Candidates Arnold Shwarzenegger and Larry Flynt surely haven't been asked the vital "Vi or Emacs?" question, and would probably give you a blank stare in reply if it came up.
That's because anyone with an answer has probably never had oral sex.
Now let's put it in perspective. $45.5M wouldn't be bad for 3 months (this is as long as iTMS has been out so far and what the 6.5M download figure is ostensibly based on), it would actually be $182M annually on all platforms if Apple retained close to 100% of the market for an entire year. However, the company had total net sales last year of $5.47 billion - even dominating close to 100% of the present theoretical paid music download market would account for only another 3.3% revenue for the company!
You're confusing profit and revenue. Do the math again. When you're done multiplying by three, factor in all of the iPods that wil be sold. Then factor in the intangible benefit of being the first successful online music venue. What effect do you think that has on brand? How many people care about Apple products that never did before? iTMS's importance to One Infinite Loop is huge. Eventually, it will be a very significant portion of revenue. Especially when it comes out for Windows.
The Macintosh was like dumbed down and with some really stupid concepts
Sounds like System 9, which was honestly pretty bad. OSX has leapt past most modern OSes. It makes sense. Little kids can use it, and UNIX freaks love it.
Cadillacs are mushy big boats for geriatrics.
True, although the '76 El Dorado convertable is a sweeeet ride.
Mac users do get uppity about their computers. They paid more for them, and they usually work better than the equivilent Windows computer. They also look nicer, and have better fit & finish, speaking generally. Like BMW owners, Mac users can be snobs. I'm not one of those, although I love my Mac. My point was don't knock it until you've tried it, unless "it" is crack cocaine.
Back to romper room, son; you don't belong in the real world. Though I do find it funny that I started to reply less than five minutes after your post, and by the time I hit preview you're already modded down to 0, flamebait. But it's just that all of slashdot is wrong, I take it?
1. The guy was telling the newly unemployed to invest in the market. Makes him an idiot, and you an idiot for defending him.
2. There will be nowhere near enough jobs absorbed in India to bring a living wage to an American looking for work there. You already agreed on this! Why are you still arguing? Is your D&D club starting late, and you have some extra time before reorganizing your porn?
3. I don't care where you've been, or what you've seen, or what you think of me. I curse online because I curse in real life. It's how I talk when I get upset. It's how real people talk.
4. My stats were from the World Almanac. I didn't link to them, because I am lazy, and have work to do. Look it up yourself.
5. Ooh, "Romper Room"! Good one. Your insults suck, you're not funny, and you come off like a nerd. You know that already, though, because you have a hard time talking to good-looking people face-to-face. Don't bother defending yourself, I won't believe you, and no one else is paying attention.
6. I guess I did get modded down. Big deal. When you post at +1, your comments have more visibility, and tend to get modded down if they have profanity and insults in them. I really don't give a fuck, because this is only an internet news site, and like I said, I already post at +1. If you follow the comment moderation, some of my remarks got modded five times or so, both ways, up and down. They are thought provoking, inflammatory, and controversial. It's called "good writing". Check it out next time you're on the john.
living beyond your means for years before it finally catches up to you is *not* a "hardship" deserving of pity.
The people in question have lost thier jobs. The economy is in the worst state it has been in for years. To assume that if they had just clipped coupons, they would be alright is ridiculous. When you have two children, a car payment and a mortgage, you are living well within your means. What happens when you have to make ends meet on $400/wk unemployment? Your savings disappear before long, and your house gets forclosed upon. What do you imagine life to be like a year down the road, still with no job?
The grandparent's assumption that software developers drove around Ferarris and threw money out the window during the 90s is inaccurate and childish. It's also silly to assume that most people have enough in savings to live for a year or two without work. I am currently living well within my means, but three months without a job, and I would be fucked. That savings is supposed to be for retirement, not to subsist on because a greedy corporation moved your job someplace where labor laws and salaries were sub-par.
The first signs of a pussy defending someone else on the internet. The guy was being a real asshole, and using retarded logic like "Unemployed people should just invest in the companies that fired them". So, I called him an idiot. Can't take the heat? Then fuck off.
Because clearly, the entire billion-strong population of India are computer programmers. Also, because Visual C++ has such wonderful Hindi support, as well as the other 17 languages recognized by their constitution.
Also, there's such a strong tech sector there, and they've all got such easy access to PCs.
