Judging from the other responses, I don't think anybody else saw what he did there. To be fair, it's hard to be sure that's he did it on purpose. We've all seen a lot of this kind of hypocrisy, and it's usually kind of funny until it becomes clear that the hypocrite is a genuine hypocrite instead of a ironic one. Then it's even funnier.
I always say: Any sufficiently advanced -1 Troll is indistinguishable from +1 Funny.
I'm sure that this Peeple thing is set up as a corporation, and thus has "limited liability", but in practical terms I'm not sure that phrase really means anything anymore.
Yes, it does. Why would you think otherwise? It's not "a phrase", it's a fundamental part of corporate law.
Well, first, sure it's a phrase. Second, I'm not a lawyer, so I apologize for talking out of ignorance. But here's an excerpt from nolo.com that sort of illustrates what I had in mind:
...you will remain personally liable for any wrongdoing you commit during the course of your LLC business. For example... if [you]: personally and directly injure someone during the course of business due to their negligence, intentionally do something fraudulent, illegal, or reckless during the course of business that causes harm... If both you and your LLC are found liable for an act you commit, then the LLC’s assets and your personal assets could be taken by creditors to satisfy the judgment. [from http://www.nolo.com/legal-ency...
Given that Peeple's business plan could be viewed as essentially an automation platform for libel, couldn't you make the case that it was an act of criminal negligence to set such a fearsome engine in motion in the first place, without the safeguards that were so obviously necessary?
Also, (and again, this isn't a qualified legal opinion), from where I stand as a layman, and from the stories I read in the press, it sometimes seems like the law is whatever the person with the most expensive legal team says it is.
Owners rake in advertising revenue, then shut down once the lawsuits become impossible to ignore and walk away rich.
Yeah. The thing about litigators is, they don't stop coming after you when you decide to "walk away". They only stop once you don't have any more money. I'm sure that this Peeple thing is set up as a corporation, and thus has "limited liability", but in practical terms I'm not sure that phrase really means anything anymore.
I sometimes see those "if you like this site, please turn off your ad blocker" banners on sites that I do actually like.
So, a few times, I have turned off the ad blocker, just to see what would happen. The results are always either, one, incredibly intrusive and distracting autoplaying videos playing at random moments, or two, the site just stops working completely because, even on a medium-performance laptop with a business-class data connection, the web browser just can't handle the gigabytes and gigabytes of advertisements that the site is trying to push over the wire.
Maybe if there was a browser that let you opt out of loading, then autoplaying, enormous video files without plugins, I would consider it. But until then, the blocker stays on, thanks.
Snowden followed a single Twitter account: the U.S. National Security Agency
Khm, I wonder, why he is not following Kremlin's accounts. Just to, you know, hold Putin accountable...
Just because Russia is worse doesn't mean America isn't bad. If you really want to speak out against the abuses of the Medici, you're going to need the protection of the Borgias first. Hypocritical? Sure. But I'm afraid that's just how Renaissance Italy works.
The problem, as I see it, is that by doing it in Javascript, we're introducing a new dependency: the code will only work on a browser produced in 2015. That's because Javascript, as implemented in a browser, is itself is a moving target. Go on, just try to browse the modern web in Mozilla 1.0. Or Firefox 3.6. You'll find half the Javascript-dependent sites of 2015 simply doesn't work on older browsers.
Is that strictly relevant? I think the dependency we're really introducing is: the code will only work on a browser produced in 2015 or later. If an emulator was originally built for Firefox 41, five years from now I won't care whether or not it runs in Firefox 1.0 as long as it still runs in Firefox 2020.
Agreed, for the most part. Most of the posters seem to be angry because these emulators are browser-based, because apparently native or app-based emulators for forty-year-old game consoles whose killer app was a purple block that chases a cyan block are for real, legitimate, artistic visionaries, while browser-based versions are for dumb stupid babies.
