That was possibly the most stupid comment I've ever read on the Internet.
As long as Americans treat Muslims the way the should treat anyone that tries to make them their bitches (i.e., the opposite way we Europeans threat them...), you can safely ignore my comments.
Sorry, but no. The ancient Greeks are not related to the current ones (who are ethnically mostly Turkish) in any way. Besides, your Christian religion was a hindrance for Europe for many centuries, not a blessing. It directly contributed to the downfall of the Roman empire, hundreds of wars and lost knowledge.
This is so funny about you nationalists, no matter from where. You are convinced that you are a blood legacy of some master race, but the reality is usually very different.
As long as Americans deal with the Muslims the way they did it in this case, i.e., the right fucking way, i will be a satisfied Greek... because we Europeans/Greeks become such sissies that Muslims started thinking they can make Americans their bitches as did with us... so, right now i am a happy Greek and you can write what ever you want about us... no problem!
My ancestors created the Greek (that influenced the Western) Civilization, and my Christian religion was united with the wisdom of my ancestors and created Europe (and America) - both those qualities (Greek-Christian) are based on the opposite of what the Muslim religion is. The usual tactic of many (left-wing) Europeans/Americans to blame us, the fucking "racist" Christians who criticize this ideology/religion of terror, and all the unrelated similar retarded comments, when the discussion is about the Muslim terror, create a situation that makes any attempt for logical arguments almost destined to fail before even starts. Plus, Europe has become a place where criticizing Muslims is almost forbidden by law, and when the law is not enough to stop some brave men... Muslims take the law into their own hands!
So, instead of trying to "force" my (right-wing) anti-Islamic views i will do something better: i will welcome my dear Americans to... Europe! Yes, you are in Europe now - forget your "free speech" bullshit rights and obey your Muslim lords you Yankee bitches... or not? Because my only hope for protecting the Western Civilization from the Muslim terror is not any European (not even Greek, not even a right-wing Greek like i am), but fucking Americans with their toys that spit fire with lead and the always current Greek motto: MOLON LABE
Yeah, it bites all of us (I can't write a thorn here). They only care about Americans so after countless redesigns there's still no proper unicode support.
I understand that it's not that easy to add proper unicode support but i know that it's not that hard... especially since this is a supposedly a site for "nerds"...
By the way, (and thanks to wikipedia!) your "thorn" is our (indispensable) Greek "theta" (also not supported).
So basically you admit that you see women as inherently weaker than men and believe you need to coddle and protect them... which inevitably means controlling them.
Yes, i proclaim that females (usually) are inherently weaker than males, and the (stronger) males have (the moral duty) to coddle and protect them... which inevitably means controlling them (in the degree needed for coddling and protecting them).
Funny how feminism has come full circle.
Well, thank God that my mother (a very tough female!) never taught me this (modern) "feminism"...
So are you blaming Mr Assange for being a suspect (of a crime which doesn't have a witness)? Or are you blaming him for refusing to go to another country because he is a mere suspect?
I just mention some facts: Assange is a fugitive (from the Swedish justice) suspect (accused by the victim) for the rape of a female - facts are just facts (facts are not my opinion - i have an opinion, but i did not mentioned it... i mentioned just facts!)
Oh, sure you are. Did you have to check your onscreen prompt to remind you which country your current sockpuppet is supposed to be from?
I am a real Greek - and you are one more real "malakas"! (in Latin characters because we are in Slashdot -a site for "nerd"...-, where still can't present UTF Greek)
But this specific case is about the left-wing Germany's Green Party, that, since you are also a European like me, you know how extreme is about the issues i mention, and how hypocritically they choose to ignore their own "values". You (and many other like you, even in this discussion), make assumptions about me just because i mentioned some facts (and not any of my opinions) about those three persons (Manning, Assange, Snowden) and also that i am a right-wing Greek (i did it out of honesty, since i refered to the European left-wing) - you write to me "you should move to the US, would fit in well over there" (yes, i think i would fit there just fine), but you have to understand this: Europe is mine also my fellow European - don't forget that.
It you actually believe that, I have a fine bridge to sell you.
If you don't actually believe that, ask some other person to sell you a ticket for some place where people believe what i believe, and will give you every thing they have for a ticket out of there!
