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Is Innovation the Most Abused Word In Business?

dcblogs writes "Most of what is called innovation today is mere distraction, according to a paper by economist Robert Gordon, written for the National Bureau of Economic Research. Real innovations involve things like the combustion engine or air conditioning, not the smartphone. The paper includes thought experiments to help you gain more respect for genuine innovations such as indoor plumbing. The Financial Times has posted the complete 25-page paper.(pdf)"

287 comments

  1. It is abused but I think this sets too high a bar. by HungryHobo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    An innovation can be as small as a neat new way of handling some user interaction which nobody has done before or a heuristic which solves a hard problem but at the same time people from buisness or management backgrounds or courses do set an insanely low bar for what they consider "innovation".

    If you were to believe buisness grads then "innovation" includes their "ideas" along the lines of "a website like *only better*" or "that thing which everyone is already doing but which I think is my neat new idea"

  2. Innovation by hattig · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm sure that people understand that innovation isn't a black and white thing, and that some things are more innovative than others. Hence "the best thing since sliced bread" - i.e., something can be innovative but not as innovative as something else.

    In the long term, something is innovative if we cannot live our daily lives without it. For example - indoor plumbing, light bulbs. In terms of always available communication the mobile phone was completely innovative. And the smartphone merely enhanced that and merged in myriad other devices into the single unit. A total innovation in itself, and making that conglomeration of functionalities usable in itself is clearly an innovation.

    But maybe not as innovative as pre-sliced bread.

    (note, I don't actually think that pre-sliced bread is that innovative, but maybe the means by which it can be pre-sliced and then not go solid or stale quickly is.)

    1. Re:Innovation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      What's really innovative about sliced bread is how they slice it without cutting the wrapper it comes in. Ingenious!

    2. Re:Innovation by Forty+Two+Tenfold · · Score: 3, Funny

      It's 3D printed.

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    3. Re:Innovation by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1, Interesting

      What's really innovative about sliced bread is how they slice it without cutting the wrapper it comes in. Ingenious!

      I've no mod points today, but I think you've just won the thread. :)

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    4. Re:Innovation by fearofcarpet · · Score: 5, Interesting

      In my opinion, an innovation is something that no one thought of before and that performs better than its predecessors. It is not a synonym for invention or discovery. Take graphene for example. People had been working with it in various forms (usually called "exfoliated graphite") for decades because it has all the interesting properties of graphite, but with an enormous surface-area to volume ratio. Theorists predicted interesting properties in single, isolated sheets of graphite, and there was some evidence to support it, but nothing really came of it. Then someone got the idea to use scotch tape to rip off a few layers of graphene from bulk graphite, which eventually lead to a Nobel prize. The innovation wasn't the scotch tape, or the graphene, or even using scotch tape to exfoliate a laminar material; it was using scotch tape to exfoliate graphite.

      That one little innovation allowed all kinds of measurements that validated the intriguing properties of graphene and sparked a deluge of research across the physical sciences. Now, let's contrast it to something like the iPhone. Was that an innovation? I say no. Everyone had thought of the smartphone already--they were just waiting for the technology to catch up to expectation. People were using proto-iPads to keep track of stock trades decades before the iPod existed.

      I think that in the business world, success is equivalent to money and innovation drives success, therefore anything that makes money is innovative. And since things that make money are generally popular, they use the word "innovation" to describe creating something that is popular, which essentially boils down to having the right idea or product and the right time.Thus Apple--which makes very popular, well-designed products--has become synonymous with innovation. I'm not knocking Apple; convincing people to enter their credit card information in order to use a device that they already bought is pure genius. But what have they done that is really de novo, that was more than just clever or marketed effectively?

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    5. Re:Innovation by Wovel · · Score: 1, Interesting

      There is nothing in your post you can't live without.

    6. Re:Innovation by Shadowmist · · Score: 0

      In my opinion, an innovation is something that no one thought of before and that performs better than its predecessors. It is not a synonym for invention or discovery. Take graphene for example. People had been working with it in various forms (usually called "exfoliated graphite") for decades because it has all the interesting properties of graphite, but with an enormous surface-area to volume ratio. Theorists predicted interesting properties in single, isolated sheets of graphite, and there was some evidence to support it, but nothing really came of it. Then someone got the idea to use scotch tape to rip off a few layers of graphene from bulk graphite, which eventually lead to a Nobel prize. The innovation wasn't the scotch tape, or the graphene, or even using scotch tape to exfoliate a laminar material; it was using scotch tape to exfoliate graphite.

      That one little innovation allowed all kinds of measurements that validated the intriguing properties of graphene and sparked a deluge of research across the physical sciences. Now, let's contrast it to something like the iPhone. Was that an innovation? I say no. Everyone had thought of the smartphone already--they were just waiting for the technology to catch up to expectation.

      An innovation is something that changes the landscape about it. Yes there were smartphones before the iPhone. And most of them were boring buisness devices called Blackberries that you used for work, and either escaped from on the weekend, or were reminders that you did not have one. The iPhone redefined the smartphone as a lifestyle appliance. The author's bias is fairly obvious, he only sees innovation where it brings more to the corporate bottom line. The iPhone as a consumer device doesn't factor as a growth in worker productivity any more than a Blackberry would. But smartphones are now expected to do more than just push mail or track stocks. And they're not for Mr. Joe Executive any more. The iPhone bears the major credit in redefining it's role.

    7. Re:Innovation by hattig · · Score: 2

      Yeah, and we can all live as nomads without housing as well, but I'm sure the first person to wrap a few bearskins over a wooden frame would be thought of as innovative by modern standards.

    8. Re:Innovation by Hognoxious · · Score: 3, Funny

      wrap a few bearskins over a wooden frame

      Ugg do that. Ugg dumb.
      Ogg do that. Ogg smart.

      Ogg take skin off bear first.

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    9. Re:Innovation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      your welcome to your opinion, just as are the MBA's, it doesn't mean it is correct. We define words in a effort to enable meanigful communication.

    10. Re:Innovation by avandesande · · Score: 2
      I don't have an opinion, but I will refer to the dictionary definition

      1: the introduction of something new

      2 : a new idea, method, or device : novelty

      Apparently there is no minimum size that can be applied to it's usage.

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    11. Re:Innovation by fearofcarpet · · Score: 1

      The mundane definition of innovation is just something new or different. We ascribe our own meaning beyond that; you set the bar at game-changing, while I place more value on "newness." But I still contend that, even by the broad definition of "new or different," the iPod, iPhone, and iPad are not innovations because they were just better implementations of existing ideas and devices; not even that different from their predecessors.

      I had some sort of Palm whatchamacallit before the iPhone came out. All the iPhone really did was replace the stylus with a finger and ditch the physical keyboard. Apple was essentially waiting for scientists and engineers to solve some problems with capacitive touch screens (some of which certainly involved actual innovation). Had Apple not accrued enough clout from the iPod to convince ATT to let a non-carrier phone on their network, we would be talking about the amazing, revolutionary $PHONE from $COMPANY because it was an inevitable next step.

      Again, I'm not bashing Apple or their awesome line of products--but I think that if you are going to label any part of the revolution of the i-device innovative, it was the marketing, branding and aesthetics (see: Palm whatchamacallit). It does bother me a bit, though, how often I see the word "innovative" being used to describe "implementing the obvious in a profitable manner." It's like calling Stephanie Whatshername a creative genius because lonely cat ladies and pre-teen girls value cheesy love stories more than prose, character development, or compelling story arcs.

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    12. Re:Innovation by Hatta · · Score: 1

      If you can do it to a banana, why not a loaf of bread?

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    13. Re:Innovation by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      "In the long term, something is innovative if we cannot live our daily lives without it."

      You're changing definitions to suit your viewpoint just like MBAs do.

      An innovation is something new. It doesn't have to be big, it doesn't even have to be better, although the word usually carries that connotation, it just has to be new. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/innovation

      Designing a web site is generally not innovative. Being the first to use popunders is (although it's also evil).

    14. Re:Innovation by stewbacca · · Score: 1

      Taking an existing paradigm and engineering it in new, different, exciting ways is the definition of innovation. Most of the nerds I know still think Blackberry are better phones than the iPhone, so of course the iPhone will never be innovative to them.

    15. Re:Innovation by Wovel · · Score: 1

      He likely just hung his coat over a free branch. Then decided to use another branch to stretch it out a bit. Someone else thought, I like ughs idea. I will do that and add walls. It is all incremental improvements.

    16. Re:Innovation by scamper_22 · · Score: 1

      'Word' discussions are very difficult because ultimately, people associate meaning with words. Ultimately, how people take the meaning of words is more important than what a dictionary definition might be.

      There's several vague themes running the article.

      1. The distinction between shallow-innovation and deep-innovation. My own made up words.

      Shallow-innovation - doesn't require much in depth study, background knowledge, research...

      Deep-innovation does.

      So for example, Facebook can be called a great innovation. But really, any decent developer could have made Facebook and almost anyone could have thought of the idea over a cup of coffee.

      Whereas, inventing the silicon transistor is not something something anyone can just come up with. I'd have to research the field, live and breath it, have a lot of in-depth knowledge to make such an innovation.

      The other major theme relates more to history and whether innovation are 'game changers' of life and the economy.

      I do think the industrial revolution is rather unique... and NOT the norm. The industrial revolution essentially makes life liveable for society. Takes us out of just struggling to survive. It covers the basics of life. Food from markets, roads/rail/air for travel, electricity and factories for labor...

      It is why whenever a country undergoes an industrial revolution, there is a lot of growth. People are willing to work insanely hard to achieve the goods/services of the industrial revolution.

      Are you willing to work 12 hours a day in a sweatshop to have clean water, clean food, decent transportation, decent home...? The answer time and time again is yes. It happened during our industrialization... and it's happening in Asia today.

      Now, are you willing to work 12 hours a day in a sweatshop for an IPOD?

      So our desire to work to achieve the goods of a post-industrialized society drops dramatically. Sure I'd like a new IPOD, but I don't really care for it. Most of the innovation today are like that. Nice to have, but given the choice to work for it, I'd rather choose leisure time. Would you actually pay for twitter or have time off work?

      This is going to be a big hit to our economy. It's why you see government trying to drive demand. Either via stimulus or via forced demand of government services/mandates. They've built our entire society (public and private sector) on conditions that I think mainly exist during the industrial revolution.

      The other big problem is the computer revolution. It essentially kills off the job creation potential of an innovation. It mainly creates jobs for a few highly skilled people. This is in contrast to previous big innovations which required masses of people to roll out the innovation (railroads, roads, cars, sewers...). Today, facebook which supplies the entire social network for the entire world employs about 4000 people. Google with all it does employs a mere 50000 people. Im not discounting the skilled jobs for the 50000 people at google (engineers, product, sales...). But lets understand, America is 300 MILLION people. The world approaching 7 BILLION people.

      Let's say tomorrow, they invent a new widget. Any bets on whether or not it will be a highly automated manufacturing process?

      It is largely why the 'green' revolution will not and has not resulted in mass jobs. You don't think the new assembly lines for solar panels or wind turbines are going to be highly automated?

      As a society, it's a pretty risky gamble to base the fate of your society on hitting a big game changing innovation every few years or your society collapses.

      Me, I'm in the camp that says, let's base our society on stability... and if innovations come along... wonderful... let's take it as a bonus.
      There should be no expectation in your society that the stock market should always go up, that we'll always create more wealth in the future to pay for the debts of the present.

      Yes, a radical change from how our society is structured

    17. Re:Innovation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i don't know if the iphone was innovative - but i think the app market was, or maybe the app market together with the iphone.

    18. Re:Innovation by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      I'll agree that indoor plumbing and the light bulb were innovations, but plumbing, at least, took a very long time to become mainstream. It existed in ancient Rome, Greece, and China. Yet neither of my grandparents had indoor plumbing when I was a child, and my mother grew up without electricity -- in Missouri, so you can hardly say "we cannot live our daily lives without it." Many people in the third world still do live their lived without either.

  3. Yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not only in business, also in science: I read that we make so many new discoveries nowadays, but how many of those are fundamental? OK, the exoplanets and elementary particles are important, but most of the "discoveries" I read about are ridiculous.

    1. Re:Yes by Joce640k · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The size of the innovations isn't the problem, the problem is the size of what the patent office accepts as 'innovation'. Currently we're at "rounded corners" and it doesn't seem to be moving in an upwards direction.

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    2. Re:Yes by GrpA · · Score: 4, Funny

      Rounded corners?

      That's a pretty major innovation if you're talking about aviation...

      GrpA

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    3. Re:Yes by arikol · · Score: 4, Informative

      This was modded funny, but it's actually a quite clever comment.

      If GrpA had included some context it would be informative

      Thing is, in aviation, the first passenger jet, the DH Comet started exploding in flight and no one knew why. Turns out that square corners in windows and doors is a bad idea when it comes to pressured vessels made from aluminium.

      The failure modes of aluminium weren't perfectly understood at the time, and after huge amounts of testing (actually quite impressive amounts of testing using quite clever methods) they found that repeated pressurisation/depressurisation cycles led to the formation of microcracks at the corner's of windows and doors. This wasn't thought to be a big issue, because the best known metals (steel, iron) had quite gradual and benign failure modes.