This strikes me like a 45-year-old dude whose hobby is modelling 16th-century Spanish sailing ships in balsa-wood setting fire to the basement workshop of a 35-year old dude someone whose hobby is building 16th-century Portuguese sailing ships out of matchsticks after their parents naively set up a play-date for them.
I can't say I recall [Adware in the 1970s] being a thing.
Are you kidding? I remember that I couldn't read a magazine in the 1970's without seeing a bunch of pop-ups. There was one that was a bank robber picking up a big bag of money, and one that was a car that flew across the page, and one that was, like, green Kryptonite radiation waves...
...Actually, never mind. On further reflection, I think that may have been a popup book about Superman.
And here we see one of several fallacies applied to attack the US government and legal system at all costs, including conflation with child sex trade. We are one step away from somebody saying "Hitler was in favor of parallel construction"
Wait, you're saying that conflation with the child sex trade is a tactic mainly used against the U.S. executive branch? I think you may have that backwards. It's a testament to how screwed up things are that I legitimately have no idea whether you're trolling or not.
Hitler probably wasn't in favor of parallel construction, but only because he didn't need it.
You people keep acting like child sex slaves are something new, invented by Ariel Castro or something. It's a well-established practice, going back at least as far as as ancient Athens. Didn't you ever read Phaedrus? The idea is to help the child develop sexually under the guidance of a kind and caring elder, before they get all fat and hairy. In every case, a parent has to approve the argument that sooner or later their child was going to get buggered, so they might as well make a few bucks out of it. No coercion is involved. The relationship is mutually beneficial. If sold to a old man, a boy is free to buy his freedom at age 21, if he can afford it.
You're right, how could I be so foolish? Of course parallel construction isn't lying! Because:
I found out you were a fan of our local baseball team because I saw you at the ballpark last Tuesday night.
...is obviously 100% factually equivalent to:
I found out you were a fan of our local baseball team because I snuck into your house and hacked your computer and the only entries in your browser history were mlb.com/teams/townburg_bumblebees and horseporn.com/underage_colt_on_colt/tenatacles.mp4"
The basic problem here is that "parallel construction" equals "lying under oath". Once judges start accepting outright lies, it rots the (already slightly decayed) system right down to the core.
It's like when they're trying to indoctrinate you to be a terrorist, and they make you perform some unspeakably abominable act as your initiation. After that, you won't question your decision to join this iffy organization, because that would mean that you did this unforgivable thing, not for the greater good, but just because a bunch of assholes told you to. Which makes you yourself not only an asshole but also an idiot.
So these judges will not only accept lies as testimony, they will defend the practice to the death, to anyone who raises the very obvious point that you shouldn't base your system of justice on blatant lies. Otherwise they're assholes and idiots, and nobody wants to admit that they're an idiot asshole.
Yes, we should absolutely teach our students how a car works, and how to repair it. They will almost all need cars. They will almost all have cars. All of those cars will break down in some way, at some point.
If, as today, they don't know how the car works, they're going to get cheated by the mechanic. Mechanics try to charge you the most money possible every time you visit them. That is what they do. Even the relatively honest ones use bad statistics to get you to spend money to avert the very low-probability future risk of some relatively minor future inconvenience. The really crooked ones will eat you alive. It happens all day, every day.
It would be an excellent use of education funds to have a one-semester class on how to diagnose car problems.
There's also step 2.5 to be taken into consideration.
Step 2.5: Upon release, try to make a living without committing any crimes, realize that basic survival via legal employment is even further out of reach for a convicted felon than it is for a normal denizen of your already precarious economic background.
corporate welfare. This does nothing to help the people. Nothing.
Granted that this may not be the most efficient use of resources. But really, pretty much any advance in human knowledge either helps or hurts "the people" sooner or later. The chalk-stained mathematician who, after 300 years of failures, finally comes up with a proof of Gummidgy's Last Kerjigger may seem to have had no practical impact on society at large, but fast forward a hundred years and that abstract mathematical theory may show up in, like, the manufacturing process for the nanobot plague that's eating the solar system, or maybe in the hyperdrive that humanity uses to escape it.
