The north has been bringing it down and selling it for slaves for along time
Aunt Jemima makes fine syrup, and I don't much care what's in it. It's probably a lot less expensive than that tree sap based stuff. Imagine, people pouring tree sap on waffles. Boggles the mind.
There are conflicting reports that riots have broken out all across Canada. Or that everyone seems to be fine with it and is going about their day as normal. Hard to say, since they look the same.
As a Canadian, I am ROFLMAO after reading your comment.
As a fellow Canuck, methinks the Vancouver police would not be laughing along with you. Canuck riots are just as insane as everybody else's riots. Well, not everybody's since no-one can match the Murrican's concealed carry enabled riots, or the brick wielding jerks in the Rodney King related riot.
Edmonton's had riots too, and Toronto's had riots, and a bunch of underage military volunteers consigned to a prison camp in Wales in WWI caused a riot.
Do New Zealanders or Aussies have riots? I've never heard of any.
I love to make fun of Candians every chance I get. But I do have to admit.. I envy their stereotypes.
Gee, that's the sweetest thing I've seen a Murrican write in ages. As for the stereotypes, yes, that is what they are. I really don't care what kind of syrup I put on waffles or French Toast, I despise hockey, and I'm pretty quick to heap abuse on jerks (how un-"Candian"). I never want to set foot in Toronto again. I watch Blue Jays games hoping they'll lose.
Come on really! That's it java is coming off my machines!
Is it too soon for me to say, "I told you so"? Because I did. When it was released, it was a buggy, system security nightmare and even after all these years, it's continued in that vein. This is what corporations want running on their machines, and relying on the goodness of Oracle's/Ellison's heart for support? Why?
The problem with Rockstars is that they insist on re-inventing the wheel.
Yeah, and the problem with that is that cheap, lazy managers can go for a decade wasting everyone's time unnecessarily and frustrating everyone around before s/he'll notice the co-called wheel is a four cornered square and should have never been placed into service in the first place and is in desperate need of being replaced with something that actually works.
Yor managers job is to exploit you within the reaches of the law, and they do. Be a worker, not a hero.
$DEITY, please don't ever make me have to work with this guy. A good manager's job is to define the work to be done, to provide the conditions in which the work can be done, and to deal with his management which means to insulate them from those who are doing the work.
If they think their job is to exploit their employees, they'll have nothing but valueless drones to exploit very soon; "workers".
Egos are a trait of wannabes, real superstars just get the fuck on and do what they do.
I think that's the problem right there. Your *average* manager thinks superstars ought to look like divas and prima donnas. The eccentric nutbars fit into their Hollywood inspired "ET Tonight" vision of star quality, and not the merely quietly competent.
I've found it a lot more difficult to find good managers than good devs. Almost any dev can learn, but every manager thinks s/he can teach.
I will not connect industrial control systems to the internet.
Actually (though I did not RTFA), it appears they got that bit right. Production was unaffected, though their website, office, and backroom (email & db) systems were compromised. Somebody there's cognizant of the concept of air gap, methinks.
The blurb first says it's their website, but then says it's their office computers, which is more serious.
Really?!? Some office drones (finance, lawyers, secretaries, perhaps geologists & geophysicists) have stuffed up Win* boxes. Big deal.
Then it says they're notifying their suppliers of this by fax, which sounds bad. Not "wells are exploding" bad, but if email is down, things like payroll or maintenance records might also be down, and indirectly affect production.
You mean petroleum production companies put critical production and maintenance data in MS-SQL or Oracle or MySQL running on Windows servers which can be taken down by malware?
Boo. Hoo. I've worked most of my life with O&G prospecting and production companies. They are *stupid* rich and *stupid* cheap. If this happened to any of them, they asked for it. It's not like they can't afford the best of the best.
... engineering is taking place using a professional process and producing repeatable results.
