Maybe you should consider taking someone on and training them.
Good advice - this is how I got a junior DevOps admin; I found a dev who wanted to jump in, so I campaigned to get him hired. took a huge load off of me in the process once he ramped up.
Agreed, it's not just tech companies. I've seen where quite a few verticals have agreed with their peers not to poach which ultimately drives down wages..
They can agree all they want, but judging by the feverish recruiter calls/emails (and not a few internal HR-generated ones from some really big corps)? When the labor market is tight, all rules are off the table.
Dunno about you, but the nanosecond my job title and duties officially included "DevOps", things got evil in my inbox and voicemail in a hurry.
Not that climate change isn't something to watch (no matter who or what is at fault), but when you consider that (barring an asteroid) climate changes are on a far longer timescale than, say, massive thermonuclear war? Methinks the clock maintainers are looking for new and scarier boogeymen to conjure up, since the end of the Cold War pretty much took away the biggest one they had.
In all reality, there are plenty of things that could spell 'doomsday', even without human action towards that end - problem is, they're kind of unpredictable. Supercalderas/Supervolcanoes, asteroid impacts, Coronal Mass Ejections, you-name-it... can't do jack about those, though, so they have to find something they can point to and say "OMG you need to change your behavior NOW!" I'll leave the validity and urgency of these warnings as an exercise to the individual reader, as your mileage may vary.
Look, what was said, or practiced, is wrong on all fronts. As an employer and a one time employee, it sucks, but it happens all the time. I know for a fact that recruiters look to the mid-west to bring employees to the east/west coast because they have a lesser expectation for salary. Does that make them racist?
First off, salaries should be different, even within the same job description - the more skilled and the go-getters should make more than the slackers and not-so-skilled.
However, it's what was said and its commonly-derived meaning that came shining through as damning, not the salary itself. If the dumbass manager had followed your understanding of it and said "...the $50k salary is in line with the new guy's expectations, so that's all he gets", then he'd be in the clear HR-wise, and no one would/could say so much as 'boo' about it.
But no... the dumbass specifically called out what is clearly a legally protected category: National Origin.
This means Oracle might be on the hook for an EEOC lawsuit that could cost up to multiple times the Indian dude's salary, and perhaps a big enough fine to require hundreds of mid-sized RAC sales just to catch up on revenue. It also (if Oracle is smart) means that the dipshit who allegedly said it gets fired so hard that the back of his pants bear scuff-marks from being tossed onto the street.
Because of the potential for massive lawsuits, big companies go way the hell out of their way to train their underlings about how to avoid shit like this.
there's also that not-having-sex-until-marriage part
A pointless and moralistic stance.
No, it's a very real and very practical stance. If you cannot afford to feed them, then it makes perfect sense to not breed them. If you want to make sure they have at least some chance of success, then be picky about where you stick your dick, and put a ring on her finger beforehand. It also reduces the whole bastardy problem that lies at the majority of welfare cases.
6,000+ years of human history stands as my proof of this. So where's yours?
not to mention promoting fatherhood (as opposed to just being a "baby daddy")
Sure, but that's beside the point.
Bullshit - it is the point, and a huge part of getting the poor out of the mess they're in. Single mothers have it orders of magnitude harder than a two-parent family. Deny it - I dare you. It's tragic enough that there are single mothers due to widowhood, why compound it by promoting a culture and ideology that treats women as ever-willing fuck-toys, while duping them into thinking they're "empowered" by becoming such things?
Opposition to contraceptives and proper sex education is purely malicious.
Nice strawman: No one is opposed to sex education - it is first and foremost the parents' job, if they're competent. If they're not, at least they can damned sure teach from experience (e.g. "Son, don't be poor like me. Here's part of how you avoid that..."), have the school teach it, and if all else fails there is ready access to books on the subject at the nearest library....anything else is patronizing and over-parental. I won't even touch on how ready contraception has gone out of its way to reduce women to mere semi-disposable sperm receptacles.