Two paragraphs of sarcasm make you look like a pretentious jackass. Say what you mean, or shut up. India has a very, very strong tech sector, jackass. In this very thread there was mention of IBM India employing 10,000 people. As early as 1998, there was already a white-collar tech middle-class forming in tech cities such as Bangalore and Bangladesh. These cities are now overrun with Mercedes-Benzes. Well, relatively speaking, anyway. So, there is an exploding tech sector in central Asia. I know this, you do not. You are wrong, and you lose.
He didn't say they'd go up to American salaries, but he's right, they certainly will go up; this is just how supply and demand works.
Ooh, really? Got any other Frosh Economics tidbits to sprinkle on us from above, Professor? No shit there's going to be increased wages in India. However, it would take hundreds of millions of tech jobs to create a dent in the Indian workforce, 60% of which is agricultural. SIXTY percent. The tech industry is booming, for India. Enough to take away our jobs, but not enough to bring the lifestyle of an immigrating American to even close to what he expects here. Waiting for our jobs to move to India, and then moving there ourselves is a rotten, poorly-thought-out idea with no basis in fact or reality. Congrats on defending it. You're awesome.
Do some research before calling bullshit.
I'm going to let that little gem just hang out and stew in the middle of the page, because the longer it sits there, the smarter I feel.
Please stop jumping on posts you clearly don't grok.
Read his response to me, and then hang your head in shame for a while. Tee hee!
I really can't feel too sorry for people who lived outside of their means, and now lost their job, without having sufficient savings or sufficient skills to find a new one.
It's coldhearted bastards like you that make the world worse. Hurry up and die.
The music sounds so much better than it does if you download it for free on P2P, go out and get CDs at the library for free, or pay full retail for CDs....
No, it sounds 'bout the same. Just like a steak tastes the same cooked at home as it does at a fancy steak restaraunt. It's the experience that makes it worthwhile.
any more than people who haven't bought a Cadillac have any business mocking the kind of tards who buy them and think they're getting unsurpassable quality in a car
If you've never driven a Cadillac, yet feel the need to mock those who do, you're the idiot. Drive it, and maybe you'll understand why, or maybe not. But until then, you should probably keep your mouth shut.
OK, I don't mean to be rude, but you're an idiot. Here's why:
Once enough of these jobs are located in India, the wages companies will have to offer Indian workers will rise.
You know there's almost a billion people in India, right? And even with our current job situation in the US, wages have fallen through the floor. How many of these jobs do expect to be created in India? 100 million? Think.
Damn those corporations with their Congress-bought laws that prevent Joe Sixpack from joining the New Elite by, umm... opening up a brokerage account, hey, that was easy
Remember: JOE SIXPACK NO LONGER HAS A JOB. Sory for yelling, but how do expect someone whose job has moved to India to buy shares in the company that moved it there? Are you crazy? I mean, seriously, get your head out of your ass. And while you're at it, stop being so condescending to people who are obviously worried about their livelyhood. Remember what happened to the first person to say "let them eat cake".
They should be stopped when they try to download the song, which is the only thing that really requires the use of IE and WMP.
Says you. Perhaps, during focus groups, users were angered that they had filled up a shopping cart of songs, or had searched high and low for a particular track, only to be denied at the last minute. "Why did they let me go through all that when they knew I wouldn't be able to download the song anyway?".
It's more like checking your Sam's Club membership card at the door, instead of at the register.
No, no it's not. Where should they be stopped? Right before they start to download a tune? With a giant browser crash? How about apologizing to them when they call up and complain that they can't download the song?
It's more like having not having a handicapped ramp in front of the Stairmaster.
I don't make it impossible to get to my site by putting in browser-checks, like these folks have.
I think their ie-only stance sucks, too, but they have no choice. They must use an ActiveX control in the browser in order to implement their DRM scheme (which I also think sucks). So, instead of processing returns for customers that download and buy music in another broser, only to have the music arrive encrypted, they'd rather just stop all that at the door.
Compare their computer sales, to their song sales. Which do you think is more important to them?
Probably both. At 6.5 million songs sold, iTunesMS is probably not just the most successful online music venture, but also the most successful internet venture in history.
A lot of liberals don't understand that if we set the precedent that attacking us will get you what you want, we are opening ourselves up for more "demands."
Not only that, but what about conflicting demands? Even if we could be completely non-offensive to one group of terrorists, we're going to end up pissing off some other group. What do we do then? Obey the terrorists with better guns?