That's the theory, but when you look back at the litany of horribly balled up disasters in the history of IT (think EDS or British health care), I have to wonder how many "Software Engineers" are actually doing engineering. I'm not one to revere certifications or guild monopolies, however I do think the word "engineer" is worthless if not accompanied with the local equivalent of "P. Eng." At best it's just marketing speak.
The iron ring real engineers get once they're ok'd to practice is supposed to keep them humble (something about a bridge falling down I believe). The word shouldn't be used just to puff up a job description.
They left out the part where Franky and Bubba make you dissappear in the desert upon project completion, before the drug cartel, mafia, Xe, etc. recruit you.
I've been trying to write a book about a down and out (unemployed!) IT geek trying to sell unbreakable crypto (GnuPG) to the Medellin or Cali Cartel, but since the Zetas showed up, it's not that fun anymore. !@#$
a nuke would do [too] much [collateral] civilian-citizen damage for it to be used in country...
Methinks you believe "they" care more about "us" than "they" do. Call it paranoia if you wish, but I think they're fishing around right now for ways to plausibly get away with the insane. News reports I've read (WaPo, et al) show they're desperately trying to start a war with Iran. We're easy targets in comparison.
I'm expecting neutron bombs in our future (for our own good (tm), of course).
So? How is that relevant to the fact that it is still the best line I have read on Slashdot in a long while?
It doesn't have to be new to be funny and appropriate.
I'm trying to think of something funny in reply, but all I get is old jokes, demnit. Oh yeah, "intercontinental cybernetic missives" in the same thread/story. That's funny! Well, I thought so. No offence intended, honest.
Perhaps I'm being a bit over-critical this evening. I strive to educate at the least. I don't think Masada was anything to crow about. This is more my style.
(see how well Iraq and Afghanistan held back the US military with just poorly armed volunteers defending their homes and families from the invading army).
I know, right? The Iraqis held the Americans off for 21 whole days!
... then continued to bleed you (and them, and civilians) until Dec. 18, 2011 despite it all being "over with" in 21 days. Some people will never understand Stalingrad (suckers) or the VietNam War (suckers^2). How long did it take to actually find Saddam again? "Most significantly, Saddam Hussein himself was captured on December 13, 2003..."
Hmm. "March 20, 2003 to December 18, 2011..." I think that's a bit more than 21 days. In fact, I'm fairly sure March 20, 2003 to December 13, 2003 is quite a bit more than 21 days.
You display an astonishing facility for avoidance of reality. You should be careful of that. It's a dangerous condition.
Now that's funny! I sent one of those to a friend in Europe this morning. I sure hope they didn't suffer.
At least holodecks and replicators actually exist in cyberspace
They do not. Since when was Hollywood cognizant of cyberspace? Have you seen the dreck they put out? Jeebus. Hollywood should stick to baseball movies.
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Also in the production of stealth flapjacks, aka crepes.
You disparage our Quebequois brothers. Suzette's really going to be pee'd.
Do New Zealanders or Aussies have riots? I've never heard of any.
Unfortunately, yes for Australia. Not sure about New Zealand though.
"However, fuelled by alcohol, the crowd turned to violence when a young man of "Middle Eastern appearance"[1] was spotted on the beach."
Well, there you go. TERRIST! [sic] Sorry to hear it. Stupid, stupid, stupid. Where the hell is Cronulla? --> Wikipedia ...
Perhaps Canada is only trying to make us think that there was a theft so that we will accept paying higher prices for what's left.
FTFY. Ah, crap, now I'm a traitor for pointing out the similarities between the oil industry and the Maple Syrup industry.
Do any of you nincompoops know what they cut that stuff with? DiHydrogenMonOxide!!!
"NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER GIVE UP!"
Sometime you are just wrong. At that point you should give up.
Balmer, just fscking SHUT UP! Throw a chair. It'll make you feel better.
The north has been bringing it down and selling it for slaves for along time
Aunt Jemima makes fine syrup, and I don't much care what's in it. It's probably a lot less expensive than that tree sap based stuff. Imagine, people pouring tree sap on waffles. Boggles the mind.