      Well, it turned out that aluminium fails quite spectacularly when it has any kind of stress damage.

      The whole fuselage of the aircraft would basically rip apart in an explosive manner, and this was in a static testing tank so the 800km/h speed wasn't even factored in.

      The solution?
      Rounded rectangles for windows (or oval shaped windows)
      The cockpit windows have sharp corners, but also have special reinforcement to decrease/distribute the stress.

      So, rounded rectangles can actually be a major innovation :D

    4. Re:Yes by ciderbrew · · Score: 1

      Looking at the amount of fucked glass screens I see the rounded part isn't working :)

    5. Re:Yes by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Squre holes are a bad idea generally. WW2 Liberty ships suffered problems around the loading hatches.

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    6. Re:Yes by Wovel · · Score: 1

      The corners are part of a comprehensive design patent and do not mean anything on their own. It is time for people to grow just a little and stop using the silly, tired claim.

      BTW the. On pet of design patents came from congress, not the PTO.

    7. Re:Yes by InPursuitOfTruth · · Score: 1
      The discovery process of the NEED for rounded corners might have been innovative, and certainly demonstrated how rounded corners can solve a major problem; but, this doesn't show that the concept of rounded corners itself was innovative. Do you think the conversation went like this:

      Innovator: "if we make the corners of the windows round..."

      Manager: "round? what's that?"

      Innovator: "it is not square. you know. it would not have a point."

      Manager: "if it has no point, then what's the point."

      Innovator: "well, round corners are less likely to crack"

      Manager: "yeah, but what are round corners."

      Innovator: "well, your dog's hips have round corners. There's no shart point or tip."

      Manager: "Oh. OK. So, you are saying that if we shape windows like dogs' hips, the windows will be stronger?"

      Innovator: "Yes."

      Manager: "Are dog's hips stronger because they have round corners?"

      Innovator: "I don't know."

    8. Re:Yes by arikol · · Score: 1

      innovate |nvet|
      verb [ no obj. ]
      make changes in something established, especially by introducing new methods, ideas, or products: the company's failure to diversify and innovate competitively.
        [ with obj. ] introduce (something new, especially a product).

      The established wisdom at the time was that the shape of windows didn't matter. Research proved that knowledge to be false. The solution was to make the windows in a new manner, innovate.
      Innovation has nothing to do with an artistic Eureka moment, and everything to do with doing something in a new manner, or to do something that hasn't been done before. Most often innovation involves slight changes and very logical and simple changes IF you know the rationale behind the changes.

      So, rounded window corners was an innovation. A rounded rectangle slab was a new form for phones a few years ago (smartphones using other OS were of a very different shape and form factor at the time). So that can be viewed as an innovation (the whole question whether that part of the innovation should be patentable is an entirely different can of worms...)

  4. Re:It is abused but I think this sets too high a b by Stormthirst · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I agree - there's a difference between innovation and incremental improvements.

  5. Ahh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thank you, thank you for this sober speech on the real reason on why our economy is fucked up.

    I hate when trivial work is presented, and, you state the obvious, then you get the reply: " Sometimes simple things just work out, look at facebook!!" , this is wrong, people just want to innovate with low effort and risk and with the current technology rhythm you can just give a shot now and then on simple things until one enters the stream.

  6. A good contender by docilespelunker · · Score: 2

    Innovation is a good contender, though it's got to be "plan". Some of the chaps in my department spout the term but quite frankly they couldn't plan their way out of a paper bag. Hurrah for being a civil servant...

    1. Re:A good contender by Hazel+Bergeron · · Score: 1, Insightful

      It's those damn civil service exams. They've turned from testing wit to confirming robotic obeisance to a particular worldview.

  7. too many words by ciderbrew · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The amount of new business/marketing speak that comes out of the U.S.A. is very innovative.
    Reach out to instead of contact is the thing that bugs me right now.
    George Carlin had a whole wonderful bit about this - "You will not hear me say: bottom line, game plan, role model, scenario, or hopefully."
    http://www.iceboxman.com/carlin/pael.php

  8. No by Ganty · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's 'Syngergy', along with maybe 'Wellness'.

    And why are salesmen now called 'Sales Executives'?

    ARRGGHHHH!!

    1. Re:No by Virtucon · · Score: 1

      Because it takes a lot of skill and patience to manage a customer. Since a salesman is managing a customer therefore he must be management and if he's been doing it long enough, he can become an executive.

      It's like calling a guy who writes Ruby a Software Engineer.. LOL

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    2. Re:No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      My salesman pet peeve is in the financial industry. Calling salemen "Financial Advisors" kills me. The only advice they're going to give you is how to steer you into financial products that increases their book the most - like vairable annuities.

    3. Re:No by skine · · Score: 1

      It's Account Executive, you insensitive clod!

    4. Re:No by arth1 · · Score: 1

      It's Account Executive, you insensitive clod!

      Account Executive is so oughties. Now everyone starts as a Key Account Manager.

      Title creep is rampant, and part of the reason is corporation's reluctance to give people raises that match the overall income progression. In order not to lose employees, they have to be promoted to get a salary. And soon enough, you have everyone working at the higher grades, and they have to invent new grades to promote people into.

      There was a time when a company had one veep. Everyone who in yore would have been a department head are now vice presidents, it seems.

    5. Re:No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't you mean Monetary Conversion Engineers?

    6. Re:No by pscottdv · · Score: 1

      I know a sales guy who's card reads "Executive Producer".

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    7. Re:No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, I was wondering how the retards would crowbar that godawfully annoying headline question meme into this one. Good job, retard! Now kindly fuck off, the big people have things to talk about here.

    8. Re:No by diodeus · · Score: 1

      I always thought the abused word was "REVOLUTIONARY".

      "It's a revolution in _________"

      Small minds can only think of big imaginary things, especially in the marketing department.

    9. Re:No by Khashishi · · Score: 1

      because salesmen is sexist.

    10. Re:No by idji · · Score: 1

      they are called "sales executives" because they execute actions that their managers tell them with without thought or question, like the mindless monkeys that they are.

  9. Re:It is abused but I think this sets too high a b by Virtucon · · Score: 4, Funny

    you're also forgetting that MBA's and Financial People use "Innovation" all the time to take funds from people and transform them into vapor.

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  10. Patent Troll 101 by some+old+guy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Innovation" is a favorite term of patent trolls and other technovultures to describe nebulous ideas as patentable products that are nothing more than vaporware.

    Of course, the list of engineering carrion-feeders is long and distinguished. You can be a Fortune 100 company and still be a patent troll from the standpoint of registering ethereal brain-farts as IP.

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    1. Re:Patent Troll 101 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whenever I see the word 'novel' in a press release or article, I know that the patent lawyers were just behind the corner pimping their wares. And in most cases, the 'novelty' is barely novel at the best of times.

  11. Re:It is abused but I think this sets too high a b by Joce640k · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Rounded corners FTW!

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  12. I disagree by Dunbal · · Score: 2

    The most abused word in business has to be the word "invest".

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    1. Re:I disagree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The most abused word in business has to be the word "invest".

      In politics too. "Your party spends. My party invests." Win a prize if you can spot the difference.

    2. Re:I disagree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In politics too

      If it were only that, I could live with that. Lying through their teeth is the new thing.

    3. Re:I disagree by ciderbrew · · Score: 1

      new thing?

    4. Re:I disagree by dkleinsc · · Score: 1

      Win a prize if you can spot the difference.

      I hereby claim your prize:
      "Spending" occurs in somebody else's district and/or is contracted with their largest campaign donors. "Investment" occurs in my district and/or is contract with my largest campaign donors.

      It's sort of like how some adjectives change depending on who you're talking about: I'm persistent. You're stubborn. That guy over there is a pig-headed fool.

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    5. Re:I disagree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The prize is a fantastic investment opportunity.

    6. Re:I disagree by Hatta · · Score: 1

      I'd say that the most abused word in business is "earn", when applied to executive salaries and bonuses.

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    7. Re:I disagree by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      The most abused word in business has to be the word "invest".

      In politics too. "Your party spends. My party invests." Win a prize if you can spot the difference.

      Older than politics. Much older.

      "Jesus Saves, Moses Invests".

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  13. 640k by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    From the end of the 15th page:
    > And in 1981, in the most famous of these ill-fated quotes, Bill Gates himself said in defense of the capacity of the first floppy disks, "640 kilobytes ought to be enough for anyone."
    http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9101699/The_640K_quote_won_t_go_away_but_did_Gates_really_say_it_ begs to disagree.

    1. Re:640k by Shadowmist · · Score: 1

      From the end of the 15th page: > And in 1981, in the most famous of these ill-fated quotes, Bill Gates himself said in defense of the capacity of the first floppy disks, "640 kilobytes ought to be enough for anyone." http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9101699/The_640K_quote_won_t_go_away_but_did_Gates_really_say_it_ begs to disagree.

      I believe he was referring to system memory because at the time, MS-DOS could only address 640k of memory.

    2. Re:640k by Wovel · · Score: 1

      The whole thing is full of stupidity, misquotes and lies. Your example may be the funniest.

      Kudos to you.

  14. It's a weasel word. by Alex+Belits · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Really, it's an euphemism for "invention", but used to describe things that do not qualify for patents.

    What should be said in its place is "improvement", "engineering" and anything done by "knowledge workers".

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    1. Re:It's a weasel word. by DoctorBonzo · · Score: 2

      If "sex worker" is the PC euphemism for prostitute, what's "knowledge worker" the euphemism for?

    2. Re:It's a weasel word. by kermidge · · Score: 2

      Mind fucker.

    3. Re:It's a weasel word. by Bigby · · Score: 2

      Actually, I was going to post something about that.

      Innovation is different than invention. What the summary describes in invention. Innovation is Revolutionary-lite. The idea of combustion engine was an invention. The creation of a feasible combustion engine was revolutionary. The arrangement and count of pistons is innovation.

      A smartphone is innovative. Moving you product from the desktop to a mobile device is innovative.

      A 3D printer is revolutionary.

    4. Re:It's a weasel word. by fermion · · Score: 1
      Innovation is generally understood to be a signifiant and creative improvement on an existing product. So the touch tone on a phone was an innovation. The transistorization of radio was an innovation. The Apple II was an innovation. All these took an invention or process and applied them to an existing product.

      The problem with innovation, or paradigm, or efficiency, in business is that it is sometimes seen as just a magical way to quickly make some money. The company is failing, we need a paradigm shift. The product is not selling, we need a innovative solution. The assembly line is not working, we need efficiency cuts. To a person who is not going to think deeply about solutions, only results, these are easy words to throw around to make it look like something is happening. If I am the boss and i am asking people to think outside the box, to put a new coat of paint on a product, to fire 10% of the line workers, then I am doing something and maybe I won't get fired myself.

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    5. Re:It's a weasel word. by Alex+Belits · · Score: 1

      This does not mean, actual usage of the word is anything other than a weasel word substitute for "invention".

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    6. Re:It's a weasel word. by stewbacca · · Score: 1

      How can something be revolutionary when nobody wants it? Maybe that's harsh, but I can think of a lot of other things to get excited about...3D printing seems a bit out of place. It's like trying to get excited about haptics, touchscreen computers, 3D movies, that stupid Xbox motion sensor thingy...gimmicks, all of them.

    7. Re:It's a weasel word. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wage Slaves

    8. Re:It's a weasel word. by Bigby · · Score: 1

      If we send a single person on a one-way trip to Mars, it is revolutionary. Not many people will want to do that, but it is still revolutionary.

  15. Wrong. by roman_mir · · Score: 0, Insightful

    The iPad is about as innovative as the toaster. You can still read books without an iPad, and you can still toast bread without a toaster.

    - wrong from the very first sentence.

    The innovation here was not specifically the function of the device, the innovation was the ability of the company to present a new type of product that delivers functionality in a way that people feel is better, that is all.

    Innovation does not have to be invention. Those are separate, different words.

    Innovation CAN be something simple, it can be simply a better EXECUTION of the same thing as before, but done more efficiently, cheaper, faster, prettier even.

    Innovation does not mean 'revolution', it should means 'better' for some purpose.

    1. Re:Wrong. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      - wrong from the very first sentence.

      No, the sentence is correct

      What the author is wrong on is that he seems to think (electric) toasters aren't innovative, but they actually are.

      The electric toaster is a very innovative product for its time. Comparing the iPad to the toaster is a COMPLIMENT, not an insult.

      Prior to the toaster, people indeed had other ways to toast stuff, but they found, like you said, that toasting on a toaster is better than the old ways.

      The electric toaster changed the way people toast, the same way the iPad changed the way people consumed content.

      Plus, the stereotypical silver toaster is also shiny and has rounded corners ;p

    2. Re:Wrong. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You forgot to fabricate some problem and apply the blame toward government interference. You're slipping!

  16. Some interesting points about innovation by ysth · · Score: 1
    1. Re:Some interesting points about innovation by dwye · · Score: 1

      So, I am going to listen to the entire hour and a half lecture to find about what you are referring?

    2. Re:Some interesting points about innovation by ysth · · Score: 1

      Only if you want to. I think the lecture proper is only 45 minutes.