....as Manning was when the cables were handed over to Wikileaks.
That is a good explanation/excuse for why our left-wing Europeans depict Manning as a male while s(he) asked to be considered as a female - but i wonder if you suggest that the "new" transexual Manning is less of the man who the left-wing Europeans honor now (!) and if that "new" transexual Manning him/her-self believes that s(he) should not be associated with the acts of the "Manning the man"?
standing next to the political fugitive mister Assange
FTFY. If it had anything at all to do with rape, the Swedish government would have taken Assange up on his offer to return to the country if they promised not to hand him over to the U.S. they way they did to Mohammed al-Zari. They never have.
I will insist with my own original version ("fugitive suspect for the rape of a female mister Assange"), and i would note the hypocrisy of the left-wing Europeans that while strongly supporting the laws for rape of Sweden... honors a Swedish justice fugitive suspect for the rape of a female!
Even i, a right-wing Greek, couldn't plan it better!
I wrote clearly that i am a right-wing Greek because i try to be honest about myself when i make comments about the left-wing.
I am NOT a "national socialist" (why did you thought i am?) - i am a LIBERAL (as the opposite of socialist - an anti-socialist!) GREEK NATIONALIST (like those who fought AGAINST Fascism and Nazism, as allies to the... alies! Yes, the Greek NATIONALISTS -under the leadership of dictator Metaxas, leader of Greece in the beggining of WW2- were the ones that fought Fascism and Nazism, while Greek communists believed that it's not right to do it... because Stalin was still an ally of Hitler!).
And even if my family has nothing to do with it, i will answer to your question about my family: my grandparent fought against Fascism and Nazism BUT THE COMMUNISTS -the ones your link is about- tried to kill him because he was a liberal - the same communists that tried to kill my uncles (they were kids), those that killed THOUSANDS in our civil war.
Do you have any other questions you would like me to answer? Preferably about myself and not my family, but if you insist i will try to ask my father about it (he was a baby when all those your link is about happened - by the way, his mother, my grandmother, with two more babies, was hiding from those communists, and my mother's family also was hiding from the communists that tried to abduct some uncles of mine).
I don't disagree with your point (not even with the "ignore the market of users of IE on Windows XP" - i just want to take this change and note the strong commitment of Microsoft to supporting old versions, something i find important for the enterprise users). My wish (as any developer's i think!) is to have our fucking (even "living") standards as... standard - that is all i want, hopefully is something i will get at last.
Yes, that "rape", in a country that considers rape to be a way overly broad definition compared to any sane country in the world.
Yes, that "rape" whose "victim" suddenly shut up and vanished when asked for further questioning.
Fuck off. He never raped anyone. It is a blatant attack of his character because they know rape is a good tool to destroy a persons character there. (next to pedophile in a bunch of countries like the UK and USA)
You write to me "Fuck off. He never raped anyone." (by the way, should i understand that you was his judge...), but i just wrote "fugitive suspect for the rape of a female mister Assange", and the rest of your comment is a proof that you missing the point of my comment... since Germany's Green party (the one honoring him with the statue) STRONGLY SUPPORTS the laws about rape in Sweden (from where Assange is... fugitive suspect for the rape of a female)!
I think most of us agree with the sentiment that we should respect people's wishes, but before you start someone about it, I think you need to back up your assumption that the wishes he expressed under duress accurately represent his desire. Until some more evidence comes out, perhaps it would be best not to take a pompously strong position.
Where in the "...depicting Manning as a male while s(he) asked to be considered as a female, standing next to the fugitive suspect for the rape of a female mister Assange, between a transexual and mister Snowden who is protected by a goverment declaring that homosexuals are not welcomed... " i criticize (as in negatively judging) anyone, or specificaly Manning? I just stated facts (that i honestly believe to be true: Manning is a transexual - and: Assange is fugitive suspect for the rape of a female in Sweden, Snowden has asylum in Russia that has restriction laws about homosexuality). And why should i doubt Manning's own words? If you believe that something i wrote is not true please inform the rest of Slashdoters (and even me, because i really don't want to spread lies - but i think that you are the one who try to present Manning as a liar, or even criticize transexuals).
