Informix does not know how to sell. I asked for a price quote three times both on the phone and over the web all three times I was blown off. I guess I am too small to be considered for a price quote.
Postgres has al the features you mentioned and more. If you look into it you will discover that postgres has some rarely used but very powerful features like operator overloding, spacial datatypes, object oriented storage, loadable languages etc. As an aside Interbase also kicks serious ass look into it.
SQL anywhere is nice but thre really is no need to pay for it when comperable databases are free (same goes for SQL server BTW).
Oracle and DB/2 OTOH are still very far ahead in enterprise features like replication, clustering, live backups etc. If you want all of these and don't want to pay for oracle or DB/2 check out frontbase for about 2 grand you get all this and more. The docs are pretty lame but the engine is great.
The SP language is loadable! Right now three languages are supported. PERL, TCL and PGSQL/PL (a oracle like language). I imagine there is a python in the works it just seems logical. The trick is to strip all the "dangerous" keywords.
It's called the Mac OSX look into it. They have set up a very nice system using XML, GUI and the traditional/etc files. There is no reason linux can't use the same system.
Yes before the invention of money all the people starved to death. It wan only through the intervention of capitilistic aliens that all the people were resurrected and given economies so that they would not starve again.
I guess it really depends. First of all I probably would not use apache for a benchmark aolserver is much faster. Also aolserver has persistent database connections (so does php).
There are several issues. 1) Database speed. In a typical web based environment or read mostly-write rarely mysql would stomp on sql server introduce frequent writes and the reverse would occur. For a transactional environment try interbase it's fast and robust and stable as hell. 2) Web server speed. This is a close one but I think aolserver might edge IIS either way it will be a close call. 3) Middleware. This is where it gets very very tricky. If you are writing simple aps pages using ADO to open and close databases AOL server will trounce asp so will php. In order to write scalable ASP pages you will need to utilize MTS heavily. You will need to write COM objects either in C++ or VB and register them with MTS. In other words you will need to double or triple your developement time and run into insane debugging problems. This is where the Aolserver or php environment really shines. Automatic database pooling and very parid developement easily pays for whatever performance hit you may take.
Of course the real solution may be to use JAVA servlets. For complex web sites J2EE is a compelling solution and much easier to program then DCOM.
I believe that apache 2.0 (currently in beta) will be multi threaded. Of course they could have run the test with the open source AOLserver which is multi threaded and extremely fast or even with the built kernel http server which will be available with 2.4. that's the nice thing about Linux lots of choices.
What surprises me is the fact that even though NT relies on threads heavily and IIS is so tightly integrated with the OS it still lags behind.
I guess it depends on wheather you are writing desktop apps or server apps. If you are hiring a b2b programmer then VC++ might be useless and cross platform may be required.
My guess is that the only people who use this are people who still stuck to using VC++ despite MFC, ATL and all that crap. They will finally breathe a sigh of relief and start using this. VB people will never migrate "up". They hate all the changes happening to VB right now. Needless to say no Java programmer will drop java to embrace a new tool especially since it will mean giving up a high paying job.
Besides in six months MS will change their mind again.
nothing from MS lasts a long time. As soon as the ms developers get their minds around this thing MS will pull the rug out from under them again. Over and over they have done this. I am shocked to hear you say that MS is abandoning COM. MS has a very bad track record for doing this kind of stuff. I myself got snookered a couple of times by this kind of crap and finally gave up trying to play catch up to their acronym of the day.
Anybody who works for MS has to make themselves believe that what MS is doing is good, right, ethical, just and necessary. Otherwise they could not sleep soundly and with a clear conciense.
Or maybe they are just evil like the top brass is.
Sorry I guess I find ethics a strong component of being a human being. A person who is unable to discern wrong from right will not be able to make a rational decision about dev tools either.
If you want the stikn of evil on you go ahead and use VB if you want a clean concience use linux and sleep at night. Sooner or later the karma will catch up.
