"The Internet Browser shouldn't be a product bought and sold in the marketplace. It's a very basic product at its heart, and should be included with PCs to begin with."
you know what? That's just what I feel about operating systems.
I think that it indeed contradicts your post. Perhaps it clarifies your post. I'll put it this way.
Enron fell despite the fact that the govt tried their damned best to keep it propped up. They had friends in high places, those friends passed laws to make more money for enron, enron fell anyways. I guess when the top brass is out to rip off everybody not even a exteremely helpful govt can prevent failure.
"This is clearly not true. Let's take a recent example: Enron [enron.com] which lobbied the government for a bail-out and other protections but didn't receive them."
Why do people insist on hanging on to their delusions like this.
Look just because GW stabbed his buddy in the back when the enron empire was in the process of collapsing that does not mean GW and his party did not help enron for years before that. Even right up to the moment of collapse enron execs had the private phone numbers of GW, Cheney, and top level officials. That access is worth a lot of money and certainly you and I don't have it. Also consider that for years enron had the texas legislature and the governorship in their pocket. Once Bush got into office he passed numerous laws which made enron hundreds of millions of dollars.
In the end as the house of cards was falling down GW stabbed his long term friend in the back to save his butt. One imagines Ken Lay uttering "e tu double u" as he collapses down. At one point dubya even denied they were friends, with friends like that well you know the rest.
I really don't see how dissing passport and suggesting libery is any sort of a contradiction. The reason people distrust passport is because they distrust you, your bosses, and the rest of your company. It has nothing to do with technology or methods just with the ethics of the people who will hold your data.
This is not to say that SUN is a more ethical company then MS (although relatively speaking they probably are). The truth of the matter is that a consortium of companies is more likely to have an neutral outcome. Usually the contradicting wishes of a couple of dozen corporations is more likely to favor the consumer then the monolithic wishes of one monopoly. This is afterall the underlying premise of capitalism.
Ideally of course there would be an open source, distributed authentication mechanism and it would be out of the control of all corporations. Perhaps being overseen by a non profit privacy coalition but we know such a entity could never survive an assault by MS let alone the likes of Visa etc.
In the end the point is mute. Like all other things in the computing world it will be MS vs the World. Everybody in MS feels that everybody else in the world are idiots and the feeling is recipricated. Without the backing of Visa and the mjor banks passport will die a slow death. Unfortunately MS has made too enemies in their run to the top.
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Unfortunately I know of no ethics framework other then satanism which tells people to accumulate wealth. Certainly none of the traditional religions which form the core of our ethics system do. Jesus, budha, mohammed all preached a life of simplicity and charity. Of the three mohammed was the most "earthly" and even he commanded his people to tithe 10%. Jesus certainly had problems with wealth accumulation and budha of course preached a life of poverty pretty much.
The first commandment of capitalism (and therefore corporations) is "tho shalt accumulate as much wealth as possible". At the opposite end of that you have "it is harder for a rich man to get into heaven then a camel to go through the eye of a needle". It's the american cognitive dissonance engine. In god we trust, after wealth we toil.
I always thought it was pretty clever. The golden rule "do onto others what you would have them do onto you" so far has not worked. I have always wondered what kind of a world this would be if the tool motto was the golden rule. As for "eye for an eye" that too has been thrown aside. These days the rule of israel is prevalent "and eye for a tooth" in other words "do onto them ten times what has been done to you".
Is it the guys job to stop thiefs (and perhaps risk his life or well being?). The guy gets paid 7 an hour to stock shelves and smile not to stop robberies. That job belongs to the cops. Like the author said this was texas and who knows what the guy might have been packing.
" If corporations are taking over the government, I expect to see the government being run as a corporation. I don't."
What a nightmare this would be. One out of three companies in the US fail. Imagine if one out of three govt programs would fail. Imagine the catastrophy that would happen if the social security administration decided it was not profitable to give people money for nothing and folded up?
The reason govt is as inefficient is because it has to serve everybody. A corporation can quit doing things that don't make money but the govt does not have that luxury. Giving benefits to veterans, handing out social security checks, waging war and keeping a standing army, delivering mail to every two bit town in the world, keeping the streets cleared of snow, keeping criminals in jail are ineherently money losing propositions.
