After using Windows 10 on my work computer for a few months I was pretty happy with it - it seemed like the worst parts of 8 had been fixed and many UI improvements were made - multiple desktops, a taskbar that is duplicated on additional monitors etc. I was planning on updating my home computer with 10, but held off, so it's still running 8.1 which I finally have mostly gotten used to. Strangely, I haven't been bothered at all to upgrade to 10 on my home computer, though both of my wife's computers are telling her to upgrade from 7.
If MS is forcing a 6GB download in the background, that might explain the odd slow speeds I have seen occasionally, and it's definitely a bad move by MS, but I'd say that the alternative is Linux, or live with the nags. Still better than apple!
So I'm just curious, what would Microsoft have to do for you to say "That crossed the line, that's too much"? Because routing around your manual settings to avoid being forced an update and then attempting to force a 6 GB update on you apparently isn't it.
Probably because use of the software implies agreement to their terms. This imaginary butthurt is the stuff I can't tolerate. 99% of this coming from people who don't even run windows. It's the same way Apple has basically full ownership of you, your itunes content, and your dirty socks. You agreed to it by not reading the agreement.
That said..... I think we do have a class action case here, but only for those people on metered internet.
So I'm just curious, what would Microsoft have to do for you to say "That crossed the line, that's too much"? Because routing around your manual settings to avoid being forced an update and then attempting to force a 6 GB update on you apparently isn't it.
Microsoft is tired of supporting old ass insecure software. They can't rely on people who won't run patches, so they are going the Apple route. They know what you need, just submit and deal with it.
I like Windows 10, using it on my surface 4 right now. Edge isn't awful, but I still use FF and Chrome.
I would say that let the upgrade happen, and while it's happening, adjust the onion on your belt and go outside and yell at some clouds.
So I'm just curious, what would Microsoft have to do for you to say "That crossed the line, that's too much"? Because routing around your manual settings to avoid being forced an update and then attempting to force a 6 GB update on you apparently isn't it.
Unfortunately, the default install of Windows 7 and 8.1 will have "Install updates automatically" on by default. And if you turn it off, the "action center" will warn you that it's a terrible decision and you should turn them back on. That will scare >90% of people into keeping them on.
Some people are outraged, but there's also a lot of comments to the effect of "so what" and "stop being a geezer and just update already". Thoroughly disturbing. Imagine if you told your dentist that you didn't really want your cavity fixed right now, and in response he said "Sure, no problem", proceeded to anesthetize you, do the surgery, leave you the bill, and threaten to detonate a grenade in your mouth if you disputed the bill.
My office paid good money for several copies of Windows 7, because that's the only OS that our software is certified to run on. Microsoft has guaranteed four more years of security updates for Win7. So why exactly should we drop several hundred grand to update? Because you think we're geezers? Well, if you'd like to pay for the update yourself, by all means.
Probably because use of the software implies agreement to their terms. This imaginary butthurt is the stuff I can't tolerate. 99% of this coming from people who don't even run windows. It's the same way Apple has basically full ownership of you, your itunes content, and your dirty socks. You agreed to it by not reading the agreement.
That said..... I think we do have a class action case here, but only for those people on metered internet.
I guess I am the 1%. I am the admin in an office that needs Windows 7 -- our legacy software *will not run* on Windows 10. And I live in constant terror that no matter what settings I alter or updates I decline, that I'm going to walk in some Monday morning and find that Windows 10 rammed itself onto every computer.
In no OS I have ever used, except Windows 7 and 8.1, can the user manually tune their system settings to avoid getting updates, but then updates being rammed down your throat anyway--in such a way, no less, that specifically routes around the advice that the company gave you to avoid those very updates.
So you're fine with the fact that Microsoft sent down an update, with no description appended to it, which bypasses your settings and downloads 6 GB of crap without telling you?
