I have the code mirrored on my website at http://www.devzero.org/freecss.html. Feel free to download it and post it somewhere else. Email me at the address I mention, and I will link to your mirror.
If someone will kindly post a URL to the CSS source (which I foolishly failed to grab when this all started going down), I will publicly mirror it on a decently fast connection, and see how long it takes the lawyers to get on my tail.
If you want to email me privately rather than post here, send mail to fuckthelawyers@devzero.org.
This is what I posted in response to this story on Linux TOday:
Funny. I've been hacking around with an OpenBSD box for the past few days, and now two stories about it appear on Linux Today.
Anyway, my install experience was slightly different from the one recounted here. Yes, the disk partitioning tool is horrid, but it's not much different from early Linux fdisk. I had to start over a couple times until I got it right, but I could do it again easily now. The documentation was well written and helpful, too, something that I have found is the general case with OBSD.
Once past that stage, and a problem I had with a bad hard drive, things went very smoothly. I had made an iso image myself, but I forgot to add the -r flag to cdrecord, so the file names got truncated. I ended up simply copying the CD to my Linux desktop box and serving the images back to the install, but it still worked fine. No extra reboots, just some time and a nicely set up system.
Interestingly, the thing that most impressed me, aside from the thorogh documentation, is that which the author had bad trouble with: network setup. I had a cheap ne2k ISA plug-and-pray clone in this box which is hell to get working with Linux. OpenBSD detected, configured, and activated it automagically, and the configuration persisted, and worked as soon as I booted my new system.
And, did I mention, the documentation is very nice?
I more or less agree with the summary here: I wouldn't recommend it for a desktop, but for a server system, so far, I would give a very strong recommendation.
Just a suggestion for anyone in need of a new naming convetion (albeit an inherently limited set):
I've decided to start naming machines in devzero.org after the seven deadly sins... so far I have sloth (my primary work box), envy (my machine at home which I'm always convinced is never quite up to the standards of my one at work), and pride (which is just a cname for www). I'm not sure who is going to be lust yet...
I plan on putting OBSD on an old box to use as a new firewall for my home network. I think it's going to be wrath.
Let's start out with http://www.faqs.org/faqs/alt-usage-english-faq/, search for 'company are'.
There. A single cite. Happy now?
But I will go on, just to prove the point.
http://www.hiway.co.uk/~ei/sect4.html.
B: When the individual members of the collective group are important, the verb is plural:
e.g. The police are protecting the town.
Or there is http://webster.commnet.edu/HP/pages/darling/gramma r/plurals.htm#collective_nouns
There are, further, so called collective nouns, which are singular when we think of them as groups and plural when we think of the individuals acting within the whole (which happens sometimes, but not often).
I have others. That's three times as many as you asked for. Need I go on?
"Team" is a singluar noun -- but it is a singular noun representing a group composed of many individuals. Depending on the context, and your meaning, you could say "the team has" or "the team have". The former has more of an emphasis on the team as a whole, and, in this case, might be appropriate. The latter emphasises the individuality of the members of the group represented by the noun: "The team have been fighting about dinguses for months".
I am not a language lawyer. Just paid attention in my grammar courses.
"It's no big secret that Windows NT isn't an easy operating system to set up and configure (although it's miles ahead ofLinux, OS/2, or even BeOS)."
Folks, don't just get caught up in the fuddish side of this. The mere fact that they even *made* this statement is incredibly meaningful. It means they're scared -- very scared. We have gone from blissfully ignoring the enemy, to launching tentative FUD attacks. This kind of thing, with just the casual, off the cuff, official-stamp-of-truth nature of it, is intended to do one thing: get into peoples minds and become accepted as fact.
This wasn't even an article about Linux... yet they included a jab. The war has just cranked up a notch.
Victory is approaching, but it will not be an easy fight.
Potato and Slink are codenames for various verions of Debian (just like Hurricane and such from Red Hat).
Slink is the current stable release. Potato is the development release (which should be freezing rsn).
You can use any kernel you want, really. Slink is built around the 2.0 series, but you can upgrade. Potato has 2.2 at the core. There are no changes to the standard kernel -- but the system does come with a very cool package for making a new kernel and injecting it into the dpkg system.