Answer the question. Why did those nineteen people get into such a state of hopelessness that they chose to take their own lives rather than try and fix things?
Is it okay if I answer the question with a question?:
WHO GIVES A FUCK?
Did you also put a lot of thought into why Tim McVey brought down the Oklahoma City Municipal building? When an abortion clinic is bombed, do you implore the doctors' families to give Pro Life a chance? I'm going to ignore your Chinese soldiers analogy, because it's crap, and another poster already dealt with it.
Terrorists are animals, and frankly, I don't give a shit what their stupid beef is. Once you bring down lower Manhattan, you have lost my ear, Mr. Shitbrain Terrorist Fuckwad.
I'm rather inclined to believe that your attitude that they'd better just get used to it is a major contributing factor in why those people died.
I'm rather inclined to believe it was the planes, filled with innocent people, crashing into buildings.
what's your problem with acknowledging that these kind of people do exist, and that as long as we make ourselves a target, they will target us?
They will target us forever, champ. Forever. Doesn't matter what we do or don't do. Ask any of the dozens of countries who have lost innocent lives to terrorism. We "make ourselves a target" just by breathing Saudi air. Are we no longer allowed to have a presence in the Middle East? Is there anything else the fundamentalists have declared that we aren't allowed to do? Are we still allowed to eat pork? Pandering wimps like you are why Muslim extremists topple buildings. Because they think they're going to get results. You can go ahead and get their lunch order. I will be just fine with killing every single terrorist. Don't think it can be done? Meet any Iriqois lately?
Incidentally, I've been out of college for a long, long time.
Maybe it's time to take a refresher course, then, guy.
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You mean like the London Symphony? Yeah, those dudes are hacks. ;)
Amen.
+3 Funny. Not bad for an unfunny joke that didn't make sense.
Candidates Arnold Shwarzenegger and Larry Flynt surely haven't been asked the vital "Vi or Emacs?" question, and would probably give you a blank stare in reply if it came up.
That's because anyone with an answer has probably never had oral sex.
Now let's put it in perspective. $45.5M wouldn't be bad for 3 months (this is as long as iTMS has been out so far and what the 6.5M download figure is ostensibly based on), it would actually be $182M annually on all platforms if Apple retained close to 100% of the market for an entire year. However, the company had total net sales last year of $5.47 billion - even dominating close to 100% of the present theoretical paid music download market would account for only another 3.3% revenue for the company!
You're confusing profit and revenue. Do the math again. When you're done multiplying by three, factor in all of the iPods that wil be sold. Then factor in the intangible benefit of being the first successful online music venue. What effect do you think that has on brand? How many people care about Apple products that never did before? iTMS's importance to One Infinite Loop is huge. Eventually, it will be a very significant portion of revenue. Especially when it comes out for Windows.
The Macintosh was like dumbed down and with some really stupid concepts
Sounds like System 9, which was honestly pretty bad. OSX has leapt past most modern OSes. It makes sense. Little kids can use it, and UNIX freaks love it.
Cadillacs are mushy big boats for geriatrics.
True, although the '76 El Dorado convertable is a sweeeet ride.
Mac users do get uppity about their computers. They paid more for them, and they usually work better than the equivilent Windows computer. They also look nicer, and have better fit & finish, speaking generally. Like BMW owners, Mac users can be snobs. I'm not one of those, although I love my Mac. My point was don't knock it until you've tried it, unless "it" is crack cocaine.
Back to romper room, son; you don't belong in the real world. Though I do find it funny that I started to reply less than five minutes after your post, and by the time I hit preview you're already modded down to 0, flamebait. But it's just that all of slashdot is wrong, I take it?
1. The guy was telling the newly unemployed to invest in the market. Makes him an idiot, and you an idiot for defending him.
2. There will be nowhere near enough jobs absorbed in India to bring a living wage to an American looking for work there. You already agreed on this! Why are you still arguing? Is your D&D club starting late, and you have some extra time before reorganizing your porn?
3. I don't care where you've been, or what you've seen, or what you think of me. I curse online because I curse in real life. It's how I talk when I get upset. It's how real people talk.
4. My stats were from the World Almanac. I didn't link to them, because I am lazy, and have work to do. Look it up yourself.
5. Ooh, "Romper Room"! Good one. Your insults suck, you're not funny, and you come off like a nerd. You know that already, though, because you have a hard time talking to good-looking people face-to-face. Don't bother defending yourself, I won't believe you, and no one else is paying attention.