To be fair, there's also that not-having-sex-until-marriage part, not to mention promoting fatherhood (as opposed to just being a "baby daddy") but please - feel free to overgeneralize.;)
Wow - That was fun watching the moderation... especially when the butthurt and brainless among us reached for the "overrated" mod in a hurry.
Let's sum it up for those who were so frightened of what I wrote that they had to try to drive it down, mm'kay?
"The truth is like a lion. You don't have to defend it. Let it loose. It will defend itself." -St. Augustine
PS: Mod this one down too, kids - prove to us all just how scared you are.;)
... if I actually had any apps from the Windows Store, it's not a bad way to interact with them.
I can agree as to the app store concept - I've been using it on my Mac for awhile now, and it's handy for the little crap that is needed enough to want, but not enough to bother downloading and installing (e.g. Skitch - a neat little free screen-cap application that beats the unholy shit out of the default Grab, but used somewhat infrequently). It's also handy for stupid free time-waster games when the mood strikes.
That said, I prefer to keep/own the installers (and in my case.dmg's) of stuff that I actually pay money for; an app store doesn't quite give you that kind of love, and can pull a product at any time (or "upgrade", which may require an OS version you ain't got, etc).
Seriously? Unless they radically alter how these things are built and networked, all it would take is one disgruntled cashier (or one willing to accept a percent of the take) + one register that isn't quite visible from the cameras + one appropriately-loaded USB stick (or similar device).
Detroit collapsed because people left as the auto industry there was collapsing.
So what did they bring in to replace it? Numerous cities had to cope with the loss of manufacturing (of various industries), so why did Detroit fail so spectacularly?
You know, you might have a point except for one word: Detroit.
No republican has held any kind of office in that city since the 1950's. The democrats set the policies, and ran the government there. They ballooned the welfare state there to unimaginable proportions. They have no one to blame but themselves.
That's fine in theory. Except for the fact that the people that want to gut Food Stamps also want to destroy sex education and any form of family planning.
To be fair, there's also that not-having-sex-until-marriage part, not to mention promoting fatherhood (as opposed to just being a "baby daddy") but please - feel free to overgeneralize.;)
All of the fat asses will have less food. If they want better nutrition maybe they should get a better job.
Well, one small problem... okay, a couple:
Grocery stores are a bit rare in the ghetto, and those few which exist usually charge exorbitant prices while providing very little in the way of variety (and don't ask about the produce.)
Most of these mothers have a shit education courtesy of public schooling (assuming the mother actually completed high school - usually she didn't), so "dinner" usually means fast-food takeout, or whatever the local bodega has in the way of food (imagine growing up on convenience store burritos and soda every night...)
Jobs suck in depressed areas - triply so if you have no education.
Moving (or even saving up enough money to do that) is a trial at best - especially when you consider that most "services" in depressed areas are geared towards screwing over the poor (see also payday loans, credit cards, etc).
Finally, the capper: government assistance sucks. It is geared towards insuring that once you are on it, you never come off of it. The moment you start making any money, you get taxed hard, you lose the assistance funding, and they kick you out of that government-assisted housing. Oh, and since you haven't the education or funds to access tax specialists or any other real option, you're basically fucked and stuck.
Now this isn't always the case - with the help of family, you can pull yourself out of such straits. However, because family has been pretty much obliterated over the decades in these areas by the lack of fathers, and by an overweening demand by certain ideologues that family is an anachronism? Well, it's part of how you wind up with a permanent underclass....and no one seems to want to fix this. The right wants to cut down funds in order to force initiative and drive, while the left wants to smooth over it with more money. To be honest, neither answer is correct - but a hybrid of the two would work well, if done right. Put a time limit on the funds, but require the recipient take classes, look for work, etc - then provide enough assistance towards the end so that the newly-working single mother isn't faced with instant penalties just for making a paycheck.
Any cites for that so-called fact. MAC's are closed systems with a much more engineered life span than a clone PC.