No, you're not locked into Debian's package system -- rpm comes standard(?), too. But trust me: once you've used dpkg/apt you won't want to go back.
I am a card-carrying international arms trafficker, and have been for some time. Check out the ITAR Civil Disobedience page at http://online.offshore.com.ai/arms-trafficker/ and discover how easy it is for you, too, to become a felon!
You can even have a nifty letter sent to the president on your behalf, if you want to make your voice even louder.
And always remember... writing a real letter to your congresscritters never hurts matters. They're worth more than email.
I'm humber 6293 on the list at http://online.offshore.com.ai/arms-trafficker/know n-traffickers, btw.
OK. I feel odd doing this, as I'm usually the one who looks at the folks who protest about folks getting "carried away" with anti-government issues and say "you don't get it", but in this case, what's the big deal?
Unlike, say, DARE, which does nothing but propagate an already unbalanced, defective, and freedom-restricting profit racket set up by the gov't, this issue actually makes some kind of sense.
Drop the hacker/cracker nonsense, first off. I will use cracker in this for clarity, that is all.
Most of us, I think, despise crackers (barring the AC k1dd1es). I, personally, would welcome a program in which someone told kids "Hey, this is bad, you don't want to be like this", if the "this" in that sentence was a little punk hax0r d00d. Again, unlike the War on Some Drugs, the War on Crackers is legitimate... as LONG as it stops at "don't do this", and doesn't branch into further persecution which *is* unwarranted.
I am usually very radically anti-government on issues such as this, but in this case, as long as it stays at "kids, this is bad, don't so this", big deal. I'd rather they spent the tax dollars they rob from me on that than on some pork barrel project sponsered by Senator Clitus for his little backwards hometown.
1) What has this to do with anything? My point was on outlawing vs. partial restriction. You do not address it.
2) You can use a substance without using it to "hide" from your problems. You fail to take that into effect. The AMA themselves said, had it been known in the 20s what the DuPont family was pushing as "marijuana" was actually "cannabis", they would not have recommended outlawing it. Read The Emporer Wears Green Clothes [iirc, that's the proper title]. As for your oblique implication that I use illicit drugs, you're wrong. I haven't in some time. And applying to the argument that "if I think illegal drugs are good, I may be using them too much" is a personal attack and has nothing to do with logic.
3) Again... so? You cite my inability to "see" whatever "truth" you support, without making any real points. I maintain that keeping drugs illegal causes more harm than good, and keeps citizens less able to act for themselves. Again, you can have use without dependency.
You do not address any of the points I raised, and resort to personal attacks, non sequitors, and misleading arguments. One can only assume from this that you have no further logical footing on which to continue this debate.
I consider any further discussion on the matter frivolous and unworthy of a reply until any valid contention is raised.
Yes, there are "restrictions" on tobacco, booze, etc. But by your arguments, on the points mentioned in this item alone, they should be OUTLAWED, not "restricted".
Re argument 2:
How can you state that no drug dealer is benefitting society? If I do something that makes me happy, it generally makes me more productive. If I can go down the street, and buy a bag of marijuana, and smoke it, and it makes me able to go to work with a good attitude the next day, that's a benefit. And don't give me "harm outweighing the good" unless you have numbers on it.
Furthermore, something not benefitting "society" is not a reason to outlaw it. I used to be a complete M:tG addict -- to the point where I was skipping work to play it (student job). This is obviously harmful, but we didn't make WotC criminals over it, did we? There needs to be a more compelling reason. You have yet to provide a valid one.
Re argument 3:
You're using science fiction novels to validate a real-world argument? For what it matters, I don't believe in any sort of sales tax [oy vey, let's not start another debate here!], but the point still remains, as you failed to address any other side of the issue. What's the figure? It costs 30-50 thousand dollars to keep an inmate in prison for a year? In 1996, there were 150000 people in state and federal prisons whose worst crimes were drug offenses. This is between 4 and 8 billion dollars a year! Do you think this is in any way less than the "harm" these people would have done in society, especially if they were participating in a free market?
"Doctors with short memory loss, operators of heavy machinery with impaired judgement, accountants that are addicted to getting high more than a value of not stealing, and bosses with really cranky shifting attitudes. "
And alcohol produces broken families, dangerous accidents, reduced income, poor work performance and bad breath. Smoking causes lung cancer second hand. Excessive reading of Slashdot reduces your work productivity. Yet we still allow, in one degree or another, the consumption of alcohol, tobacco, and Slashdot. Why? Because we are, in theory, a free soceity.