How do you account for the disparity in money between the parties then? The republicans raise more money then the democrats do and they hate unions, teachers, liberals, environmentalists, feminists etc. According to you the dems ought to be raising more money.
Also the corps can deliver votes too. Remember they can "suggest" that their employees vote for someone or another which is probably more effective then what any union or association can do. The corps can fire people after all.
I once saw a T-Shirt. On it was a picture of slaves stacked up kind of like firewood being transported in a ship. At the bottom of the picture were the words "never forget, never forgive".
I think that motto will always apply to this election and the shameful way the courts acted from the lowest level to the highest level.
Because we area able to learn from the openbsd team. Their goal is to help everybody build more secure systems. MS security practice takes place behind closed doors and can not help anybody else.
In the end we will see if MS is able to actually execute their goal. OpenBSD already has.
There are other free or pretty damned cheap office suites on the market today. Koffice and 602 immediately come to mind. These days nobody is able to sell office suites because MS has a chokehold on the market. Wordperfect suite and lotus smartsuite cost less then office yet they have a miniscule percentage fo the market. Staroffice is MUCH cheaper and still nobody uses it. Openoffice is free and still not even the smallest dent in the MS stranglehold.
No matter how cheap your suite is, no matter how good it is, no matter even if it's free. Businesses won't use it because the PHB's are all stupid and people won't use it because they want the same thing at home that they have at work.
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Standards have never stopped MS before. If their monopoly was threatened they would break the standard in the windows implementation of the CLI. Code then would not be compatible with the unix version and voila they steer the ship back to monopoly land.
Sometimes it's not the managers, sometimes it's life that sucks. The managers are trying to make business run in a chaotic world. Economies, the competitors, the shareholders, the investors, the ceos etc are constantly throwing curveballs at you. The engineers and the rest of the geeks would like to be shielded from all that but it's just not possible.
You legal options are running out fast. It's beginning to be time for action ourside of the system. May you live in interesting times indeed. History shows us that whenever the powers that be get too greedy people figure out a way to get it back. Sometimes it's bloody, sometimes it's clean, we'll see.
I think I do. The SCOUS will vote with ashcroft. Does anybody expect otherwise? This is a republican court which will vote with the republicans. To them lessig is a commie, pinko, intellectual pansy, hippie. Hell will freeze over if they side with a liberal professor.
You are kidding aren't you? Other then Bill gates who can afford to buy a majority share in disney? Even if Bill wanted to would the 10 ro 20 people who own the majority of shares sell it?
Dude you got hoaxed. That petition was a total hoax. Geri Halliwell of the spice girls is one of the signators as a (biologist). LOL.
Also the two links from junkscience.com are bogus too. One is from the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine which is republican front and the other from a gas company "scientist".
Please do some research before posting bogus links as science.
Were you refering to the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine petition? Dude you got hoaxed!. That was proven to be a hoax that's why it did not appear on discovery channel or any other respectible publication. It did however get a lot of press with the conservative press who could not tell science from fiction if it smacked them on the head.
I saw the one about the snowbal earth. Only bacteria were alive for a long time. When the ice burst it unleased ungodly storms for a a very long time (I don't remember the exact time but it was way long like centuries). No place for humans.
The cutting of forests has moved to the west. The east got replanted somewhat but it's still not back up to the way it was 200 years ago (and it will never be how can it?).
Compare the forestation of 1600 to today and both the eas and the west coast are below those levels. Worldwide it's the same.
Quit your whining and answer the fucking question you stupid fuck.
What is the maximum number of lawyers the united states can have, how is that number distributed amongst the various cities and states, and who enforces these numbers.
This was your idiot assertion not mine. I just want you to clarify your point. You refuse to and complain about my spelling and my abusiveness.
You made a moronic nonsensical post now explain yourself or at least admit that you were full of shit when you made some insane accusation that there was an artificial scarcity of lawyers.
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Wow when did we eliminate darkness, cold and starvation in the US? I must have missed that bit of news.
"The Internet Browser shouldn't be a product bought and sold in the marketplace. It's a very basic product at its heart, and should be included with PCs to begin with."
you know what? That's just what I feel about operating systems.