Here are the longest-lived OEM-made machines I've ever owned:
1994 Apple PowerBook (gave it away to a kid in 2005. The battery was crap by that point, but otherwise it still ran just fine with OS7.) 2004 Dual G5 PowerMac (gave it away early 2013, still in perfect working order, running OSX 10.5) 2000 Mac Cube (I modified the hell out of it, but eventually sold it in 2004 to a DJ for $800 on eBay.)
By comparison: 2001 Dell Inspiron 8100 (gave it to a relative in 2004, and she reported that the screen blew out in 2005.) 2011 Samsung RC-512 (the CPU kept kicking off the thermal safeties - nursed it along, but finally had to dump it in mid-2013.) 2011 Compaq (bought it for the wife - it simply died in mid-2013.)
No it won't. It will become obsolete faster as it's completely unmaintainable.
Assuming the non-geeks even bother to upgrade anything (the vast majority don't, but let's assume for a moment:)
Software maintenance? I could be running a 2007-era Intel MBP right now and still use the latest OS version, binaries, etc. Let me read that to you in practical terms: I can be using the latest OS/apps on a 7-year-old Apple laptop.
Hardware Maintenance? Wait, what's the point? For Macs, you usually just slap more RAM and/or a bigger HDD in it, and you're good for another year or three before performance suffers enough to force an upgrade.
The one and only real issue I'd seen with Macs and obsolescence as per hardware? The switch from PPC (G4/5) to Intel, but evne that was smoothed over for a few years with fat binaries. This allowed me to keep a 2004 vintage dual G5 desktop running just fine until I gave it away earlier this year due to performance gripes.
With a PC, I can do this myself or pay someone else. This isn't an option with a Mac.
Wrong-O; if you want to swap mobos on an HP or Dell desktop, you're stuck in the same boat, because the parts are proprietary enough to require you go to them for the goods (assuming thos parts are still for sale.) Laptops even moreso.
Now if you're white-boxing it, that's a whole different story - but you're still paying anyway just to chase the bleeding edge.
Macs were the anomaly in all this - their "PC" sales went up 26% over the same time period.
Ultimate source is Gartner, but found the info here: linky
Also, if kept reasonably clean, a Mac will last way longer than the typical OEM box/laptop.
Otherwise, in the PC realm? Yeah... over the past few years, I've just bought laptops as needed, and aside from my last purchase (because the old laptop was failing), that's been farther and fewer between.
In other news, there is also the Tablet Effect; my wife went from a laptop to an iPad 4 last year, and it seems to suit her perfectly.
Every contracting company has had goofs, but it's hard to come up with a bigger boner than blowing up an entire stock market for a whole day, causing multi-billions in pounds of lost trade to fly up a bird's backside (see also the LSE and TradElect.)
Microsoft and Accenture sucked that one down hard, and I don't think Microsoft ever had the cojones to go near stock exchanges ever since.
There is nothing wrong with the IIS platform. Accenture is the issue. The vast majority of their PM team cannot find their dick with both hands.
Never said it was wrong or right - but it's a common trick with large contractors to declare your existing platform obsolete, insecure, or underpowered, and (after you signed the contract) demand that you shove over to their preferred platform. Of course, they'll point to some esoteric half-hidden legalese thing in the contract that your non-tech legal department completely glossed over, and you never got to see.
This means they get extra money, more time to ETA, and they move you to whatever they're more comfortable with. It also has the danger of locking you in even tighter come the next contract renewal.
Why would a Python install break something, if it's installed side by side with your app?
...as long as everything you call script/daemon-wise reads "python27/path/to/my/new_product.py" , sure.
Unless you want the sysadmins to love the idea of re-jiggering links. 'course, that might break dependent packages, other python bits running on the same box, etc.
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Maybe you should consider taking someone on and training them.
Good advice - this is how I got a junior DevOps admin; I found a dev who wanted to jump in, so I campaigned to get him hired. took a huge load off of me in the process once he ramped up.
Agreed, it's not just tech companies. I've seen where quite a few verticals have agreed with their peers not to poach which ultimately drives down wages. .