Yet, here you are on a GNOME 3 thread like a jilted lover who still has feelings, but has to trash the ex.
Well, yeah, pretty much. I had deep feelings for Gnome 2, but then Gnome 3 betrayed my love, so of course I feel jilted.
Actually, now that I think about it, it's more like that Angelina Jolie movie where her kid got kidnapped, and then the police "found" this other kid and "returned" him to her, only she was like, "but that's not my son", and the police were like, "shut up, you stupid broad, of course it's your kid, stop trying to make us look bad, or we'll have you institutionalized."
In this analogy, I'm Angelina Jolie, Gnome 2 is my son, and Gnome 3 is some other random kid that, aside from being roughly the same size and color, isn't related to Gnome 2 in any way.
Everything in C++ is now deprecated except the word "safe". So you should really be using safesafe::safe_safe_safe in such situations. And in all other situations. When in doubt, just keep typing "safe" until it's safe.
Oh, great, another day, another crazy kookoo post about space travel.
LOOK, IDIOTS, what you're so conveniently forgetting is that there ARE no roads in space! There aren't even dirt ones, much less the multi-lane asphalt highways that we'd need to set up any sort of meaningful economy on Mars! Don't believe me? Look it up on Google Maps! If you go into the route planner and enter, say, "Chicago" in the one box and "Mars" in the destination box, you'll get ZERO results!
Oh, but the next thing you IDIOTS will tell me is that the point of this program is to BUILD a road to Mars. Bullshit! Nobody in their right mind would try to build a road in space! It's just too expensive! How are you going to get the asphalt out there? On a truck, right? HA! Right now you can't even so much as drive TO ORBIT! Much less to MARS! IDIOTS!
I am so sick of you Slashdot IDIOTS bothering me every day with this unrealistic GARBAGE. Space travel will NEVER make economic sense, and meanwhile you IDIOTS are wasting literally HALF of my taxes trying to make it work. Meanwhile, we COULD be spending that money on paying a professional sports team to come to my city. THAT would make economic sense! SO SHUT UP ABOUT THE UNIVERSE ALREADY!
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GNOME 3 sent me to OSX.
You say you wanna know what Gnome 3 ever did to me? Gnome 3 sent me to a foreign land to fight a war I didn't start with people who never did me no wrong. It made me do terrible things, things I still can't talk about, not with anyone, not with God, not even with the Devil. It feels like part of me is still over there. It probably always will. That's what Gnome 3 did to me, Sonny Jim.
Seriously, though, Gnome 3 sucked the last time I looked at it. And by "the last time", I likely mean both the first time and the last time. Trust is a delicate thing. When you sleep with your spouse's best friend or add a "charms bar" to your UI, there's a good chance you won't ever really get back to where you were.
Prosecuting these hackers under the DMCA for stealing fingerprints would be like prosecuting a notorious gangster for, I don't know, tax evasion. It's ridiculous, and it would never happen.
4,000 miles had its own boot strap problem in tech taking centuries to get right.
This was kind of my point. The fact that these problems may take a while to get right is all the more reason to start working them out as soon as possible. But people want to throw up their hands and quit because they don't want to pay an infinitesimal fraction of their taxes toward figuring things out. Because space industry is not immediately profitable, they claim it never will or even can be: "OMG EVARYBODY NOS THAT THIS WILL NEVAR BE PROFITUBBLE IN A MILYUN YRS ITS A WASTE OF TIME!
Well, it's their money, and they're certainly entitled to weigh in on what NASA does with it. Meanwhile, these new Funny Nut Cheerios taste great.
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I see what you did there AC
Judging from the other responses, I don't think anybody else saw what he did there. To be fair, it's hard to be sure that's he did it on purpose. We've all seen a lot of this kind of hypocrisy, and it's usually kind of funny until it becomes clear that the hypocrite is a genuine hypocrite instead of a ironic one. Then it's even funnier.
