"We have to be able to get some kind of access to our files up or down."
"Well how could they slip that in the EULA if they're required to... to notify us of changes? Break off the upload! The EULA still gives them full access!"
"I don't see that in the EULA, are you sure?"
"CANCEL UPLOAD! ALL USERS CANCEL UPLOAD!"
"Take evasive action. Green group, stay close and re-check section 57."
"Admiral, we have additional insane EULA requirements in section 47."
Not necessarily. You can run your farming operation in isolated 'cells'. Power levelling a new account is easy and inexpensive, an organization could dump accounts that are over a few months old, or use them as spambots until blizzard terminates them.
Also, if I conduct my transfers as sequences of 998 gold, I'm under the radar. I can write scripts and macros to break up large transfers.
Ok. So total up the total gold amount in somebody's inbox when they open it, instead of checking on an individual message. If anything, this makes it easier to identify gold buying as there will be 20 messages each with 250g, all sent very quickly from different accounts instead of one, possibly legit, transfer.
If after farming 100k I buy a bunch of expensive items in the AH, and email those around instead of cash, and then the recipients sell them in AH to convert them back to gold, your 'gold tracking' code is completely bypassed, and I've effectively transferred large sums of gold under the radar...better than under the radar, you are capturing AH transactions between the farmers and 'innocent victims' instead of between farmers. There will be no traceable link between the farmers accounts by simply following the money. Now you have to follow all the items around too... good luck with that.
Horrible example. Who cares if farmers transfer money between themselves? That is not against the rules. The issue is selling gold. At some point the gold has to go to a buyer. Buyers are not going to accept an item to sell instead of gold itself. Auctioning stuff requires time and effort and luck, stuff the average buyer will not be willing to rely on when they just shelled out $100 USD.
Plus take a look at the AH some day, your code will flag absolutely everyone selling or buying an item worth more than 1k. Thats a hell of a lot of innocent people to sort through looking for farmers.
Nah. Don't flag mail coming from the system, just player 2 player.
1) You haven't identified the gold sellers yet, just everybody in the game with more than 1k. There are LOTS of those. And lots of them transfer money between accounts for legit reasons.
By identifying the buyers you have 90% of the information you need to identify the sellers, though that is secondary to getting rid of the 'illicit' gold.
2) If the gold-farm org is using cellular organization, and retires and spins up new cells on a regular basis you'll perpetually be behind them; even if you can identify them once they start delivering gold, they'll be done with the cell before you've blacklisted them.
Ok, use cells, use temporary accounts. All that does is make it easier to identify the buyers. Delete the gold and watch the market shrivel.
3) You will be taking customer service calls from everyone who finds 'gold' deleted from their account, all claiming to be innocent, that it was part of a larger deal -- where you gave X to Y and now Z was paying you back for it. (This happens all the time in WoW.) And in some cases they will be innocent. Don't expect that to sit well with the community.
Doubtful. Legit accounts don't get created and disappear after 2 months.
The simplified 'code' was just a simple example of one method to identify a transaction. Every example you gave to 'thwart' it is easily covered by adding more checks to other variables like the age of the accounts involved in the transfer, amount and frequency of transfers, who owns the accounts, etc.
You're never going to be 100% successful, but 80-90% is easily attainable.
if (mail.gold > 999) {
mail->sender->farmerWatchFlag(true);
mail->receiver->buyerWatchFlag(true); } if (trade.gold > 999) {
trade->sender->farmerWatchFlag(true);
trade->receiver->buyerWatchFlag(true); }
This isn't a cash transaction that can't be tracked. Watch the gold. The money has to be transfered, probably more than once. There will be a string of transfers that all go back to just a couple accounts.
But don't ban anybody.
Just delete the gold from the buyer's account.
Guess how many people are going to continue to pay real $$ for gold if the gold is simply deleted.
I'm sorry, how exactly do the wind plans and projections of two tiny European countries affect the ability of the US power grid to accept spikes in energy from wind?
Not at all.