"None of which contradicts my post."
I think that it indeed contradicts your post. Perhaps it clarifies your post. I'll put it this way.
Enron fell despite the fact that the govt tried their damned best to keep it propped up. They had friends in high places, those friends passed laws to make more money for enron, enron fell anyways. I guess when the top brass is out to rip off everybody not even a exteremely helpful govt can prevent failure.
"This is clearly not true. Let's take a recent example: Enron [enron.com] which lobbied the government for a bail-out and other protections but didn't receive them."
Why do people insist on hanging on to their delusions like this.
Look just because GW stabbed his buddy in the back when the enron empire was in the process of collapsing that does not mean GW and his party did not help enron for years before that. Even right up to the moment of collapse enron execs had the private phone numbers of GW, Cheney, and top level officials. That access is worth a lot of money and certainly you and I don't have it. Also consider that for years enron had the texas legislature and the governorship in their pocket. Once Bush got into office he passed numerous laws which made enron hundreds of millions of dollars.
In the end as the house of cards was falling down GW stabbed his long term friend in the back to save his butt. One imagines Ken Lay uttering "e tu double u" as he collapses down. At one point dubya even denied they were friends, with friends like that well you know the rest.
I really don't see how dissing passport and suggesting libery is any sort of a contradiction. The reason people distrust passport is because they distrust you, your bosses, and the rest of your company. It has nothing to do with technology or methods just with the ethics of the people who will hold your data.
This is not to say that SUN is a more ethical company then MS (although relatively speaking they probably are). The truth of the matter is that a consortium of companies is more likely to have an neutral outcome. Usually the contradicting wishes of a couple of dozen corporations is more likely to favor the consumer then the monolithic wishes of one monopoly. This is afterall the underlying premise of capitalism.
Ideally of course there would be an open source, distributed authentication mechanism and it would be out of the control of all corporations. Perhaps being overseen by a non profit privacy coalition but we know such a entity could never survive an assault by MS let alone the likes of Visa etc.
In the end the point is mute. Like all other things in the computing world it will be MS vs the World. Everybody in MS feels that everybody else in the world are idiots and the feeling is recipricated. Without the backing of Visa and the mjor banks passport will die a slow death. Unfortunately MS has made too enemies in their run to the top.
Unfortunately I know of no ethics framework other then satanism which tells people to accumulate wealth. Certainly none of the traditional religions which form the core of our ethics system do. Jesus, budha, mohammed all preached a life of simplicity and charity. Of the three mohammed was the most "earthly" and even he commanded his people to tithe 10%. Jesus certainly had problems with wealth accumulation and budha of course preached a life of poverty pretty much.
The first commandment of capitalism (and therefore corporations) is "tho shalt accumulate as much wealth as possible". At the opposite end of that you have "it is harder for a rich man to get into heaven then a camel to go through the eye of a needle". It's the american cognitive dissonance engine. In god we trust, after wealth we toil.
It's from a tool song.
I always thought it was pretty clever. The golden rule "do onto others what you would have them do onto you" so far has not worked. I have always wondered what kind of a world this would be if the tool motto was the golden rule. As for "eye for an eye" that too has been thrown aside. These days the rule of israel is prevalent "and eye for a tooth" in other words "do onto them ten times what has been done to you".
Is it the guys job to stop thiefs (and perhaps risk his life or well being?). The guy gets paid 7 an hour to stock shelves and smile not to stop robberies. That job belongs to the cops. Like the author said this was texas and who knows what the guy might have been packing.
" If corporations are taking over the government, I expect to see the government being run as a corporation. I don't."
What a nightmare this would be. One out of three companies in the US fail. Imagine if one out of three govt programs would fail. Imagine the catastrophy that would happen if the social security administration decided it was not profitable to give people money for nothing and folded up?
The reason govt is as inefficient is because it has to serve everybody. A corporation can quit doing things that don't make money but the govt does not have that luxury. Giving benefits to veterans, handing out social security checks, waging war and keeping a standing army, delivering mail to every two bit town in the world, keeping the streets cleared of snow, keeping criminals in jail are ineherently money losing propositions.