  17. "Innovation" has been abused by patent trolls by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Whether or not the word "innovation" has become the most abused word in the business context, that remains to be seen
     
    On the other hand, "innovation" itself has been abused by the patent trolls
     
    Innovators and inventors nowadays often find themselves in between a rock and a very hard place
     
    On one hand, they can get sued by patent trolls if they put their innovation to good use
     
    On the other hand, many of the innovators' livelihood depends on their ability to invent, to innovate, to create new things
     

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    1. Re:"Innovation" has been abused by patent trolls by ron_ivi · · Score: 1

      ...Innovators and inventors...

      I like the distinction Cringely made a decade ago between "invention" and "innovation": http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/2003/pulpit_20030904_000784.html

      But there is another issue here, one that is hardly ever mentioned and that's the coining of the term "innovation." This word, which was hardly used at all until two or three years ago, feels to me like a propaganda campaign and a successful one at that, dominating discussion in the computer industry. I think Microsoft did this intentionally, for they are the ones who seem to continually use the word. But what does it mean? And how is it different from what we might have said before? I think the word they are replacing is "invention." Bill Shockley invented the transistor, Gordon Moore and Bob Noyce invented the integrated circuit, Ted Hof invented the microprocessor. Of course others claimed to have done those same three things, but the goal was always invention. Only now we innovate, which is deliberately vague but seems to stop somewhere short of invention. Innovators have wiggle room. They can steal ideas, for example, and pawn them off as their own. That's the intersection of innovation and sharp business.

  18. Innovation != Invention by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And the poster even gets it wrong. "Real innovations involve things like the combustion engine or air conditioning, not the smartphone." No these are real inventions (and even the smart phone was an initially an invention)

    From dictionary.com first definition of each word

    Invent - verb - to originate or create as a product of one's own ingenuity, experimentation, or contrivance

    Innovate - verb - to introduce something new; make changes in anything established.

    1. Re:Innovation != Invention by Sique · · Score: 2

      I have to protest this one.

      Innovation means "renewment" from latin nova = new. If I do the same stuff in a new way, I am innovative. If I am doing something new with the same stuff, I am innovative. If I am doing something new with new stuff, I am innovative.

      The problem is that like all marketing, "new" is a very flexible word, and so is innovation. From "now with 25% more vapor" to a complete cultural change with other social structures, hierarchies and priorities, all can be "innovative". The author argues, that the increases in productivity that came from the inventions in IR#1 (steam engine and mechanical looms, turning craft and manufacture into industry) and IR#2 (electricity, internal combustion engine, internal plumbing, empowering the individual and making us independent from lots of exterior circumstances) had a much higher impact than the IR#3 (computing and data processing), because IR#3 is more about improvement of service delivery and entertainment than about a complete redesign of complete parts of the society, thus the gains in productivity are much lower.

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  19. Good old days syndrome by paiute · · Score: 2

    This analysis smacks of looking back at tech history through a biased lens. Those innovations cited did not appear fully formed but evolved from simpler forms. I think it is quite silly and unimaginative to call a computer you can put in your pocket - and just incidentally make phone calls with - which by itself is more powerful than all the computers in the world just a few decades ago not an innovation.

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    1. Re:Good old days syndrome by gbjbaanb · · Score: 1

      except radio telecommunications is innovative, and touchscreens too, and a fair few other bits and bobs that make up a smartphone. Calling it "a small computer" is not giving credit to the advanced technology that has gone into making it - even if you think its a commonplace device (kids of today, tut).

      that said, rounding off the corners is NOT innovation.

    2. Re:Good old days syndrome by Viol8 · · Score: 1, Insightful

      A small computer with some radio hardware is all they are. Pretending otherwise just makes you seem deluded. And they weren't an innovation, they were simply a progression of what had come before. There was no quantum leap despite what apple fanbois might have us believe since touchscreens have been around for decades and apple even used them on the dog that bombed called the Newton.

    3. Re:Good old days syndrome by paiute · · Score: 1

      A small computer with some radio hardware is all they are.

      You are proving my point. Go back 50 years and hand anyone this tiny box and tell them it's only a small computer. No big deal.

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    4. Re:Good old days syndrome by Bengie · · Score: 1

      Go back 10mil years and explain how you're just a chimpanzee. No big deal.

      Amazing how many many generations evolution can lead to something that seems new and special, but was really just the logical result.

    5. Re:Good old days syndrome by Karlt1 · · Score: 1

      If it was so obvious, then why didn't any of the cell phone companies with decades of experience do it first? Why did the first Android prototypes look like BlackBerry knock offs?

    6. Re:Good old days syndrome by Viol8 · · Score: 1

      Because blackberry was - and still does - do a better job for mobile business use. There was no market for easy to use smartphones for sheeple until mass market GPRS/EDGE arrived allowing reasonable download speeds, which not coincidentaly was shortly before the iPhone appeared. Funny huh?

    7. Re:Good old days syndrome by gbjbaanb · · Score: 1

      I'm not so sure - the thing that stopped everything looking like a blackberry was good capacitive touchscreens. Before that, you got resistive ones with styluses (eg the iPaq) or miniature keyboards.

      Once the screen was good enough (ie responsive and accurate) to replace the keyboard, guess what happened. Apple was just one of the very early adopters and did such a good job that everyone thinks they invented it.

      The speed thing is a bonus too - and that made the cloud-connected apps work well, but again, there were apps before GPRS, they just didn't download masses of graphic data.

    8. Re:Good old days syndrome by Karlt1 · · Score: 1

      "Because blackberry was - and still does - do a better job for mobile business use"

      How? And if that's the case, that must be why business aren't abandoning Rim in droves.

      "There was no market for easy to use smartphones for sheeple until mass market GPRS/EDGE arrived allowing reasonable download speeds,"

      You might want to check your facts.

      http://www.webcitation.org/5yRQRGPgH

      "which not coincidentaly was shortly before the iPhone appeared. Funny huh?"

      So why did Apple do it first instead of Motorola or Samsung?

      Why were the first Android prototypes RIM knockoffs?

    9. Re:Good old days syndrome by oxdas · · Score: 1

      The LG Prada looks a lot like the iPhone to me. They both came about because advances in components allowed for designs that were impractical or impossible in prior years. Why do you think it is that Apple sat on the designs for the iPad and iPhone for years. Hint: When Apple first envisioned the iPad (they thought of the iPad before the iPhone) it was not technologically feasible to produce it.

      Apple certainly influenced the market and design of smartphones, but other companies were already experimenting with designs very similar to the iPhone before it was released (the Prada is just an example of one that made it to production).

    10. Re:Good old days syndrome by Karlt1 · · Score: 1

      The LG prada did not have:

      1. Multitouch gestures
      2. A full HTML browser
      3. Tap to zoom

      You didn't answer the question though. Why couldn't Samsung of all companies come out with something like the iPhone first? They had years of experience and they had the hardware expertise.

    11. Re:Good old days syndrome by Kielistic · · Score: 1

      Four sentences and you completely ignored two of them. This is why you might seem deluded. Skipping 50 years of progress would probably miss a good chunk of progression. Like all those tiny computers that have come out in that time.

    12. Re:Good old days syndrome by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

      Moving the goalposts is not a nice method of discussion, but if you want do do it this way, here you are:
      iPhone didn't have:

      Installable applications
      Multitasking
      Copy&Paste
      Removable storage

      Besides, years before both LG prada and iPhone there were many PDA phones, for example HTC Himalaya or Mio A701. They had a touchscreen, they had multitasking, installable applications, copy&paste and many more. In fact I've been using many of them since 2004. The difference was that they weren't a fashion accessory, but tools.

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    13. Re:Good old days syndrome by Karlt1 · · Score: 1

      And you actually called a Windows Mobile device "useful".

      Let's see what the CEO of Microsoft said about Windows Mobile...

      http://www.broadbandgenie.co.uk/news/20100604-microsoft-not-doing-so-well-smartphones-according-chief-exec

      "Speaking at a tech conference in LA, Ballmer owned up to the fact that Microsoft has been left a little behind the game by the likes of Apple and BlackBerry-makers RIM; suggesting that the company only takes fifth place in the smartphone market. Asked about Microsoft's smartphone strategy he said âoeWe were ahead of this game and now we find ourselves number five in the marketâ¦We missed the whole cycle."

      If Windows Mobile was actually a useful tool, then why did it fail.

      BTW, before you claim that I never used a WinMo/WinCE device. I actually programmed them for three years...

    14. Re:Good old days syndrome by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

      And you actually called a Windows Mobile device "useful".

      Yep, very much so. It was somewhat user-unfriendly, but there were many useful applications for Windows Mobile even years ago. That was the reason why I used to own a lot of WM devices.

      Let's see what the CEO of Microsoft said about Windows Mobile...

      Ballmer says a lot of crap every day.

      If Windows Mobile was actually a useful tool, then why did it fail.

      If you want to ask a question, why don't you use a question mark?

      BTW, before you claim that I never used a WinMo/WinCE device. I actually programmed them for three years...

      That doesn't mean anything. I develop embedded Linux software for a living but I don't use Linux personally.

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    15. Re:Good old days syndrome by Karlt1 · · Score: 1

      It was useful but not user friendly? With attitudes like that, is it any wonder why The "year of desktop Linux" will never happen?

  20. I want to punch people in the face... by Yaa+101 · · Score: 1

    When they say: "We're comitted to..... blah blah...."

  21. it's Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Have business stopped using the word "Solutions"? If not... I vote for that word. I'd be willing to bet that the only solution ever accurately received from a Solutions Provider has been a cup of sugary coffee.

    1. Re:it's Solution by Alex+Belits · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Sugary coffee is most definitely a solution. And a suspension... To think of it, it's usually an emulsion, too, if it is with cream.

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    2. Re:it's Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree, my boss throws around variations on "solution" so much I'm starting to think it is a synonym for "smurf"

  22. But TRUE Innovation is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A rectangular phone/tablet with rounded corners!

  23. Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by AliasMarlowe · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The "innovation" word has certainly been abused in business contexts. However, to assert that it is the most abused word is less clear. After all, competition for that accolade (in a manner of speaking) is fairly stiff. There are many words from the MBA lexicon with even greater claim, such as leverage, incentivize, and similar linguistic horrors.

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    1. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      You left out the use of 'transition' as a verb.

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    2. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Informative

      I find it funny, I got an MBA degree, there was a strong effort in making sure we don't use buzz words, but to actually understand what they mean, then not to use them.

      There are a lot of Managers and Upper Managers without MBA's those are the ones who tend to be the biggest offenders. They will hear MBA's use the terms in correct context then reuse them out of context.

      For Example Synergy Is an aspect when people working in a team or a group produce more then the sum of each person. The Non-MBA takes this as meaning working well in a team, or just having a lot of energy and excitement about the work they do. Synergy is often not achieved even with groups and teams that work well with a lot of energy. Because as you put more people on a team the natural aspect is for each member is to work a little less hard then if they would do it themselves. MBA's may talk about Synergy as a goal, the other guys who don't know what it means and are too timid to ask, will interpret it incorrectly and reuse it in the wrong way. So in the modern MBA class we are told to avoid using these new terms that we learn because the non-MBA abuse them and degrade their meeting.

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    3. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 2, Insightful

      yep.. MBAs *never* misuse these terms.

      lolz... :P

      If you're one of the good ones, good for you.

    4. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is it the most abused word? That is a big ask.

    5. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by eulernet · · Score: 5, Interesting

      For Example Synergy Is an aspect when people working in a team or a group produce more then the sum of each person.

      Sorry to disappoint you, but a group cannot produce more than the sum of each person.
      This is called Ringelmann effect:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ringelmann_effect
      it has been measured in 1914, by measuring the amount of effort of groups of different sizes.
      When you put 8 persons together, you get the amount of effort only 4 can produce.
      People unconsciously reduce their effort when they work in a team.

      What you can do is try to increase intrinsic motivation, so that not too much energy is lost in the group.
      Also, choose the best members for your team.

    6. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by mjtaylor24601 · · Score: 2

      Sorry to disappoint you, but a group cannot produce more than the sum of each person.

      Not sure I agree with that. Having a team means you can take advantage of things like specialization of labor. So even if each individual team member is not working as hard, the overall output can still be increased.

      There's a reason that assembly lines are much more efficient than having each individual build each unit from start to finish

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    7. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I find it funny, I got an MBA degree, there was a strong effort in making sure we don't use buzz words, but to actually understand what they mean, then not to use them.

      For Example Synergy

      I think the abused buzzwords for the MBA's won't be synergy or something similar. It will be cloud, firewall, vpn, ...

    8. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by Hognoxious · · Score: 0, Troll

      I find it funny, I got an MBA degree, there was a strong effort in making sure we don't use buzz words, but to actually understand what they mean, then not to use them.

      Pity they didn't teach you not to use comma splices and to randomly capitalize words for no apparent reason.

      For Example Synergy Is an aspect when people working in a team or a group produce more then the sum of each person. The Non-MBA takes this as meaning working well in a team

      No, the non-literate might.

      Since when does an MBA teach correct English? It certainly doesn't at whatever institution you attended.

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    9. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by dkleinsc · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm going to make the case for putting "incentivize" near or at the top, because it's quite common, and used to obfuscate rather than enlighten.

