You didn't just say the killing innocents is wrong. You said that people who might kill other people should be locked up.
You are considered a troll because in this case the person you were talking about did not kill anybody and was in fact charged with "failing to disperse" and "conspiracy to fail to disperse". It's amazing to me that's even a crime in this country but I guess it is.
"Why, so they can be excluded from even the attempt to compete? "
There are several reasons. One is that wall mart does not build regular stores. They almost always need to have the zoning regulations changed to fit their business models. In this case they want special treatment and the city is under no obligation to give special treatment to this corporation.
Two> The city has to look at the overall welfare of all it's citizens. When a wall mart opens the money that is spend at wallmart get's funneled out of the city. If you spend your money at mom and pop they will eat at the local restaurant or buy their shoes at the neighborhood store or go the local theater. When you spend money at wallmart the money goes to the east coast and your local community never sees it. The fact is that frequently wall marts harm the local economy. they open up a store, the drive local businesses out, the town's economy suffers because all the money is gone, wall mart closes up shop and moves to fresh feeding grounds.
The city has to look at all factors short and long term when deciding to make accomodations for busineses. They don't work for corporations they work for the people. they damn well better stop corporations from "competing" if the result will be collapse of the city, massive unemployment, death of the down town, and destitution of people who are long term residents.
"I'll advocate free tools anytime... if they make sense. But in many cases, the proprietary stuff IS better, that's reality. "
What if you could get 50% of the functionality for free? What if you get 70% or 80% or 90%.
For example sure ms office is better then star office. But str office is 70% as good and is free. MS sold SQL server for years with the mantra "sure it's not as good as oracle but it's a hell of a lot cheaper". The same argument here. Corporations will always choose a cheaper product if it's "good enough" or "almost as good".
Linux is "good enough" or "almost as good" some even say it's "better" but it's always free.
You can not charge me with perjury I am not under oath.
As for may claims.
You are saying that the video tape entered as evidence was not doctored? you are saying that Bill gates did not tell at least one like during his deposition? You are saying that MS never threatened Dell and especially gateway with jacking their prices up if they testified against MS. Dell wimped out but the gateway team did end up testifying against them. And of course you are claiming that MS did not bribe politicians and the politicians did not in turn let MS off lightly.
All of these things are a matter of record. Just because you are ignorant of them that does not mean they did not happen. If ignorance is bliss then you must be a very happy person indeed. Go read up on this trial it's obvious you don't know anything about it.
Maybe you are not an ignorant stupid litte child perhaps you are simply paid to post lies at slashdot.
Who limits the number of lawyers? What is the maximum number of laywers that the US can have and how is that number distributed amongst the different cities and states.
Just because I spelled a word wrong that does not mean you are not an ignorant fuck who thinks there is a cap on the number of lawyers.
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What I have against is that you you are moron. A nonsensical moron at that. First you say you choose.net because it's backed by the biggest vendor then you say that does not matter. you say silly stupid things like "Since.NET is actually documented, I think there will be plenty of people wanting to maintain a port to linux" which makes no sense at all. There is no port of.NET for linux. They may be one for freebsd but that's a big question mark. There is mono but it's two years behind.NET. The important parts of.NET is not only copywrighted by MS they are also patented. Those parts will never be duplicated.
Think before you speak or at least do some research for christ sake.
Too bad nobody is putting bullets into your head. The problem with liberals is that they are not willing to kill people like you while people like you are willing to kill liberals. You never hear of an abortion doctor killing a priest do you? It's time liberals wised up and armed themselves. Republicans and liberterians are armed and willing to kill and it's not a fair game till the liberals start plugging liberterians and republicans.
As long as they are not willing to kill they will continue to be crushed.
He was going to take his "no ID" and use it to pry open the door to some building. Then he was going to disassemble the gas mask and take out the activated charcoal and pile it neatly in the basement. he was then going to carefully place the rubber part of the mask on top of the charcoal. Next he was going to make a long wick by tearing his black mask into strips. Standing from a now safe distance he was going to light his mask wick with his lighter and run like hell before the ensuing explosion brought down the entire building and maybe even some adjacent buildings.
Lucky they caught him who knows how many people he could have killed with those masks and that lighter.