How do you account for the disparity in money between the parties then? The republicans raise more money then the democrats do and they hate unions, teachers, liberals, environmentalists, feminists etc. According to you the dems ought to be raising more money.
Also the corps can deliver votes too. Remember they can "suggest" that their employees vote for someone or another which is probably more effective then what any union or association can do. The corps can fire people after all.
I once saw a T-Shirt. On it was a picture of slaves stacked up kind of like firewood being transported in a ship. At the bottom of the picture were the words "never forget, never forgive".
I think that motto will always apply to this election and the shameful way the courts acted from the lowest level to the highest level.
Because we area able to learn from the openbsd team. Their goal is to help everybody build more secure systems. MS security practice takes place behind closed doors and can not help anybody else.
In the end we will see if MS is able to actually execute their goal. OpenBSD already has.
There are other free or pretty damned cheap office suites on the market today. Koffice and 602 immediately come to mind. These days nobody is able to sell office suites because MS has a chokehold on the market. Wordperfect suite and lotus smartsuite cost less then office yet they have a miniscule percentage fo the market. Staroffice is MUCH cheaper and still nobody uses it. Openoffice is free and still not even the smallest dent in the MS stranglehold.
No matter how cheap your suite is, no matter how good it is, no matter even if it's free. Businesses won't use it because the PHB's are all stupid and people won't use it because they want the same thing at home that they have at work.
Standards have never stopped MS before. If their monopoly was threatened they would break the standard in the windows implementation of the CLI. Code then would not be compatible with the unix version and voila they steer the ship back to monopoly land.
Sometimes it's not the managers, sometimes it's life that sucks. The managers are trying to make business run in a chaotic world. Economies, the competitors, the shareholders, the investors, the ceos etc are constantly throwing curveballs at you. The engineers and the rest of the geeks would like to be shielded from all that but it's just not possible.
You legal options are running out fast. It's beginning to be time for action ourside of the system. May you live in interesting times indeed. History shows us that whenever the powers that be get too greedy people figure out a way to get it back. Sometimes it's bloody, sometimes it's clean, we'll see.
"I don't know who'll win the war"
I think I do. The SCOUS will vote with ashcroft. Does anybody expect otherwise? This is a republican court which will vote with the republicans. To them lessig is a commie, pinko, intellectual pansy, hippie. Hell will freeze over if they side with a liberal professor.
You are kidding aren't you? Other then Bill gates who can afford to buy a majority share in disney? Even if Bill wanted to would the 10 ro 20 people who own the majority of shares sell it?
That $80 or $90 represents about 10% of a systems cost these days. I'd say that was significant.
Please check this out.
It's the esmith configuration schema.
They have already solved this problem in a neat way.
People like him can not think on their own. Rush is their god and whatever he says must be true.
Dude you got hoaxed. That petition was a total hoax. Geri Halliwell of the spice girls is one of the signators as a (biologist). LOL.
Also the two links from junkscience.com are bogus too. One is from the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine which is republican front and the other from a gas company "scientist".
Please do some research before posting bogus links as science.
Were you refering to the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine petition? Dude you got hoaxed!. That was proven to be a hoax that's why it did not appear on discovery channel or any other respectible publication. It did however get a lot of press with the conservative press who could not tell science from fiction if it smacked them on the head.
I saw the one about the snowbal earth. Only bacteria were alive for a long time. When the ice burst it unleased ungodly storms for a a very long time (I don't remember the exact time but it was way long like centuries). No place for humans.
The cutting of forests has moved to the west. The east got replanted somewhat but it's still not back up to the way it was 200 years ago (and it will never be how can it?).
Compare the forestation of 1600 to today and both the eas and the west coast are below those levels. Worldwide it's the same.
Quit your whining and answer the fucking question you stupid fuck.
What is the maximum number of lawyers the united states can have, how is that number distributed amongst the various cities and states, and who enforces these numbers.
This was your idiot assertion not mine. I just want you to clarify your point. You refuse to and complain about my spelling and my abusiveness.
You made a moronic nonsensical post now explain yourself or at least admit that you were full of shit when you made some insane accusation that there was an artificial scarcity of lawyers.