6. I guess I did get modded down. Big deal. When you post at +1, your comments have more visibility, and tend to get modded down if they have profanity and insults in them. I really don't give a fuck, because this is only an internet news site, and like I said, I already post at +1. If you follow the comment moderation, some of my remarks got modded five times or so, both ways, up and down. They are thought provoking, inflammatory, and controversial. It's called "good writing". Check it out next time you're on the john.
Peace out, champ.
living beyond your means for years before it finally catches up to you is *not* a "hardship" deserving of pity.
The people in question have lost thier jobs. The economy is in the worst state it has been in for years. To assume that if they had just clipped coupons, they would be alright is ridiculous. When you have two children, a car payment and a mortgage, you are living well within your means. What happens when you have to make ends meet on $400/wk unemployment? Your savings disappear before long, and your house gets forclosed upon. What do you imagine life to be like a year down the road, still with no job?
The grandparent's assumption that software developers drove around Ferarris and threw money out the window during the 90s is inaccurate and childish. It's also silly to assume that most people have enough in savings to live for a year or two without work. I am currently living well within my means, but three months without a job, and I would be fucked. That savings is supposed to be for retirement, not to subsist on because a greedy corporation moved your job someplace where labor laws and salaries were sub-par.
Ah, the first signs of enlightened argument.
The first signs of a pussy defending someone else on the internet. The guy was being a real asshole, and using retarded logic like "Unemployed people should just invest in the companies that fired them". So, I called him an idiot. Can't take the heat? Then fuck off.
Because clearly, the entire billion-strong population of India are computer programmers. Also, because Visual C++ has such wonderful Hindi support, as well as the other 17 languages recognized by their constitution.
Also, there's such a strong tech sector there, and they've all got such easy access to PCs.
Two paragraphs of sarcasm make you look like a pretentious jackass. Say what you mean, or shut up. India has a very, very strong tech sector, jackass. In this very thread there was mention of IBM India employing 10,000 people. As early as 1998, there was already a white-collar tech middle-class forming in tech cities such as Bangalore and Bangladesh. These cities are now overrun with Mercedes-Benzes. Well, relatively speaking, anyway. So, there is an exploding tech sector in central Asia. I know this, you do not. You are wrong, and you lose.
He didn't say they'd go up to American salaries, but he's right, they certainly will go up; this is just how supply and demand works.
Ooh, really? Got any other Frosh Economics tidbits to sprinkle on us from above, Professor? No shit there's going to be increased wages in India. However, it would take hundreds of millions of tech jobs to create a dent in the Indian workforce, 60% of which is agricultural. SIXTY percent. The tech industry is booming, for India. Enough to take away our jobs, but not enough to bring the lifestyle of an immigrating American to even close to what he expects here. Waiting for our jobs to move to India, and then moving there ourselves is a rotten, poorly-thought-out idea with no basis in fact or reality. Congrats on defending it. You're awesome.
Do some research before calling bullshit.
I'm going to let that little gem just hang out and stew in the middle of the page, because the longer it sits there, the smarter I feel.
Please stop jumping on posts you clearly don't grok.
Read his response to me, and then hang your head in shame for a while. Tee hee!
I really can't feel too sorry for people who lived outside of their means, and now lost their job, without having sufficient savings or sufficient skills to find a new one.
It's coldhearted bastards like you that make the world worse. Hurry up and die.
The music sounds so much better than it does if you download it for free on P2P, go out and get CDs at the library for free, or pay full retail for CDs....
No, it sounds 'bout the same. Just like a steak tastes the same cooked at home as it does at a fancy steak restaraunt. It's the experience that makes it worthwhile.
any more than people who haven't bought a Cadillac have any business mocking the kind of tards who buy them and think they're getting unsurpassable quality in a car
If you've never driven a Cadillac, yet feel the need to mock those who do, you're the idiot. Drive it, and maybe you'll understand why, or maybe not. But until then, you should probably keep your mouth shut.
Face it, the days of the spoiled white American who only works 50-60 hours and makes over 50k are history.
Then, I guess, so are the days of foriegners piling on to our shores to enjoy our fantastic lifestyle.
OK, I don't mean to be rude, but you're an idiot. Here's why:
Once enough of these jobs are located in India, the wages companies will have to offer Indian workers will rise.
