yea, but Segways are so much more 'advanced' and are only for the 'enlightened'. if you are not 'enlightened' you are not allowed on one. the laws of greenpeace forbid it.
If they were not secure to start with how is it "extra" work to secure them?
Yes, your new examples just show that I need to exercise the proper care with my affairs and I incurred more trouble by leaving my things laying about. It is still not "extra" work that should be "payed for" by others.
It seeks to record every bit of information that can be had, index it by name, or SSN, or even location, and make the database searchable.
Huh? I have never heard of a database that was not searchable. I have run across a few that were real messes, but all were searchable even if the person inputing the data messed it all up (still searchable, just not too useable).
According to the spec above, both the Social Security Administration and the Internal Revenue 'Service' have existing databases that meet this portion of the requirement. However, there is that little detail of data accuracy.
Thank goodness they are not asking for something to track all the folks that refuse to participate in the system, as that would be REALLY hard.
how? well that company has to do something about the hacked server (lots don't, they should) such as re-install, spend time fixing it, check logs, run extra checks on any other servers on the network. This all takes someones time and costs someone money.
Do you mean like when I leave the front door to my apartment open and someone comes in, leaves traces of his presence, takes nothing and leaves, I then have to remember to use the lock I have on the front door to begin with? Even (ghasp) remember to set the alarm that came with the apartment anyway?
Or, if I leave my vehicle unlocked, someone comes in and shuffles the trash around, then leaves without taking anything. I then need to remember to lock the doors, close the windows, etc, right?
I am kind of lost on how those cost me money.
The only reason your example costs anybody any money is because they did not do things correctly to start with.
Now, if you were using an example where data were vandalized, stolen, etc. and used a similar example I would probably agree with you.
Actually, in the Mitnick case, there was a good helping of the FBI 'coaching' the firms on how to claim damage. IIRC, none of them came back to the FBI with what the FBI wanted to hear, so they were told to use full development costs as the damage estimate. Some of the accounts that I read, quite some time ago now, the folks having to deal with the FBI seemed to be getting fed up (hey! nuce pun! just noticed in preview) with the nonsense.
This shady appraisal work was most glairing with the SUN damage estimate of >$20Million(?) for source code that could be purchased for much less and was given away free to educational institutions.
Even though I have always advocated that Kevin should have done some time for his harassing phone calls to Shimomura, around 90 days, I have yet to see any true financial damages that he caused anybody.
All of my Cricket knowledge comes from 'The Young Ones" episode, Summer Holiday, where Vyvyan and Mike use Rick as the stumps, then light Rick's pants on fire after the match. Two points for knocking over a hippie, but would have been six if Vyvyan would have killed Neil.
reduce the costs of making silicon -- and other elements, like zirconium
Fake diamonds and fake racks drop in price, the pr0n wars begin! Scratching and clawing for territory, kicking for market share, it is an all girl-on-girl cage match!
Umm, what government subsizied Herndon, VA, suburb of Washington DC?
Hint, it was NOT Washington, DC.
Answer, it was the people that live in Herndon, VA. They decided they wanted a town, incopropated it, created a tax system, they even have their own police force that the people that live there pay for themselves.
Washington DC is a net recipient of the taxes of everyplace around it as well as the entire nation. Same with other big cities that have federal monies for public transport, etc.
Camden NJ sure as heck is not subsidized by Philly either.
Unincorporated areas? The developer usually has to pay to get the utilities brought in AND usually has to pay for road improvements in the general area, all of this being passed to the residents in the cost of the homes.
In the US the roads you are complaining about being "subsidized" are normally payed for by the people who live around them and the people that use them. Longer roads, like Interstate Highways are payed for IN PART by the tax payer portion of the US, maintenance through fuel taxes, etc.
Public bus riders pay little or nothing for the roads they ride on. Yes! True! The bus they ride in contributes nothing to the road funds. No State or local fuel taxes are payed for by the bus service, nor by the riders. The public bus services are subsidized by the fuel taxes that individual motorists pay through fuel taxes, same with commuter trains, to make up for the losses they rack up because they will not charge their riders the total cost of a ride.
Bike riders? Unless they are paying some sort of regestration that goes to the bike trails then they are not paying any more than a tourist or a recluse home owner. If they are on a road they can thank the motorists on that road for it.
Wherever some people get the idea that a subdivision was somehow "created" wiith the tax dollars of the big city up the road I will never know, but that ain't the way it is.
Now, you probably already knew all of this so please quit trying to fool others with your stories.
That was quite funny! I hope you are modded up for your efforts.
P.s. what do your kids do when they are too old to 'play?'