Maybe they are killers and rapists (I would not put it past them). What he really forgot was perjury, evidence tampering, witness tampering, racateering. These people are felons and belong in jail. In a jsut society they would be there. In our society they get to intall a puppet in the white house.
"Come up with another excuse, before all the naive moderators that are trying to prove they aren't biased by moderating your posts up catch on to your game..."
Pro MS posts are always moderated way up. Check the last few topics and see. Slashdot is no longer a Linux or open source forum it is now filled with people who love MS. If you don't believe sort by points.
I have noticed that all the pro MS posts always get moderated up pretty good. Atleast three usually five. Something is going on. I think all the astroturfers are moding each other up.
Huh? I integrated them into my OS well before MS even though to clone the product. I bought magellan and installed it into DOS. Voila I integrated a file manager. You think MS deserves credit for doing what I did 10 years before?
I agree that these criminals should have been prosecuted under criminal law and be put in jail. Having said that though it seems like their stradegy backfired severely. By making an enemy in Bill gates they have forfeited the upcoming election. MS is already throwing around buckets of money at republican candidates as well as conservative PACs and other "stealth" organizations. Bill Gates will be able to install his puppets in the senate, house and the presidency. Dubya has already stated that if he wins the presidency he will drop the suit against MS and you can be sure MS will get him there.
If the president of the united states can be "tried" for perjury then everybody is fair game. I seriously don't think you can hang a perjury charge against Case for saying that (although he might have said other things I don't know).
My comment was that the law should apply to everyone equally Bill Clinton, Bill Gates, Steve Case it should not matter. I heard Bill Gates lie under oath I did not hear any of the Steve Case deposition at all so I can't speak about that.
My question remains. Whose responsibility is it to see that people who lie under oath are prosecuted and what can I do make it happen. Bill gates should not be able escape justice just because he is rich.
Best check on MS is competition. Right now MS owns over 80% of the desktop market, over 70% of the browser market, a huge share (don't know how much) or the server market. They use this dominant position to stifle competition so therefore there are no checks and balances. Even if there was a some sort of a MS watchdog organization they could not prevent MS from using it's desktop monopoly profits to subsidize other products (otherwise known as dumping) or force people to use MSN or whatever. Exactly how do you propose to force MS to comply to standards when they can call the shots on the desktop? They can screw every single standard simply by making sure windows can't talk to it.
The greatest accomplishment of open source software was to prevent a MS monopoly on the server market.
The DOJ may have been incompetent but they won. The MS team was even more incompetent. Maybe the district court will throw this case out. As you stated they are packed with republicans and republicans will never punish MS (or any other corporation for that matter) they know who butters their bread. At this point MS is going to try to delay matters until their puppet G.W Bush becomes president and drops the matter altogether.
As for Bill G. he should be on trial right now for perjury. I saw some of the deposition and to this laymen he seemed to perjur himself multiple times. There is also a very stong case for witness tampering, evidence tampering, obstruction of justice and other felonies not only against Bill G. but several of his vice presidents as well. Too bad the rich in this country are above the law. Bill Clinton had to face the senate and the house and may still face a court of law for perjury but Bill Gates can flaunt his immunity at will.
My question is this. What can I do to make sure Bill Gates is tried for perjury? I presume I can't press charges against him. Who is responsible for seeing that justice is done in this case?
Apparently you are not old enough to remember Lotus Magellan the greatest file browsing tool ever made. To this day nothing even approaches it. Explorer/File-manager/ms-abomination is a poorly executed and inept attempt to clone this product.
If you get curious also look up Xtree and central point filemanagers although they were not as good as magellan they were pretty damned good.
One more thing all this was in the days of DOS so much for your innovation.
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Informix does not know how to sell. I asked for a price quote three times both on the phone and over the web all three times I was blown off. I guess I am too small to be considered for a price quote.
Postgres has al the features you mentioned and more. If you look into it you will discover that postgres has some rarely used but very powerful features like operator overloding, spacial datatypes, object oriented storage, loadable languages etc. As an aside Interbase also kicks serious ass look into it.