Yes we should immediately lock up every body who might commit some crime. We should also lock up anybody who says things which might lead other people to commit crimes. Yes by golly that's the america I want to live in!
Would you go to jail for graffiti? Has anybody ever gone to jail for graffiti? I don't think so.
So why do you want him to go to jail for grafitti? Especially considering his defacement was easier to fix then your typical tagging of some wall?
This the problem with America today. Nobody has any sense of proportion. People on slashdot are advocating rape and jail as just forms of punishment for graffiti.
You know the moderation system is out of whach when a nonsensical post like this gets modded up to 5.
In what way is the supply of lawyers artificially restricted. Are the numbers of lawyers growing? Is there some society that determines how many lawyers each town has? Is there racial or gender discrimination? Who restricts the number of laywers and how? Go ahead and back up your ridiculus assertion.
Perhaps while you were wallowing in your ignarance you confused passing the bar exam as some sort of a restriction. If this is so please tell us how this is different from doctors, professional engineers, electricians, plumbers hell even MCSEs.
I await your answers.
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If you are a phd candidate then please tell me your university. If they are willing to hand out PhDs to nincompoops like you I want to sign up too.
"I certainly don't choose my languages based on the size of vendors and level of acceptance"
I guess your last two posts mentioning the size of vendor and the level of acceptance were just lies then right?
"That will let me program for Windows (or linux, or whatever) in whatever language I choose, providing it has a.NET implementation. "
Right now there is no linux.net implementation. Maybe some day there will be one but I'd venture to say it will be exactly like the the version of IE for solaris and the version COM for solaris, just about useless and outdated by several years.
"I'm sure you are sad that.NET and C# will likely (well, who knows?) "
.NET and C# will be used by the same people who use VB now. They will be used to build windows apps. Java will still be used to build apps that need to work on multiple operating systems. Nothing will change.
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What are you going to program in.NET? VB.NET? Eiffel#? I think that's all that's available now. Give me a break. You are fucking idiot if you choose your languages and technologies based on "biggest vendor" and "level of acceptance". Java has probably the biggest pool of developers in the world you fuckhead. I know of very few corporations that don't have at least one or two serious java apps. "level of acceptance" my ass. You are an ignorant, stupid, childish little boy.
I am none of the things you claim. I don't belive in god nor do I subscribe to any "ism". I think capitalism and communism or socialism all end up the same in the end. 10% of the people control 90% of the money. No matter what ism is being practiced this has not changed throught history.
I do find it very amusing however that of all the "ism"s being practiced today capitalism is the one most similar to satanism wheras communism and socialism are most like the christian value system. The sermon on the mount could be a very powerful communist (or socialist) manifesto don't you think?
What I find especially bothersome is the the fact that Koday (supposedly) had these patents. They did nothing with them. Sun produced a product, hyped it, sold it, improved it and put in millions of dollars and man hours into it.
Kodak then comes in and demands money after the fact when they made no attempt to actually do anything.
I think that's crazy. Why punish the people who got off their asses and did something especially if the punisher was too lazy or stupid to actually make use of their idea.
This isn't just about sun and kodak either. Who was suing palm recently? Same thing.
Sit on your ass doing nothing, wait for somebody else to do all the work. Then sue them and retire in the bahamas. It's the american way I guess. Sure beats working.
"Secondly, the real advantage of.NET is that you can write in whatever language you want to and use components from other languages in your.NET programs. Those are hardly minor advances."
On what planet is this an advance?
Ever hear of a thing called COM? Yes I was able to call components written in delphi from php go figure!.
Ever hear of CORBA? I believe it's been around a while and allows you to *gasp* use components from other languages even over the net.
.NET is simply the next way to write windows applications nothing more nothing less. It's useless for anybody wanting cross platform programming. I think more people are interested in writing for more then one platform then using five languages to write one program. The latter is simply a silly idea and a solution to a problem nobody has.
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So let me get this straight..NET is better then Java because MS makes it.
In fact MS products are better then anything else because MS makes them. If anybody else makes any other product it will automatically be inferior because "biggest OS vendor" is not pushing them.
I always thought VB programmers were idiots now I know.
"Mantra: Only individuals have rights, not corporations. Corporations are NOT people."