Well, if they are male are they ever too old to play? Mine is in college now.
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As far as getting spanked for spiking or dumping, that is an international trade issue and is only brought up when the country getting the dumped goods complains/puts up trade barriers.
I don't really know of anything in the US that prevents having a loss-leader ofr a product line (but there may be something out there).
Even GM did it with their X-body(?) cars in the 80's. If you bought one "base" it cost you less than it cost them. As soon as you started adding options (including GMAC financing), they started running a profit.
Engaging in newspeak by calling single-family housing and suburbs "sprawl" is nothing but a distraction. It certainly is nothing like forcing someone to live in a filthy down-town cattle pen, aka, a high-rise.
I did not tell that fellow to stay in the city and nobody is marching him out to the suburbs at the point of a gun, 1950's style China.
It is quite amazing that some of you folks wish to turn any disagreement into some imposition on your "rights". Well, here is a newsflash for you, you have no right to make me agree with you. It does not matter how gutter you wish to speak, it won't change that fact.
If some people wish to live in gated communities who are you to prevent them?
If people want to live in less densly populated areas, have a nice home and a yard, let the kids play, a seperate bedroom for every kid, a workshop for every parent, a media room, etc. somehow that is some kind of threat to you? How about being able to open a window below the 20th floor without choking on the smell of fermented human urine, who are you to tell them no?
Oh, and if you don't want every piled into a big city, but you don't want them escaping to the suburbs, then good luck. Here on earth things are different.
BTW, if suburbs are so roundly hated, why do so many people live there by choice?
Please, run along with your Communistic ideals. Individuals do not need a central committee to make their housing arrangements.
Unfortunately, riders and pedestrians do all of that in the street here in Northern VA/DC area. The other day I had to negotiate a bike rider, in full "cross country" gear, riding up the wrong way on the exit ramp from a large highway near my place (Fairfax County Parkway, Reston/Baron Cameron northbound exit). Of course, there is a super-wide, multi-use bike/pedesterian "highway" 20' away from him parallel to his path.
Too bad I have a kind heart and a sharp eye or he would have been the latest edition to the front of my Jeep.
Even if it were Segways it should be fine to drive them on the same roads as everybody else, as long as they keep to the side like all slower-moving transport is supposed to do.
One thing that annoys me, well, all over the US, is bikes on the street, right next to a good bike path, and people in the street right next to a good sidewalk.
Yes and he pulled that from real life from when he worked at the BBC. Room 101 was the room where the editors worked.
Many of his experiences from the BBC and other places made it into his books, like the cleaning women singing in the halls in thee early morning hours became the proles singing in 1984. Bad, sand-dry tobacco during the Spanish Revolution-Civil-War (Homage to Catalonia) that ran out of the cigarette before you could smoke it became Victory cigarettes in 1984, etc.
Wow! That was about as authoritative as using the WWP as a source for union issues, WSWS as a source for Economics, or Pacifica Radio as a source for ANYTHING to do with free choice.
Nice try though.
BTW, your in your sig, you use the same time tested method, well documented by George Orwell and others, that the Communist press has been using for ages to cease arguement. Then again, that is what you used when you invoked the dreaded "sprawl" word.
As Orwell wrote, in the closing passages of chapter XI, in Homage to Catalonia: "It is as though in the middle of a chess tournament one competitor should suddenly begin screaming that the other is guilty of arson or bigamy. The point that is really at issue remains untouched. Libel settles nothing."
What portion of your tax-dollars are spent on highways, bi-ways, 4lane roads and other elements of urban-sprawl?
The part payed for by my fuel taxes. Unfortunately, much of that gets robbed for bike trails, METRO rail and busses (exempt from the fule taxes of course) and a host of other things that I rarely use, but I pay for them whether I use them or not.
Here we go again with this taste/fashion arguement of "sprawl", that has beed defined every bit as well as "saturday night special", i.e., it is just a libel without definition.
Believe it or not, many people do not want to live in large cities. We have different tastes than you do, so please stop trying to impose your "taste" on us.
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Apparently the old adage "A fool and his money are soon venture capital" does not apply here :-)
The folks in Northern Virginia have already found a solution to this. They buy HUMMER H2s instead of Segways.
:-)
BTW, the H2 is as big as a house and covered by auto insurance
yea, but Segways are so much more 'advanced' and are only for the 'enlightened'. if you are not 'enlightened' you are not allowed on one. the laws of greenpeace forbid it.
Then allow me to simplify:
If they were not secure to start with how is it "extra" work to secure them?