It is *your responsibility* when you read too much Slashdot and fail to contribute to your part of the GNP, not CmdrTaco's. Should we make him a criminal for reducing the national productivity?
Drug laws are silly.
You fail to consider the economic benefit of sales tax on drug products, the reduced burden of enforcement of ever more ridiculous rules designed to solve a non-problem, the state support of millions of "drug criminals" in prison, the release back onto street of perps of *real* crimes because some dope peddler is taking up a prison bed.
I shouldn't even respond to this ugly troll, but I can't resist:
1) "By advocating protecting people from their own stupidity, you are advocating a welfare state."
2) "Drug dealers and other criminals"
What is the primary nature of many drug laws? To protect people from their own stupidity! Same with seat belt laws, helmet laws, and all the other pointless, freedom-restricting cruft we have in the legal system.
Try to think a little more before you spew next time -- if you consider drug dealers criminals, you are advocating a welfare state.
This is Bastille Linux
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This is what the bastille Linux distribution has in mind -- an Linux distro which a sysadmin can give out to his users to install, without worrying about a bunch of security updates, locking down daemons, and all the riff we all love to hate.
I have gone through an ebay addiction myself, although not hardly as extreme as the one described in this article. I have since recovered, and manage to maintain a more normal approach to things, using auction services when necessary, but not obsessively slavering over them.
I have put a little thought into just what makes these creations so addictive. I think alot of it has to do with a more general class of websites -- those which are vaguely interactive. Just look at how many of us spend our time reading and replying to stuff on Slashdot. Now amplify it to an arena in which the whole purpose is interaction, and you get the drawing force that much more strengthening.
Next is the fact that ebay is open 24 hours a day, and your auctions can change any time during that period -- the compulsion is very strong to just check it when you wake up, then when you get home in the evening. But then you're sitting at work, and you wonder if you've won the auction on that widget and you check... then 10 minutes later wonder once more what the current bid is. Put millions of people into an almost instantly responsive environment, and you can easily buld an obsession.
Furthermore, as has been mentioned previously, there is the sheer quantity of *junk*, especially collectables, on these places. Collecting things is an age-old hobby -- Og the Cave Man probably collected interesting rocks he found sitting outside the opening to his cave.
Finally, there is the financial aspect. It is possible to get rick quick... and to pay much more than you could ever want for something. This, especially, combined with the previous collectables factor, I think lead to a very strong motivation to keep coming back, and stay on top of an environment which changes every minute of every day.
Combine all of this with an addictive personality, which easily obsesses on the smallest thing, and you have a recipe for a broken home.
Argh. Will someone please take this fucking idiot out of the gene pool? It's enough he's got to spread his worthless comments all over the W. Stevens death article, now he's sucking our bandwidth elsewhere. Fuck off and die, you moron.
Forgive me for ranting... it's jerks like this who make me question the viability of the human race.
And I'm sure I'll get a comment calling me a Jizzwhacker or somesuch for this. Shut up. Just shut up, Junior, until you get a clue.
It might help, in addition to any other methods, to turn on an option in the user preferences to hide all AC posts, regardless of rating, or below a certain threshold (user-definable, of course). I personally find very little use for most AC posts, and most ACs for that matter, but I like to have the option of reading them anyway... but no reason someone else should be forced to spend their bandwidth downloading them.
Indeed... I was on CIS with my 300 buad acoustic coupling modem hooked into my TI 99/4A, and man was it just ever so amazing. There was something so thrilling about reading the text as it scrolled onto the screen, which you could just about do at 300bd. Sigh. Those were the days.
Typical response from someone who refuses to see the recurring pattern of a government out of control and rapidly falling apart. Open your eyes -- it's not all a paranoid dream. It's real, and the comfy world they've built for you is an illusion. What is the Matrix?
Slashdot Mirror
I've got it mirrored. See my comment elsewhere in this thead.
I have the code mirrored on my website at http://www.devzero.org/freecss.html. Feel free to download it and post it somewhere else. Email me at the address I mention, and I will link to your mirror.