I clearly stated that i am a right-wing Greek/European ("Even i, a right-wing Greek, couldn't plan it better!"), and that i make fun of the European left-wing ("Don't you just love our left-wing Europeans?") because what i describe is Germany's Green party inspiration! Actually your comment is a good example of what i make fun of...
Chrome is added as bloatware to a lot of products which makes it hardly surprising that it gains an advantage in market percentage.
And don't forget Firefox*, that is added as a bloatware to almost all distributions...
But maybe now, that many/most people (even usual, not only "power-users") are comfortable enough to choose their web browser, we should just accept the numbers:
Explorer 56%,
Chrome 26%,
Firefox 12%,
other 6%.
* yes, i know, about Explorer, the point is that competition does exists now.
"Activists and members of Germany's Green party unveiled the life-size bronze statues on May Day."
...depicting Manning as a male while s(he) asked to be considered as a female, standing next to the fugitive suspect for the rape of a female mister Assange, between a transexual and mister Snowden who is protected by a goverment declaring that homosexuals are not welcomed...
Even i, a right-wing Greek, couldn't plan it better! Don't you just love our left-wing Europeans?
BASIC was the language i learned how to program (every basic thing someone needs to know about programming, BASIC had it) - it was pre-installed to the R.O.M. of my Amstrad CPC 6128 (i love you dear old friend...) and ready to use - really that simple, start the machine and... type:
10 print "Bill Gates is a good person - haters gonna hate..."
Wait until you see what images they show teenage girls in art class. My god... sometimes... they even see penises!
As i wrote just 2 levels upper in this thread: "A picture (even just a face) of a Playboy model may have a place in CS History class (or even in an Art class), but in strict CS class you must use something neutral that it would not be connected to a pornographic magazine in any way and/or would not force any -sexy, or not so sexy- female compare herself with one more (semi-)virtual competetor..."
I am Greek. Our Greek little girls see such things not just in their Art classes, not even just in their History classes, but in every visit to public places! But in a CS class i would expect matterial not connected to pornographic magazines, matterial that would not make young girls in the class deal with issues unrelated to the subject of their studies - there is no need for that, especially if you understand that the problem is that young girls are problematic (what they may accept as appropriate for an Art class, they will make a big deal out of it in a CS class... hmmm... which is not so stupid if you think about it).
Look up the phrase "paternalistic". What you're saying is that women are so weak, so feckless, so lacking in agency and personal strength, that they can't handle their own media/em made by women, marketed to women, and consumed by women.
Yes, females are weak, feckless, lacking in agency and personal strength... much more than males (who also are vulnerable to "paternalism" from stonger personalities, usually also males) - and young girls are more vulnerable than older women, which are also vulnerable, just less than younger girls (as young boys are more vulnerable than older men).
And the media/em made by women, marketed to women, and consumed by women, usually are formed based on paternalistic influences from men who are the top hierarchs in this paternal social hierarchy that is the real world.
This is natural -something people may call sexism (and sexist anyone, like me, who accepts it as a truth), but still does not change the facts-, and it is a moral duty of good people (men included!) to protect the weaker members of the society (not just "from themselves, females" -how paternalistic!- but -mostly- from stronger bad members/hierarchs - who are usually men...).
What I will ask is... how less sexual can you get from the headshot pic used? That's as asexual as it gets - face of a lady.
I think that in a CS class (not an Art class!) you can get something other than the face of a -pornographic magazine's- model... yes, you can get less sexual stuff than this!
Remember: it's not you (or me) who has the problem.
Clearly by "the people" you mean those people currently holding power. For some reason those are the people that I think *should* be held most accountable.
Well, in a democracy (and in the U.S.A. you/they have a democracy), "the people holding power" ARE "THE people" (directly/indirectly) - and a democracy (like that in the U.S.A.) is based in law and order, else (as my Greek ancestors adviced) becomes an ochlocracy (mob rule).
That picture (even as just a face of a Playboy model) has a sexual notion (even if not explicit) and it is connected to pornography - it may have a place in -if ever existed- a CS History class (or even in an Art class), but in a strict CS class you must use something neutral. Young girls (and older women) are constantly "attacked" (as a "never ending beauty contest") by sexualization - in a (mixed with males/teenage boys) class, where many (if not most) young girls are already not so comfortable, it is better to provide a less sexual environment (as possible, since full asexuality is unrealistic) in which females (and males) can concentrate in their studies.