A better mantra.
a) corporations are beings as defined by law.
b) corporrations are immortal beings (they have an infinate life span and can only be killed by sacred incantations and scrolls wielded by a small cadre of professionals)
c) Corporations have no soul.
Corporations therefore are soul-less immortal beings. Very much like demons and devils. They are summoned by a priest class with incomprehensible chants and dismissed by the same class. Corporations serve those who summon them. Corporations enslave people to serve them.
Really corporations are exactly like demons of mythology.
Put this as your your signature.
"corporations are soul-less immortal beings, what does your god say about soul-less immortal beings?"
State politicians are easier to bribe and cost less. You can bribe a typical state legislator with a few thousand dollars and they will hand the state over to you. It costs more to get senators and congressmen.
"My guess is that Microsoft added this to the EULA to avoid having silly people (or companies) turn on the auto-update feature and then sue MS when something breaks, whether it's really Microsoft's fault or not."
My machine updates itself. My machine breaks. In what universe is this not Microsoft's fault? And why shouldn't they be held responsible for it?
Ok I see where you are coming from here. Your premise is wrong so therefore your conclusion is wrong.
"Java has failed in Sun's primary quest - to bring massive cross-platform applications to the desktop"
Sun's original goal with java was to be an embedded platform able to work on a variety of chipsets. Then it tried to position it as a "applet" web enhancer. Somehow it caught on in other areas instead. In fact there a quite a number of java desktop applications running all across the country inside firewalls so some degree of desktop penetration is already present. I have played around a bit with java web start lately and I see some great windows apps too so the desktop presense is growing outside the firewalls too.
" Mono is completed in a reasonable amount of time"
According to Miguel they are two years behind MS. With the resources that MS has Mono will never catch up and will always be at least a year behind. Somehow I just don't see mono catching on in the OSS world.NET is just too burdened with patents and nobody wants to face an army of MS lawyers just because they wrote some code.
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You didn't just say the killing innocents is wrong. You said that people who might kill other people should be locked up.
You are considered a troll because in this case the person you were talking about did not kill anybody and was in fact charged with "failing to disperse" and "conspiracy to fail to disperse". It's amazing to me that's even a crime in this country but I guess it is.
"Why, so they can be excluded from even the attempt to compete? "
There are several reasons. One is that wall mart does not build regular stores. They almost always need to have the zoning regulations changed to fit their business models. In this case they want special treatment and the city is under no obligation to give special treatment to this corporation.
Two> The city has to look at the overall welfare of all it's citizens. When a wall mart opens the money that is spend at wallmart get's funneled out of the city. If you spend your money at mom and pop they will eat at the local restaurant or buy their shoes at the neighborhood store or go the local theater. When you spend money at wallmart the money goes to the east coast and your local community never sees it. The fact is that frequently wall marts harm the local economy. they open up a store, the drive local businesses out, the town's economy suffers because all the money is gone, wall mart closes up shop and moves to fresh feeding grounds.
The city has to look at all factors short and long term when deciding to make accomodations for busineses. They don't work for corporations they work for the people. they damn well better stop corporations from "competing" if the result will be collapse of the city, massive unemployment, death of the down town, and destitution of people who are long term residents.
"I'll advocate free tools anytime... if they make sense. But in many cases, the proprietary stuff IS better, that's reality. "
What if you could get 50% of the functionality for free? What if you get 70% or 80% or 90%.
For example sure ms office is better then star office. But str office is 70% as good and is free. MS sold SQL server for years with the mantra "sure it's not as good as oracle but it's a hell of a lot cheaper". The same argument here. Corporations will always choose a cheaper product if it's "good enough" or "almost as good".
Linux is "good enough" or "almost as good" some even say it's "better" but it's always free.
You can not charge me with perjury I am not under oath.
As for may claims.
You are saying that the video tape entered as evidence was not doctored? you are saying that Bill gates did not tell at least one like during his deposition? You are saying that MS never threatened Dell and especially gateway with jacking their prices up if they testified against MS. Dell wimped out but the gateway team did end up testifying against them. And of course you are claiming that MS did not bribe politicians and the politicians did not in turn let MS off lightly.