If someone will kindly post a URL to the CSS source (which I foolishly failed to grab when this all started going down), I will publicly mirror it on a decently fast connection, and see how long it takes the lawyers to get on my tail.
If you want to email me privately rather than post here, send mail to fuckthelawyers@devzero.org.
Funny. I've been hacking around with an OpenBSD box for the past few days, and now two stories about it appear on Linux Today.
Anyway, my install experience was slightly different from the one recounted here. Yes, the disk partitioning tool is horrid, but it's not much different from early Linux fdisk. I had to start over a couple times until I got it right, but I could do it again easily now. The documentation was well written and helpful, too, something that I have found is the general case with OBSD.
Once past that stage, and a problem I had with a bad hard drive, things went very smoothly. I had made an iso image myself, but I forgot to add the -r flag to cdrecord, so the file names got truncated. I ended up simply copying the CD to my Linux desktop box and serving the images back to the install, but it still worked fine. No extra reboots, just some time and a nicely set up system.
Interestingly, the thing that most impressed me, aside from the thorogh documentation, is that which the author had bad trouble with: network setup. I had a cheap ne2k ISA plug-and-pray clone in this box which is hell to get working with Linux. OpenBSD detected, configured, and activated it automagically, and the configuration persisted, and worked as soon as I booted my new system.
And, did I mention, the documentation is very nice?
I more or less agree with the summary here: I wouldn't recommend it for a desktop, but for a server system, so far, I would give a very strong recommendation.
Just a suggestion for anyone in need of a new naming convetion (albeit an inherently limited set):
I've decided to start naming machines in devzero.org after the seven deadly sins... so far I have sloth (my primary work box), envy (my machine at home which I'm always convinced is never quite up to the standards of my one at work), and pride (which is just a cname for www). I'm not sure who is going to be lust yet...
I plan on putting OBSD on an old box to use as a new firewall for my home network. I think it's going to be wrath.
Gladly.
a r/plurals.htm#collective_nouns
Let's start out with http://www.faqs.org/faqs/alt-usage-english-faq/, search for 'company are'.
There. A single cite. Happy now?
But I will go on, just to prove the point.
http://www.hiway.co.uk/~ei/sect4.html.
B: When the individual members of the collective group are important, the verb is plural:
e.g. The police are protecting the town.
Or there is http://webster.commnet.edu/HP/pages/darling/gramm
There are, further, so called collective nouns, which are singular when we think of them as groups and plural when we think of the individuals acting within the whole (which happens sometimes, but not often).
I have others. That's three times as many as you asked for. Need I go on?
Actually, you're both right and wrong here.
"Team" is a singluar noun -- but it is a singular noun representing a group composed of many individuals. Depending on the context, and your meaning, you could say "the team has" or "the team have". The former has more of an emphasis on the team as a whole, and, in this case, might be appropriate. The latter emphasises the individuality of the members of the group represented by the noun: "The team have been fighting about dinguses for months".
I am not a language lawyer. Just paid attention in my grammar courses.
"It's no big secret that Windows NT isn't an easy operating system to set up and configure (although it's miles ahead ofLinux, OS/2, or even BeOS)."
Folks, don't just get caught up in the fuddish side of this. The mere fact that they even *made* this statement is incredibly meaningful. It means they're scared -- very scared. We have gone from blissfully ignoring the enemy, to launching tentative FUD attacks. This kind of thing, with just the casual, off the cuff, official-stamp-of-truth nature of it, is intended to do one thing: get into peoples minds and become accepted as fact.
This wasn't even an article about Linux... yet they included a jab. The war has just cranked up a notch.
Victory is approaching, but it will not be an easy fight.
Potato and Slink are codenames for various verions of Debian (just like Hurricane and such from Red Hat).
Slink is the current stable release. Potato is the development release (which should be freezing rsn).
You can use any kernel you want, really. Slink is built around the 2.0 series, but you can upgrade. Potato has 2.2 at the core. There are no changes to the standard kernel -- but the system does come with a very cool package for making a new kernel and injecting it into the dpkg system.
No, you're not locked into Debian's package system -- rpm comes standard(?), too. But trust me: once you've used dpkg/apt you won't want to go back.