Nuclear has waste disposal problems mainly because people invent those problems by blocking the technology. Recycling technology being developed in the EU is progressing and has shown that the spent rods can be re-used in a variety of ways, each of which significantly reduce their danger. Recent progress with the space elevator will provide a cost effective method of removing remaining waste from the environment.
I am in no way saying nuclear fission is the best energy source, it is simply the best of what we have available for our current and near future needs. This includes powering electric vehicles.
Actually no, I don't. I simply understand real life.
Hydroelectric: Well, I like rivers. I like rafting , I like fish, I like the environment. So I don't like ruining those things with dams.
Wind: Our power grid cannot handle the electricity spikes generated by wind, so wind will always (do you see our entire grid being replaced any time soon?) be the bastard. Some areas, like LA with the Santa Ana winds can benefit greatly, but only non Californians see L.A. as being equivalent to 'The West'.
Solar: The cost, space requirements, and limited availability of the sun (just a few hours per day for most locations) means solar as well cannot be relied upon for anything more than a small percentage of our *mid-day* usage... When do you think people will be charging their car? When they're driving? Or when they're asleep?
If you want real environment saving technology, you have one choice right now. Hydrogen + Nuclear.
Your problem is you just repeat whatever garbage you hear without actually doing any fact checking. You're a Michael Moore fan aren't you?:)
In general, all things being equal, with typical usage, you will ALWAYS create less pollution with a plug-in-hybrid than with a non-hybrid.
ALWAYS.
Unfortunately in the real world all things are not equal... people like to ignore the pollution created when generating electricity.
We (USA) live in a world where the majority (70%) of our electricity is produced by burning coal and fossil fuels. When used to power a plug-in vehicle, including a phev, it ends up producing more air pollution than a standard gas burning vehicle.
Since the pollution costs for the construction and maintenance of the vehicles is roughly the same, we're left with energy production as the pollution gauge. Anything that plugs into your wall will lose in the pollution arena until we radically change our electricity production and transportation methods.
The tiered pricing isn't covering taxis, it is covering the roads the taxi drives on. Why shouldn't the owners of a toll road choose how much to charge people driving on it?
If you don't like it, don't put your store, or your house, on that toll road. Or, get the government to buy the road and make it public.
People complain about the coming change in 'net neutrality' without ever considering what it is really doing.
Tiered pricing is no different than tiered pricing in any other arena. Prime office space on the top floor in downtown San Francisco, California is going to cost you a lot more than the shack behind Pete's Tacos. A Rodeo Drive storefront costs more than your mom's basement.
That is how it is. The Internet grew the way it did for a number of reasons, now though, it is just another way of doing business. If you want a better storefront, you pay for it. Does that give an unfair advantage to established businesses? Yes.
Welcome to the world of capitalism, where nothing is free except you.
Actually, I can stop all Korean and Chinese spam for only $500!
Its completely safe too! I don't get paid until you're satisfied it worked!
Just send $500 by Western Union to me here in Ukraine. In one month, once you are satisfied that the spam has stopped, tell me your confirmation number to release the money so I can pick it up!
And another. DBMSs make integration with web applications a lot easier. Odds are there are already tools and classes and languages (like php) to easily mess with the db.
Also, if you want your email in a db without using exchange, try dbmail.
I've set up a dbmail/postfix installation to use with my company's web application we're developing. Though I have no idea how well these work with 1000000 users, they're worth exploring.
I play sports games for the game, so when I find one I like I'm perfectly happy sticking with that edition until a truely superior simulation comes along.
Uh, no it doesn't. It says that a 'widget' CAN ask for ANY resources. The user has one chance to say yes or no. After that, if the user says ok, the widget is all-powerful.
I've found most useful three things: Class Diagram Use Case Scenarios Flow Chart
The class diagram I think is the single most useful doc for any OO project. It tells exactly what the package/application/whatever can do, and often gives some insight into what the designers were thinking.
Use case scenarious tell you how the designers imagined the program would be used. You can also ask users to write down how they envision their interaction with the program.
A flow chart or state diagram or something similar for the app if needed. The larger the app, the more useful this is.
I'd suggest looking for a g4 cube on ebay or somewhere. There are a few on ebay right now.