      For instance, when a politician talks about incentivizing investment, what he really means is that he wants to lower the capital gains tax. When a marketing executive says he wants to incentivize customer engagement, he means something along the lines of increasing sales with a "win a free iPod" contest or something similar. When somebody talks about incentivizing employees, they're talking about making coworkers compete each other for a limited number of perks (or remaining head count after a layoff) in the hopes that all employees work harder. And when a loan shark talks about incentivizing borrowers, he means breaking kneecaps.

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    10. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by Shazback · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The Ringelmann effect shows how in certain structures and certain tasks, group efficiency is decreased. However, Köhler showed that in other structures for other tasks (conjunctive tasks), the group can incentivize weaker members to consistently perform better than when they are alone. As long as the Köhler discrepancy is low, the task is conjunctive and the group has a manner to view the contribution of individual members, then yes, a group -can- produce more than the sum of each person (i.e. the performance if each member performed the task alone, without any information about others performing the task at the same time or location).

      It is also worth noting that both the Ringelmann and Köhler effects were described with regards to purely physical tasks, over 75 years ago. Their relevance in more complex and more intellectual tasks is highly disputed, in particular ones where solutions and methods to achieve solutions are non-obvious or novel. For instance, solving simple mazes exhibits social loafing (decreased performance relative to individuals), but as the maze's complexity increases, social loafing is eliminated, and group performance increases as they grow larger! This is of course a very "basic" cognitive task, but already illustrates that groups -do- out-perform individuals in correct conditions.

      Yes, lots of MBAs or MBA-lights don't understand what they're talking about, but some people are actually interested in the concepts that are brought to light during such courses and go read about them, rather than just relying on the buzz-words and five minute discussion before the next subject arises.

    11. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      <pointless grammar/spelling nitpicking>

      You certainly showed him. You must get all the girls.

    12. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What is called synergy here actually sounds like emergence. It is not that the group produces more (ideas/widgets), but that they prooduce something that wouldn't have happened without the group dynamic working as a complex system. Skim through Making Things Work (Y. Bar Yam) and you'll understand (hopefully).

    13. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by eulernet · · Score: 3, Interesting

      There's a reason that assembly lines are much more efficient than having each individual build each unit from start to finish

      This is indiividual work !
      You split the task into tiny parts, so that people will become specialized in solving their little task.
      The more separate the tasks, the more efficient your process can be.
      But you don't produce more than the sum of individuals.

    14. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by kelemvor4 · · Score: 1

      The "innovation" word has certainly been abused in business contexts. However, to assert that it is the most abused word is less clear. After all, competition for that accolade (in a manner of speaking) is fairly stiff. There are many words from the MBA lexicon with even greater claim, such as leverage, incentivize, and similar linguistic horrors.

      I would have gone for the word issue.

    15. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by kelemvor4 · · Score: 1

      Yes, lots of MBAs or MBA-lights don't understand what they're talking about, but some people are actually interested in the concepts that are brought to light during such courses and go read about them, rather than just relying on the buzz-words and five minute discussion before the next subject arises.

      In my experience, that seems to be the majority of MBA's. I suppose it's a bit of a slanted view. Since my employer will pay for tuition up front there are a lot of engineers who went ahead and got an MBA from University of Phoenix or similar just because they could do it for free in their spare time without a ton of effort.

    16. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by ultrasawblade · · Score: 1

      Not to mention "drive".

    17. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by eulernet · · Score: 2

      Köhler's effect doesn't apply to intellectual tasks, contrary to Ringelmann's.
      In fact Köhler's effect depends on the motivation of the individual to do his best. He may try to be as good as the best performers, but he may also stop all efforts if the task seems too difficult.

      According to Demming, the power of a group is equal of the sum of every individual plus the sum of their interactions.
      In most groups, their interactions are negative, thus reducing the power of the group.
      And I witnessed some groups where the sum was almost zero !

      You give the example of some group challenge. Of course, people will perform better in group, because these are challenges interesting to solve in groups !
      Since most of the work is boring, people tend to procrastinate, especially when the group is large, as you explained with social loafing.
      It's difficult to split work in small interesting tasks.
      It's easy to explain, as Dan Pink, how to motivate people in theory (autonomy, mastery, purpose), but it's tougher in reality, because motivation is not task-related.

      And I'm not a MBA, I'm a programmer with a lot of experience in teams and in psychology.

    18. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      It's odd that they would not understand the meaning of "synergy" as it's not simply a business word. Did those guys go to college at all?

    19. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      "Enterprise" is currently the one I find most irritating. Being a "business" wasn't good enough, so now they have to be "enterprises." If every enterprise had a hard drinking engineer with a heavy Scottish brogue and a womanizing captain I'd understand.

    20. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by stewbacca · · Score: 1

      I find slashdot nerds who try to ridicule MBAs usually just don't understand the terminology correctly. Then the nerd goes off into one of his own peculiar tirades of terrible terms and starts "architecting" the next "instantiation" of database atTRIButes. Throw in some waterfalls and iterative processeses and one group's jargon sounds as silly as any other's.

      Unfortunately I work with both. Fortunately, I'm neither.

    21. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      Aspect. I do not think it means what you think it means.

      Oh, and "synergy" isn't a proper noun. Unless somebody named their dog or, god forbid, their kid that. Ditto with "managers", "upper managers" and "example".

      Clearly MBAs never misuse words.

    22. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by stewbacca · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You made the same mistake MBA guy cited in his post. Synergy is not about motivation, it's about the whole is better than the parts. A group indeed can be better than the individual, if synergy is present, whereas each member of the group contributes a particular piece of expertise or skill that the others don't have. I know the stereo-typical slashdot developer type thinks they are the best at everything, but part of being good is knowing what you don't know and depending on others for that part.

      Of course just slapping a bunch of diversely skilled people together won't automatically ensure synergy.

    23. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by stewbacca · · Score: 1

      If you are going to talk about synergy on slashdot, it helps to use World of Warcraft terminology...as in The Sword of a Thousand Truths has excellent synergy with my Elf-Lord Palladin Tank-healer's Bezerker talent tree because the Charisma bonus buffs the Strength proc and AOE...especially in PvP realms. But I hear it's getting nerfed in Pandaria.

    24. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hi,

      I also have an MBA. It is a real MBA not from the internet and from a University of $STATE.

      I NEVER use buzzwords. I routinely check wikipedia's list of buzzwords and make sure I don't use them.

      Leverage and utilize, and employ are hateful words.

      Buzzwords are not used in (good) business schools, good decisions are based on reason, clarity and logic, not flash and sparkle.

      It is the mba-wannabes that keep the buzzwords going.
        The bigger the words, the smaller idea.

    25. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      Will somebody please find stewbacca's power connector and unplug it for him?

      He needs a bit of a break.

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    26. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by mjtaylor24601 · · Score: 2

      The more separate the tasks, the more efficient your process can be.

      But I can't have each person specializing in a single task without a group to make sure that all tasks have somebody that can specialize in them. Thus having people work together as a group makes them more efficient, which was I think the original point.

      Now does that mean that the group can produce more than "the sum of each person". I guess that depends on how you define "the sum of each person". I was taking it to mean "the amount that could be produced by a single person completely by themselves, multiplied by the number of people in the group". Your definition seems to be "the sum of the amount contributed to the group by each individual member of the group".

      However using your definition means that it is mathematically impossible to have a group produce more than sum of it's members (because that's the definition of what the groups produces) even without the Ringelmann effect, so it's not fair to say that the Ringelmann is the cause and I'm not sure why you brought it up.

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    27. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by MNNorske · · Score: 1

      I actually have found that the MBA's are the ones who tend to cause the most problems around here. There seems to be a belief among the MBA crowd that they can manage anything and improve it without having to know the details of it. They tend to want to be able to measure every aspect of the business and "streamline" everything into a documented process flow. While that all sounds good their separation from knowledge about the actual work being done causes them to introduce processes that tend to hinder productivity rather than enable it. They are also the ones who bring in all the buzzwords that make business meetings around here unintelligible. In the ten years that I have worked for my current employer I have seen our organization bloat in size while producing less and at a slower rate of delivery. But, everything is now measured in a spreadsheet and those Senior Engineers are no longer doing pesky things like coding... The original intent of the MBA degree program was to take highly educated engineers who had experience in the market and give them the tools to become managers of engineers. When obtained within this context the program actually can and does work. But, the majority of the folks with MBA degrees these days seem to go directly from undergraduate programs into their MBA programs, or enter the workforce for a few years before continuing on to their MBA. In either regard they lack the applicable work experience or background to effectively manage the processes that they then manage. These are the people who constantly say how innovative our organization is and take umbrage when you point out that we are actually only doing the same thing as all the other companies out there.

    28. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by hey! · · Score: 4, Interesting

      No,the GP's talking about something different than having a bunch of fungible people pull on a rope.

      Suppose some designers want a device to be sleek and lightweight. The engineers naturally choose plastic, but the designers are displeased -- the prototype feels cheap and flimsy. This is nonsense to the engineers: the numbers say the design is rugged and light, and numbers don't lie. They think the designers want the impossible: for the product to be light and heavy at the same time.

      The reason "synergy" hasn't happened is that people have split into cliques of like-minded people, working at cross purposes to the other group and reinforcing conformity of thinking in their own. If they worked together they'd realize that "feels solid in the hand" is something distinct from "rugged", then produce a device that is lighter than the competition but slightly heavier than it looks.

      This is "synergy" in the sense the GP is using it. More commonly, "synergy" means to have two or more complementary business areas. This is a real phenomenon which is easier to achieve and natural in small businesses where people tend to have a clearer view of the big picture -- at least until the dis-economies of scale force them to focus on one business area. With a larger businesses it takes planning.

      The problem is that "synergy" scenarios are often poorly thought out. I worked for a small software developer that sold hardware as well, so we could be a "one stop shop" for our clients. Other aspects of the "one stop shop" worked well: training services led to custom software projects which led to products which led to more training. The problem with hardware was that it's a commodity. We had to sell a high precision GPS handhelds at market prices, but margins were small. Our customer base didn't produce enough volume to have specialists, so hardware was a big, unprofitable distraction.

      The problem *isn't* that we have too many buzzwords, it's that we don't have enough critical thinking. "Synergy" is a valid concept, but it takes more than a happy scenario and a label to slap on it to make that scenario happen.

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    29. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by arth1 · · Score: 1

      Execution.
      Unless done with an axe.

    30. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by safetyinnumbers · · Score: 1

      I think of synergy as as being the emergence of new properties, not simply scaling existing productivity

      If I have one VCR*, I can record and play shows. If I have two identical VRCs, a new feature emerges, I can duplicate tapes!

      One person struggles to assemble furniture because the parts fall over, with two people, one holds the parts while the other joins them together.

      *A type of DVR with a long, rolled-up hard drive.

    31. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by jheath314 · · Score: 2

      Sorry to disappoint you, but a group cannot produce more than the sum of each person.

      It depends how you define the "sum", but it is very clear that some ways of organizing labor result in far more productivity than what you would get if each person on the team simply worked on their own. Adam Smith had a very memorable description of a pin factory in his book The Wealth of Nations:

      "One man draws out the wire, another straights it, a third cuts it, a fourth points it, a fifth grinds it at the top for receiving the head; to make the head requires two or three distinct operations; to put it on, is a peculiar business, to whiten the pins is another; it is even a trade by itself to put them into the paper; [...] I have seen a small manufactory of this kind where ten men only were employed, and where some of them consequently performed two or three distinct operations. But though they were very poor, and therefore but indifferently accommodated with the necessary machinery, they could, when they exerted themselves, make among them about twelve pounds of pins in a day. There are in a pound upwards of four thousand pins of a middling size. Those ten persons, therefore, could make among them upwards of forty-eight thousand pins in a day. [...] But if they had all wrought separately and independently, they certainly could not each of them have made twenty, perhaps not one pin in a day"

      The division of labor, which later lead to the assembly line, was one of the key innovations behind the spectacular increases in productivity during the Industrial Revolution. Evidently there are ways of organizing teams to produce results greater than the sum of the individual contributors.

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      Procrastination Man strikes again!
    32. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I see you went to the Pedant School for Grammar Nazi Tools Who Have Nothing of Value to Add to the Conversation.

    33. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by datavirtue · · Score: 1

      let's make the transition and focus on deliverables!

      --
      I object to power without constructive purpose. --Spock
    34. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by Runaway1956 · · Score: 1

      Actionable. I positively detest that word in any context. Quadruple detestation when used by some lard ass, whose only actions seem to be shoveling food to his face.

      --
      "Windows is like the faint smell of piss in a subway: it's there, and there's nothing you can do about it." - Charlie Br
    35. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by datavirtue · · Score: 4, Funny

      If the group is aimed at the same task then they will each subconsciously reduce their own labor. It's like when I'm driving with my wife in the car, I don't pay attention because I know she will.

      --
      I object to power without constructive purpose. --Spock
    36. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by SecurityGuy · · Score: 1

      There are a lot of Managers and Upper Managers without MBA's those are the ones who tend to be the biggest offenders. They will hear MBA's use the terms in correct context then reuse them out of context.

      Dingdingding! Yes. Exactly this. Or they'll hear other people who don't know what they're talking about and just perpetuate the trend.