Yes, your new examples just show that I need to exercise the proper care with my affairs and I incurred more trouble by leaving my things laying about. It is still not "extra" work that should be "payed for" by others.
It seeks to record every bit of information that can be had, index it by name, or SSN, or even location, and make the database searchable.
Huh? I have never heard of a database that was not searchable. I have run across a few that were real messes, but all were searchable even if the person inputing the data messed it all up (still searchable, just not too useable).
According to the spec above, both the Social Security Administration and the Internal Revenue 'Service' have existing databases that meet this portion of the requirement. However, there is that little detail of data accuracy.
Thank goodness they are not asking for something to track all the folks that refuse to participate in the system, as that would be REALLY hard.
how? well that company has to do something about the hacked server (lots don't, they should) such as re-install, spend time fixing it, check logs, run extra checks on any other servers on the network. This all takes someones time and costs someone money.
Do you mean like when I leave the front door to my apartment open and someone comes in, leaves traces of his presence, takes nothing and leaves, I then have to remember to use the lock I have on the front door to begin with? Even (ghasp) remember to set the alarm that came with the apartment anyway?
Or, if I leave my vehicle unlocked, someone comes in and shuffles the trash around, then leaves without taking anything. I then need to remember to lock the doors, close the windows, etc, right?
I am kind of lost on how those cost me money.
The only reason your example costs anybody any money is because they did not do things correctly to start with.
Now, if you were using an example where data were vandalized, stolen, etc. and used a similar example I would probably agree with you.
Actually, in the Mitnick case, there was a good helping of the FBI 'coaching' the firms on how to claim damage. IIRC, none of them came back to the FBI with what the FBI wanted to hear, so they were told to use full development costs as the damage estimate. Some of the accounts that I read, quite some time ago now, the folks having to deal with the FBI seemed to be getting fed up (hey! nuce pun! just noticed in preview) with the nonsense.
This shady appraisal work was most glairing with the SUN damage estimate of >$20Million(?) for source code that could be purchased for much less and was given away free to educational institutions.
Even though I have always advocated that Kevin should have done some time for his harassing phone calls to Shimomura, around 90 days, I have yet to see any true financial damages that he caused anybody.
Yea, great. Then you will just put a hole in the earth and let all the gravity out!
Outdoor Enclosures for 802.11b Equipment?
Well, since it is Minnesota I suggest an Iron Oxide and Aluminum enclosure. But this still may not be warm enough for winter time in MN.
All of my Cricket knowledge comes from 'The Young Ones" episode, Summer Holiday, where Vyvyan and Mike use Rick as the stumps, then light Rick's pants on fire after the match. Two points for knocking over a hippie, but would have been six if Vyvyan would have killed Neil.
reduce the costs of making silicon -- and other elements, like zirconium
Fake diamonds and fake racks drop in price, the pr0n wars begin! Scratching and clawing for territory, kicking for market share, it is an all girl-on-girl cage match!
Umm, what government subsizied Herndon, VA, suburb of Washington DC?
Hint, it was NOT Washington, DC.
Answer, it was the people that live in Herndon, VA. They decided they wanted a town, incopropated it, created a tax system, they even have their own police force that the people that live there pay for themselves.
Washington DC is a net recipient of the taxes of everyplace around it as well as the entire nation. Same with other big cities that have federal monies for public transport, etc.
Camden NJ sure as heck is not subsidized by Philly either.
Unincorporated areas? The developer usually has to pay to get the utilities brought in AND usually has to pay for road improvements in the general area, all of this being passed to the residents in the cost of the homes.
In the US the roads you are complaining about being "subsidized" are normally payed for by the people who live around them and the people that use them. Longer roads, like Interstate Highways are payed for IN PART by the tax payer portion of the US, maintenance through fuel taxes, etc.
Public bus riders pay little or nothing for the roads they ride on. Yes! True! The bus they ride in contributes nothing to the road funds. No State or local fuel taxes are payed for by the bus service, nor by the riders. The public bus services are subsidized by the fuel taxes that individual motorists pay through fuel taxes, same with commuter trains, to make up for the losses they rack up because they will not charge their riders the total cost of a ride.
Bike riders? Unless they are paying some sort of regestration that goes to the bike trails then they are not paying any more than a tourist or a recluse home owner. If they are on a road they can thank the motorists on that road for it.
Wherever some people get the idea that a subdivision was somehow "created" wiith the tax dollars of the big city up the road I will never know, but that ain't the way it is.
Now, you probably already knew all of this so please quit trying to fool others with your stories.
That was quite funny! I hope you are modded up for your efforts.
P.s. what do your kids do when they are too old to 'play?'