They can agree all they want, but judging by the feverish recruiter calls/emails (and not a few internal HR-generated ones from some really big corps)? When the labor market is tight, all rules are off the table.
Dunno about you, but the nanosecond my job title and duties officially included "DevOps", things got evil in my inbox and voicemail in a hurry.
Actually, yeah.
Not that climate change isn't something to watch (no matter who or what is at fault), but when you consider that (barring an asteroid) climate changes are on a far longer timescale than, say, massive thermonuclear war? Methinks the clock maintainers are looking for new and scarier boogeymen to conjure up, since the end of the Cold War pretty much took away the biggest one they had.
In all reality, there are plenty of things that could spell 'doomsday', even without human action towards that end - problem is, they're kind of unpredictable. Supercalderas/Supervolcanoes, asteroid impacts, Coronal Mass Ejections, you-name-it... can't do jack about those, though, so they have to find something they can point to and say "OMG you need to change your behavior NOW!" I'll leave the validity and urgency of these warnings as an exercise to the individual reader, as your mileage may vary.
Look, what was said, or practiced, is wrong on all fronts. As an employer and a one time employee, it sucks, but it happens all the time. I know for a fact that recruiters look to the mid-west to bring employees to the east/west coast because they have a lesser expectation for salary. Does that make them racist?
First off, salaries should be different, even within the same job description - the more skilled and the go-getters should make more than the slackers and not-so-skilled.
However, it's what was said and its commonly-derived meaning that came shining through as damning, not the salary itself. If the dumbass manager had followed your understanding of it and said "...the $50k salary is in line with the new guy's expectations, so that's all he gets", then he'd be in the clear HR-wise, and no one would/could say so much as 'boo' about it.
But no... the dumbass specifically called out what is clearly a legally protected category: National Origin.
This means Oracle might be on the hook for an EEOC lawsuit that could cost up to multiple times the Indian dude's salary, and perhaps a big enough fine to require hundreds of mid-sized RAC sales just to catch up on revenue. It also (if Oracle is smart) means that the dipshit who allegedly said it gets fired so hard that the back of his pants bear scuff-marks from being tossed onto the street.
Because of the potential for massive lawsuits, big companies go way the hell out of their way to train their underlings about how to avoid shit like this.
The US 1964 Civil Rights Act includes "National Origin" as a protected category.
(...historically, we've had a bit of a problem with discrimination based on that. See also the Irish.)
60K is probably the base salary, before commissions.
It's nothing new - most sales positions are built that way.
A pointless and moralistic stance.
No, it's a very real and very practical stance. If you cannot afford to feed them, then it makes perfect sense to not breed them. If you want to make sure they have at least some chance of success, then be picky about where you stick your dick, and put a ring on her finger beforehand. It also reduces the whole bastardy problem that lies at the majority of welfare cases.
6,000+ years of human history stands as my proof of this. So where's yours?
Sure, but that's beside the point.
Bullshit - it is the point, and a huge part of getting the poor out of the mess they're in. Single mothers have it orders of magnitude harder than a two-parent family. Deny it - I dare you. It's tragic enough that there are single mothers due to widowhood, why compound it by promoting a culture and ideology that treats women as ever-willing fuck-toys, while duping them into thinking they're "empowered" by becoming such things?
Opposition to contraceptives and proper sex education is purely malicious.
Nice strawman: No one is opposed to sex education - it is first and foremost the parents' job, if they're competent. If they're not, at least they can damned sure teach from experience (e.g. "Son, don't be poor like me. Here's part of how you avoid that..."), have the school teach it, and if all else fails there is ready access to books on the subject at the nearest library. ...anything else is patronizing and over-parental. I won't even touch on how ready contraception has gone out of its way to reduce women to mere semi-disposable sperm receptacles.
To be fair, there's also that not-having-sex-until-marriage part, not to mention promoting fatherhood (as opposed to just being a "baby daddy") but please - feel free to overgeneralize. ;)
Wow - That was fun watching the moderation... especially when the butthurt and brainless among us reached for the "overrated" mod in a hurry.