Absolute max power usage is 225 watts. A lot less most of the time. Its quiet, its small, and you can stick OSX on it. Comes with pretty much everything you need right there. And it feels a lot like FreeBSD.
And as soon as such a law went into effect and the music industry started implementing their kill devices, you'd start seeing a wonderful new wave of virii that would flag themselves as 'copyrighted material' while suppressing the warnings you're supposed to receive.
Wow. bg Slashdot accepting a Drudge Report article as news. If one of his 'inside sources' said the sky was falling, he'd report it. Drudge is nearly as bad as a tabloid.
The issue with fuel cells now is producing hydrogen. 1) Producing hydrogen uses more energy than you get out of the fuel cell. (Nothing in energy transfer is 100% though, so it doesnt truly matter) 2) Most electricity in the US is produced by coal and fossil fuel burning. Producing enough hydrogen for people's cars would cause more pollution than if everyone just drove petroleum burning cars.
Actually, I really doubt they'll use lines from the Evil Dead Series. Bruce Campbell sued because his 'likeness' was used in the game. Voice, lines, etc.
First, imo, guns shold _not_ be banned. However, they should be restricted.
Yes, people are screwed up. So, should we sell them an assault rifle? Or hey, why stop there, why not stick a recoiless rifle on the shelf for sale, Lord knows them deer can walk away from a lot. Or, how about mortars? Now you dont evan need to enter the forest... or school... to go hunting.
We're not lucky that massacres happen more often with guns than explosives. Guns are more readily available. Do you know how to make a 2000lb bomb capable of blowing up a good sized building? probobly not. Can you go buy that same bomb at the local K-mart? No.
Slashdot Mirror
Making a Star Wars reference is not trading your kingdom for a mod point.
I already did that to get The Police back together.
"Upload all files to google apps."
"May the force be with us."
"We have to be able to get some kind of access to our files up or down."
"Well how could they slip that in the EULA if they're required to ... to notify us of changes? Break off the upload! The EULA still gives them full access!"
"I don't see that in the EULA, are you sure?"
"CANCEL UPLOAD! ALL USERS CANCEL UPLOAD!"
"Take evasive action. Green group, stay close and re-check section 57."
"Admiral, we have additional insane EULA requirements in section 47."
"IT'S A TRAP!"
Not necessarily. You can run your farming operation in isolated 'cells'. Power levelling a new account is easy and inexpensive, an organization could dump accounts that are over a few months old, or use them as spambots until blizzard terminates them.
Also, if I conduct my transfers as sequences of 998 gold, I'm under the radar. I can write scripts and macros to break up large transfers.
Ok. So total up the total gold amount in somebody's inbox when they open it, instead of checking on an individual message. If anything, this makes it easier to identify gold buying as there will be 20 messages each with 250g, all sent very quickly from different accounts instead of one, possibly legit, transfer.
If after farming 100k I buy a bunch of expensive items in the AH, and email those around instead of cash, and then the recipients sell them in AH to convert them back to gold, your 'gold tracking' code is completely bypassed, and I've effectively transferred large sums of gold under the radar...better than under the radar, you are capturing AH transactions between the farmers and 'innocent victims' instead of between farmers. There will be no traceable link between the farmers accounts by simply following the money. Now you have to follow all the items around too... good luck with that.
Horrible example. Who cares if farmers transfer money between themselves? That is not against the rules. The issue is selling gold. At some point the gold has to go to a buyer. Buyers are not going to accept an item to sell instead of gold itself. Auctioning stuff requires time and effort and luck, stuff the average buyer will not be willing to rely on when they just shelled out $100 USD.
Plus take a look at the AH some day, your code will flag absolutely everyone selling or buying an item worth more than 1k. Thats a hell of a lot of innocent people to sort through looking for farmers.
Nah. Don't flag mail coming from the system, just player 2 player.
1) You haven't identified the gold sellers yet, just everybody in the game with more than 1k. There are LOTS of those. And lots of them transfer money between accounts for legit reasons.
By identifying the buyers you have 90% of the information you need to identify the sellers, though that is secondary to getting rid of the 'illicit' gold.