I always say: Any sufficiently advanced -1 Troll is indistinguishable from +1 Funny.
Yes, it does. Why would you think otherwise? It's not "a phrase", it's a fundamental part of corporate law.
Well, first, sure it's a phrase. Second, I'm not a lawyer, so I apologize for talking out of ignorance. But here's an excerpt from nolo.com that sort of illustrates what I had in mind:
...you will remain personally liable for any wrongdoing you commit during the course of your LLC business. For example... if [you]: personally and directly injure someone during the course of business due to their negligence, intentionally do something fraudulent, illegal, or reckless during the course of business that causes harm... If both you and your LLC are found liable for an act you commit, then the LLC’s assets and your personal assets could be taken by creditors to satisfy the judgment. [from http://www.nolo.com/legal-ency...
Given that Peeple's business plan could be viewed as essentially an automation platform for libel, couldn't you make the case that it was an act of criminal negligence to set such a fearsome engine in motion in the first place, without the safeguards that were so obviously necessary?
Also, (and again, this isn't a qualified legal opinion), from where I stand as a layman, and from the stories I read in the press, it sometimes seems like the law is whatever the person with the most expensive legal team says it is.
Owners rake in advertising revenue, then shut down once the lawsuits become impossible to ignore and walk away rich.
Yeah. The thing about litigators is, they don't stop coming after you when you decide to "walk away". They only stop once you don't have any more money. I'm sure that this Peeple thing is set up as a corporation, and thus has "limited liability", but in practical terms I'm not sure that phrase really means anything anymore.
Before anyone gets confused by the headline, remember that superlatives are very different from laxatives.
Right. Laxatives are the ones that are taken orally; superlatives go in the other end.
We've been to Mars already, we've sent probes and robots.
Yes. And I've been to Paris, because one time I saw a picture of the Eiffel Tower.
I sometimes see those "if you like this site, please turn off your ad blocker" banners on sites that I do actually like.
So, a few times, I have turned off the ad blocker, just to see what would happen. The results are always either, one, incredibly intrusive and distracting autoplaying videos playing at random moments, or two, the site just stops working completely because, even on a medium-performance laptop with a business-class data connection, the web browser just can't handle the gigabytes and gigabytes of advertisements that the site is trying to push over the wire.
Maybe if there was a browser that let you opt out of loading, then autoplaying, enormous video files without plugins, I would consider it. But until then, the blocker stays on, thanks.
Khm, I wonder, why he is not following Kremlin's accounts. Just to, you know, hold Putin accountable...
Just because Russia is worse doesn't mean America isn't bad. If you really want to speak out against the abuses of the Medici, you're going to need the protection of the Borgias first. Hypocritical? Sure. But I'm afraid that's just how Renaissance Italy works.
The problem, as I see it, is that by doing it in Javascript, we're introducing a new dependency: the code will only work on a browser produced in 2015. That's because Javascript, as implemented in a browser, is itself is a moving target. Go on, just try to browse the modern web in Mozilla 1.0. Or Firefox 3.6. You'll find half the Javascript-dependent sites of 2015 simply doesn't work on older browsers.
Is that strictly relevant? I think the dependency we're really introducing is: the code will only work on a browser produced in 2015 or later. If an emulator was originally built for Firefox 41, five years from now I won't care whether or not it runs in Firefox 1.0 as long as it still runs in Firefox 2020.
Agreed, for the most part. Most of the posters seem to be angry because these emulators are browser-based, because apparently native or app-based emulators for forty-year-old game consoles whose killer app was a purple block that chases a cyan block are for real, legitimate, artistic visionaries, while browser-based versions are for dumb stupid babies.
This strikes me like a 45-year-old dude whose hobby is modelling 16th-century Spanish sailing ships in balsa-wood setting fire to the basement workshop of a 35-year old dude someone whose hobby is building 16th-century Portuguese sailing ships out of matchsticks after their parents naively set up a play-date for them.