    37. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by Gripp · · Score: 1

      You most certainly can. I'm not an MBA, so I may be talking out of my ass here. But here is what I've always understood synergy to mean:
      Take a program that will require half C and half SQL. The C guy could certainly of the whole thing. say in 25 hours; 5 for C and 20 for SQL. Or, for the SQL guy 5 for SQL and 20 for C.
      If you put two C guys together the job should (in theory) take half the time. so 12.5 hours. But you are still looking at 25 man-hours here.
      But if you put a the C and SQL guys together the job should take 5+5=10. Thus only 20 man-hours. That is what is meant by synergy. Putting the right teams together to maximize productivity.

    38. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Geeks and nerds ridicule *everyone* not in their ignorant, tiny, smelly bubble. It's why they are so universally and justly reviled. There is no other group on this world as narcissistic and self important (with zero support) as geeks and nerds, an accusation they often make of others, which also makes them massive hypocrites. Hopefully Hollywood's fetishizing of the geek "culture" is coming to an end, and the filth can disappear back into the shadows where they belong.

    39. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by V+for+Vendetta · · Score: 1

      "Synergy" is a perfect example. The problem isn't so much MBA-types using it wrong, but using it (and other buzzwords) in an euphemistic way. Usually the term "synergy" translates to "lay off half of the stuff".

    40. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by SecurityGuy · · Score: 1

      There's a tendency to ascribe every dumb thing done in business to an MBA somewhere. The truth, though, is that there's no MBA requirement to get in a position of authority. I'd ask that next time you see some dumb thing done, you try to ascertain who did it and see if the person actually has an MBA. You might be surprised.

      There are times I wish more people got them, partly because you'd then understand that there's a great emphasis on NOT doing all the idiotic things the general public is so quick to assume we do, partly because we'd then have a lot more people who are somewhat more inoculated against the stupid decisions we see and the cognitive biases we all have.

    41. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by mjtaylor24601 · · Score: 1

      I think you and I are in furious agreement (not sure if you meant to reply to me or the GP).

      If the "C" guy does everything then he's not specializing in a single task. He's doing two tasks, the C task and SQL task. Similarly if two "C" guys do the whole thing they're still doing half of two different task. But if you put the "C" guy and "SQL" guy together, now each of them can do one thing, and one thing only, and the whole job gets done faster.

      Now, has the group performed more work than the "sum of the individual contributors". I would say hell yes (as you illustrate, the same job gets done in 10 man hours vs 25). However the argument that the GP was making (or at least what I understood him to be saying) was that if we define the output of group to be "the sum of the amount contributed to the group by each individual member of the group" then the output of the group can't be greater then the sum of the individual members of the group. Now to me this seems like a meaningless tautology, so I'm not sure why he would bring it up, but I suppose that it's factually true. Of course it's entirely possible that I've completely misconstrued what he was trying to say.

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    42. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by Shazback · · Score: 1

      I'm not an MBA either, but I don't know where you find that the Köhler effect doesn't apply to cognitive tasks. Various papers tend to indicate that the Köhler effect does cross over to purely cognitive tasks. Always with the same rules : conjunctive task, limited discrepancy between team members, information about each member's performance being available.

      I'm not saying that in every or even most situations groups out-perform individuals. In many cases it's true that social loafing and other effects decrease group members' performance. But the point that you made was incorrect as a general rule. Social facilitation has been described for ages and ages, and shows that people who are good at things perform even better when they are in a competitive environment. Yes, not all workplaces are (nor should be) competitive environments. But this just reinforces the need for managers who actually understand these aspects rather than yes-men with MBA-lights who just bleat "synergy" every time they enter a meeting room. A good manager should be able to recognise if a task is conjunctive, additive, disjunctive, compensatory or discretionary, if the intended target is a function of maximization or optimization, and if the task is divisible or unitary (this is really basic). Of course, the same strategy can't be used to solve a conjunctive, divisible task intended to optimize and for an additive, unitary task intended to maximize. Organising a team in the same way to pull a rope and to cook a meal would not lead to the best outcome in both cases, would it?

    43. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      It's slightly annoying, but I thought the point of the word "enterprise", at least in IT circles, was to differentiate a very large business from a smaller business. "Enterprise"-level businesses have IT needs that are very different than what Ma&Pa's Retail Store needs. Now, why they can't just say "large business", and need a fancy word for it, I don't know.

    44. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by eulernet · · Score: 1

      I'm not an MBA either, but I don't know where you find that the Köhler effect doesn't apply to cognitive tasks.

      Here:
      http://wayback.archive.org/web/*/http://www.uni-hamburg.de/ fachbereiche-einrichtungen/fb16/absozpsy/eaesp_koehler_05.pdf

    45. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by tragedy · · Score: 1

      On the other hand, 20 people can pick up 20 cars an hour, whereas 1 person can't pick up 1 car an hour. On the other, other hand, they can with specialized tools. On the other, other, other hand making up a stupid term like "energy synergy" when there's a perfectly good word: "teamwork" which means the same thing is just stupid.

    46. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by tragedy · · Score: 1

      Whoops, typo. Wrote energy instead of synergy, corrected it, but forgot to erase energy.

    47. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by Khashishi · · Score: 1

      Wait, so when I consciously reduce my effort in a team, does this combine arithmetically or geometrically with my subconscious reduction in effort?

    48. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Depends on what you mean by "produce". For example a single singer can not perform a chorale, but a group of singers can produce something that they could not do performing separately. That's what synergy is.

      Other examples would be someone holding up a board while someone else nails it in place, two people folding large bed sheets, or moving a 500lb weight.

    49. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by Gripp · · Score: 2

      yeah, the wording could be better. But I think in the business world it's more important to sound smart and say things in ways that are less likely to confuse people, (even if it doesn't actually make any sense)... and thanks for catching the logical error I made (20 v 10) running on ~4 hours sleep atm =/

    50. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MBA? Mmmmba?

      The most abused term is abused. ( noun ), and the most abused term is abused (verb).
      This sentence no verb.

    51. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Although the Ringlemann effect is documented, there are also both division of labor, specialization of talents and simple brainstorming that well rise above, as well as both managing up. If the individual team members are inspired by the result and the conversational context, you can actually get more than the sum of the parts.

    52. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by skids · · Score: 1

      "Enterprise" is a buzz word that caught on with PHBs until coders started putting it in their code for brownie points and every product that was a step up from the cheapest consumer level crap had to have in in its PR material. For a while it served the purpose of giving us something to say instead of "industrial grade" when we weren't talking in an "industry" setting, but these days it is a completely meaningless verbal ornament.

      BTW, TFA is completely wrong. The word "innovate" means even less what they want it to mean than it is currently connotated. Installing three pronged electrical outlets in a old house is, yes, technically innovation. Innovation is more a process of application than one of invention, art, or inspiration. They need to go find themselves a different word.

    53. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by eulernet · · Score: 1

      All the tasks you proposed cannot be done alone, they require synchronization with several people.
      Also, you don't measure individual performance, but I'm sure Ringelmann's effect apply in your cases !

      BTW, I retrieved the performance factors for groups, measured by Ringelmann in 1913, you can get the original here:
      http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k54409695.image.f14

      number of persons => percent of performance of individuals
      1 => 100%
      2 => 93%
      3 => 85%
      4 => 77%
      5 => 70%
      6 => 63%
      7 => 56%
      8 => 49%

      So when you put 4 persons together, you get the amount of performance of 4 individuals.
      And Ringelmann used motivated people in his experiences, they were synchronized with singing.

    54. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by Shazback · · Score: 1

      My links didn't seem to format properly, so here they are in un-edited format : http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=13671279 http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1559-1816.2003.tb01876.x/abstract

      These both clearly show social facilitation for cognitive tasks, with effects that increase as the task is complexified.

      The article you put forth, by the way, doesn't support your initial postulate that the Ringelmann effect "means" the group cannot perform better than the sum of its parts. They did not disprove in any way the Köhler effect. They merely were not able to say that the variation was statistically significant. This is very interesting (particularly given that the second study, concerning word associations, indicates a decrease in performance in almost all group situations), but I can't find a follow-up work. Usually, this is the sign that there was a parameter that was unaccounted for and after correcting the structure of the experiment the results were "as expected", or merely that upon repeating the experiment they observed the expected outcome. Furthermore, I can't seem to find the paper you are putting forth in its full form, nor in a journal. The work in question seems to have been presented at two working groups (the EAESP General meeting 2005 and the Jena Social Psychology Task Group 2005), and then quite suddely vanished. The University hasn't kept the presentations (the wayback machine has archived them, but the links on the university's own page are dead : http://epb.uni-hamburg.de/de/node/3703 ), Dr Nina Plum now works as a consultant, and I can't find Gabriele Engelhardt on either the university's website nor an open search. Dr. Witte has retired, but only in 2011, and after 2005 there does not seem to be any collaboration between any of the three authors to deepen the elements presented in this research.

      This isn't an attempt at character assassination, but I feel you're engaging in what would pass for irrational behaviour in conspiracy circles. Evidence that goes your way is necessarily true, despite being incomplete, not peer reviewed, nor having been followed-up, whereas evidence that suggests the opposite is "wrong" despite meeting all these criteria.

    55. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by eulernet · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the detailed analysis.

      However, I'm a facilitator, so I'm well aware of group performances.
      I still maintain that Ringelmann & Köhler effects are the same effect.
      I wrote an article (in french) on my blog:
      https://psychologieagile.wordpress.com/2012/06/24/les-effets-ringelmann-et-kohler/

      I believe that if you are in a group that you think (even unconsciously) that it performs excellently, then you'll over-perform.
      If you think that you are in an average group, you'll perform averagely.
      And if you think that you are in a weak group, you'll sub-perform.
      Of course, there are some exceptions, when some people have some neurosis issues.

      And basically, this is what Ringelmann & Köhler verified in their experiences.

      About the group's performance, I don't think that a group can perform better than the sum of the individuals, except for tasks requiring some sharing between the members (sharing knowledge or ideas for example).
      When the tasks don't need sharing, group performance will degrade, unless you are able to create some sharing between members (and most of the managers don't want to create sharing, because they believe that they maintain their power by dividing people). In fact, collaboration is always superior to competition.

      Also, I worked on myself these last 15 years, so I'm well aware of my cognitive processes, I don't believe in conspiracy, and I'm also working on finding who I really am without rationalization.

      I think that you rely too much on external proofs, instead of checking how you perform yourself.
      Most psychologists are full of theories, but their theories don't match with practice, because they are not practicing.
      For example, there are a lot of psychological effects when pair-programming, but they can only be described by someone who pair-programs, not by an external viewer.

      Oh, and I think that the most abused word is not "innovation", it's "we are a company focused on the human", which is always false when the company announces it.

    56. Re:Abused, yes. Most abused, probably not. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's a reason that assembly lines are much more efficient than having each individual build each unit from start to finish

      This is indiividual work !
      You split the task into tiny parts, so that people will become specialized in solving their little task.
      The more separate the tasks, the more efficient your process can be.
      But you don't produce more than the sum of individuals.

      Yes you can. Task A takes 1.2 work days to accomplish. Task B takes 0.8 work days to accomplish. If you can split the two tasks up between two workers such that each worker completes their assignment in 1.0 days then you will have completed 'X' amount of work in 1.0 days whereas it was taking you 1.2 days before. THIS IS SYNERGY.

      The above is an example of how splitting work up between workers actually does generate more productivity in the same amount of time.

  24. No - Passion is.. by dwkns · · Score: 4, Insightful

    'Passion' is the most abused word. Don't tell people you are passionate - show them!!! I stare wordlessly at people who misuse the word passion for an inappropriate amount of time. Very quickly they realise what they have done wrong. Actually it works for all of the abused words. Innovation, solutions, synergy etc. Try it, it's fun.

    1. Re:No - Passion is.. by jareth-0205 · · Score: 1

      Also... I'm doubtful as to whether most people really want to work with someone 'passionate'. A passionate person tends to ignore reason and logic and fly-off-the-handle when they don't get their way. I quite like to keep strong emotions out of my day-to-day job...

  25. Is Cool the most abused word in culture? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The word "cool" constantly reinvents itself and surprisingly has failed to be used up. Cool is what sells. Pretty sure innovation is the same.

    So don't try and tell me what cool is.

    That's not cool.

  26. That, and "technology" by HuguesT · · Score: 1

    Every little engineering detail in software or hardware now is a "technology". A new kind of button is a technology. Inverting the direction of scroll is a technology. Least squares optimization is a technology.

    1. Re:That, and "technology" by Robert+Zenz · · Score: 1

      Wait...do you mean I should stop telling our clients that we "Invented a new inventive and productive technology to optimize the display of the typographically-easy-accessable tabular-grid" when all I did was switch the "Order" property of the column to true?

  27. Daleks ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... "INN-O-VATE!"

    It's not a good thing.

  28. Proactive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Proactive must be up there, and it makes me suicidal.

    1. Re:Proactive by Pikoro · · Score: 2

      At least you'll die with clear skin...

