I'm a senior engineer. I've sat on many, many, many interviewing and hiring decision boards in my time. When we had women who applied, we often hired then because they were competent. However, in doing every 100 interviews in my career, typically there were two or three female candidates.
you'd rather that the poor were poorer, merely so the rich weren't so well off.
You just said it. But the prices of goods bear almost no relation to wages any longer...
There is some truth to that - but since the same growers are supplying Kroeger and Safeway (the other big chains in my area) and the quality is apparently the same, I don't see the point with vegetables and fruit. I was looking for articulable evidence in this instance, not anecdote.
I don't think that WF was ever middle class, nor did it want to be. It was, at a minimum, UPPER middle class, which is quite different from middle-middle class or lower middle class. I'd certainly say that upper middle class people want to pretend they're upper class (aka rich).
I cannot speak to whether the middle class is going away - it does feel like it , but I also wonder if folks who have some disposable income are doing more things like "blue apron" and all those services that send you food which you assemble. That may have more to do with the decline of WF than anything else.
For me, I'd rather shop in a store where fewer of the employees are consuming magic mushrooms than it appears to be in WF.
But what do I know? I'm a pleb that shops at Kroeger and (gasp!) Walmart, and, when I want to drive 100 miles, Trader Joes.
Then what is? Snob appeal?
This might sound like a snarky question, but it's quite serious.
I don't have a WF withing 100 miles of my home, but I have shopped there in the past. I have actually found in recent years that (say) the fruit and veg in Walmart is of high quality and while not as good as the so-called organic stuff at WF (And I say 'so called' merely because who knows?), it's also.5*price at WF).
Compare this with last time I was in whole foods, and attempted to buy organic peas - to find they were from China. At which point I left and never returned.
I really think that you can find high quality AND crap stuff everywhere, WM and WF included.
As for meat, I wouldn't buy meat at either place.
I hardly think people are disposable commodities, I wouldn't be a firefighter if I thought that.
One of the reason why I fled the blue state where I lived for a decade was the attitude THERE that people were disposable commodities.
I will never willingly live in a "blue" community again, as people there mostly wouldn't help someone bleeding on the street.
I'd rather live in America, thanks, where people DO care about each other.
That's because they don't.
I have to admit, I'm not a fan of herbicides - but they do not drench plants in herbicide just before harvest because, as you mention they're just about to harvest and it doesn't matter if there are weeds, now.
I've never been a big buyer of whole foods goods - here's why: Back when I actually DID buy things I started reading labels. I left the store, never to return, when looking at organic vegetables in the freezer case that were grown in China - if there's one place on earth where I do not want food coming from, it is there.
This was NOT a national brand, it was their store brand.
And their prices on CONVENTIONAL produce and fruit are significantly higher than Kroger/Safeway/Walmart.
What is the appeal of the place?
Every time I've tried to interact with an employee to ask a question - it went like this one, that I had on an early December day a few years ago. I asked "Do you have dried candied orange and lemon peels?"
He responded "Oh, you mean for, like fruitcake?"
"Yes, " said I.
"Oh, we have them at, like, Christmas, " said he.
"It is December and Christmas is in 3.5 weeks"
to which I got a blank, deer in the headlights, stare.
Thanks, but no. The people of walmart may dress funny but at least they are more entertaining.
Since I don't watch or read Fox or Infowars, I'd not have seen it there anyway. NY Times, Washtington Post, Washington Times, Denver Post - phhht. Not to mention UK"s telegraph, times, The Jerusalem Post, the Toronto Globe and Mail - no I couldn't possibly have missed it.
But wait, a policeman stopped a car doing 120 mph in a 70mph, it must be sexism that caused this! News at 11.
Meanwhile you creatures have been advocating assasinating the President. But that's perfectly okay because after all, you people just FEEL so strongly. Crawl back under a rock, please, and stay there.
I have tremendous empathy, and I've learned over the years the people who are callous, evil, and horrible are leftists.
You know, like the ones who think the Liverpool Care Pathway are great for those who are no longer viable economic units.
You people disgust me.
That was a screed that made no sense whatsoever. As a person who is not a redneck, but knows some, I can tell you with a knowledge sure and complete, that this is totally spurious.
Now, about the hipster bozos being useful idiots, that's true.
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Actually the one advantage of a globalist like Cook moving jobs - is that his lies will become quite obvious, yes?
I'm a senior engineer. I've sat on many, many, many interviewing and hiring decision boards in my time. When we had women who applied, we often hired then because they were competent. However, in doing every 100 interviews in my career, typically there were two or three female candidates.
you'd rather that the poor were poorer, merely so the rich weren't so well off. You just said it. But the prices of goods bear almost no relation to wages any longer...
If you believe in an egalitarian world where equality of opportunity matters, yes it is.