Let's sum it up for those who were so frightened of what I wrote that they had to try to drive it down, mm'kay?
"The truth is like a lion.
You don't have to defend it.
Let it loose.
It will defend itself."
-St. Augustine
PS: Mod this one down too, kids - prove to us all just how scared you are. ;)
... if I actually had any apps from the Windows Store, it's not a bad way to interact with them.
I can agree as to the app store concept - I've been using it on my Mac for awhile now, and it's handy for the little crap that is needed enough to want, but not enough to bother downloading and installing (e.g. Skitch - a neat little free screen-cap application that beats the unholy shit out of the default Grab, but used somewhat infrequently). It's also handy for stupid free time-waster games when the mood strikes.
That said, I prefer to keep/own the installers (and in my case .dmg's) of stuff that I actually pay money for; an app store doesn't quite give you that kind of love, and can pull a product at any time (or "upgrade", which may require an OS version you ain't got, etc).
Well, there's the Metro, Metro, Metro, Sausage, Eggs, and Metro...
Seriously? Unless they radically alter how these things are built and networked, all it would take is one disgruntled cashier (or one willing to accept a percent of the take) + one register that isn't quite visible from the cameras + one appropriately-loaded USB stick (or similar device).
I never said that welfare was the only cause - now the welfare state on the other hand was a large contributing factor.
Detroit collapsed because people left as the auto industry there was collapsing.
So what did they bring in to replace it? Numerous cities had to cope with the loss of manufacturing (of various industries), so why did Detroit fail so spectacularly?
I see you're believing the lie. Good job!
You know, you might have a point except for one word: Detroit.
No republican has held any kind of office in that city since the 1950's. The democrats set the policies, and ran the government there. They ballooned the welfare state there to unimaginable proportions. They have no one to blame but themselves.
That's fine in theory. Except for the fact that the people that want to gut Food Stamps also want to destroy sex education and any form of family planning.
To be fair, there's also that not-having-sex-until-marriage part, not to mention promoting fatherhood (as opposed to just being a "baby daddy") but please - feel free to overgeneralize. ;)
All of the fat asses will have less food. If they want better nutrition maybe they should get a better job.
Well, one small problem... okay, a couple:
Grocery stores are a bit rare in the ghetto, and those few which exist usually charge exorbitant prices while providing very little in the way of variety (and don't ask about the produce.)
Most of these mothers have a shit education courtesy of public schooling (assuming the mother actually completed high school - usually she didn't), so "dinner" usually means fast-food takeout, or whatever the local bodega has in the way of food (imagine growing up on convenience store burritos and soda every night...)
Jobs suck in depressed areas - triply so if you have no education.
Moving (or even saving up enough money to do that) is a trial at best - especially when you consider that most "services" in depressed areas are geared towards screwing over the poor (see also payday loans, credit cards, etc).
Finally, the capper: government assistance sucks. It is geared towards insuring that once you are on it, you never come off of it. The moment you start making any money, you get taxed hard, you lose the assistance funding, and they kick you out of that government-assisted housing. Oh, and since you haven't the education or funds to access tax specialists or any other real option, you're basically fucked and stuck.
Now this isn't always the case - with the help of family, you can pull yourself out of such straits. However, because family has been pretty much obliterated over the decades in these areas by the lack of fathers, and by an overweening demand by certain ideologues that family is an anachronism? Well, it's part of how you wind up with a permanent underclass. ...and no one seems to want to fix this. The right wants to cut down funds in order to force initiative and drive, while the left wants to smooth over it with more money. To be honest, neither answer is correct - but a hybrid of the two would work well, if done right. Put a time limit on the funds, but require the recipient take classes, look for work, etc - then provide enough assistance towards the end so that the newly-working single mother isn't faced with instant penalties just for making a paycheck.
Any cites for that so-called fact. MAC's are closed systems with a much more engineered life span than a clone PC.