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and my Christian religion was united with the wisdom of my ancestors and created Europe (and America)
The Christian religion created America in the same way that cancer created chemotherapy. Now, what is the treatment for our capitalism?
Well, thank God that America was not created on the bases of the Muslim religion - cancer is a disease that can be treated, Muslims...
That was possibly the most stupid comment I've ever read on the Internet.
As long as Americans treat Muslims the way the should treat anyone that tries to make them their bitches (i.e., the opposite way we Europeans threat them...), you can safely ignore my comments.
Sorry, but no. The ancient Greeks are not related to the current ones (who are ethnically mostly Turkish) in any way. Besides, your Christian religion was a hindrance for Europe for many centuries, not a blessing. It directly contributed to the downfall of the Roman empire, hundreds of wars and lost knowledge.
This is so funny about you nationalists, no matter from where. You are convinced that you are a blood legacy of some master race, but the reality is usually very different.
As long as Americans deal with the Muslims the way they did it in this case, i.e., the right fucking way, i will be a satisfied Greek... because we Europeans/Greeks become such sissies that Muslims started thinking they can make Americans their bitches as did with us... so, right now i am a happy Greek and you can write what ever you want about us... no problem!
So, instead of trying to "force" my (right-wing) anti-Islamic views i will do something better: i will welcome my dear Americans to... Europe! Yes, you are in Europe now - forget your "free speech" bullshit rights and obey your Muslim lords you Yankee bitches... or not? Because my only hope for protecting the Western Civilization from the Muslim terror is not any European (not even Greek, not even a right-wing Greek like i am), but fucking Americans with their toys that spit fire with lead and the always current Greek motto: MOLON LABE
Yeah, it bites all of us (I can't write a thorn here). They only care about Americans so after countless redesigns there's still no proper unicode support.
I understand that it's not that easy to add proper unicode support but i know that it's not that hard... especially since this is a supposedly a site for "nerds"...
By the way, (and thanks to wikipedia!) your "thorn" is our (indispensable) Greek "theta" (also not supported).
So basically you admit that you see women as inherently weaker than men and believe you need to coddle and protect them... which inevitably means controlling them.
Yes, i proclaim that females (usually) are inherently weaker than males, and the (stronger) males have (the moral duty) to coddle and protect them... which inevitably means controlling them (in the degree needed for coddling and protecting them).
Funny how feminism has come full circle.
Well, thank God that my mother (a very tough female!) never taught me this (modern) "feminism"...
So are you blaming Mr Assange for being a suspect (of a crime which doesn't have a witness)? Or are you blaming him for refusing to go to another country because he is a mere suspect?
I just mention some facts: Assange is a fugitive (from the Swedish justice) suspect (accused by the victim) for the rape of a female - facts are just facts (facts are not my opinion - i have an opinion, but i did not mentioned it... i mentioned just facts!)
"Even i, a right-wing Greek,"
Oh, sure you are. Did you have to check your onscreen prompt to remind you which country your current sockpuppet is supposed to be from?
I am a real Greek - and you are one more real "malakas"! (in Latin characters because we are in Slashdot -a site for "nerd"...-, where still can't present UTF Greek)
But this specific case is about the left-wing Germany's Green Party, that, since you are also a European like me, you know how extreme is about the issues i mention, and how hypocritically they choose to ignore their own "values". You (and many other like you, even in this discussion), make assumptions about me just because i mentioned some facts (and not any of my opinions) about those three persons (Manning, Assange, Snowden) and also that i am a right-wing Greek (i did it out of honesty, since i refered to the European left-wing) - you write to me "you should move to the US, would fit in well over there" (yes, i think i would fit there just fine), but you have to understand this: Europe is mine also my fellow European - don't forget that.
It you actually believe that, I have a fine bridge to sell you.
If you don't actually believe that, ask some other person to sell you a ticket for some place where people believe what i believe, and will give you every thing they have for a ticket out of there!
depicting Manning as a male
....as Manning was when the cables were handed over to Wikileaks.
