The problem with Ron Paul, like most libertarians, is that he wants less government control over everyone. In reality, although all men are created equal, not all men end up with equal amounts of power. Those with the most power require the most checks on that power to prevent abuse.
The world doesn't work anything like you think it does....
I trust a "rule of thumb" that has been right for 47 years a lot more than I trust the many doomsday scenarios that has been wrong several times in the same time frame.
47 years.....lol.....a wink of a gnat compared to the whole sum of human history. 47 years is nothing.
All of which is irrelevant to the true question: should the government (or any other entity) be allowed to tell me what I can and can't build, on my own goddamn property, a mile away from an airport?
Forgot to say this in my last reply: if you read this, don't give up man. Big changes are coming, and we have wild times ahead. The old corrupt system will be swept away and replaced with a new, freer one. Things will get worse in the interim, but it's coming. Don't do anything dumb or violent. We need every good and able man on board for the times ahead. Just lay low.....stock up....be prepared. Make friends. Smoke some good pot and chill as much as possible. Keep an eye on the news, and laugh at the comic tragedy that is mankind......
"Jusitification" is for morons. Were the peasants in France "jusitified" when they executed thousands of aristocrats via guillotine? Doesn't matter--it happened regardless. When a gang of revoking youth identifies you as "one of them" and throws you up against the wall with the others, all the "justifications" and "explanations" and "reasoning" in the world won't save you.
How do you expect a population that has been lied to for literally their entire lives to consciously know all the wrong things the government is doing? They don't know. All they know is things are fucked up and they start drawing conclusions about who is responsible, and getting angrier and more violent all the time. Intentions are worthless and if wishes were horses.....all that matters is what happens. Either the government takes radical steps to address the people's needs, or mother fuckers start getting thrown up against walls and shot.
Do you see now why people's feelings do matter, regardless of whether not those people actually know the logical and rational reasons why they feel the way they do?
Thanks for chiming in bro. Your story is exactly what I was talking about. Ask the Occupy protestors why they're there, and you get a hundred different reasons. That does not equal no reason. There's far too many goddamn good reasons today to even keep track; pick one.
It's convenient that you can turn your brains off like that whenever you don't want to argue something on the merits, but it makes you look awfully stupid.
We've already fucking argued this on the merits, for centuries. Government intrusion into our lives = BAD. Our Founders figured this out after years of bloody years, and even wrote it all down on a helpful document for us (the Constitution)....which we then promptly ignored and continued down the same foolish, doomed path of increasing government power. It's gotten out of control and if you are unable to see what the GP sees, then maybe you need to inch your head out of your ass a few clicks and have a peek around. We're presently on the verge of global economic collapse, followed by WWIII, precisely because of this exact type of thing. Any time the government is given power, it's never given back and more is always taken, until it all crashes down in misery and disaster. Please, wake up.
I personally don't pick up a bacon cheese burger and think "now that looks healthy and nutritios"
I do.
Which is even even more reason to not want these stupid sons of bitches in my business. They've already gone for enough already. The FDA needs to abolished.
The Tea Party has been going through and cleaning out (to the degree they can) the Republican system, starting at the lowest levels. It will take time but over time the Republican party will become much more libertarian and less big government as a result. The Tea Party already had substantial impact in the last elections, especially in primaries, and frames the debate even today.
Back then, the country could afford another four years of calm, measured action. Today it absolutely cannot.
All of that, without people getting arrested, or breaking laws.
Don't break your hand patting yourself on the back. There's much more to this movement than just you and your ideas, you know. I commit felonies daily, on purpose. Big fucking deal, when the law is immoral bullshit not worthy of a free country.
You're trolling, but there is truth to the point that many of the people at the protests didn't even know why they were there.
Does that make their concerns any less valid?
It's so much harder to actually effect change by contacting politicians, convincing the public, studying the law, and generally having an impact on the legislative process so that something actually comes out of any of it.
Exactly. Especially when you don't even know exactly why you're so pissed off at society. Maybe you don't realize it's because you didn't like that cop's thuggish attitude the other day when he pulled you over for "weaving across lanes" and then pressured you into a drug search. Maybe subconsciously your mind is still pissed off from when the TSA hassled you at the airport. Maybe those taxes, and the 10x as many hidden taxes disguised as fees, charges, and a hundred other words are really fucking dragging you down. Maybe you don't appreciate the child services people harassing your neighbors because the dad got put in jail for possessing three marijuana plants.