I am a card-carrying international arms trafficker, and have been for some time. Check out the ITAR Civil Disobedience page at http://online.offshore.com.ai/arms-trafficker/ and discover how easy it is for you, too, to become a felon!
w n-traffickers, btw.
You can even have a nifty letter sent to the president on your behalf, if you want to make your voice even louder.
And always remember... writing a real letter to your congresscritters never hurts matters. They're worth more than email.
I'm humber 6293 on the list at http://online.offshore.com.ai/arms-trafficker/kno
OK. I feel odd doing this, as I'm usually the one who looks at the folks who protest about folks getting "carried away" with anti-government issues and say "you don't get it", but in this case, what's the big deal?
Unlike, say, DARE, which does nothing but propagate an already unbalanced, defective, and freedom-restricting profit racket set up by the gov't, this issue actually makes some kind of sense.
Drop the hacker/cracker nonsense, first off. I will use cracker in this for clarity, that is all.
Most of us, I think, despise crackers (barring the AC k1dd1es). I, personally, would welcome a program in which someone told kids "Hey, this is bad, you don't want to be like this", if the "this" in that sentence was a little punk hax0r d00d. Again, unlike the War on Some Drugs, the War on Crackers is legitimate... as LONG as it stops at "don't do this", and doesn't branch into further persecution which *is* unwarranted.
I am usually very radically anti-government on issues such as this, but in this case, as long as it stays at "kids, this is bad, don't so this", big deal. I'd rather they spent the tax dollars they rob from me on that than on some pork barrel project sponsered by Senator Clitus for his little backwards hometown.
Debian prompts you to create a regular user account when you install.
1) What has this to do with anything? My point was on outlawing vs. partial restriction. You do not address it.
2) You can use a substance without using it to "hide" from your problems. You fail to take that into effect. The AMA themselves said, had it been known in the 20s what the DuPont family was pushing as "marijuana" was actually "cannabis", they would not have recommended outlawing it. Read The Emporer Wears Green Clothes [iirc, that's the proper title]. As for your oblique implication that I use illicit drugs, you're wrong. I haven't in some time. And applying to the argument that "if I think illegal drugs are good, I may be using them too much" is a personal attack and has nothing to do with logic.
3) Again... so? You cite my inability to "see" whatever "truth" you support, without making any real points. I maintain that keeping drugs illegal causes more harm than good, and keeps citizens less able to act for themselves. Again, you can have use without dependency.
You do not address any of the points I raised, and resort to personal attacks, non sequitors, and misleading arguments. One can only assume from this that you have no further logical footing on which to continue this debate.
I consider any further discussion on the matter frivolous and unworthy of a reply until any valid contention is raised.
Re argument 1:
Yes, there are "restrictions" on tobacco, booze, etc. But by your arguments, on the points mentioned in this item alone, they should be OUTLAWED, not "restricted".
Re argument 2:
How can you state that no drug dealer is benefitting society? If I do something that makes me happy, it generally makes me more productive. If I can go down the street, and buy a bag of marijuana, and smoke it, and it makes me able to go to work with a good attitude the next day, that's a benefit. And don't give me "harm outweighing the good" unless you have numbers on it.
Furthermore, something not benefitting "society" is not a reason to outlaw it. I used to be a complete M:tG addict -- to the point where I was skipping work to play it (student job). This is obviously harmful, but we didn't make WotC criminals over it, did we? There needs to be a more compelling reason. You have yet to provide a valid one.
Re argument 3:
You're using science fiction novels to validate a real-world argument? For what it matters, I don't believe in any sort of sales tax [oy vey, let's not start another debate here!], but the point still remains, as you failed to address any other side of the issue. What's the figure? It costs 30-50 thousand dollars to keep an inmate in prison for a year? In 1996, there were 150000 people in state and federal prisons whose worst crimes were drug offenses. This is between 4 and 8 billion dollars a year! Do you think this is in any way less than the "harm" these people would have done in society, especially if they were participating in a free market?
It doesn't add up.
"Doctors with short memory loss, operators of heavy machinery with impaired judgement, accountants that are addicted to getting high more than a value of not stealing, and bosses with really cranky shifting attitudes. "
And alcohol produces broken families, dangerous accidents, reduced income, poor work performance and bad breath. Smoking causes lung cancer second hand. Excessive reading of Slashdot reduces your work productivity. Yet we still allow, in one degree or another, the consumption of alcohol, tobacco, and Slashdot. Why? Because we are, in theory, a free soceity.