Feel free to live in your fantasyland buddy. And - remember, you cannot keep brown people down forever!
There is some truth to that - but since the same growers are supplying Kroeger and Safeway (the other big chains in my area) and the quality is apparently the same, I don't see the point with vegetables and fruit. I was looking for articulable evidence in this instance, not anecdote.
I don't think that WF was ever middle class, nor did it want to be. It was, at a minimum, UPPER middle class, which is quite different from middle-middle class or lower middle class. I'd certainly say that upper middle class people want to pretend they're upper class (aka rich). I cannot speak to whether the middle class is going away - it does feel like it , but I also wonder if folks who have some disposable income are doing more things like "blue apron" and all those services that send you food which you assemble. That may have more to do with the decline of WF than anything else. For me, I'd rather shop in a store where fewer of the employees are consuming magic mushrooms than it appears to be in WF. But what do I know? I'm a pleb that shops at Kroeger and (gasp!) Walmart, and, when I want to drive 100 miles, Trader Joes.
Then what is? Snob appeal? This might sound like a snarky question, but it's quite serious. I don't have a WF withing 100 miles of my home, but I have shopped there in the past. I have actually found in recent years that (say) the fruit and veg in Walmart is of high quality and while not as good as the so-called organic stuff at WF (And I say 'so called' merely because who knows?), it's also .5*price at WF).
Compare this with last time I was in whole foods, and attempted to buy organic peas - to find they were from China. At which point I left and never returned.
I really think that you can find high quality AND crap stuff everywhere, WM and WF included.
As for meat, I wouldn't buy meat at either place.
I hardly think people are disposable commodities, I wouldn't be a firefighter if I thought that. One of the reason why I fled the blue state where I lived for a decade was the attitude THERE that people were disposable commodities. I will never willingly live in a "blue" community again, as people there mostly wouldn't help someone bleeding on the street. I'd rather live in America, thanks, where people DO care about each other.
I just paid...drumroll...$1.08 for a dozen of extra large. Of course, I live in ag country, so that might have something to do with it.
That's because they don't. I have to admit, I'm not a fan of herbicides - but they do not drench plants in herbicide just before harvest because, as you mention they're just about to harvest and it doesn't matter if there are weeds, now.
I've never been a big buyer of whole foods goods - here's why: Back when I actually DID buy things I started reading labels. I left the store, never to return, when looking at organic vegetables in the freezer case that were grown in China - if there's one place on earth where I do not want food coming from, it is there. This was NOT a national brand, it was their store brand. And their prices on CONVENTIONAL produce and fruit are significantly higher than Kroger/Safeway/Walmart. What is the appeal of the place? Every time I've tried to interact with an employee to ask a question - it went like this one, that I had on an early December day a few years ago. I asked "Do you have dried candied orange and lemon peels?" He responded "Oh, you mean for, like fruitcake?" "Yes, " said I. "Oh, we have them at, like, Christmas, " said he. "It is December and Christmas is in 3.5 weeks" to which I got a blank, deer in the headlights, stare. Thanks, but no. The people of walmart may dress funny but at least they are more entertaining.
I'm sure wikileaks has Hillary's email. Perhaps the treaty is in there? And she didn't notice it 'cause she was simply senile?
It just points out what we right wingers have been saying for ages: institutional left wingers are nothing but elitists.
And living in a kumbaya world for you, where people are disposable commodities, is even sadder.
Since I don't watch or read Fox or Infowars, I'd not have seen it there anyway. NY Times, Washtington Post, Washington Times, Denver Post - phhht. Not to mention UK"s telegraph, times, The Jerusalem Post, the Toronto Globe and Mail - no I couldn't possibly have missed it. But wait, a policeman stopped a car doing 120 mph in a 70mph, it must be sexism that caused this! News at 11. Meanwhile you creatures have been advocating assasinating the President. But that's perfectly okay because after all, you people just FEEL so strongly. Crawl back under a rock, please, and stay there.
;-) Maybe just a little
Since I've never seen a so-called liberal who isn't a dick, you should know if this works or not.
I have tremendous empathy, and I've learned over the years the people who are callous, evil, and horrible are leftists. You know, like the ones who think the Liverpool Care Pathway are great for those who are no longer viable economic units. You people disgust me.
Are able to see reality? I see no evidence of this. Why dont' you move to Qatar?
Then why isn't it reported on national news? Because it didnt' happen?
All of it?
That was a screed that made no sense whatsoever. As a person who is not a redneck, but knows some, I can tell you with a knowledge sure and complete, that this is totally spurious. Now, about the hipster bozos being useful idiots, that's true.
Sure, like The Guardian is unbiased. Would you like to buy some oceanfront property in Nevada I happen to own?
And I'd like to be as blind as you are, but hey, I can't do that without damaging my brain.