One would think. Unfortunately, even if one opts to decline and "hide" KB3035583, Windows 7 and 8.1 will try to reinstall it if the system's setting is "Install updates automatically". So basically, the only way to avoid the bastard is to turn off automatic updating, and manually opt to "hide" KB3035583 every time Windows wants to reinstall it. (I imagine that the reason it keeps popping back up in the update ledger is because Microsoft is changing it, i.e. "updating the update". I also am assuming that Microsoft is avoiding issuing it a version number to intentionally keep this whole matter obscure, but I can't say for certain.)
Use Carbon (Titanium is superior if you're already rooted, but Carbon should do the trick). Try deleting an app and restoring it from backup as a test. Unfortunately there's no way to be 100% sure unless you test every single app you wanted to backup, but that's true of all backup systems unfortunately.
I have toss my perfectly good Galaxy Nexus into the bin, and buy a new phone? How sweet! The upgrade treadmill is fully operational..
I'm not happy that Google doesn't update the Galaxy Nexus anymore, but you still have CyanogenMod if you want to keep getting security updates for your phone: http://download.cyanogenmod.co...
The default setting is on for MMS apps including the built in Google ones.
"but so long as one turns off auto-retrieving MMS files, you're in no danger from it"
The vast majority of people aren't going to do this. He is in danger even if he doesn't think he is receiving MMS, because they receive MMS automatically by default.
And yes, Google tracks you server side. You cannot turn off the tracking. You are naiive if you think you can.
Um, okay? Nobody says security is idiot proof. There's plenty of ways to get iOS fucked as well, if you're talking about unwise decisions that the vast majority of people will do. My only point was that Android is not insurmountably insecure.
MS Windows Vista is supposed to get security updates until April 2017, but they can't get IE10 or 11, and now IE9 is end-of-life. Keep that in mind when Microsoft promises to "support your device through its lifetime" or whatever bullshit.
That means end users will be able to use these to root their devices for the next 12-18 months since the patches won't be applied by most OEM's before then. On the downside it means you can be spearfished through an MMS.
Perhaps I'm misreading your post, but you seem very confused. Unlike jailbreaking iPhones, where one has to find some tiny privilege escalation vulnerability before Apple does and then abuse it to flash a custom ROM, Android is designed to allow rooting fairly easily. In fact, Google themselves provide a page that gives layman instructions to how to unlock the bootloader and flash the stock ROM for their Nexus devices (https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images); that includes all the latest security updates, so rooting is unnecessary, but doing so from there is trivial. It's a little bit more complicated than that if one has a non-Nexus devices, but not prohibitively so.
Please don't give security advice when you don't know what you're talking about. MMS is only a vulnerability insofar that it can embed a dangerous file, but so long as one turns off auto-retrieving MMS files, you're in no danger from it. "Google logs everything you do" is not a security risk, it's a privacy risk, but AFAIK all of the telemetry and cloud services can be turned off if you're willing to tinker with the right settings (unlike Windows 10, which lies to you and tells you the telemetry is off when it isn't).
Claws Mail is a good option. It might not have all the features that Thunderbird does, but the important things are that it's FLOSS, supports encryption, and "just works".
Sorry, I don't particularly think elementaryOS is beautiful. It basically is just a knock-off of OS X's aesthetics. Midori is not a bad browser, but it doesn't have the same power as Chromium or Firefox; the creators only included it as the default because its UI is the same as Safari's. Same for its music player, control panel, and file manager. Plus there's a lot of annoyances abound in this distro, such as no preinstalled office suite (from what I can tell).
Basically, it might be a good OS for the specific niche goal of needing Linux to wear the flesh of OS X, but beyond that, it's nothing special.
Which *BSD or Linux forces OS and driver updates without giving the user the ability to stop it? Which *BSD or Linux monetizes the users' personal information by sending it to 100+ domains? Which *BSD or Linux ships with ads integrated into the GUI?
Removing the telemetry in Windows 7 and 8.1 is possible if you know what you're doing (unlike Windows 10, at least so far). See here: https://gist.github.com/xvital...