It is *your responsibility* when you read too much Slashdot and fail to contribute to your part of the GNP, not CmdrTaco's. Should we make him a criminal for reducing the national productivity?
Drug laws are silly.
You fail to consider the economic benefit of sales tax on drug products, the reduced burden of enforcement of ever more ridiculous rules designed to solve a non-problem, the state support of millions of "drug criminals" in prison, the release back onto street of perps of *real* crimes because some dope peddler is taking up a prison bed.
Tag. Your turn.
I shouldn't even respond to this ugly troll, but I can't resist:
1) "By advocating protecting people from their own stupidity, you are advocating a welfare state."
2) "Drug dealers and other criminals"
What is the primary nature of many drug laws? To protect people from their own stupidity! Same with seat belt laws, helmet laws, and all the other pointless, freedom-restricting cruft we have in the legal system.
Try to think a little more before you spew next time -- if you consider drug dealers criminals, you are advocating a welfare state.
This is what the bastille Linux distribution has in mind -- an Linux distro which a sysadmin can give out to his users to install, without worrying about a bunch of security updates, locking down daemons, and all the riff we all love to hate.
http://www.bastille-linux.org/
I have gone through an ebay addiction myself, although not hardly as extreme as the one described in this article. I have since recovered, and manage to maintain a more normal approach to things, using auction services when necessary, but not obsessively slavering over them.
I have put a little thought into just what makes these creations so addictive. I think alot of it has to do with a more general class of websites -- those which are vaguely interactive. Just look at how many of us spend our time reading and replying to stuff on Slashdot. Now amplify it to an arena in which the whole purpose is interaction, and you get the drawing force that much more strengthening.
Next is the fact that ebay is open 24 hours a day, and your auctions can change any time during that period -- the compulsion is very strong to just check it when you wake up, then when you get home in the evening. But then you're sitting at work, and you wonder if you've won the auction on that widget and you check... then 10 minutes later wonder once more what the current bid is. Put millions of people into an almost instantly responsive environment, and you can easily buld an obsession.
Furthermore, as has been mentioned previously, there is the sheer quantity of *junk*, especially collectables, on these places. Collecting things is an age-old hobby -- Og the Cave Man probably collected interesting rocks he found sitting outside the opening to his cave.
Finally, there is the financial aspect. It is possible to get rick quick... and to pay much more than you could ever want for something. This, especially, combined with the previous collectables factor, I think lead to a very strong motivation to keep coming back, and stay on top of an environment which changes every minute of every day.
Combine all of this with an addictive personality, which easily obsesses on the smallest thing, and you have a recipe for a broken home.
Do you mean something like scwm?
(The site happens to be down now btw... foo.)
Argh. Will someone please take this fucking idiot out of the gene pool? It's enough he's got to spread his worthless comments all over the W. Stevens death article, now he's sucking our bandwidth elsewhere. Fuck off and die, you moron.
Forgive me for ranting... it's jerks like this who make me question the viability of the human race.
And I'm sure I'll get a comment calling me a Jizzwhacker or somesuch for this. Shut up. Just shut up, Junior, until you get a clue.
/FLAME
It might help, in addition to any other methods, to turn on an option in the user preferences to hide all AC posts, regardless of rating, or below a certain threshold (user-definable, of course). I personally find very little use for most AC posts, and most ACs for that matter, but I like to have the option of reading them anyway... but no reason someone else should be forced to spend their bandwidth downloading them.
Is that an attempt at humour, or are do you truly not get it? :)
True old-schoolers don't need to spell it "skool".
Indeed... I was on CIS with my 300 buad acoustic coupling modem hooked into my TI 99/4A, and man was it just ever so amazing. There was something so thrilling about reading the text as it scrolled onto the screen, which you could just about do at 300bd. Sigh. Those were the days.
We've come a long way, baby.
Typical response from someone who refuses to see the recurring pattern of a government out of control and rapidly falling apart. Open your eyes -- it's not all a paranoid dream. It's real, and the comfy world they've built for you is an illusion. What is the Matrix?