That is a good explanation/excuse for why our left-wing Europeans depict Manning as a male while s(he) asked to be considered as a female - but i wonder if you suggest that the "new" transexual Manning is less of the man who the left-wing Europeans honor now (!) and if that "new" transexual Manning him/her-self believes that s(he) should not be associated with the acts of the "Manning the man"?
standing next to the political fugitive mister Assange
FTFY. If it had anything at all to do with rape, the Swedish government would have taken Assange up on his offer to return to the country if they promised not to hand him over to the U.S. they way they did to Mohammed al-Zari. They never have.
I will insist with my own original version ("fugitive suspect for the rape of a female mister Assange"), and i would note the hypocrisy of the left-wing Europeans that while strongly supporting the laws for rape of Sweden ... honors a Swedish justice fugitive suspect for the rape of a female!
Even i, a right-wing Greek, couldn't plan it better!
Are you a recent national socialist, or does it run in your family?
I wrote clearly that i am a right-wing Greek because i try to be honest about myself when i make comments about the left-wing.
I am NOT a "national socialist" (why did you thought i am?) - i am a LIBERAL (as the opposite of socialist - an anti-socialist!) GREEK NATIONALIST (like those who fought AGAINST Fascism and Nazism, as allies to the... alies! Yes, the Greek NATIONALISTS -under the leadership of dictator Metaxas, leader of Greece in the beggining of WW2- were the ones that fought Fascism and Nazism, while Greek communists believed that it's not right to do it... because Stalin was still an ally of Hitler!).
And even if my family has nothing to do with it, i will answer to your question about my family: my grandparent fought against Fascism and Nazism BUT THE COMMUNISTS -the ones your link is about- tried to kill him because he was a liberal - the same communists that tried to kill my uncles (they were kids), those that killed THOUSANDS in our civil war.
Do you have any other questions you would like me to answer? Preferably about myself and not my family, but if you insist i will try to ask my father about it (he was a baby when all those your link is about happened - by the way, his mother, my grandmother, with two more babies, was hiding from those communists, and my mother's family also was hiding from the communists that tried to abduct some uncles of mine).
You have so completely missed the point of why these people are heroes.
You have so completely missed my point of why left-wing European people are hypocrites
I don't disagree with your point (not even with the "ignore the market of users of IE on Windows XP" - i just want to take this change and note the strong commitment of Microsoft to supporting old versions, something i find important for the enterprise users). My wish (as any developer's i think!) is to have our fucking (even "living") standards as... standard - that is all i want, hopefully is something i will get at last.
Yes, that "rape", in a country that considers rape to be a way overly broad definition compared to any sane country in the world.
Yes, that "rape" whose "victim" suddenly shut up and vanished when asked for further questioning.
Fuck off. He never raped anyone. It is a blatant attack of his character because they know rape is a good tool to destroy a persons character there. (next to pedophile in a bunch of countries like the UK and USA)
You write to me "Fuck off. He never raped anyone." (by the way, should i understand that you was his judge...), but i just wrote "fugitive suspect for the rape of a female mister Assange", and the rest of your comment is a proof that you missing the point of my comment... since Germany's Green party (the one honoring him with the statue) STRONGLY SUPPORTS the laws about rape in Sweden (from where Assange is... fugitive suspect for the rape of a female)!
I think most of us agree with the sentiment that we should respect people's wishes, but before you start someone about it, I think you need to back up your assumption that the wishes he expressed under duress accurately represent his desire. Until some more evidence comes out, perhaps it would be best not to take a pompously strong position.
Where in the "...depicting Manning as a male while s(he) asked to be considered as a female, standing next to the fugitive suspect for the rape of a female mister Assange, between a transexual and mister Snowden who is protected by a goverment declaring that homosexuals are not welcomed... " i criticize (as in negatively judging) anyone, or specificaly Manning? I just stated facts (that i honestly believe to be true: Manning is a transexual - and: Assange is fugitive suspect for the rape of a female in Sweden, Snowden has asylum in Russia that has restriction laws about homosexuality). And why should i doubt Manning's own words? If you believe that something i wrote is not true please inform the rest of Slashdoters (and even me, because i really don't want to spread lies - but i think that you are the one who try to present Manning as a liar, or even criticize transexuals).