You know there's almost a billion people in India, right? And even with our current job situation in the US, wages have fallen through the floor. How many of these jobs do expect to be created in India? 100 million? Think.
Damn those corporations with their Congress-bought laws that prevent Joe Sixpack from joining the New Elite by, umm... opening up a brokerage account, hey, that was easy
Remember: JOE SIXPACK NO LONGER HAS A JOB. Sory for yelling, but how do expect someone whose job has moved to India to buy shares in the company that moved it there? Are you crazy? I mean, seriously, get your head out of your ass. And while you're at it, stop being so condescending to people who are obviously worried about their livelyhood. Remember what happened to the first person to say "let them eat cake".
They should be stopped when they try to download the song, which is the only thing that really requires the use of IE and WMP.
Says you. Perhaps, during focus groups, users were angered that they had filled up a shopping cart of songs, or had searched high and low for a particular track, only to be denied at the last minute. "Why did they let me go through all that when they knew I wouldn't be able to download the song anyway?".
It's more like checking your Sam's Club membership card at the door, instead of at the register.
At $0.99/song, that's $6.5 million in revenue. Amazon does nearly twice that in a day.
In it's first month? I said "venture", not "business".
No, no it's not. Where should they be stopped? Right before they start to download a tune? With a giant browser crash? How about apologizing to them when they call up and complain that they can't download the song?
It's more like having not having a handicapped ramp in front of the Stairmaster.
I don't make it impossible to get to my site by putting in browser-checks, like these folks have.
I think their ie-only stance sucks, too, but they have no choice. They must use an ActiveX control in the browser in order to implement their DRM scheme (which I also think sucks). So, instead of processing returns for customers that download and buy music in another broser, only to have the music arrive encrypted, they'd rather just stop all that at the door.
Compare their computer sales, to their song sales. Which do you think is more important to them?
Probably both. At 6.5 million songs sold, iTunesMS is probably not just the most successful online music venture, but also the most successful internet venture in history.
And it builds brand loyalty when a product mostly has to go on marketing and hype to justify a higher price.
Have you actually used iTunes/iPod/iTunes Music Store?
or even ir
It has IR beaming.
Awesome.
I would find the person responsible, and hand them a beating. Why don't more people do this? I mean, what do you have to lose?
Note that it only works if you can actually beat up the average lawyer.
So, how many terrorists did you kill today?
See, it's the gorillas like me that get things done, while the sissies (hint:you) sit on the sidelines and bitch. It's just the way it goes.
A lot of liberals don't understand that if we set the precedent that attacking us will get you what you want, we are opening ourselves up for more "demands."
Not only that, but what about conflicting demands? Even if we could be completely non-offensive to one group of terrorists, we're going to end up pissing off some other group. What do we do then? Obey the terrorists with better guns?
Answer the question. Why did those nineteen people get into such a state of hopelessness that they chose to take their own lives rather than try and fix things?
Is it okay if I answer the question with a question?:
WHO GIVES A FUCK?
Did you also put a lot of thought into why Tim McVey brought down the Oklahoma City Municipal building? When an abortion clinic is bombed, do you implore the doctors' families to give Pro Life a chance? I'm going to ignore your Chinese soldiers analogy, because it's crap, and another poster already dealt with it.
Terrorists are animals, and frankly, I don't give a shit what their stupid beef is. Once you bring down lower Manhattan, you have lost my ear, Mr. Shitbrain Terrorist Fuckwad.
I'm rather inclined to believe that your attitude that they'd better just get used to it is a major contributing factor in why those people died.
I'm rather inclined to believe it was the planes, filled with innocent people, crashing into buildings.
what's your problem with acknowledging that these kind of people do exist, and that as long as we make ourselves a target, they will target us?
They will target us forever, champ. Forever. Doesn't matter what we do or don't do. Ask any of the dozens of countries who have lost innocent lives to terrorism. We "make ourselves a target" just by breathing Saudi air. Are we no longer allowed to have a presence in the Middle East? Is there anything else the fundamentalists have declared that we aren't allowed to do? Are we still allowed to eat pork? Pandering wimps like you are why Muslim extremists topple buildings. Because they think they're going to get results. You can go ahead and get their lunch order. I will be just fine with killing every single terrorist. Don't think it can be done? Meet any Iriqois lately?
Incidentally, I've been out of college for a long, long time.
Maybe it's time to take a refresher course, then, guy.