2) If the gold-farm org is using cellular organization, and retires and spins up new cells on a regular basis you'll perpetually be behind them; even if you can identify them once they start delivering gold, they'll be done with the cell before you've blacklisted them.
Ok, use cells, use temporary accounts. All that does is make it easier to identify the buyers. Delete the gold and watch the market shrivel.
3) You will be taking customer service calls from everyone who finds 'gold' deleted from their account, all claiming to be innocent, that it was part of a larger deal -- where you gave X to Y and now Z was paying you back for it. (This happens all the time in WoW.) And in some cases they will be innocent. Don't expect that to sit well with the community.
Doubtful. Legit accounts don't get created and disappear after 2 months.
The simplified 'code' was just a simple example of one method to identify a transaction. Every example you gave to 'thwart' it is easily covered by adding more checks to other variables like the age of the accounts involved in the transfer, amount and frequency of transfers, who owns the accounts, etc.
You're never going to be 100% successful, but 80-90% is easily attainable.
if (mail.gold > 999)
{
mail->sender->farmerWatchFlag(true);
mail->receiver->buyerWatchFlag(true);
}
if (trade.gold > 999)
{
trade->sender->farmerWatchFlag(true);
trade->receiver->buyerWatchFlag(true);
}
This isn't a cash transaction that can't be tracked. Watch the gold. The money has to be transfered, probably more than once. There will be a string of transfers that all go back to just a couple accounts.
But don't ban anybody.
Just delete the gold from the buyer's account.
Guess how many people are going to continue to pay real $$ for gold if the gold is simply deleted.
I'm sorry, how exactly do the wind plans and projections of two tiny European countries affect the ability of the US power grid to accept spikes in energy from wind?
Not at all.
Nuclear has waste disposal problems mainly because people invent those problems by blocking the technology. Recycling technology being developed in the EU is progressing and has shown that the spent rods can be re-used in a variety of ways, each of which significantly reduce their danger. Recent progress with the space elevator will provide a cost effective method of removing remaining waste from the environment.
I am in no way saying nuclear fission is the best energy source, it is simply the best of what we have available for our current and near future needs. This includes powering electric vehicles.
Actually no, I don't. I simply understand real life.
Hydroelectric: Well, I like rivers. I like rafting , I like fish, I like the environment. So I don't like ruining those things with dams.
Wind: Our power grid cannot handle the electricity spikes generated by wind, so wind will always (do you see our entire grid being replaced any time soon?) be the bastard. Some areas, like LA with the Santa Ana winds can benefit greatly, but only non Californians see L.A. as being equivalent to 'The West'.
Solar: The cost, space requirements, and limited availability of the sun (just a few hours per day for most locations) means solar as well cannot be relied upon for anything more than a small percentage of our *mid-day* usage... When do you think people will be charging their car? When they're driving? Or when they're asleep?
If you want real environment saving technology, you have one choice right now.
Hydrogen + Nuclear.
Your problem is you just repeat whatever garbage you hear without actually doing any fact checking. You're a Michael Moore fan aren't you? :)
In general, all things being equal, with typical usage, you will ALWAYS create less pollution with a plug-in-hybrid than with a non-hybrid.
ALWAYS.
Unfortunately in the real world all things are not equal... people like to ignore the pollution created when generating electricity.
We (USA) live in a world where the majority (70%) of our electricity is produced by burning coal and fossil fuels. When used to power a plug-in vehicle, including a phev, it ends up producing more air pollution than a standard gas burning vehicle.
Since the pollution costs for the construction and maintenance of the vehicles is roughly the same, we're left with energy production as the pollution gauge. Anything that plugs into your wall will lose in the pollution arena until we radically change our electricity production and transportation methods.
Lets do a quick look in my inbox for spam...
And I have... 0. I must be blind.
And in this thread: 0.
I must be new too...
Looks to me like nothing more than the written ramblings of a stuttering solipsist.
You didn't continue the analogy, you twisted it.
The tiered pricing isn't covering taxis, it is covering the roads the taxi drives on. Why shouldn't the owners of a toll road choose how much to charge people driving on it?