Well, if they are male are they ever too old to play? Mine is in college now.
As far as getting spanked for spiking or dumping, that is an international trade issue and is only brought up when the country getting the dumped goods complains/puts up trade barriers.
I don't really know of anything in the US that prevents having a loss-leader ofr a product line (but there may be something out there).
Even GM did it with their X-body(?) cars in the 80's. If you bought one "base" it cost you less than it cost them. As soon as you started adding options (including GMAC financing), they started running a profit.
Wow, you are really out there.
Engaging in newspeak by calling single-family housing and suburbs "sprawl" is nothing but a distraction. It certainly is nothing like forcing someone to live in a filthy down-town cattle pen, aka, a high-rise.
I did not tell that fellow to stay in the city and nobody is marching him out to the suburbs at the point of a gun, 1950's style China.
It is quite amazing that some of you folks wish to turn any disagreement into some imposition on your "rights". Well, here is a newsflash for you, you have no right to make me agree with you. It does not matter how gutter you wish to speak, it won't change that fact.
If some people wish to live in gated communities who are you to prevent them?
If people want to live in less densly populated areas, have a nice home and a yard, let the kids play, a seperate bedroom for every kid, a workshop for every parent, a media room, etc. somehow that is some kind of threat to you? How about being able to open a window below the 20th floor without choking on the smell of fermented human urine, who are you to tell them no?
Oh, and if you don't want every piled into a big city, but you don't want them escaping to the suburbs, then good luck. Here on earth things are different.
BTW, if suburbs are so roundly hated, why do so many people live there by choice?
Please, run along with your Communistic ideals. Individuals do not need a central committee to make their housing arrangements.
Unfortunately, riders and pedestrians do all of that in the street here in Northern VA/DC area. The other day I had to negotiate a bike rider, in full "cross country" gear, riding up the wrong way on the exit ramp from a large highway near my place (Fairfax County Parkway, Reston/Baron Cameron northbound exit). Of course, there is a super-wide, multi-use bike/pedesterian "highway" 20' away from him parallel to his path.
Too bad I have a kind heart and a sharp eye or he would have been the latest edition to the front of my Jeep.
Even if it were Segways it should be fine to drive them on the same roads as everybody else, as long as they keep to the side like all slower-moving transport is supposed to do.
One thing that annoys me, well, all over the US, is bikes on the street, right next to a good bike path, and people in the street right next to a good sidewalk.
LOL! Excuse me? That is very cute.
I do not wish to force others to live anyplace they decide not to choose on their own. Please point out where I have advocated any such thing?
Yes and he pulled that from real life from when he worked at the BBC. Room 101 was the room where the editors worked.
Many of his experiences from the BBC and other places made it into his books, like the cleaning women singing in the halls in thee early morning hours became the proles singing in 1984. Bad, sand-dry tobacco during the Spanish Revolution-Civil-War (Homage to Catalonia) that ran out of the cigarette before you could smoke it became Victory cigarettes in 1984, etc.
Good catch!
Wow! That was about as authoritative as using the WWP as a source for union issues, WSWS as a source for Economics, or Pacifica Radio as a source for ANYTHING to do with free choice.
Nice try though.
BTW, your in your sig, you use the same time tested method, well documented by George Orwell and others, that the Communist press has been using for ages to cease arguement. Then again, that is what you used when you invoked the dreaded "sprawl" word.
As Orwell wrote, in the closing passages of chapter XI, in Homage to Catalonia: "It is as though in the middle of a chess tournament one competitor should suddenly begin screaming that the other is guilty of arson or bigamy. The point that is really at issue remains untouched. Libel settles nothing."
What portion of your tax-dollars are spent on highways, bi-ways, 4lane roads and other elements of urban-sprawl?
The part payed for by my fuel taxes. Unfortunately, much of that gets robbed for bike trails, METRO rail and busses (exempt from the fule taxes of course) and a host of other things that I rarely use, but I pay for them whether I use them or not.
Here we go again with this taste/fashion arguement of "sprawl", that has beed defined every bit as well as "saturday night special", i.e., it is just a libel without definition.
Believe it or not, many people do not want to live in large cities. We have different tastes than you do, so please stop trying to impose your "taste" on us.
Aren't those HBO hookers in NYC around that much for tooth-free oral?
Umm, I think you are seeing through their "point" way too well. The idea is to remove choice, not add any.
If the folks at the parks let the "guests" bring bikes then you would be right, but they don't.
oops! replace all 2 with 3
These things are supposed to replace cars in some sort of "brave new world" and they cost more for 20 min. than a pickup truck costs for all day?
Sorry, you lost me on the segway.