Nice way to return the respect due to the person that helped give you life.
These trolls are annoying. If you ignore my opinion regarding what is going to serve you best and purchase something more difficult to use and maintain, don't call me asking me to help you use or maintain it.
It's that simple, don't bring in the ``helped give you life'' bullshit. I'm not obligated to help my mom do everything she ever asks, especially when she has specifically ignored my advice and continues to go down that path.
Just out of interest, have you ever tried to solve any problems that were not inherently recursive (e.g. traversing a tree) using a functional language? Maybe I was just young and inexperienced but I really did find it to be a serious bitch!
What is traversing a tree if not recursive? Here's what I do in OCaml:
I use that in an app that finds all files that meet certain criteria and performs an operation on them. It's a very straight-forward process. It also seems to be quite efficient.
Pretty much anything that loops can be considered recursive though. Take a look at my iteri implementation in OCaml:
You're doing video on a powerbook harddrive?! You know that Apple uses 4200 and 5400 RPM harddrives in it's laptops. That's way too slow to do video capturing of any decent quality.
I'll keep that in mind and do my best to inform everyone else who does the same that the work they're doing is not, in fact, possible.
Anyone know how to make GUI programming more interesting?
Yeah, use cocoa or gnustep or whatever (assuming interfacebuilder is there, I haven't looked in a while). I hated GUI work before I finally discovered the NeXTSTEP way.
What I don't understand is why this situation is not corrected. What I mean is, why have we not yet moved to a programing methodology that deals with this right from the start?
Why don't we have a programing method that encourages a predicable UI?
Why isn't it easier for programmers to default to having all configuration done through a single, predictable configuration interface?
You're describing NeXTSTEP. When you make UIs on OS X, there are guidelines to get the UI working correctly.
Really, that's all that's needed. A standard. Guidelines. Oh, and everyone to use the NeXT frameworks (or at least one something).
My two powerbooks have 60GB of disk each. That's more than enough space for editing a couple of hours of video in Final Cut Pro 4 using OfflineRT.
That's more of a hobby for me, though. I'm a software developer by trade. I do mostly large server work (I'm a UNIX guy), but I develop desktop apps as well. Then again, the desktop apps are mostly hobby work as well...stuff like video delivery systems and monitoring apps.
I realize the post I'm responding to is a troll who can't even be bothered to see that the smallest hard drive Apple even sells in a powerbook is 40GB, and that's only in a 12" where nobody does video editing anyway.
Even though web-bbs are slower, they sure are more pleasant to use than ancient-tech mailing list. That's especially true when someone sends a virus to the list.
You must have a horrible mail reader. For me, it's clicking on my Lists/Caml folder and flipping through topics, then clicking on my Lists/Erlang folder and clicking through topics, seeing only the messages I haven't already read or didn't want to remember, and then deleting the rest with the exact same UI. It's also the same speed. Every message takes me exactly as long to open regardless of conditions on the internet or somebody's remote server. I get to sort, search, and generally organize messages consistently across all lists. My mail reader automatically allows me to take the stuff offline so I can read it with no connectivity.
With web forums, I have to go there...like, to each one I'm interested in. Some of them don't have searches (and some that do, don't have useful ones). I have no way to mark a message as interesting other than bookmarking, which sucks when people rearrange parts of their site. When I post a question, I have to remember to keep polling the site(s) to see if an answer was submitted.
Sometimes it takes me days to get back to the exact place I posted the question. In fact, just last night, I made it back to a forum I'd posted some questions ten months ago with some responses from someone asking for some clarification (responses in addition to ones I saw then).
One person's blog topic is another's secret sometimes. There's a big diference to information to give to your family and information you should be leaving within view of Google... but some people don't realize that yet.
People who want to put private information up on a public network with no authentication and expect the stuff to remain private are seriously not thinking. If you don't want people to see stuff...don't leave it out in plain sight.
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How is this funny? Pinging IPv4 address with IPv6? If you're going to make a joke, at least get it right.
I took a tour of my friends' house in Australia recently. I only get to see them every couple years.
When we were roomates, we'd sit on the couch for hours doing stuff, occasionally looking over and saying something. We can do that again (though the scheduling isn't as easy).
You know, last time I was doing a video chat with my friends in Australia, I had the audio drop out a couple times for a few seconds. This mainly happened during a file transfer (I have IDSL, which puts me at the bottom of the requirements for video chat).
I thought this was a bit annoying, but then I remembered the last time I used my mobile phone...