If you don't like it, don't put your store, or your house, on that toll road. Or, get the government to buy the road and make it public.
It is absolutely capitalism at its finest.
People complain about the coming change in 'net neutrality' without ever considering what it is really doing.
Tiered pricing is no different than tiered pricing in any other arena. Prime office space on the top floor in downtown San Francisco, California is going to cost you a lot more than the shack behind Pete's Tacos. A Rodeo Drive storefront costs more than your mom's basement.
That is how it is. The Internet grew the way it did for a number of reasons, now though, it is just another way of doing business. If you want a better storefront, you pay for it. Does that give an unfair advantage to established businesses? Yes.
Welcome to the world of capitalism, where nothing is free except you.
Actually, I can stop all Korean and Chinese spam for only $500!
Its completely safe too! I don't get paid until you're satisfied it worked!
Just send $500 by Western Union to me here in Ukraine. In one month, once you are satisfied that the spam has stopped, tell me your confirmation number to release the money so I can pick it up!
And another. DBMSs make integration with web applications a lot easier. Odds are there are already tools and classes and languages (like php) to easily mess with the db.
Also, if you want your email in a db without using exchange, try dbmail.
I've set up a dbmail/postfix installation to use with my company's web application we're developing. Though I have no idea how well these work with 1000000 users, they're worth exploring.
I play sports games for the game, so when I find one I like I'm perfectly happy sticking with that edition until a truely superior simulation comes along.
Here here! Tecmobowl 4 life!
Uh, no it doesn't. It says that a 'widget' CAN ask for ANY resources. The user has one chance to say yes or no. After that, if the user says ok, the widget is all-powerful.
I've found most useful three things:
Class Diagram
Use Case Scenarios
Flow Chart
The class diagram I think is the single most useful doc for any OO project. It tells exactly what the package/application/whatever can do, and often gives some insight into what the designers were thinking.
Use case scenarious tell you how the designers imagined the program would be used. You can also ask users to write down how they envision their interaction with the program.
A flow chart or state diagram or something similar for the app if needed. The larger the app, the more useful this is.
I'd suggest looking for a g4 cube on ebay or somewhere. There are a few on ebay right now.
Absolute max power usage is 225 watts. A lot less most of the time. Its quiet, its small, and you can stick OSX on it. Comes with pretty much everything you need right there. And it feels a lot like FreeBSD.
And as soon as such a law went into effect and the music industry started implementing their kill devices, you'd start seeing a wonderful new wave of virii that would flag themselves as 'copyrighted material' while suppressing the warnings you're supposed to receive.
Wow. bg Slashdot accepting a Drudge Report article as news. If one of his 'inside sources' said the sky was falling, he'd report it. Drudge is nearly as bad as a tabloid.
:/
Check the sources when posting news
Wow, talk about nice ad placement. I click on the link to the article, and up pops a "New Yahoo Search" ad!
The issue with fuel cells now is producing hydrogen.
1) Producing hydrogen uses more energy than you get out of the fuel cell. (Nothing in energy transfer is 100% though, so it doesnt truly matter)
2) Most electricity in the US is produced by coal and fossil fuel burning. Producing enough hydrogen for people's cars would cause more pollution than if everyone just drove petroleum burning cars.
Actually, I really doubt they'll use lines from the Evil Dead Series. Bruce Campbell sued because his 'likeness' was used in the game. Voice, lines, etc.
I think they'll stay away from him in the future.
First, imo, guns shold _not_ be banned. However, they should be restricted.
Yes, people are screwed up. So, should we sell them an assault rifle? Or hey, why stop there, why not stick a recoiless rifle on the shelf for sale, Lord knows them deer can walk away from a lot. Or, how about mortars? Now you dont evan need to enter the forest... or school... to go hunting.
We're not lucky that massacres happen more often with guns than explosives. Guns are more readily available.
Do you know how to make a 2000lb bomb capable of blowing up a good sized building? probobly not.
Can you go buy that same bomb at the local K-mart? No.
Do you know how to make a gun? Probobly not.
Can you buy a gun at a local k-mart? Yes.
Gun restrictions can help, a lot.