I clearly stated that i am a right-wing Greek/European ("Even i, a right-wing Greek, couldn't plan it better!"), and that i make fun of the European left-wing ("Don't you just love our left-wing Europeans?") because what i describe is Germany's Green party inspiration! Actually your comment is a good example of what i make fun of...
Chrome is added as bloatware to a lot of products which makes it hardly surprising that it gains an advantage in market percentage.
And don't forget Firefox*, that is added as a bloatware to almost all distributions...
But maybe now, that many/most people (even usual, not only "power-users") are comfortable enough to choose their web browser, we should just accept the numbers:
* yes, i know, about Explorer, the point is that competition does exists now.
"Activists and members of Germany's Green party unveiled the life-size bronze statues on May Day."
...depicting Manning as a male while s(he) asked to be considered as a female, standing next to the fugitive suspect for the rape of a female mister Assange, between a transexual and mister Snowden who is protected by a goverment declaring that homosexuals are not welcomed...
Even i, a right-wing Greek, couldn't plan it better! Don't you just love our left-wing Europeans?
BASIC was the language i learned how to program (every basic thing someone needs to know about programming, BASIC had it) - it was pre-installed to the R.O.M. of my Amstrad CPC 6128 (i love you dear old friend...) and ready to use - really that simple, start the machine and... type:
Wait until you see what images they show teenage girls in art class. My god... sometimes... they even see penises!
As i wrote just 2 levels upper in this thread: "A picture (even just a face) of a Playboy model may have a place in CS History class (or even in an Art class), but in strict CS class you must use something neutral that it would not be connected to a pornographic magazine in any way and/or would not force any -sexy, or not so sexy- female compare herself with one more (semi-)virtual competetor..."
I am Greek. Our Greek little girls see such things not just in their Art classes, not even just in their History classes, but in every visit to public places! But in a CS class i would expect matterial not connected to pornographic magazines, matterial that would not make young girls in the class deal with issues unrelated to the subject of their studies - there is no need for that, especially if you understand that the problem is that young girls are problematic (what they may accept as appropriate for an Art class, they will make a big deal out of it in a CS class... hmmm... which is not so stupid if you think about it).
Look up the phrase "paternalistic". What you're saying is that women are so weak, so feckless, so lacking in agency and personal strength, that they can't handle their own media/em made by women, marketed to women, and consumed by women.
Yes, females are weak, feckless, lacking in agency and personal strength... much more than males (who also are vulnerable to "paternalism" from stonger personalities, usually also males) - and young girls are more vulnerable than older women, which are also vulnerable, just less than younger girls (as young boys are more vulnerable than older men).
And the media/em made by women, marketed to women, and consumed by women, usually are formed based on paternalistic influences from men who are the top hierarchs in this paternal social hierarchy that is the real world.
This is natural -something people may call sexism (and sexist anyone, like me, who accepts it as a truth), but still does not change the facts-, and it is a moral duty of good people (men included!) to protect the weaker members of the society (not just "from themselves, females" -how paternalistic!- but -mostly- from stronger bad members/hierarchs - who are usually men...).
We have a definition collision here.
Yes... it happens sometimes.
obligatory xkcd
What I will ask is... how less sexual can you get from the headshot pic used? That's as asexual as it gets - face of a lady.
I think that in a CS class (not an Art class!) you can get something other than the face of a -pornographic magazine's- model... yes, you can get less sexual stuff than this!
Remember: it's not you (or me) who has the problem.
Which people?
Clearly by "the people" you mean those people currently holding power. For some reason those are the people that I think *should* be held most accountable.
Well, in a democracy (and in the U.S.A. you/they have a democracy), "the people holding power" ARE "THE people" (directly/indirectly) - and a democracy (like that in the U.S.A.) is based in law and order, else (as my Greek ancestors adviced) becomes an ochlocracy (mob rule).
That picture (even as just a face of a Playboy model) has a sexual notion (even if not explicit) and it is connected to pornography - it may have a place in -if ever existed- a CS History class (or even in an Art class), but in a strict CS class you must use something neutral. Young girls (and older women) are constantly "attacked" (as a "never ending beauty contest") by sexualization - in a (mixed with males/teenage boys) class, where many (if not most) young girls are already not so comfortable, it is better to provide a less sexual environment (as possible, since full asexuality is unrealistic) in which females (and males) can concentrate in their studies.