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  29. Lots of innovations by charles.fox · · Score: 1

    I think the last decade /has/ produced many big work advances. For example in the last couple of months at work I have: attended remote video meetings in Europe, the US and Africa without having travel or cause pollution, and opening up Africans to work on the same projects as us; routinely worked from home over fast broadband, reducing commuting and pollution massively; replaced all my books with Kindle pdfs, which give everyone on the planet access to everything ever written from their homes (which might be far from libraries, eg in Africa again); invested in funds spanning S America, China, Russia, Africa and the Middle East with a few mouse clicks; had purchases recommended to me my supermarket datamining that predicts what I want to buy and optimises its supply chains accordingly to massively reduce waste on shelves and in warehouses; rapid-prototyped my CAD designs; bought stuff made in China and distributed all over the world extremely cheaply and distributed via ebay; used wikipedia and social nets to find incredibly detailed infomration on everything I ever wanted to know, and to make contact with work collaborators for future projects all over the world. It's easy to forget that even in 2000 these were all just fantasies in Wired magazine. See Friendman's "The world is flat" for many more examples of how the IT revolution really has transformed how we work locally and internationally.

  30. The most abused word in business is ... by Skapare · · Score: 1

    ... "Success". Next is "successful people". There is an assumption that this is all about money. Of course for a business, it is. But for most people, once they have enough money to live comfortably (which the one percenters want to take from everyone for themselves), then what matters is happiness in life, such as family, and their art of living. Money is merely the means to get there because we have made that so.

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    now we need to go OSS in diesel cars
    1. Re:The most abused word in business is ... by Hazel+Bergeron · · Score: 0

      I agree entirely, but would offer "profit", derived from profectus. This is the past participle of of proficere - lit. to make forward, i.e. to progress .

      If only, when businessmen and their armchair evangelists cried out, "The only purpose of business should be to make profit!" they actually meant, "The only purpose of business should be to make progress!"

  31. Got to go with paradigm by NotSoHeavyD3 · · Score: 2

    Then again I think I agree with John Carmack that many managers and business heads think it means 20 cents.

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    1. Re:Got to go with paradigm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then again I think I agree with John Carmack that many managers and business heads think it means 20 cents.

      Shouldn't that be 5 cents?

    2. Re:Got to go with paradigm by NotSoHeavyD3 · · Score: 1

      Well the word is pronounced Pair-uh-Dime which sounds remarkably close to pair of dimes, IE 20 cents.

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  32. Re:It is abused but I think this sets too high a b by Wovel · · Score: 0

    Air conditioning and Indoor plumbing were both incremental improvements on shelter. The steam engine and internal combustion engine were just incremental improvements in power systems.

    Flight was an incremental i improvement in transportation. We can go on forever. Nothing is innovative by this standard. The wheel? Come on. Someone innovated round rocks? Really. Sentient beings were just an incremental improvement over non-sentient beings.

    I vote we remove the wold innovate from our vocabulary.

  33. Don't forget robust by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ugh.

  34. Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apple sold multitasking as an innovation... nuff said

  35. Most definitely. by MrCrassic · · Score: 1

    It's kind of ironic that the companies that talk about innovating the most are usually the companies that also internally stifle it the most. It is extremely hard to "innovate" with tight and usually colluding deadlines, little room for error and little breathing room from heavy-handed "auditing."

    Coming up with new and cool ideas requires time and room for mistakes. These cost money. Bigger companies can't have that.

    1. Re:Most definitely. by MrCrassic · · Score: 1

      Stupid me; I meant "colliding," not colluding. Though I guess the deadlines can agree to be as tight and inconvenient as possible.

  36. Rivited airplanes by EmperorOfCanada · · Score: 1

    The rivets in airplanes are only now being partially replaced. This has always been a what the heck for me. The main difference between a jet in Mad Men and now is the smoking. All kinds of little things since 1960's air travel make it mostly safer such as the detection of wind shear but is almost nasty that a jet from 50 years ago could operate today almost unnoticed. There seems to be a cultural rejection of anything that is significantly better. One guy crudely glued a nosecone and tail onto his honda giving it an extremely low air resistance; resulting in something like doubling his mileage but it made my culturally tuned self cringe. How is it that even someone as techno desiring as myself would reject such a great improvement as weirdo? Keep in mind that this was crudely added on; not wind tunnel tested; or done by an artist. There was a huge amount of room for improvement yet no car manufacturer has run with it. Think of the early ugly honda hybrids with the covered rear tires. Again rejected. We should be clapping as these cars go by seeing that they literally improve our lives with less pollution and reliance on fossil fuels. But our sense of what is proper overrides this.

    How can we possibly think outside the box when there is such a huge cultural pressure to conform at all costs? Even the people who generally think of themselves as non conformists fit into a few acceptable boxes of non conformity.

    One of the solutions should be via money. Science degrees would be subsidized by those getting business degrees. Society could take a leap and say that scientists doing fundamental R&D don't pay income taxes.(Along with other tax benefits to R&D) That would then prove that we value innovation over say bankers and hedge fund managers.

    1. Re:Rivited airplanes by serviscope_minor · · Score: 2

      The rivets in airplanes are only now being partially replaced.

      You mean with composites, I presume? Composites have bee usd for years in aircraft, it's the main structural bits which may be due to move to composites in airlinres soon. In less critical roles they were adopted first and are slowly percolating down to the most conservative end of things.

      That's not a lack of innovation. It's taking the inovation (composites), figureing out how to apply it to aircraft (innovative), then making sure it is very well understood before applying it to airliners.

      All kinds of little things since 1960's air travel make it mostly safer such as the detection of wind shear but is almost nasty that a jet from 50 years ago could operate today almost unnoticed.

      Yeah, they look pretty similar. Aerofoils all look much alike and area ruling isn't going to change any time soon, and cylinders make excellend aerodynamic pressure vessles. That's basically physics there.

      If you look closely, you will see that the nature of the aerofoils has changed considerably, the engines have got vastly more efficient and everything has got much lighter. Modern jet angines even operate above the thermal limits of the turbine blades.

      There seems to be a cultural rejection of anything that is significantly better.

      Like what? There have been huge changes to the innards of aircraft. The gross outer shape is determined by things which have now been well nuderstood for quite a while. Actually, area ruling was really only just coming in 50 years ago, and if you look closely, you can now see sign of it on every modern airliner.

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    2. Re:Rivited airplanes by tomhath · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The rivets in airplanes are only now being partially replaced.

      There are good reasons to rivet together individual pieces of metal instead of welding them together. For one thing, a crack will move across a weld much easier than it can cross a riveted seam. Ships, skyscrapers, and bridges were also riveted together for the same reason. Today the engineers are getting better with materials and welding so eventually rivets will be obsolete, but there's nothing really wrong with using them.

    3. Re:Rivited airplanes by serviscope_minor · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You can also replace panels much more easily if they're rivited. Like for instance when one of the catering supplies vehicles reverses into the side of a plane.

      Every so often you will see planes with funny, oddly painted panels on the outside. Basically pretty much every part is replacable, and many do in fact get replaced throughout the life of the plane.

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    4. Re:Rivited airplanes by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 1

      All you have to do is change the patent system so that inventors always retain rights to their inventions rather than having all these contracts that give the inventions to employers.

    5. Re:Rivited airplanes by stewbacca · · Score: 1

      A similar rant I like to use is why in the hell has the internal combustion engine remained unchanged for 50 years? Why can't my car produce 500 horsepower and get 100 mpg? Is it engineering or is it capitalism (or something else entirely?).

      I'm not asking for flying cars here, just a modest update to 50 year old tech.

    6. Re:Rivited airplanes by MaWeiTao · · Score: 1

      You want proven technology in an airplane because reliability and safety trumps all other concerns.

      If you want to look at crude, outdated technology, take a look at the next school bus that goes by. But those manufacturers have no incentive to innovate because they get a nice, reliable income from the state. That is until a serious competitor comes along and offers something better and cleans their clocks. Then these guys will flock to the government for handouts.

    7. Re:Rivited airplanes by dwye · · Score: 1

      Think of the early ugly honda hybrids with the covered rear tires. Again rejected.

      Probably by the first person who looked at it and remembered changing his or her tire on the road when they got a flat. My father's 1968 Bonneville had those, as did the family 1974 Olds 98 that I took over, so it is hardly a Honda innovation, just a pain when changing the tire, and a place for road dirt to collect and rust to start. Replacing the whole car when it rusts is more expensive than the savings by improving the airflow, and requires more fossil fuel.

    8. Re:Rivited airplanes by dwye · · Score: 1

      A similar rant I like to use is why in the hell has the internal combustion engine remained unchanged for 50 years?

      Boggle. Obviously, you never worked on one. Electronic fuel injection vs. carburetors, just to start. On the other hand, the Otto cycle engine is HOW old? Eventually, the simple things are worked out.

      Why can't my car produce 500 horsepower and get 100 mpg?

      Because you cannot afford the cars featured on Top Gear (for 500 HP), want to drive faster than a horse trots (for 100 MPG), and are limited by the laws of physics (the join of the two desires). Oh, and anti-pollution gear lowering compression to avoid NOx pollution.

    9. Re:Rivited airplanes by stewbacca · · Score: 1

      Fuel-injectors vs. carbs...exactly my point. That's an incremental "improvement", and some people (not me) will argue the carb is "better" (cheaper, simple, blah blah). Fuel injectors, with their superior engineering and associated benefits, only provide a minor blip in performance. I'm looking for huge increments since 1950, not a doubling of fuel efficiency for equivalent power output.

      NASCAR uses 50 year old technology and Formula 1 uses cutting edge technology. Both engines produce similar performance, even though they have 60 years of technology advances between them. Of course F1 is superior, but the common man can't afford that in a passenger car, which is my point. Why not? Why is it 1,000 fold more expensive to get 800 hp out a F1 car than it is to get 800 hp out of a 1950s era NASCAR engine?

    10. Re:Rivited airplanes by Agent0013 · · Score: 1

      Why is it 1,000 fold more expensive to get 800 hp out a F1 car than it is to get 800 hp out of a 1950s era NASCAR engine?

      It's called the law of diminishing returns. There is also a rule of 80/20 that could apply somewhat.

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    11. Re:Rivited airplanes by EmperorOfCanada · · Score: 1

      So far nearly all the comments to my comment support my argument in that they mostly go "No no change is bad. We can't risk change. This is the way we do it because that is how it is done. I saw that tried once and it failed; nobody should try it again." Magellan's ships left with something like 1000 crew and came back with a fraction; but they had balls and did something cool. Neil Armstrong hardly had a hope in hell of coming back alive yet off he went on a rocket less than 25 years after the V2 was the best in world rocket power.

      Airplanes have rivets because that is all the insurance companies would tolerate for decades. Old welding technologies are crappy and worse than rivets. Cool new welding technologies such as friction welding are damn good.

      Our entire culture is at best "Slow and steady wins the race." we need to support the crazies. Most of the crazies will fail but suddenly someone will be walking on Mars or upside down on the ceiling. Do I think that we can travel faster than light; don't know; Most say no way. Let a few physicists loose on the problem; so what if they waste some time and money. 1000s of risky projects over a number of years are bound to have some payoffs. But if you are anything but the most solidly established physicist and you mention cold fusion or FTL engines and you can kiss your career good bye. We need a culture where the other physicists see an FTL project and wander by every now and then hoping to see some progress, not hoping to see it fall flat on its face.

  37. Re:It is abused but I think this sets too high a b by Toam · · Score: 1

    That's right. I would say that the "smartphone" is an innovation. The iPhone 4 is not.

  38. No - Reasonable is... by Onetus · · Score: 1

    If you really want to see weaseling and lying in action - it's the word "reasonable".
    * Full-time employees and part-time employees may be required to work "reasonable" overtime and thereby qualify for overtime payments
    * ,,, reasonable charges may apply
    * The service provider must provide reasonable levels of support after hours

    It's the word for defining an undefined amout, that changes on whom is interpreting it and how they want the situation to pan out.

    1. Re:No - Reasonable is... by dkleinsc · · Score: 1

      Don't forget criminal law: "reasonable doubt" and "reasonable suspicion" are both key concepts.

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    2. Re:No - Reasonable is... by David+Gould · · Score: 1

      1. Find an engineer who has dealt much with tech patent licensing issues. (I haven't myself, but I've performed this experiment and the results were fascinating.)
      2, Get a couple of beers into him.
      3. Be prepared to duck for cover.
      4. Ask him about the phrase "Reasonable And Non-Discriminatory".

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    3. Re:No - Reasonable is... by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      I was once offered "reasonable consideration" in a contract. I asked if that meant I got a Christmas card every year. I was told there would be no Christmas cards.

  39. Innovation is only abused? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I honestly thought it was beaten into a bloody pulp and left in the corner to die a slow, painful death, was more accurate. Maybe I should patent, patents.. oh wait I think that was done already.

  40. Just like... by Xenious · · Score: 1

    an economist writing a paper on technology, Innovation is an abused term all around. While the current smartphones might be more pervasive than innovative, they are being utilized and accommodated in more places. So in the end the application gatekeepers allow compatibility and I can do more on my phone than I ever could in the past. So is acceptance and exploitation of a technology, innovation?

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    1. Re:Just like... by Wovel · · Score: 1

      If you read the whole thing you will quickly learn it is an econimsist with no sense of technology or history. It is a terrible piece.