Slow is a worthlessly objective word. If it's fast enough for what you do with it, it's not slow.
Personally, I LOVE Java as a pedagogical tool to aid in teaching computer science
This is a place I don't believe java fits. 1.5 is adding some nice stuff, but it's not something I would consider a well-designed language. It's good enough for corporate use, but there are a lot of things that are just stupid in java.
Scheme is good for teaching (and general use). Haskell is also excellent. OCaml teaches some pretty good stuff as well (not to mention being incredibly fast at execution time). Eiffel is an excellent teacher.
Java is sort of the English of programming languages. It's hard to learn, not very elegant, you see examples of it everywhere that sicken you with their brokenness, but everyone seems to want to use it for everything.
You probably need a NAT since you will have many people needing IP addresses, unless you want to get a subnet prefix from your ISP (at $7k that isn't likely). So at least one NAT box is needed.
I get a/28 through earthlink, and I'm fairly sure I haven't given them $7,000.
That method of user/password should have never been alowed in the first place. Sure its easy but come on, yah broadcasting your username and password to every node along the way is such a good idea, saves some trouble of pharseing the html. not to mention any spyware that sends back what you type into the adress bar
It's a business requirement here...at least it was. We have approximately 1.8 million web servers that each have a distinct username and password and a variable IP address (DHCP) people go to. Basically, you find the thing you're looking for through a management system, and it provides you a URL with the username and password for that device.
The username and password are constant for a device, both are generated at manufacturing time (username is serial, password is random). Since the IP address changes along with it, basically all three are required to authenticate, and only the management system knows all three at any point in time.
Here's an example URL (modified slightly to protect the innocent):
Now, as far as I can tell, this patch is marked as ``critical,'' which means we've got to have people start to enter all of that stuff in manually until we come up with an alternative solution.
That costs $300 to $500 fricken dollars. That is a lot of clams to just share your desktop. You can share your desktop under Linux and MS Windows XP for free.
It does a lot more than desktop sharing. If you just want to share your desktop, use VNC (which is free).
But that said, you're unfairly biasing the comparison by not using X11 and free software.
I stopped using X when terminal got good enough (and I got used to click-to-focus). My wife still uses it quite a bit, but I'm mostly moz+mail+vim.
For example, I have a custom-built Postfix install with TLS support on my laptop, using client certificates to authenticate to my home MTA: perfect mail relaying no matter where I am. And it lets me tell Mail.app to just use the localhost as an SMTP server. Now I get good S/MIME and GnuPG support, in-line spelling checking, and a nice UI *and* the technical features I want. AND, since it's standard-based IMAP, I can hand that system off
Wow, I have the exact same setup on an ibook I usually use when I travel (not sure what you meant by the IMAP part, I connect to my IMAP server back home over TLS). I set it up as a wireless base station with a mail relay when we're at relatives houses or what-not.
I might guess not, considering that he's not using any GUI apps that it would be practical to create PDF's from.
Until OS X, I created all the pdfs I've distributed from LaTeX, written in vi. I still do, but since every app will make pdfs in OS X, I sometimes make them from other apps now as one-offs. The best pdfs I've seen were done in pdf.
I don't have the licenses in front of me, but I do have open source video players to do a sort of litmus test. The latest quicktime video I downloaded from Apple's site (the remake of the 1984 ad at 640x480, mpeg4) plays perfectly fine in VLC, while any WM9 file I've ever seen only plays in Windows Media Player (for me).
If WM is so open and QT is so proprietary, why do I have more choice in QT players (including open source) than WM?
I and my team write software that's never seen outside the headquarters...
At my previous company, we had a few patent complaints against us where people were making assumptions about our internal processes. It cost us lots of time and money.
Point is, they don't even have to see you violating the patent. It's kind of a ``They're in the business of X, so they *must* be doing Y.''
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Nice way to return the respect due to the person that helped give you life.
These trolls are annoying. If you ignore my opinion regarding what is going to serve you best and purchase something more difficult to use and maintain, don't call me asking me to help you use or maintain it.
It's that simple, don't bring in the ``helped give you life'' bullshit. I'm not obligated to help my mom do everything she ever asks, especially when she has specifically ignored my advice and continues to go down that path.
Just out of interest, have you ever tried to solve any problems that were not inherently recursive (e.g. traversing a tree) using a functional language? Maybe I was just young and inexperienced but I really did find it to be a serious bitch!
What is traversing a tree if not recursive? Here's what I do in OCaml:
walk_dir to walk directory trees.