All of these things are a matter of record. Just because you are ignorant of them that does not mean they did not happen. If ignorance is bliss then you must be a very happy person indeed. Go read up on this trial it's obvious you don't know anything about it.
Maybe you are not an ignorant stupid litte child perhaps you are simply paid to post lies at slashdot.
Wow what kind of an idiot programmer makes an XML parser that is dependent on a browser?
Never mind the answer is a windows programmer who are by definition idiots.
Hey fuckhead just answer these questions.
Who limits the number of lawyers? What is the maximum number of laywers that the US can have and how is that number distributed amongst the different cities and states.
Just because I spelled a word wrong that does not mean you are not an ignorant fuck who thinks there is a cap on the number of lawyers.
What I have against is that you you are moron. A nonsensical moron at that. First you say you choose .net because it's backed by the biggest vendor then you say that does not matter. you say silly stupid things like "Since .NET is actually documented, I think there will be plenty of people wanting to maintain a port to linux" which makes no sense at all. There is no port of .NET for linux. They may be one for freebsd but that's a big question mark. There is mono but it's two years behind .NET. The important parts of .NET is not only copywrighted by MS they are also patented. Those parts will never be duplicated.
Think before you speak or at least do some research for christ sake.
Too bad nobody is putting bullets into your head. The problem with liberals is that they are not willing to kill people like you while people like you are willing to kill liberals. You never hear of an abortion doctor killing a priest do you? It's time liberals wised up and armed themselves. Republicans and liberterians are armed and willing to kill and it's not a fair game till the liberals start plugging liberterians and republicans.
As long as they are not willing to kill they will continue to be crushed.
Ok I think I got it.
He was going to take his "no ID" and use it to pry open the door to some building. Then he was going to disassemble the gas mask and take out the activated charcoal and pile it neatly in the basement. he was then going to carefully place the rubber part of the mask on top of the charcoal. Next he was going to make a long wick by tearing his black mask into strips. Standing from a now safe distance he was going to light his mask wick with his lighter and run like hell before the ensuing explosion brought down the entire building and maybe even some adjacent buildings.
Lucky they caught him who knows how many people he could have killed with those masks and that lighter.
Yes we should immediately lock up every body who might commit some crime. We should also lock up anybody who says things which might lead other people to commit crimes. Yes by golly that's the america I want to live in!
What was he found guilty of again?
Would you go to jail for graffiti? Has anybody ever gone to jail for graffiti? I don't think so.
So why do you want him to go to jail for grafitti? Especially considering his defacement was easier to fix then your typical tagging of some wall?
This the problem with America today. Nobody has any sense of proportion. People on slashdot are advocating rape and jail as just forms of punishment for graffiti.
You know the moderation system is out of whach when a nonsensical post like this gets modded up to 5.
In what way is the supply of lawyers artificially restricted. Are the numbers of lawyers growing? Is there some society that determines how many lawyers each town has? Is there racial or gender discrimination? Who restricts the number of laywers and how? Go ahead and back up your ridiculus assertion.
Perhaps while you were wallowing in your ignarance you confused passing the bar exam as some sort of a restriction. If this is so please tell us how this is different from doctors, professional engineers, electricians, plumbers hell even MCSEs.
I await your answers.
If you are a phd candidate then please tell me your university. If they are willing to hand out PhDs to nincompoops like you I want to sign up too.
.NET implementation. "
.net implementation. Maybe some day there will be one but I'd venture to say it will be exactly like the the version of IE for solaris and the version COM for solaris, just about useless and outdated by several years.
.NET and C# will likely (well, who knows?) "
"I certainly don't choose my languages based on the size of vendors and level of acceptance"
I guess your last two posts mentioning the size of vendor and the level of acceptance were just lies then right?
"That will let me program for Windows (or linux, or whatever) in whatever language I choose, providing it has a
Right now there is no linux
"I'm sure you are sad that
.NET and C# will be used by the same people who use VB now. They will be used to build windows apps. Java will still be used to build apps that need to work on multiple operating systems. Nothing will change.
BTW. Yes you are still stupid idiot.
"most small inventors .."
I hardly consider kodak a small inventor.