SQL anywhere is nice but thre really is no need to pay for it when comperable databases are free (same goes for SQL server BTW).
Oracle and DB/2 OTOH are still very far ahead in enterprise features like replication, clustering, live backups etc. If you want all of these and don't want to pay for oracle or DB/2 check out frontbase for about 2 grand you get all this and more. The docs are pretty lame but the engine is great.
The SP language is loadable! Right now three languages are supported. PERL, TCL and PGSQL/PL (a oracle like language). I imagine there is a python in the works it just seems logical. The trick is to strip all the "dangerous" keywords.
It's called the Mac OSX look into it. They have set up a very nice system using XML, GUI and the traditional /etc files. There is no reason linux can't use the same system.
Yes before the invention of money all the people starved to death. It wan only through the intervention of capitilistic aliens that all the people were resurrected and given economies so that they would not starve again.
I guess it really depends. First of all I probably would not use apache for a benchmark aolserver is much faster. Also aolserver has persistent database connections (so does php).
There are several issues.
1) Database speed. In a typical web based environment or read mostly-write rarely mysql would stomp on sql server introduce frequent writes and the reverse would occur. For a transactional environment try interbase it's fast and robust and stable as hell.
2) Web server speed. This is a close one but I think aolserver might edge IIS either way it will be a close call.
3) Middleware. This is where it gets very very tricky. If you are writing simple aps pages using ADO to open and close databases AOL server will trounce asp so will php. In order to write scalable ASP pages you will need to utilize MTS heavily. You will need to write COM objects either in C++ or VB and register them with MTS. In other words you will need to double or triple your developement time and run into insane debugging problems. This is where the Aolserver or php environment really shines. Automatic database pooling and very parid developement easily pays for whatever performance hit you may take.
Of course the real solution may be to use JAVA servlets. For complex web sites J2EE is a compelling solution and much easier to program then DCOM.
I believe that apache 2.0 (currently in beta) will be multi threaded. Of course they could have run the test with the open source AOLserver which is multi threaded and extremely fast or even with the built kernel http server which will be available with 2.4. that's the nice thing about Linux lots of choices.
What surprises me is the fact that even though NT relies on threads heavily and IIS is so tightly integrated with the OS it still lags behind.
That's a good idea how would you go about doing this?
I guess it depends on wheather you are writing desktop apps or server apps. If you are hiring a b2b programmer then VC++ might be useless and cross platform may be required.
My guess is that the only people who use this are people who still stuck to using VC++ despite MFC, ATL and all that crap. They will finally breathe a sigh of relief and start using this. VB people will never migrate "up". They hate all the changes happening to VB right now. Needless to say no Java programmer will drop java to embrace a new tool especially since it will mean giving up a high paying job.
Besides in six months MS will change their mind again.
nothing from MS lasts a long time. As soon as the ms developers get their minds around this thing MS will pull the rug out from under them again. Over and over they have done this. I am shocked to hear you say that MS is abandoning COM. MS has a very bad track record for doing this kind of stuff.
I myself got snookered a couple of times by this kind of crap and finally gave up trying to play catch up to their acronym of the day.
Anybody who works for MS has to make themselves believe that what MS is doing is good, right, ethical, just and necessary. Otherwise they could not sleep soundly and with a clear conciense.
Or maybe they are just evil like the top brass is.
Sorry I guess I find ethics a strong component of being a human being. A person who is unable to discern wrong from right will not be able to make a rational decision about dev tools either.
If you want the stikn of evil on you go ahead and use VB if you want a clean concience use linux and sleep at night. Sooner or later the karma will catch up.
Well no because you are refering to human beings and MS is not a human being. The bugs reference was about W2K which is also not a human being.
Apparently you need to go to biology classes again.
So let me get this straight now.
I own word97, I get a word2K doc. I open it up in word97 and save as a word97 doc right?
Or were you just being an idiot.