Where does one live to avoid all contact whatsoever with maple syrup?
I'll guess Best Korea and Qatar. What do I win?
So ... you're a ginger?
My pubes glow radioactively in the dark. Freckles and all, yes. How does that come into this?
There are conflicting reports that riots have broken out all across Canada. Or that everyone seems to be fine with it and is going about their day as normal. Hard to say, since they look the same.
As a Canadian, I am ROFLMAO after reading your comment.
As a fellow Canuck, methinks the Vancouver police would not be laughing along with you. Canuck riots are just as insane as everybody else's riots. Well, not everybody's since no-one can match the Murrican's concealed carry enabled riots, or the brick wielding jerks in the Rodney King related riot.
Edmonton's had riots too, and Toronto's had riots, and a bunch of underage military volunteers consigned to a prison camp in Wales in WWI caused a riot.
Do New Zealanders or Aussies have riots? I've never heard of any.
I love to make fun of Candians every chance I get. But I do have to admit.. I envy their stereotypes.
Gee, that's the sweetest thing I've seen a Murrican write in ages. As for the stereotypes, yes, that is what they are. I really don't care what kind of syrup I put on waffles or French Toast, I despise hockey, and I'm pretty quick to heap abuse on jerks (how un-"Candian"). I never want to set foot in Toronto again. I watch Blue Jays games hoping they'll lose.
Hell, I don't even hate Quebec!
Come on really! That's it java is coming off my machines!
Is it too soon for me to say, "I told you so"? Because I did. When it was released, it was a buggy, system security nightmare and even after all these years, it's continued in that vein. This is what corporations want running on their machines, and relying on the goodness of Oracle's/Ellison's heart for support? Why?
The problem with Rockstars is that they insist on re-inventing the wheel.
Yeah, and the problem with that is that cheap, lazy managers can go for a decade wasting everyone's time unnecessarily and frustrating everyone around before s/he'll notice the co-called wheel is a four cornered square and should have never been placed into service in the first place and is in desperate need of being replaced with something that actually works.
Yor managers job is to exploit you within the reaches of the law, and they do. Be a worker, not a hero.
$DEITY, please don't ever make me have to work with this guy. A good manager's job is to define the work to be done, to provide the conditions in which the work can be done, and to deal with his management which means to insulate them from those who are doing the work.
If they think their job is to exploit their employees, they'll have nothing but valueless drones to exploit very soon; "workers".
Egos are a trait of wannabes, real superstars just get the fuck on and do what they do.
I think that's the problem right there. Your *average* manager thinks superstars ought to look like divas and prima donnas. The eccentric nutbars fit into their Hollywood inspired "ET Tonight" vision of star quality, and not the merely quietly competent.
I've found it a lot more difficult to find good managers than good devs. Almost any dev can learn, but every manager thinks s/he can teach.
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Gee, a whole bunch of potential targets for Anonymous or LulzSec. Thanks! No, I'm not affiliated.
Who the fuck even goes to corporate webpages anyway?!?
Investors, regulators, competitors, and job hunters.
I will not connect industrial control systems to the internet.
Actually (though I did not RTFA), it appears they got that bit right. Production was unaffected, though their website, office, and backroom (email & db) systems were compromised. Somebody there's cognizant of the concept of air gap, methinks.
The blurb first says it's their website, but then says it's their office computers, which is more serious.
Really?!? Some office drones (finance, lawyers, secretaries, perhaps geologists & geophysicists) have stuffed up Win* boxes. Big deal.
Then it says they're notifying their suppliers of this by fax, which sounds bad. Not "wells are exploding" bad, but if email is down, things like payroll or maintenance records might also be down, and indirectly affect production.
You mean petroleum production companies put critical production and maintenance data in MS-SQL or Oracle or MySQL running on Windows servers which can be taken down by malware?