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After using Windows 10 on my work computer for a few months I was pretty happy with it - it seemed like the worst parts of 8 had been fixed and many UI improvements were made - multiple desktops, a taskbar that is duplicated on additional monitors etc. I was planning on updating my home computer with 10, but held off, so it's still running 8.1 which I finally have mostly gotten used to. Strangely, I haven't been bothered at all to upgrade to 10 on my home computer, though both of my wife's computers are telling her to upgrade from 7. If MS is forcing a 6GB download in the background, that might explain the odd slow speeds I have seen occasionally, and it's definitely a bad move by MS, but I'd say that the alternative is Linux, or live with the nags. Still better than apple!
So I'm just curious, what would Microsoft have to do for you to say "That crossed the line, that's too much"? Because routing around your manual settings to avoid being forced an update and then attempting to force a 6 GB update on you apparently isn't it.
Probably because use of the software implies agreement to their terms. This imaginary butthurt is the stuff I can't tolerate. 99% of this coming from people who don't even run windows. It's the same way Apple has basically full ownership of you, your itunes content, and your dirty socks. You agreed to it by not reading the agreement. That said..... I think we do have a class action case here, but only for those people on metered internet.
So I'm just curious, what would Microsoft have to do for you to say "That crossed the line, that's too much"? Because routing around your manual settings to avoid being forced an update and then attempting to force a 6 GB update on you apparently isn't it.
Microsoft is tired of supporting old ass insecure software. They can't rely on people who won't run patches, so they are going the Apple route. They know what you need, just submit and deal with it.
I like Windows 10, using it on my surface 4 right now. Edge isn't awful, but I still use FF and Chrome.
I would say that let the upgrade happen, and while it's happening, adjust the onion on your belt and go outside and yell at some clouds.
So I'm just curious, what would Microsoft have to do for you to say "That crossed the line, that's too much"? Because routing around your manual settings to avoid being forced an update and then attempting to force a 6 GB update on you apparently isn't it.
Unfortunately, the default install of Windows 7 and 8.1 will have "Install updates automatically" on by default. And if you turn it off, the "action center" will warn you that it's a terrible decision and you should turn them back on. That will scare >90% of people into keeping them on.
Some people are outraged, but there's also a lot of comments to the effect of "so what" and "stop being a geezer and just update already". Thoroughly disturbing. Imagine if you told your dentist that you didn't really want your cavity fixed right now, and in response he said "Sure, no problem", proceeded to anesthetize you, do the surgery, leave you the bill, and threaten to detonate a grenade in your mouth if you disputed the bill.
My office paid good money for several copies of Windows 7, because that's the only OS that our software is certified to run on. Microsoft has guaranteed four more years of security updates for Win7. So why exactly should we drop several hundred grand to update? Because you think we're geezers? Well, if you'd like to pay for the update yourself, by all means.
Probably because use of the software implies agreement to their terms. This imaginary butthurt is the stuff I can't tolerate. 99% of this coming from people who don't even run windows. It's the same way Apple has basically full ownership of you, your itunes content, and your dirty socks. You agreed to it by not reading the agreement. That said..... I think we do have a class action case here, but only for those people on metered internet.
I guess I am the 1%. I am the admin in an office that needs Windows 7 -- our legacy software *will not run* on Windows 10. And I live in constant terror that no matter what settings I alter or updates I decline, that I'm going to walk in some Monday morning and find that Windows 10 rammed itself onto every computer.
In no OS I have ever used, except Windows 7 and 8.1, can the user manually tune their system settings to avoid getting updates, but then updates being rammed down your throat anyway--in such a way, no less, that specifically routes around the advice that the company gave you to avoid those very updates.
It's not wrong. I have set KB3035583 to "Hidden" and it pops up in my update ledger again and again.
So you're OK with the fact that Microsoft will bypass your settings and download 6 GB without prompting you?
So you're fine with the fact that Microsoft sent down an update, with no description appended to it, which bypasses your settings and downloads 6 GB of crap without telling you?
So, just uninstall that update?
One would think. Unfortunately, even if one opts to decline and "hide" KB3035583, Windows 7 and 8.1 will try to reinstall it if the system's setting is "Install updates automatically". So basically, the only way to avoid the bastard is to turn off automatic updating, and manually opt to "hide" KB3035583 every time Windows wants to reinstall it. (I imagine that the reason it keeps popping back up in the update ledger is because Microsoft is changing it, i.e. "updating the update". I also am assuming that Microsoft is avoiding issuing it a version number to intentionally keep this whole matter obscure, but I can't say for certain.)