  41. Stupid people trying to sound smart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Cold hard statistics. Half of the average employee poll are of below average intelligence. And lets face it, people still in the central part of that bell curve arent all that great either.

    People who are genuinely smart don't call themselves smart. People who genuinely innovate don't say they innovate. People who are experts in a field don't call themselves experts. They let their actions speak for themselves.

    Stupid people, the pretenders who need to desperately justify their continued employment, use these words as a smokescreen.

    It is a lesson of business. (I happen to be lucky and my management chain is pretty heavily weighted towards the wheat side, but I see chaff all over the place)

  42. Obvious by itsdapead · · Score: 3, Insightful

    innovations involve things like the combustion engine or air conditioning

    Pah. Obvious variations on the Carnot heat-engine cycle! As for indoor plumbing - that's just a small aqueduct with a lid and rounded corners!

    Seriously, though, I think it's useful to have a word for "did not invent but turned into a practical and useful product". E.g. the first internal-combustion engine cars were not exactly user friendly - others adapted them for the mass-market. That takes the foresight to spot an invention with potential, a ton of cash to invest and a willingness to take risks.

    The problem with the patent system is that only really works in a nostalgic fantasy world when an engineer declares "Gosh, I've just made an important discovery about thermodynamics - how do I share that with the scientific community without sacrificing my competitive edge in the steam engine market". It relies on the blunt instrument of the legal system to make tricky, subjective decisions on whether or not ideas are obvious, when even the experts in that field would probably argue.

    If you could find a suitable genius polymath capable of making such judgements and prepared to work in a patent office, they'd probably get bored with all the bureaucracy and just sit there daydreaming about riding on the beams of light coming in through the window...

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    1. Re:Obvious by firewrought · · Score: 2

      Seriously, though, I think it's useful to have a word for "did not invent but turned into a practical and useful product".

      commercialized

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  43. Re:It is abused but I think this sets too high a b by Patch86 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Vehicles that can fly" is a pretty huge incremental step from "Vehicles that can't fly". It's a big leap like that which we tend to call "innovation". Little steps aren't innovation- even though they're often even more useful. The Wright Brother innovated when they managed to put together the first working aeroplane- but it wasn't all that useful. When someone took their plane and made minor incremental improvements to speed, durability, capacity, etc. they weren't innovating, but they did create something truly valuable. When Boeing made the Jumbo Jet it wasn't an "innovation" (it's just a bigger version of what they already built)- but it was damned clever and useful.

  44. Well, it's a nice word. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nice words often gets abused.

  45. It is abused by mcwop · · Score: 1
    I am not going to argue what is innovative or not. But, many companies have no clue how to simply keep their products fresh. Design by giant committees keeps a lot of companies stale, and many get killed by change. RIMM comes to mind, and there are many others. Sure RIMM made an "innovative" new phone OS, but so did Apple and Google. RIMM's corporate structure certainly stifled their ability to innovate within a competitive time frame. Even Google recognized they were missing important new product innovations, which they specifically allocate time for their employees to work on (e.g. Twitter).

    Sometimes innovation has an important back-end to make that innovation sustainable/workable. Depositing checks via mobile camera, needs a lot of back-end support. Legacy back ends can be very difficult to innovate around, and that is "invisible" to the user.

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  46. Additionally by DaMattster · · Score: 2

    Not only is innovation an abused word but so is engineer. I've seen positions for server, network, and desktop engineering. These are not engineering positions, they are implementation and configuration specialist positions. A true computer engineer is the one who designs and builds the microprocessors and motherboards and other associated components. A network engineer doesn't actually "engineer" anything, they implement and configure. These are sad and sorry times when we dilute the meaning of engineer to someone who has passed his or her MCSE, CCNP, etc. What about the masters and college grads with actual degrees in Engineering and have passed Professional Engineering exams? Those are the true engineers. We devalue these terms in the name of making some job look more exciting than it is or giving someone a fancy title instead of paying them the market wage. I have held a Desktop Support Engineer position and I steadfastly refused to call myself an engineer. Nope, I'm just simply Tier III support.

    1. Re:Additionally by bussdriver · · Score: 2

      Agreed. However our society doesn't seem to value scientists much either and that label isn't being abused like engineer.

    2. Re:Additionally by dkleinsc · · Score: 2

      Wait, you're saying that the "sanitation engineers" riding around on trucks don't have 5 years of post-secondary education?

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    3. Re:Additionally by jason777 · · Score: 1

      I don't know about that. An engineer repeatably produces consistent high quality results. Take software engineer. I build business apps....nothing that special. A google employee may be building things like Android OS, browsers, frameworks, etc. But we are both software engineers. With Agile, unit testing, code reviews, automated testing, development cycle, etc, engineering is taking place using a professional process and producing repeatable results.

    4. Re:Additionally by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 1

      Engineers are people who make engines. Back in 1325 or so the work was first used for folks who made catapults and other war engines.

      The modern usage of the work is at the point where it is completely context sensitive and as such is just a place holder.

    5. Re:Additionally by tqk · · Score: 1

      ... engineering is taking place using a professional process and producing repeatable results.

      That's the theory, but when you look back at the litany of horribly balled up disasters in the history of IT (think EDS or British health care), I have to wonder how many "Software Engineers" are actually doing engineering. I'm not one to revere certifications or guild monopolies, however I do think the word "engineer" is worthless if not accompanied with the local equivalent of "P. Eng." At best it's just marketing speak.

      The iron ring real engineers get once they're ok'd to practice is supposed to keep them humble (something about a bridge falling down I believe). The word shouldn't be used just to puff up a job description.

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  47. Innovation: Rounded Corners! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Banning another competitor from the entire market, now that's innovation!

    In the words of Ron Burgundy,
    "Stay classy, Apple."

  48. Is innovation the most abused word in business? by Biotech_is_Godzilla · · Score: 1

    Probably not. There are just too many other candidates.

  49. But by Chrisq · · Score: 1

    But Apple tells me that a rectangle with round corners is "innovation"

  50. Second most abused by deimios666 · · Score: 1

    The most abused word is "excitement" All press releases start with "We're excited to..."

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  51. Words, words, words by coofercat · · Score: 2

    After our recent out-sourced data-mining operation, our world-class Data Research team have concluded that "innovation" is not an overused word, phrase or best-practice.

  52. Of course it is abused... by QuietLagoon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ... Microsoft was one of the worst offenders a decade or so ago. Microsoft used the term "innovation" as a cover-up for their stifling monopolistic-like practices in the PC world. "Innovation" in the 1990's is what got Microsoft where it is today - an aging, bloated, internally-conflicted organization.

  53. No. "Green" is the most abused by retroworks · · Score: 1

    Innovative is soooo early 2000s.

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  54. buzzword by MrKaos · · Score: 1

    bingo!!!

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  55. Re:It is abused but I think this sets too high a b by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did this guy offer a clear definition of his conception of "economic growth"?
    Without it, both he and his readers are wasting their time.

  56. Re:It is abused but I think this sets too high a b by xmorg · · Score: 1

    making a cell phone sized computer, and then locking it up so tight it barley resembles a computer and the user who pays for it barely owns it is hardly innovation...or is it? Depends on the goal.

  57. Re:It is abused but I think this sets too high a b by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    The steam engine and internal combustion engine were just incremental improvements in power systems.

    I'm not quite seeing where the incremental difference between a horse (or a waterwheel) and a steam engine is.

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  58. It's not the "flight" that is innovative. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's how you made it fly.

    Stick a rocket to the sides of a normal car, start the engine, fly.

    Into a cliff, but fly nonetheless.

  59. Innovation is not he most abused word... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As my subject line says, Innovation is not the move abused word... however, Consumer, is the most abused word.... or was that the consumer is the most abused...?

  60. 'Innovation' not the most abused word. by linuxdoctor · · Score: 1

    Corporations may constantly, insistently and annoyingly claim that their products are innovative when clearly they are not but, for me, the word that is abused the most would also rank up there with most overused as well. I am referring to the word, experience.

    During the last number of years, the word 'experience' has been popping every everywhere associating itself with products and corporations. Corporation XyZ no longer talks of quality products at a fair price but offer us an "XyZ experience." Customer service representatives are pleased to give us a great "XyZ experience" instead of courtesy, promptness and (above all) service.

    Can the experience. Give me quality and fair prices along with prompt, courteous and effective customer service.

  61. Re:It is abused but I think this sets too high a b by kelemvor4 · · Score: 1

    An innovation can be as small as a neat new way of handling some user interaction which nobody has done before or a heuristic which solves a hard problem but at the same time people from buisness or management backgrounds or courses do set an insanely low bar for what they consider "innovation".

    If you were to believe buisness grads then "innovation" includes their "ideas" along the lines of "a website like *only better*" or "that thing which everyone is already doing but which I think is my neat new idea"

    Or a pda with rounded corners, even if physically identical devices were shown in movies 25 years prior to the device being invented?

  62. Innovation is in the eye of the beholder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What is innovative shouldn't be relative in theory, but in practice it almost always is.

    When people use the word innovative to describe something, it is based on their prior knowledge and insight. Joe-average may see some technology or device as innovative and requiring huge intellectual leaps, while Joe-tech may see the same technology as a minor incremental improvement or perhaps obvious.

    The difference is that Joe-tech may have domain expertise in areas related to that technology and is aware of similar technologies that others in the field have created. Joe-tech may also see that the intellectual leaps needed to create this technology are really very small steps based on prior art and the fact that joe-tech is also skilled in the art.

    1. Re:Innovation is in the eye of the beholder by kye4u · · Score: 1

      Posted as AC. Forgot I wasn't logged in.

  63. Abused, no, misused, yes by kvnslash · · Score: 1

    This is no different than saying 'We sell the best _____ in the state of _____' . Whether or not the statement is true is impossible to prove, but people like to hear that sort of thing. So when you hear "We make the most innovative ___ because of our __buzzword__ strategy __buzzword___ __buzzword__', you think, wow, these guys must be pros. Abused suggests there's a victim, misuse suggests there's an idiot, which I think is more applicable to this sort of thing...

  64. Kind of like the words "freedom" and "liberty"? by reubenavery · · Score: 1

    Buzzwords, the mantras of sinking ships. :(

    Sorry for the cynical missive.

  65. Yes and no. by JustAnotherIdiot · · Score: 1

    Is it the most abused word? Probably not.
    But is it an abused word? Yes.
    Every single big company claims they do it, but the closest thing we have to such is Apple stealing ideas from companies A and B and putting them together with rounded corners.

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  66. Re:It is abused but I think this sets too high a b by oxdas · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think the point is more that someone didn't wake up one day and invent the steam engine out of thin air. What came to be known as the steam engine evolved slowly (over hundreds of years in the case of the steam engine) with incremental changes, not all at once.

  67. Re:It is abused but I think this sets too high a b by jd2112 · · Score: 1

    Hollywood innovation: Making the same TV cop show they previously made, but set in another city.

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  68. "Innovation" and history by ElmoGonzo · · Score: 1

    Enron was voted the Most Innovative company several years in a row. Just before it went down the tubes.

    1. Re:"Innovation" and history by Wovel · · Score: 1

      Getting people to give you money when you can not articulate what you do is pretty damn innovative. In the past commen had to have convincing stories. All Enron did was ask.

  69. Not the most abused by cvtan · · Score: 1

    I think strategy, strategic and empowerment are the most abused words in businessland.

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  70. I read the 25 pages: no singularity, no population by michaelmalak · · Score: 2

    I actually read the full 25 page paper, thus my late comment that will now be buried at the bottom of the heap. It was a fascinating perspective on the past millenium of human history -- I can't recall the last time I read a 25-page PDF word-for-word in one sitting. But in its stated goal of predicting "per capita output" of the "99%" for 2007-2100, it failed to consider three critical upcoming changes to human society.:

    1. The Singularity. Estimates vary of when it will happen, centered on around 2050. Any forecast for 2007-2100 must account for the Singularity.

    2. Population. The UN is forecasting "peak population" sometime during the coming century. By not taking into account population, the paper ignores the denominator of its thesis metric! As automation continues to replace human labor, it's possible that in the future, contrary to millenia past, population reduction may result in an increase of GDP per capita.

    3. Sex. A combination of increasing wealth disparity and accelerating promiscuity will turn a greater share of the 99% into sex chattel to serve the 1%. The paper goes on and on about the "disgusting" work of shoveling horse excrement a century ago, but fails to consider the possibility that future work will be even more disgusting.

    The overall irony here is that in this dystopia that I've painted here, that of human sex chattel and singularity robots serving the 1% with overall reduced population, the ratio GDP/capita might actually still be increasing. The paper author reveals a critical error in thinking when he writes, "By definition, whenever hours per capita decline, then output per capita must grow more slowly than productivity." That is certainly true in the Calculus "infentissimal" sense but ignores the possibility of the Singularity bringing exponential "output" that overwhelms a declining human population.

  71. Innovations of the Computer Age by Sentrion · · Score: 1

    I just read his article - on a computer! How is that not innovative? Such a feat was all a person needed to get a high-tech job with super duper computer skills back in the late 90's.

    1. Re:Innovations of the Computer Age by LordKaT · · Score: 1

      Learn to fucking read then, you half-wit.