Boo. Hoo. I've worked most of my life with O&G prospecting and production companies. They are *stupid* rich and *stupid* cheap. If this happened to any of them, they asked for it. It's not like they can't afford the best of the best.
... engineering is taking place using a professional process and producing repeatable results.
That's the theory, but when you look back at the litany of horribly balled up disasters in the history of IT (think EDS or British health care), I have to wonder how many "Software Engineers" are actually doing engineering. I'm not one to revere certifications or guild monopolies, however I do think the word "engineer" is worthless if not accompanied with the local equivalent of "P. Eng." At best it's just marketing speak.
The iron ring real engineers get once they're ok'd to practice is supposed to keep them humble (something about a bridge falling down I believe). The word shouldn't be used just to puff up a job description.
They left out the part where Franky and Bubba make you dissappear in the desert upon project completion, before the drug cartel, mafia, Xe, etc. recruit you.
I've been trying to write a book about a down and out (unemployed!) IT geek trying to sell unbreakable crypto (GnuPG) to the Medellin or Cali Cartel, but since the Zetas showed up, it's not that fun anymore. !@#$
a nuke would do [too] much [collateral] civilian-citizen damage for it to be used in country ...
Methinks you believe "they" care more about "us" than "they" do. Call it paranoia if you wish, but I think they're fishing around right now for ways to plausibly get away with the insane. News reports I've read (WaPo, et al) show they're desperately trying to start a war with Iran. We're easy targets in comparison.
I'm expecting neutron bombs in our future (for our own good (tm), of course).
You're a legend in your own mind.
"Oh please."
Further yet, it doesn't even have to be particularly funny or appropriate to be a good line in the context of Slashdot.
Do you want to play "/. Stereotypes?"
i) We all live in our Mom's basement.
ii) We've never had a Significant Other in our lives.
iib) There are no women here or in the rest of the IT Universe.
iii) "Social skills? What're those? Bath? What's a bath?"
iv) "They're" == "their" == "there" ...
ivb) "Two" == "to" == "too"
ivc) "Lose" == "loose"
v) "What's an apostrophe?"
vi) USA! USA! USA!
Boston Red Sox 5, LA Angels (of Anaheim) 4. I'd rather be watching the Mets. I'm very glad it's not -40 [CF] today. Please, put down the knife/gun. :-)
So? How is that relevant to the fact that it is still the best line I have read on Slashdot in a long while?
It doesn't have to be new to be funny and appropriate.
I'm trying to think of something funny in reply, but all I get is old jokes, demnit. Oh yeah, "intercontinental cybernetic missives" in the same thread/story. That's funny! Well, I thought so. No offence intended, honest.
Perhaps I'm being a bit over-critical this evening. I strive to educate at the least. I don't think Masada was anything to crow about. This is more my style.
[No, I'm not Jewish, FYI. :-) ]
(see how well Iraq and Afghanistan held back the US military with just poorly armed volunteers defending their homes and families from the invading army).
I know, right? The Iraqis held the Americans off for 21 whole days!
... then continued to bleed you (and them, and civilians) until Dec. 18, 2011 despite it all being "over with" in 21 days. Some people will never understand Stalingrad (suckers) or the VietNam War (suckers^2). How long did it take to actually find Saddam again? "Most significantly, Saddam Hussein himself was captured on December 13, 2003 ..."
Hmm. "March 20, 2003 to December 18, 2011 ..." I think that's a bit more than 21 days. In fact, I'm fairly sure March 20, 2003 to December 13, 2003 is quite a bit more than 21 days.
You display an astonishing facility for avoidance of reality. You should be careful of that. It's a dangerous condition.
... intercontinental cybernetic missives ...
Now that's funny! I sent one of those to a friend in Europe this morning. I sure hope they didn't suffer.
At least holodecks and replicators actually exist in cyberspace
They do not. Since when was Hollywood cognizant of cyberspace? Have you seen the dreck they put out? Jeebus. Hollywood should stick to baseball movies.