating NT.
Also show them the videoI will second that. I had nothing but pleasant experience with Covad. Their install people were knowledgable, and knew what they were doing. I am familiar with the horror stories with Pac bell (bay area).
I get a static IP, un interrupted service, and a curtesy mail when they perform repairs on lines/routers.
But recently there were also in trouble, as their ISPs aren't paying the bills.
Let the market decide who survives...
LinuxLover
Finally a Gnutella client that had most of my wishlists. It appears almost bug free too. When I run it for 3-4 days in a row, it might hang. IT also creates too many threads when left running for a long time. But the threads are idle.
I quit using Napster long back. I run LimeWire all the time on my computer and it accounts for a major chunk of traffic on my DSL.
If you haven't you should give this a try.
any one else can recommend anything similar??
LinuxLover
how did you fix the 'configure saying QT > 2.2.3 is not found' thingy?
I wonder why San Francisco area (aka Bay area or Silicon Valley) is not on the list. This is not the first thing, several things come to bay area late. DSL, cable...etc.
Does any one know why 'mecca if hightech' is the last to adopt new stuff?
LinuxLover
The fans look very big! Did you have any trouble fittinng them on BP6?
with the stock cpu fan that came with mobo my temeratures are
idle : cpu ~35'c , system ~40'c
busy : cpu ~55'c , system ~58'c
So do I need a fan, or these are okay?
thanks in advance
LL
the point here is mozilla made a big hype of opensourcing main browser code and is way behind schedule. Now this is viewed as a 'open source failure' by cluless journalists.
What is cool about konquerer is, it silently creeped into the scene, and now it is a file manager / camera manager / browser / <whatever> of choice. Just like google. When it started no one knew about google unless they are a geek/engineer. Now every joe is a google fan. That is what I like about Konq. You don't make PRs and lag behind schedule. you make something available and then brag about it.
Other point is, yes Konq had KDE to run on top of, where Mozilla folks have to create 'yet another crossplatform appdev platform' (or what ever you want to call it). It surely is ambitious. But they should have had a browser out (moz 1.0) and converted into that mozilla-os platform in ver 2.0.
your point of what is an alternative for IE on windows stands true.
I have contributed bug-reports (some dups, some genuine) and I want the mozilla spirit to stay alive. But right now, I am *VERY HAPPY* with Konq.
Yeah, yeah, I know. I am one of those people who have a Bp6 (2xcel 500). At this point I am running at the default speed. I would however like to try OCing some time in the future.
Can anyone suggest a good CPU fan
- that doesn't cost a fortune
- fits on bp6
- works right out of box, doesn't need any milling or modifications
I have been bp6.com and nothing much there.
linuxlover
My uptime used to be in weeks. But now in hours, as I have to shutdown the machine when I leave home. why? b/c of the rolling blackouts!! Yes, I do have a UPS, but it cannot withstand 1-2 hour rolling blackouts! And yes I do have reiserFS but I am not willing to let my machine hard-reboot everyday willingly :-)
:-)
(BTW, I converted all my filesystems to Reiser except ROOT. Is there any way to convert my / to reiser while _keeping_ all data.)
Can you believe in Silicon Valley, we don't have reliable power?
LinuxLover
why should we?
..etc)
Heck there are lot of numbers and if it makes clear that a version is different from the previous one, use it..
I work for a company that is very tight on version numbers. So we end up releasing stuff like
XX 1.1.0.2
XX 1.1.1.1
XX 1.3.1.4
Personally I think you shouldn't go beyond 3 number versioning.
XX 1.0.0 (initial release)
XX 1.0.x (for bug fixes)
XX 1.x for minor enhancement
XX 2.0.0 (with major enhancements, change of operating environment aka needs different version of third party software
Now to Manadrake, I think going from 7.2 to 8.0 is reasonable as it says these are vastly different. Besides I would rather call it 7.x & 8.x rather than
7.1
7.2
7.3.1
blah
Not in US, but I did my bachelors in Melbourne University Australia. I hated EE stuff, b/c of memorize this formulae junk! I was a CE major. our CE is about 30 % hardware & 70% software. The balance exactly I liked! So I do know how a timer circuit works and also know how red-black trees work (well, for the later one, I need to dust up my sedgwick book :-).
But I found straight EE very boring. May be it is me. I am so into programming / admin stuff, I loved my CE. Also made some great geek friends in the CS dept
Ditto there, I have given up on Mozilla and use Konqueror *MOST* of the time. Only time I have to fire up netscape is to view some sites that use 'netscape specific' frames, and the others that keep insisting I use IE/netscape! (My bank included..sheesh!)
Only thing I need in Konq, is a frontPage like WYSIWYG HTML editor and I am all set!
Dunno if you looked at KDE. But it is pretty decent. If you are 'inside' KDE environment, everything works seemingly (cut'n paste / drag 'n drop -- b/w applications too). Try KDE2, you won't be dissappointed. their window manager still sucks though ( I am a WIndowmaker person)
When X was 'invented' there is no concept of 'inter-application communication' through GUI (how ever other means as pipes / sockets / shared mem existed on Unix for a long time). Then these things were 'glued on'.
One advantage windows had however, is they came out at a time these GUI things were around (MAcs) and they set the standard (ie this is how you cut text / this is how you drag stuff). So no wonder every win application behaves the same way.
When I enter the webpage, I want a modal dialog window to popup and say
"If this is a life threatening emergency, get off the web and dial 911"
:-)
4 TIMES more expensive than a doctor? What are you a DRUG DEALER? :-)
Care to explain?