      The paper in question cites the ability to make carrying out work easier for us as innovation, and doesn't cite "computers" as not being innovative. They cite bullshit like Twitter and Facebook as failures of the use of the word "innovation."

  72. No it isn't. MOVING FORWARD by mcnazar · · Score: 1

    .. is the most abused word... as was the word, "leverage" a few years ago.

  73. Tablet, Smartphone, etc.. These are old ideas. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tablet, Smartphone, etc.. These are old ideas from sci fi, such as the pads in startrek. Even the touch mechanism was in there and the shape.. are they paying these scifi authors for use of this prior art?

      Where's the innovation?

  74. But did they patent it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or was exploding planes enough for someone skilled in the art of making planes enough to determine the need for rounding the corners.

    1. Re:But did they patent it? by arikol · · Score: 1

      I think it would fall under being a FRAND patent that they would be forced to license to others. You know, like the one Samsung tried to bully Apple with... :D

  75. "Industry Leading" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't see too many companies bragging about being Industry Followers...

  76. Re:It is abused but I think this sets too high a b by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We endeavor to proactively re-engineer the market by innovating new paradigms and leveraging our core competencies.

  77. Not most overused by stewbacca · · Score: 1

    Innovation is not the most overused term, it is the least achieved.

  78. good timing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Perfect timing. Let us reflect on the Apple vs Samsung lawsuit. Are "rounded-corners" on a rectangular device truly "innovative"? Same can be said for certain other trivial "innovations" that a certain corporation with a fruit logo hold patents on.

  79. Ideas are cheap... by firewrought · · Score: 1

    Selecting the right ideas and integrating them into a single product/system so as to yield commercial/operational success is the tricky part.

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  80. Solutions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    In my field the word "solutions" is by far the most abused word. Just last week I received an email from a supplier that literally used "solutions" 14 times in 12 sentences. It was so damn awkward to read! I counted them and pointed it out to him, but he thought I was just trying to be funny.

    Once my boss spoke with another "solutions" abusing supplier on the telephone and began replacing it with "liquids" to see how long it would take to sink in. (Pun intended.) Sometimes when a potential supplier uses the word I ask what sort of viscosity can I expect from their solutions. The confused looks are priceless.

    Past:
    We sell RF connectors.

    Present:
    We sell RF connector solutions.

    Most of the time the word isn't even necessary and makes more sense once omitted. The suppliers we trust most don't use the word.

  81. No. "Cloud" is. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    why don't they just say "dumb terminal" instead ?

  82. Re:No. "Green" is the most abused by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're missing the big picture.

  83. And nothing of value was said... by Nadaka · · Score: 3, Funny

    At the end of the day, the innovative synergy of cloud paradigms thinking outside the box right sizes the alignment to break through the clutter and diversify clear goals by leveraging facetime with generation X and empowering globalization and proactively streamline organic growth to a win-win exit strategy by collaborating on the back-end the convergence of emergent behavior of quantum nano-scale design patterns using real-time scalability using the SaaS cloud framework to create immersion in the workflow of mobile mashup for convergence with web 2.0 using html5 to clickthrough the information superhighway at 4g speeds.

    1. Re:And nothing of value was said... by Steauengeglase · · Score: 1

      You left out disruptive.

  84. My nominee: Philosophy by Mateo_LeFou · · Score: 1

    As a philosophy major I have to nominate this word as the most abused word in business.
    The fact that it is used in/by business at all is already an atrocity.
    Google returns some gems:
    "At Coldwell Banker Lunsford, our philosophy is simple. We bring people together. "
    "Our Philosophy is that our first priority is to ensure the long-term health, wellbeing and longevity of your beloved pet through our superior and natural nutrition"

    I'm not sure what these guys think "our philosophy" means ("our strategy"? "our adverrtising slogan"?) but they're pissing me off.

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  85. In a world by Cute+Fuzzy+Bunny · · Score: 1

    In a world...yes...queue James Earl Jones or some other deep voiced character...where doing the "I'm crushing your head" motion on a phone is worth a billion dollars...yes I think that innovation is dead.

  86. Re:It is abused but I think this sets too high a b by MaWeiTao · · Score: 1

    Hollywood innovation: Making the same TV cop show they previously made, but set in another city.

    The innovation is in getting viewers to watch the same thing over and over again.

  87. Re:It is abused but I think this sets too high a b by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

    "Vehicles that can fly" is a pretty huge incremental step from "Vehicles that can't fly". It's a big leap like that which we tend to call "innovation". Little steps aren't innovation- even though they're often even more useful. The Wright Brother innovated when they managed to put together the first working aeroplane- but it wasn't all that useful. When someone took their plane and made minor incremental improvements to speed, durability, capacity, etc. they weren't innovating, but they did create something truly valuable. When Boeing made the Jumbo Jet it wasn't an "innovation" (it's just a bigger version of what they already built)- but it was damned clever and useful.

    I'd have to disagree - the amount of engineering in both construction techniques, material sciences and management that went into the 747 really were 'innovative'. IMHO, a better definition would be that an innovative idea changes the industry (or field of science or whatever). The aforementioned changes in aircraft production for the 747 where innovative (as are the processes and problems that Boeing went through with the 787).

    Adding an front camera to a cell phone might be innovative in that it changes how you use the device. Adding a 10 mp back camera (to replace the 8 mp camera) certainly isn't.

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  88. Re:It is abused but I think this sets too high a b by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    An innovation can be

    The summary isn't about the definition of "innovation" it's asking if it's the most-abused word in business, as the title states plainly. And according to the "Law", the answer is of course "no".

    My vote is for "Leveraged".

    Oh, what's that you say, the summary title isn't related to the article? "posted by samzenpus" Oh gee imagine that.

  89. This problem runs much deeper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe it's just me getting older, but I think the devaluation of language is a much bigger problem for a longer time. In my opinion this is the result of the marketing and advertising of the past 20 or so years.

  90. Most abused phrase... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The most abused phrase in business is "bottom line". I have an MBA but even I want to strangle people who focus on nothing but the bottom line thus repeating the phrase ad nauseum.

  91. Re:I read the 25 pages: no singularity, no populat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Any forecast for 2007-2100 must account for the Singularity.

    This Singularity sounds more like theology than science/technology to me.

  92. Re:It is abused but I think this sets too high a b by Wovel · · Score: 1

    The moderator he marked my post overrated was certainly innovative. I appreciate all the responses. The point I was trying to make is the difference between innovationation and incremental improvement is a matter of perspective. Is indoor plumbing really an innovation versus the outhouse? The water pump moved from outside to inside, not really a BFD.

    There was not a leap from the horse and buggy to the automobile. It took decades of small incremental improvements. The same is true for everything that people cite as innovations. The one thing they havei in common is that we are disconnected from the reality of the change. They all happened a long time ago.

    If anything the FT piece abuses innovation in ways no MBA could begin to imagine.

  93. Meaning of the word "Innovation" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The meaning of the word innovation is well defined. The fact that an economist writes as if he doesn't know the definition suggests that the usual definition is contested. I just don't know why he doesn't bring up this controversy, speculatively speaking of course.

  94. Re:I read the 25 pages: no singularity, no populat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This doesn't follow:

    "That is certainly true in the Calculus "infentissimal" sense but ignores the possibility of the Singularity bringing exponential "output" that overwhelms a declining human population."

    Exponential functions are differentiable.

  95. Re:It is abused but I think this sets too high a b by Runaway1956 · · Score: 1

    When the president's daughter does a pie chart, it's innovative.

    When some working schmuck figures a way to save the company millions on supplies, processing, and/or distribution - he's just done the job he's paid for. Nothing worth seeing here, just move along folks!

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  96. Yes (with evidence) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    http://imgur.com/bEokt

  97. Re:It is abused but I think this sets too high a b by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 2

    "Vehicles that can fly" is a pretty huge incremental step from "Vehicles that can't fly". It's a big leap like that which we tend to call "innovation". Little steps aren't innovation- even though they're often even more useful. The Wright Brother innovated when they managed to put together the first working aeroplane- but it wasn't all that useful. When someone took their plane and made minor incremental improvements to speed, durability, capacity, etc. they weren't innovating, but they did create something truly valuable. When Boeing made the Jumbo Jet it wasn't an "innovation" (it's just a bigger version of what they already built)- but it was damned clever and useful.

    You, along with many others here, have confused Innovation with Invention. Invention is about creating something new, while innovation is about taking advantage of inventions. Inventors draw inspiration from the natural world, while innovators draw inspiration from inventors. In a certain sense, innovations are obvious by definition.

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  98. Re:It is abused but I think this sets too high a b by jmactacular · · Score: 1

    All innovation is small incremental steps. You never go from horses directly to a Tesla Roadster.

  99. Re:I read the 25 pages: no singularity, no populat by michaelmalak · · Score: 2

    When robots start doing work autonomously, output becomes decoupled from "hours per capita".

    So "By definition, whenever hours per capita decline, then output per capita must grow more slowly than productivity" is true now, but won't be true once robots act more autonomously than they do now.

  100. Re:No. "Green" is the most abused by Cinder6 · · Score: 1

    Oh, good, somebody else said it. Everything is "green" nowadays. Even college Blue Books are now called "Green Books". And because it's such a nebulous concept, nobody understands it. My boss one time bought a recycling bin and said he got it so we would "be green" and please our clients.

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  101. Innovation is often a relative term by kye4u · · Score: 1

    What is innovative shouldn't be relative in theory, but in practice it almost always is.
    When people use the word innovative to describe something, it is based on their prior knowledge and insight. Joe-average may see some technology or device as innovative and requiring huge intellectual leaps, while Joe-tech may see the same technology as a minor incremental improvement or perhaps obvious.
    The difference is that Joe-tech may have domain expertise in areas related to that technology and is aware of similar technologies that others in the field have created. Joe-tech may also see that the intellectual leaps needed to create this technology are really very small steps based on prior art and the fact that joe-tech is also skilled in the art.

  102. Re:It is abused but I think this sets too high a b by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 1

    "I would say that the "smartphone" is an innovation."

    Yes, I think the guy is a nutcase. I he thinks the ability to have access to the internet almost anywhere is not an innovation, he's got a screw loose.

  103. I started it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, well I started overusing the word innovation before anybody else, so that makes me the most innovative!

  104. Mod parent "Insightful" by Katatsumuri · · Score: 1

    (the most abused word on Slashdot)

  105. Hate. Synergy. by DarthVain · · Score: 1

    Abused term. Anytime I hear someone use it in a meeting, I mentally tick off in my mind "yes this guy is an idiot. you don't have to bother paying to him anymore."

  106. Random meeting by DarthVain · · Score: 1

    moving forward lets build a straw dog to produce syngistic outcomes using value added productivity using cloud. I murdered myself.

  107. Re:It is abused but I think this sets too high a b by tragedy · · Score: 1

    What came to be known as the steam engine evolved slowly (over hundreds of years in the case of the steam engine) with incremental changes, not all at once.

    Thousands of years, not hundreds. With a very long period in the middle of little to no development, then a surge of development.

  108. Re:It is abused but I think this sets too high a b by oxdas · · Score: 1

    Agreed and even the "surge" spanned generations.

  109. Synergy IS innovative... by VortexCortex · · Score: 1

    For Example Synergy Is an aspect when people working in a team or a group produce more then the sum of each person.

    No, Synergy is a program that lets me run multiple computers with one keyboard & mouse. It's like a KVM switch without the switching -- Just move the mouse to a different screen and start typing (uses the network). With this program my productivity has increased 18% (Average of SLOC improvement and per feature implementation duration improvement). For me it's especially since I do many cross platform projects, so I can have each screen on a different OS instead of a single PC and dual booting rebooting (VMs are nice, but nothing beats bare metal for testing). I can copy something on the Linux screen and paste it into a text box on the Windows7 screen. I move my mouse and travels around the room waking up all my computers before landing on my TV w/ XBMC. The graphical front end for configuring screens is OK for most setups, but editing the single .conf on the server allows you to place the screens in any orientation you like, even non-euclidean (I have two screens above each other, but moving off the side of either jumps diagonally to a side screen).

    I know this sounds "spammy", but I don't get paid to use their program, it's free and open source.

    Now that I have experienced Synergy, I never want to go back. That other synergy you're talking about? No, that reduces my productivity because it requires more time for brain synchronization, and it's often faster to just do things myself: "In the time it took to make the technical design doc, or explain it to you, I could have implemented the damn thing." Screw that kind of synergy. It's necessary sometimes, but not usually beneficial, and certainly not as useful as the program by the same name. Bouncing ideas off each other for creative stuff like story lines or game mechanic ideas? Yeah that's really awesome, but I'd call that collaboration or brain storming not synergy.

  110. I'm a scientist. Show me results. by VortexCortex · · Score: 1

    I've been trying to abuse words for decades, yet they remain largely unaffected. My experiments have shown that it's not possible to abuse a word. The existence and wide spread use of buzzwords despite our disdain and hatred of them seems to agree with my findings.

  111. fs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    sdfsdfsdf

  112. Re:I read the 25 pages: no singularity, no populat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So what your saying is your ancestors used to be sex slaves for Malthus, got paid jack shit and you're still pissed? No please tell me more.

  113. Re:I read the 25 pages: no singularity, no populat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    oh jesus, not this singularity sh*t again!