What are you going to program in .NET? VB.NET? Eiffel#? I think that's all that's available now. Give me a break. You are fucking idiot if you choose your languages and technologies based on "biggest vendor" and "level of acceptance". Java has probably the biggest pool of developers in the world you fuckhead. I know of very few corporations that don't have at least one or two serious java apps. "level of acceptance" my ass. You are an ignorant, stupid, childish little boy.
I am none of the things you claim. I don't belive in god nor do I subscribe to any "ism". I think capitalism and communism or socialism all end up the same in the end. 10% of the people control 90% of the money. No matter what ism is being practiced this has not changed throught history.
I do find it very amusing however that of all the "ism"s being practiced today capitalism is the one most similar to satanism wheras communism and socialism are most like the christian value system. The sermon on the mount could be a very powerful communist (or socialist) manifesto don't you think?
This is in regard to the kodak suit.
What I find especially bothersome is the the fact that Koday (supposedly) had these patents. They did nothing with them. Sun produced a product, hyped it, sold it, improved it and put in millions of dollars and man hours into it.
Kodak then comes in and demands money after the fact when they made no attempt to actually do anything.
I think that's crazy. Why punish the people who got off their asses and did something especially if the punisher was too lazy or stupid to actually make use of their idea.
This isn't just about sun and kodak either. Who was suing palm recently? Same thing.
Sit on your ass doing nothing, wait for somebody else to do all the work. Then sue them and retire in the bahamas. It's the american way I guess. Sure beats working.
"Install the patch and be done with it."
On all 5000 desktops of your corporation.
"Secondly, the real advantage of .NET is that you can write in whatever language you want to and use components from other languages in your .NET programs. Those are hardly minor advances."
On what planet is this an advance?
Ever hear of a thing called COM? Yes I was able to call components written in delphi from php go figure!.
Ever hear of CORBA? I believe it's been around a while and allows you to *gasp* use components from other languages even over the net.
.NET is simply the next way to write windows applications nothing more nothing less. It's useless for anybody wanting cross platform programming. I think more people are interested in writing for more then one platform then using five languages to write one program. The latter is simply a silly idea and a solution to a problem nobody has.
So let me get this straight. .NET is better then Java because MS makes it.
In fact MS products are better then anything else because MS makes them. If anybody else makes any other product it will automatically be inferior because "biggest OS vendor" is not pushing them.
I always thought VB programmers were idiots now I know.
"Mantra: Only individuals have rights, not corporations. Corporations are NOT people."
A better mantra.
a) corporations are beings as defined by law.
b) corporrations are immortal beings (they have an infinate life span and can only be killed by sacred incantations and scrolls wielded by a small cadre of professionals)
c) Corporations have no soul.
Corporations therefore are soul-less immortal beings. Very much like demons and devils. They are summoned by a priest class with incomprehensible chants and dismissed by the same class. Corporations serve those who summon them. Corporations enslave people to serve them.
Really corporations are exactly like demons of mythology.
Put this as your your signature.
"corporations are soul-less immortal beings, what does your god say about soul-less immortal beings?"
State politicians are easier to bribe and cost less. You can bribe a typical state legislator with a few thousand dollars and they will hand the state over to you. It costs more to get senators and congressmen.
"My guess is that Microsoft added this to the EULA to avoid having silly people (or companies) turn on the auto-update feature and then sue MS when something breaks, whether it's really Microsoft's fault or not."
My machine updates itself. My machine breaks. In what universe is this not Microsoft's fault? And why shouldn't they be held responsible for it?
Ok I see where you are coming from here. Your premise is wrong so therefore your conclusion is wrong.
.NET is just too burdened with patents and nobody wants to face an army of MS lawyers just because they wrote some code.
"Java has failed in Sun's primary quest - to bring massive cross-platform applications to the desktop"
Sun's original goal with java was to be an embedded platform able to work on a variety of chipsets. Then it tried to position it as a "applet" web enhancer. Somehow it caught on in other areas instead. In fact there a quite a number of java desktop applications running all across the country inside firewalls so some degree of desktop penetration is already present. I have played around a bit with java web start lately and I see some great windows apps too so the desktop presense is growing outside the firewalls too.
" Mono is completed in a reasonable amount of time"
According to Miguel they are two years behind MS. With the resources that MS has Mono will never catch up and will always be at least a year behind. Somehow I just don't see mono catching on in the OSS world