Maybe it's all that and more. Not all of us are fucking scholars enough to understand exactly why we're pissed. Doesn't mean the anger isn't real, and doesn't mean it's just going to magically go away if we wish hard enough. If the same tyranny and oppressive bullshit remains in place, then the anger will continue to build, until it can't build any more. It's that simple. You don't want to be there when it explodes.
Then everybody on slashdot will get detained, probed and then TSA will request additional funding based on the spikes in detaining/probing/confiscations.
You seem to be arguing that the limit of this police function as x -> the readership of slashdot is near infinity, but I don't think that's anywhere near the case, based on these axioms: a) population of U.S. is less than infinity and b) the percentage of U.S. population which can be converted into police and guard to succesfully prosecute and imprison the rest before riots and revolution breaks out, is FAR less than 100%.
Exactly bro. To be fair, I don't blame the teachers themselves, but those who've come before them and set up this fucking system which rewards stupidity and incompetence and punishes free thinking and trying new things.
It has EVERYTHING to do with money. We pay teachers shit wages.
And yet there's millions of people out there who don't even have a job. Many of them are perfectly qualified and competent and willing to teach, but wouldn't be allowed anywhere near a school. Why?
That's getting closer to the root of the problem. Low teacher pay is only one tiny fraction of a percent of what's wrong with our school system.
I guess I was raised better then most in terms of respecting my elders.
You misspelled, "being a chump." Or "being a good obedient little worker drone." Most people who learn to succeed, also learn to deceive when necessary.
Yeah, I totally think we should hold all the kids back to the level of the slowest, dumbest, and poorest one. That totally worked so fucking well for me when I was the gifted kid.
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The problem with Ron Paul, like most libertarians, is that he wants less government control over everyone. In reality, although all men are created equal, not all men end up with equal amounts of power. Those with the most power require the most checks on that power to prevent abuse.
The world doesn't work anything like you think it does....
(I find it odd that we rarely talk about a "second world").
That's because the Second World aka the USSR collapsed 20 years ago.
I wore my Ron Paul shirt to McDonalds today. One guy asked me, "Who is Ron Paul?" I thought he was fucking with me, but he genuinely didn't know.
You can only slow it down
Exactly....which is why this legislation is pointless. The wheels of freedom are already turning world-wide.
Armies cannot stop an idea whose time has come.
I trust a "rule of thumb" that has been right for 47 years a lot more than I trust the many doomsday scenarios that has been wrong several times in the same time frame.
47 years.....lol.....a wink of a gnat compared to the whole sum of human history. 47 years is nothing.
You have a RUDE awakening ahead of you son....
All of which is irrelevant to the true question: should the government (or any other entity) be allowed to tell me what I can and can't build, on my own goddamn property, a mile away from an airport?
Army != Air Force
Dumb ass
Forgot to say this in my last reply: if you read this, don't give up man. Big changes are coming, and we have wild times ahead. The old corrupt system will be swept away and replaced with a new, freer one. Things will get worse in the interim, but it's coming. Don't do anything dumb or violent. We need every good and able man on board for the times ahead. Just lay low.....stock up....be prepared. Make friends. Smoke some good pot and chill as much as possible. Keep an eye on the news, and laugh at the comic tragedy that is mankind......
"Jusitification" is for morons. Were the peasants in France "jusitified" when they executed thousands of aristocrats via guillotine? Doesn't matter--it happened regardless. When a gang of revoking youth identifies you as "one of them" and throws you up against the wall with the others, all the "justifications" and "explanations" and "reasoning" in the world won't save you.
How do you expect a population that has been lied to for literally their entire lives to consciously know all the wrong things the government is doing? They don't know. All they know is things are fucked up and they start drawing conclusions about who is responsible, and getting angrier and more violent all the time. Intentions are worthless and if wishes were horses.....all that matters is what happens. Either the government takes radical steps to address the people's needs, or mother fuckers start getting thrown up against walls and shot.
Do you see now why people's feelings do matter, regardless of whether not those people actually know the logical and rational reasons why they feel the way they do?
Thanks for chiming in bro. Your story is exactly what I was talking about. Ask the Occupy protestors why they're there, and you get a hundred different reasons. That does not equal no reason. There's far too many goddamn good reasons today to even keep track; pick one.
Could we please have JUST ONE DISCUSSION on slashdot that doesn't devolve into potheads clamoring for their sacred weed?
As soon as it's legalized, sure. You can have as many discussions as you like without us potheads clamoring for our sacred weed.