I can't say I recall [Adware in the 1970s] being a thing.
Are you kidding? I remember that I couldn't read a magazine in the 1970's without seeing a bunch of pop-ups. There was one that was a bank robber picking up a big bag of money, and one that was a car that flew across the page, and one that was, like, green Kryptonite radiation waves...
...Actually, never mind. On further reflection, I think that may have been a popup book about Superman.
And here we see one of several fallacies applied to attack the US government and legal system at all costs, including conflation with child sex trade. We are one step away from somebody saying "Hitler was in favor of parallel construction"
Wait, you're saying that conflation with the child sex trade is a tactic mainly used against the U.S. executive branch? I think you may have that backwards. It's a testament to how screwed up things are that I legitimately have no idea whether you're trolling or not.
Hitler probably wasn't in favor of parallel construction, but only because he didn't need it.
You people keep acting like child sex slaves are something new, invented by Ariel Castro or something. It's a well-established practice, going back at least as far as as ancient Athens. Didn't you ever read Phaedrus? The idea is to help the child develop sexually under the guidance of a kind and caring elder, before they get all fat and hairy. In every case, a parent has to approve the argument that sooner or later their child was going to get buggered, so they might as well make a few bucks out of it. No coercion is involved. The relationship is mutually beneficial. If sold to a old man, a boy is free to buy his freedom at age 21, if he can afford it.
You're right, how could I be so foolish? Of course parallel construction isn't lying! Because:
I found out you were a fan of our local baseball team because I saw you at the ballpark last Tuesday night.
...is obviously 100% factually equivalent to:
I found out you were a fan of our local baseball team because I snuck into your house and hacked your computer and the only entries in your browser history were mlb.com/teams/townburg_bumblebees and horseporn.com/underage_colt_on_colt/tenatacles.mp4"
Stupid, silly, me! Thanks, kind stranger!
The basic problem here is that "parallel construction" equals "lying under oath". Once judges start accepting outright lies, it rots the (already slightly decayed) system right down to the core.
It's like when they're trying to indoctrinate you to be a terrorist, and they make you perform some unspeakably abominable act as your initiation. After that, you won't question your decision to join this iffy organization, because that would mean that you did this unforgivable thing, not for the greater good, but just because a bunch of assholes told you to. Which makes you yourself not only an asshole but also an idiot.
So these judges will not only accept lies as testimony, they will defend the practice to the death, to anyone who raises the very obvious point that you shouldn't base your system of justice on blatant lies. Otherwise they're assholes and idiots, and nobody wants to admit that they're an idiot asshole.
Since no one else is saying this exactly:
Yes, we should absolutely teach our students how a car works, and how to repair it. They will almost all need cars. They will almost all have cars. All of those cars will break down in some way, at some point.
If, as today, they don't know how the car works, they're going to get cheated by the mechanic. Mechanics try to charge you the most money possible every time you visit them. That is what they do. Even the relatively honest ones use bad statistics to get you to spend money to avert the very low-probability future risk of some relatively minor future inconvenience. The really crooked ones will eat you alive. It happens all day, every day.
It would be an excellent use of education funds to have a one-semester class on how to diagnose car problems.
The US and China Agree Not To Conduct Economic Espionage In Cyberspace
And what's more, they both agreed that they never had done anything like that before, not ever in history!
Isn't that swell?
There's also step 2.5 to be taken into consideration.
Step 2.5: Upon release, try to make a living without committing any crimes, realize that basic survival via legal employment is even further out of reach for a convicted felon than it is for a normal denizen of your already precarious economic background.
corporate welfare. This does nothing to help the people. Nothing.
Granted that this may not be the most efficient use of resources. But really, pretty much any advance in human knowledge either helps or hurts "the people" sooner or later. The chalk-stained mathematician who, after 300 years of failures, finally comes up with a proof of Gummidgy's Last Kerjigger may seem to have had no practical impact on society at large, but fast forward a hundred years and that abstract mathematical theory may show up in, like, the manufacturing process for the nanobot plague that's eating the solar system, or maybe in the hyperdrive that humanity uses to escape it.