I use that in an app that finds all files that meet certain criteria and performs an operation on them. It's a very straight-forward process. It also seems to be quite efficient.
Pretty much anything that loops can be considered recursive though. Take a look at my iteri implementation in OCaml:
extlist. (click on iteri for the code).
BTW, don't worry if you can't read the OCaml documentation just yet. It's very easy to read after spending a brief amount of time in OCaml.
You're doing video on a powerbook harddrive?! You know that Apple uses 4200 and 5400 RPM harddrives in it's laptops. That's way too slow to do video capturing of any decent quality.
I'll keep that in mind and do my best to inform everyone else who does the same that the work they're doing is not, in fact, possible.
Anyone know how to make GUI programming more interesting?
Yeah, use cocoa or gnustep or whatever (assuming interfacebuilder is there, I haven't looked in a while). I hated GUI work before I finally discovered the NeXTSTEP way.
What I don't understand is why this situation is not corrected. What I mean is, why have we not yet moved to a programing methodology that deals with this right from the start?
Why don't we have a programing method that encourages a predicable UI?
Why isn't it easier for programmers to default to having all configuration done through a single, predictable configuration interface?
You're describing NeXTSTEP. When you make UIs on OS X, there are guidelines to get the UI working correctly.
Really, that's all that's needed. A standard. Guidelines. Oh, and everyone to use the NeXT frameworks (or at least one something).
you realize this works just as easily on a pc?
Really? The standard Windows DVD player will play a VIDEO_TS folder with with full menus and everything from any location?
My two powerbooks have 60GB of disk each. That's more than enough space for editing a couple of hours of video in Final Cut Pro 4 using OfflineRT.
That's more of a hobby for me, though. I'm a software developer by trade. I do mostly large server work (I'm a UNIX guy), but I develop desktop apps as well. Then again, the desktop apps are mostly hobby work as well...stuff like video delivery systems and monitoring apps.
I realize the post I'm responding to is a troll who can't even be bothered to see that the smallest hard drive Apple even sells in a powerbook is 40GB, and that's only in a 12" where nobody does video editing anyway.
my tinfoil hat doubles as a Faraday cage
Do you mean to suggest that they're generally worn only for fashion?
Even though web-bbs are slower, they sure are more pleasant to use than ancient-tech mailing list. That's especially true when someone sends a virus to the list.
You must have a horrible mail reader. For me, it's clicking on my Lists/Caml folder and flipping through topics, then clicking on my Lists/Erlang folder and clicking through topics, seeing only the messages I haven't already read or didn't want to remember, and then deleting the rest with the exact same UI. It's also the same speed. Every message takes me exactly as long to open regardless of conditions on the internet or somebody's remote server. I get to sort, search, and generally organize messages consistently across all lists. My mail reader automatically allows me to take the stuff offline so I can read it with no connectivity.
With web forums, I have to go there...like, to each one I'm interested in. Some of them don't have searches (and some that do, don't have useful ones). I have no way to mark a message as interesting other than bookmarking, which sucks when people rearrange parts of their site. When I post a question, I have to remember to keep polling the site(s) to see if an answer was submitted.
Sometimes it takes me days to get back to the exact place I posted the question. In fact, just last night, I made it back to a forum I'd posted some questions ten months ago with some responses from someone asking for some clarification (responses in addition to ones I saw then).
How is this more pleasant?
One person's blog topic is another's secret sometimes. There's a big diference to information to give to your family and information you should be leaving within view of Google... but some people don't realize that yet.
People who want to put private information up on a public network with no authentication and expect the stuff to remain private are seriously not thinking. If you don't want people to see stuff...don't leave it out in plain sight.
How is this funny? Pinging IPv4 address with IPv6? If you're going to make a joke, at least get it right.
I took a tour of my friends' house in Australia recently. I only get to see them every couple years.
When we were roomates, we'd sit on the couch for hours doing stuff, occasionally looking over and saying something. We can do that again (though the scheduling isn't as easy).
2. Reliability
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3. Quality of Service
You know, last time I was doing a video chat with my friends in Australia, I had the audio drop out a couple times for a few seconds. This mainly happened during a file transfer (I have IDSL, which puts me at the bottom of the requirements for video chat).
I thought this was a bit annoying, but then I remembered the last time I used my mobile phone...
Come to the realization friends; Java IS slow.
Slow is a worthlessly objective word. If it's fast enough for what you do with it, it's not slow.