Maybe they are killers and rapists (I would not put it past them). What he really forgot was perjury, evidence tampering, witness tampering, racateering. These people are felons and belong in jail. In a jsut society they would be there. In our society they get to intall a puppet in the white house.
"Didn't you stop and think that the CEO of Adobe might just be trying to plug his own product? "
Well sure but it's still a good idea.
"Come up with another excuse, before all the naive moderators that are trying to prove they aren't biased by moderating your posts up catch on to your game..."
Pro MS posts are always moderated way up. Check the last few topics and see. Slashdot is no longer a Linux or open source forum it is now filled with people who love MS. If you don't believe sort by points.
I have noticed that all the pro MS posts always get moderated up pretty good. Atleast three usually five. Something is going on. I think all the astroturfers are moding each other up.
First rule of debugging.
Debug the code not the comments.
Point being that if you wanted to clone any part of perl you could because you have source. Documentation is nice but wholly unrequired.
Huh? I integrated them into my OS well before MS even though to clone the product. I bought magellan and installed it into DOS. Voila I integrated a file manager. You think MS deserves credit for doing what I did 10 years before?
I agree that these criminals should have been prosecuted under criminal law and be put in jail. Having said that though it seems like their stradegy backfired severely. By making an enemy in Bill gates they have forfeited the upcoming election. MS is already throwing around buckets of money at republican candidates as well as conservative PACs and other "stealth" organizations. Bill Gates will be able to install his puppets in the senate, house and the presidency. Dubya has already stated that if he wins the presidency he will drop the suit against MS and you can be sure MS will get him there.
If the president of the united states can be "tried" for perjury then everybody is fair game. I seriously don't think you can hang a perjury charge against Case for saying that (although he might have said other things I don't know).
My comment was that the law should apply to everyone equally Bill Clinton, Bill Gates, Steve Case it should not matter. I heard Bill Gates lie under oath I did not hear any of the Steve Case deposition at all so I can't speak about that.
My question remains. Whose responsibility is it to see that people who lie under oath are prosecuted and what can I do make it happen. Bill gates should not be able escape justice just because he is rich.
Best check on MS is competition. Right now MS owns over 80% of the desktop market, over 70% of the browser market, a huge share (don't know how much) or the server market. They use this dominant position to stifle competition so therefore there are no checks and balances. Even if there was a some sort of a MS watchdog organization they could not prevent MS from using it's desktop monopoly profits to subsidize other products (otherwise known as dumping) or force people to use MSN or whatever.
Exactly how do you propose to force MS to comply to standards when they can call the shots on the desktop? They can screw every single standard simply by making sure windows can't talk to it.
The greatest accomplishment of open source software was to prevent a MS monopoly on the server market.
The DOJ may have been incompetent but they won. The MS team was even more incompetent.
Maybe the district court will throw this case out. As you stated they are packed with republicans and republicans will never punish MS (or any other corporation for that matter) they know who butters their bread. At this point MS is going to try to delay matters until their puppet G.W Bush becomes president and drops the matter altogether.
As for Bill G. he should be on trial right now for perjury. I saw some of the deposition and to this laymen he seemed to perjur himself multiple times. There is also a very stong case for witness tampering, evidence tampering, obstruction of justice and other felonies not only against Bill G. but several of his vice presidents as well. Too bad the rich in this country are above the law. Bill Clinton had to face the senate and the house and may still face a court of law for perjury but Bill Gates can flaunt his immunity at will.
My question is this. What can I do to make sure Bill Gates is tried for perjury? I presume I can't press charges against him. Who is responsible for seeing that justice is done in this case?
Apparently you are not old enough to remember Lotus Magellan the greatest file browsing tool ever made. To this day nothing even approaches it. Explorer/File-manager/ms-abomination is a poorly executed and inept attempt to clone this product.
If you get curious also look up Xtree and central point filemanagers although they were not as good as magellan they were pretty damned good.
One more thing all this was in the days of DOS so much for your innovation.