Here are the longest-lived OEM-made machines I've ever owned:
1994 Apple PowerBook (gave it away to a kid in 2005. The battery was crap by that point, but otherwise it still ran just fine with OS7.)
2004 Dual G5 PowerMac (gave it away early 2013, still in perfect working order, running OSX 10.5)
2000 Mac Cube (I modified the hell out of it, but eventually sold it in 2004 to a DJ for $800 on eBay.)
By comparison:
2001 Dell Inspiron 8100 (gave it to a relative in 2004, and she reported that the screen blew out in 2005.)
2011 Samsung RC-512 (the CPU kept kicking off the thermal safeties - nursed it along, but finally had to dump it in mid-2013.)
2011 Compaq (bought it for the wife - it simply died in mid-2013.)
No it won't. It will become obsolete faster as it's completely unmaintainable.
Assuming the non-geeks even bother to upgrade anything (the vast majority don't, but let's assume for a moment:)
Software maintenance? I could be running a 2007-era Intel MBP right now and still use the latest OS version, binaries, etc. Let me read that to you in practical terms: I can be using the latest OS/apps on a 7-year-old Apple laptop.
Hardware Maintenance? Wait, what's the point? For Macs, you usually just slap more RAM and/or a bigger HDD in it, and you're good for another year or three before performance suffers enough to force an upgrade.
The one and only real issue I'd seen with Macs and obsolescence as per hardware? The switch from PPC (G4/5) to Intel, but evne that was smoothed over for a few years with fat binaries. This allowed me to keep a 2004 vintage dual G5 desktop running just fine until I gave it away earlier this year due to performance gripes.
With a PC, I can do this myself or pay someone else. This isn't an option with a Mac.
Wrong-O; if you want to swap mobos on an HP or Dell desktop, you're stuck in the same boat, because the parts are proprietary enough to require you go to them for the goods (assuming thos parts are still for sale.) Laptops even moreso.
Now if you're white-boxing it, that's a whole different story - but you're still paying anyway just to chase the bleeding edge.
Macs were the anomaly in all this - their "PC" sales went up 26% over the same time period.
Ultimate source is Gartner, but found the info here: linky
Also, if kept reasonably clean, a Mac will last way longer than the typical OEM box/laptop.
Otherwise, in the PC realm? Yeah... over the past few years, I've just bought laptops as needed, and aside from my last purchase (because the old laptop was failing), that's been farther and fewer between.
In other news, there is also the Tablet Effect; my wife went from a laptop to an iPad 4 last year, and it seems to suit her perfectly.
Every contracting company has had goofs, but it's hard to come up with a bigger boner than blowing up an entire stock market for a whole day, causing multi-billions in pounds of lost trade to fly up a bird's backside (see also the LSE and TradElect.)
Microsoft and Accenture sucked that one down hard, and I don't think Microsoft ever had the cojones to go near stock exchanges ever since.
You are correct, but hiring a contractor with some rather spectacular failures (and numerous smaller ones) isn't exactly going to fix that...
There is nothing wrong with the IIS platform. Accenture is the issue. The vast majority of their PM team cannot find their dick with both hands.
Never said it was wrong or right - but it's a common trick with large contractors to declare your existing platform obsolete, insecure, or underpowered, and (after you signed the contract) demand that you shove over to their preferred platform. Of course, they'll point to some esoteric half-hidden legalese thing in the contract that your non-tech legal department completely glossed over, and you never got to see.
This means they get extra money, more time to ETA, and they move you to whatever they're more comfortable with. It also has the danger of locking you in even tighter come the next contract renewal.
I think the mod meant to give it a +1 YouGottaBeShittingMe, but forgot that Slashdot doesn't have that in the options.
No shit.
(...wait, let me guess - they'll want to move the whole damned thing to an IIS platform too, right?)
Why would a Python install break something, if it's installed side by side with your app?
...as long as everything you call script/daemon-wise reads "python27 /path/to/my/new_product.py" , sure.
Unless you want the sysadmins to love the idea of re-jiggering links. 'course, that might break dependent packages, other python bits running on the same box, etc.