Use Carbon (Titanium is superior if you're already rooted, but Carbon should do the trick). Try deleting an app and restoring it from backup as a test. Unfortunately there's no way to be 100% sure unless you test every single app you wanted to backup, but that's true of all backup systems unfortunately.
I have toss my perfectly good Galaxy Nexus into the bin, and buy a new phone? How sweet! The upgrade treadmill is fully operational..
I'm not happy that Google doesn't update the Galaxy Nexus anymore, but you still have CyanogenMod if you want to keep getting security updates for your phone: http://download.cyanogenmod.co...
The default setting is on for MMS apps including the built in Google ones. "but so long as one turns off auto-retrieving MMS files, you're in no danger from it" The vast majority of people aren't going to do this. He is in danger even if he doesn't think he is receiving MMS, because they receive MMS automatically by default. And yes, Google tracks you server side. You cannot turn off the tracking. You are naiive if you think you can.
Um, okay? Nobody says security is idiot proof. There's plenty of ways to get iOS fucked as well, if you're talking about unwise decisions that the vast majority of people will do. My only point was that Android is not insurmountably insecure.
MS Windows Vista is supposed to get security updates until April 2017, but they can't get IE10 or 11, and now IE9 is end-of-life. Keep that in mind when Microsoft promises to "support your device through its lifetime" or whatever bullshit.
That means end users will be able to use these to root their devices for the next 12-18 months since the patches won't be applied by most OEM's before then. On the downside it means you can be spearfished through an MMS.
Perhaps I'm misreading your post, but you seem very confused. Unlike jailbreaking iPhones, where one has to find some tiny privilege escalation vulnerability before Apple does and then abuse it to flash a custom ROM, Android is designed to allow rooting fairly easily. In fact, Google themselves provide a page that gives layman instructions to how to unlock the bootloader and flash the stock ROM for their Nexus devices (https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images); that includes all the latest security updates, so rooting is unnecessary, but doing so from there is trivial. It's a little bit more complicated than that if one has a non-Nexus devices, but not prohibitively so.
You're right for the crappo sub-$100 phones, but flagships and Nexus devices do get the security updates.
Please don't give security advice when you don't know what you're talking about. MMS is only a vulnerability insofar that it can embed a dangerous file, but so long as one turns off auto-retrieving MMS files, you're in no danger from it. "Google logs everything you do" is not a security risk, it's a privacy risk, but AFAIK all of the telemetry and cloud services can be turned off if you're willing to tinker with the right settings (unlike Windows 10, which lies to you and tells you the telemetry is off when it isn't).
Claws Mail is a good option. It might not have all the features that Thunderbird does, but the important things are that it's FLOSS, supports encryption, and "just works".
Alternatively, just use webmail. These are the best options: https://www.privacytools.io/#e...
Try Ubuntu MATE.
Sorry, I don't particularly think elementaryOS is beautiful. It basically is just a knock-off of OS X's aesthetics. Midori is not a bad browser, but it doesn't have the same power as Chromium or Firefox; the creators only included it as the default because its UI is the same as Safari's. Same for its music player, control panel, and file manager. Plus there's a lot of annoyances abound in this distro, such as no preinstalled office suite (from what I can tell).
Basically, it might be a good OS for the specific niche goal of needing Linux to wear the flesh of OS X, but beyond that, it's nothing special.
Most people didn't install the OS. It came preinstalled on their computer. They never agreed to any EULA when they bought the machine.
Which *BSD or Linux forces OS and driver updates without giving the user the ability to stop it? Which *BSD or Linux monetizes the users' personal information by sending it to 100+ domains? Which *BSD or Linux ships with ads integrated into the GUI?
Removing the telemetry in Windows 7 and 8.1 is possible if you know what you're doing (unlike Windows 10, at least so far). See here: https://gist.github.com/xvital...