Personally, I LOVE Java as a pedagogical tool to aid in teaching computer science
This is a place I don't believe java fits. 1.5 is adding some nice stuff, but it's not something I would consider a well-designed language. It's good enough for corporate use, but there are a lot of things that are just stupid in java.
Scheme is good for teaching (and general use). Haskell is also excellent. OCaml teaches some pretty good stuff as well (not to mention being incredibly fast at execution time). Eiffel is an excellent teacher.
Java is sort of the English of programming languages. It's hard to learn, not very elegant, you see examples of it everywhere that sicken you with their brokenness, but everyone seems to want to use it for everything.
You probably need a NAT since you will have many people needing IP addresses, unless you want to get a subnet prefix from your ISP (at $7k that isn't likely). So at least one NAT box is needed.
/28 through earthlink, and I'm fairly sure I haven't given them $7,000.
I get a
NAT is the devil.
That method of user/password should have never been alowed in the first place. Sure its easy but come on, yah broadcasting your username and password to every node along the way is such a good idea, saves some trouble of pharseing the html. not to mention any spyware that sends back what you type into the adress bar
3 D@ 10.11.12.13:1415/path/
It's a business requirement here...at least it was. We have approximately 1.8 million web servers that each have a distinct username and password and a variable IP address (DHCP) people go to. Basically, you find the thing you're looking for through a management system, and it provides you a URL with the username and password for that device.
The username and password are constant for a device, both are generated at manufacturing time (username is serial, password is random). Since the IP address changes along with it, basically all three are required to authenticate, and only the management system knows all three at any point in time.
Here's an example URL (modified slightly to protect the innocent):
https://838092393582:lMF82SgiMNHWKUORiQ1TbQ%3D%
Now, as far as I can tell, this patch is marked as ``critical,'' which means we've got to have people start to enter all of that stuff in manually until we come up with an alternative solution.
This looks like a good start:
http://homepage.mac.com/kedoin/VNC/VNCViewer/
2.) If it's backed up, it can be restored.
This is not a statement that should be generally considered true. Many things can go wrong between backup and restore.
Not that that should prevent you from backing up every way you can think of.
That costs $300 to $500 fricken dollars. That is a lot of clams to just share your desktop. You can share your desktop under Linux and MS Windows XP for free.
It does a lot more than desktop sharing. If you just want to share your desktop, use VNC (which is free).
But that said, you're unfairly biasing the comparison by not using X11 and free software.
I stopped using X when terminal got good enough (and I got used to click-to-focus). My wife still uses it quite a bit, but I'm mostly moz+mail+vim.
For example, I have a custom-built Postfix install with TLS support on my laptop, using client certificates to authenticate to my home MTA: perfect mail relaying no matter where I am. And it lets me tell Mail.app to just use the localhost as an SMTP server. Now I get good S/MIME and GnuPG support, in-line spelling checking, and a nice UI *and* the technical features I want. AND, since it's standard-based IMAP, I can hand that system off
Wow, I have the exact same setup on an ibook I usually use when I travel (not sure what you meant by the IMAP part, I connect to my IMAP server back home over TLS). I set it up as a wireless base station with a mail relay when we're at relatives houses or what-not.
I might guess not, considering that he's not using any GUI apps that it would be practical to create PDF's from.
Until OS X, I created all the pdfs I've distributed from LaTeX, written in vi. I still do, but since every app will make pdfs in OS X, I sometimes make them from other apps now as one-offs. The best pdfs I've seen were done in pdf.
If you want proprietary get a Mac and Quicktime.
That sounds really strange to me.
I don't have the licenses in front of me, but I do have open source video players to do a sort of litmus test. The latest quicktime video I downloaded from Apple's site (the remake of the 1984 ad at 640x480, mpeg4) plays perfectly fine in VLC, while any WM9 file I've ever seen only plays in Windows Media Player (for me).
If WM is so open and QT is so proprietary, why do I have more choice in QT players (including open source) than WM?
While anything you buy from iTunes can be played on a wonderful variety of devices:
1) iPod
2) iPod Mini
3) There's no #3
3) My powerbooks (home and work)
3a) My wife's and daughters' computers.
4) My slimp3.
5) My CD player in my car.
I and my team write software that's never seen outside the headquarters...
At my previous company, we had a few patent complaints against us where people were making assumptions about our internal processes. It cost us lots of time and money.
Point is, they don't even have to see you violating the patent. It's kind of a ``They're in the business of X, so they *must* be doing Y.''
Isn't it strange to hear quotes from people at the RIAA that don't sound stupid?
Everything seems less stupid between SCO posts.