Yet, here you are on a GNOME 3 thread like a jilted lover who still has feelings, but has to trash the ex.
Well, yeah, pretty much. I had deep feelings for Gnome 2, but then Gnome 3 betrayed my love, so of course I feel jilted.
Actually, now that I think about it, it's more like that Angelina Jolie movie where her kid got kidnapped, and then the police "found" this other kid and "returned" him to her, only she was like, "but that's not my son", and the police were like, "shut up, you stupid broad, of course it's your kid, stop trying to make us look bad, or we'll have you institutionalized."
In this analogy, I'm Angelina Jolie, Gnome 2 is my son, and Gnome 3 is some other random kid that, aside from being roughly the same size and color, isn't related to Gnome 2 in any way.
It's cute how he thinks no one thought about this and sanitized the audit trail.
I'm sure they tried to hide the evidence. I'd also be willing to bet they didn't get it all.
Everything in C++ is now deprecated except the word "safe". So you should really be using safesafe::safe_safe_safe in such situations. And in all other situations. When in doubt, just keep typing "safe" until it's safe.
Oh, great, another day, another crazy kookoo post about space travel.
LOOK, IDIOTS, what you're so conveniently forgetting is that there ARE no roads in space! There aren't even dirt ones, much less the multi-lane asphalt highways that we'd need to set up any sort of meaningful economy on Mars! Don't believe me? Look it up on Google Maps! If you go into the route planner and enter, say, "Chicago" in the one box and "Mars" in the destination box, you'll get ZERO results!
Oh, but the next thing you IDIOTS will tell me is that the point of this program is to BUILD a road to Mars. Bullshit! Nobody in their right mind would try to build a road in space! It's just too expensive! How are you going to get the asphalt out there? On a truck, right? HA! Right now you can't even so much as drive TO ORBIT! Much less to MARS! IDIOTS!
I am so sick of you Slashdot IDIOTS bothering me every day with this unrealistic GARBAGE. Space travel will NEVER make economic sense, and meanwhile you IDIOTS are wasting literally HALF of my taxes trying to make it work. Meanwhile, we COULD be spending that money on paying a professional sports team to come to my city. THAT would make economic sense! SO SHUT UP ABOUT THE UNIVERSE ALREADY!
GNOME 3 sent me to OSX.
You say you wanna know what Gnome 3 ever did to me? Gnome 3 sent me to a foreign land to fight a war I didn't start with people who never did me no wrong. It made me do terrible things, things I still can't talk about, not with anyone, not with God, not even with the Devil. It feels like part of me is still over there. It probably always will. That's what Gnome 3 did to me, Sonny Jim.
Seriously, though, Gnome 3 sucked the last time I looked at it. And by "the last time", I likely mean both the first time and the last time. Trust is a delicate thing. When you sleep with your spouse's best friend or add a "charms bar" to your UI, there's a good chance you won't ever really get back to where you were.
Prosecuting these hackers under the DMCA for stealing fingerprints would be like prosecuting a notorious gangster for, I don't know, tax evasion. It's ridiculous, and it would never happen.
4,000 miles had its own boot strap problem in tech taking centuries to get right.
This was kind of my point. The fact that these problems may take a while to get right is all the more reason to start working them out as soon as possible. But people want to throw up their hands and quit because they don't want to pay an infinitesimal fraction of their taxes toward figuring things out. Because space industry is not immediately profitable, they claim it never will or even can be: "OMG EVARYBODY NOS THAT THIS WILL NEVAR BE PROFITUBBLE IN A MILYUN YRS ITS A WASTE OF TIME!
Well, it's their money, and they're certainly entitled to weigh in on what NASA does with it. Meanwhile, these new Funny Nut Cheerios taste great.