We get it, you are addicted to drugs and have to get high to escape your mundane or painful reality. Great. Stop talking about it. Nobody else cares.
You're a moron
They didn't know why they were there!
Right. But does that mean they were there for no reason?
I'm a joke? You're a moron who thinks his conscious mind represents everything his mind is capable of.
The wonderful thing about this prediction is that it is testable.
It's wrong though, because this model failed to take into account the likely imminent (next 1-2 years) outbreak of WW3.
It's convenient that you can turn your brains off like that whenever you don't want to argue something on the merits, but it makes you look awfully stupid.
We've already fucking argued this on the merits, for centuries. Government intrusion into our lives = BAD. Our Founders figured this out after years of bloody years, and even wrote it all down on a helpful document for us (the Constitution)....which we then promptly ignored and continued down the same foolish, doomed path of increasing government power. It's gotten out of control and if you are unable to see what the GP sees, then maybe you need to inch your head out of your ass a few clicks and have a peek around. We're presently on the verge of global economic collapse, followed by WWIII, precisely because of this exact type of thing. Any time the government is given power, it's never given back and more is always taken, until it all crashes down in misery and disaster. Please, wake up.
I personally don't pick up a bacon cheese burger and think "now that looks healthy and nutritios"
I do.
Which is even even more reason to not want these stupid sons of bitches in my business. They've already gone for enough already. The FDA needs to abolished.
The Tea Party has been going through and cleaning out (to the degree they can) the Republican system, starting at the lowest levels. It will take time but over time the Republican party will become much more libertarian and less big government as a result. The Tea Party already had substantial impact in the last elections, especially in primaries, and frames the debate even today.
Back then, the country could afford another four years of calm, measured action. Today it absolutely cannot.
All of that, without people getting arrested, or breaking laws.
Don't break your hand patting yourself on the back. There's much more to this movement than just you and your ideas, you know. I commit felonies daily, on purpose. Big fucking deal, when the law is immoral bullshit not worthy of a free country.
You're trolling, but there is truth to the point that many of the people at the protests didn't even know why they were there.
Does that make their concerns any less valid?
It's so much harder to actually effect change by contacting politicians, convincing the public, studying the law, and generally having an impact on the legislative process so that something actually comes out of any of it.
Exactly. Especially when you don't even know exactly why you're so pissed off at society. Maybe you don't realize it's because you didn't like that cop's thuggish attitude the other day when he pulled you over for "weaving across lanes" and then pressured you into a drug search. Maybe subconsciously your mind is still pissed off from when the TSA hassled you at the airport. Maybe those taxes, and the 10x as many hidden taxes disguised as fees, charges, and a hundred other words are really fucking dragging you down. Maybe you don't appreciate the child services people harassing your neighbors because the dad got put in jail for possessing three marijuana plants.
Maybe it's all that and more. Not all of us are fucking scholars enough to understand exactly why we're pissed. Doesn't mean the anger isn't real, and doesn't mean it's just going to magically go away if we wish hard enough. If the same tyranny and oppressive bullshit remains in place, then the anger will continue to build, until it can't build any more. It's that simple. You don't want to be there when it explodes.
Then everybody on slashdot will get detained, probed and then TSA will request additional funding based on the spikes in detaining/probing/confiscations.
You seem to be arguing that the limit of this police function as x -> the readership of slashdot is near infinity, but I don't think that's anywhere near the case, based on these axioms: a) population of U.S. is less than infinity and b) the percentage of U.S. population which can be converted into police and guard to succesfully prosecute and imprison the rest before riots and revolution breaks out, is FAR less than 100%.
No true Scotsman
Exactly bro. To be fair, I don't blame the teachers themselves, but those who've come before them and set up this fucking system which rewards stupidity and incompetence and punishes free thinking and trying new things.
It has EVERYTHING to do with money. We pay teachers shit wages.
And yet there's millions of people out there who don't even have a job. Many of them are perfectly qualified and competent and willing to teach, but wouldn't be allowed anywhere near a school. Why?
That's getting closer to the root of the problem. Low teacher pay is only one tiny fraction of a percent of what's wrong with our school system.
I guess I was raised better then most in terms of respecting my elders.
You misspelled, "being a chump." Or "being a good obedient little worker drone." Most people who learn to succeed, also learn to deceive when necessary.
Yeah, I totally think we should hold all the kids back to the level of the slowest, dumbest, and poorest one. That totally worked so fucking well for me when I was the gifted kid.