I agree with you on that one. But I do wonder if they heterodyne; indoor air polluted with toxic scents and other things coupled with no exercise and no exposure to dirt etc.
You're presuming I love one side. Pragmatically I support one side because the other one has concentration camps and gas chambers CLOSER TO THE FRONT OF ITS MIND than the other. It's not that they both don't have this, they do.
Your simplistic ideas don't work, either.
Yes. I agree.
You know what the saddest thing is though? There's all this discussion that 'oh kids have more allergies now because our homes are cleaner.'
Absolutely not.
I was born in the middle sixties and people had less stuff. Their houses had way less dirt than today. I'm guessing that one of the reasons why kids have more allergies is long chain molecules that outgas off of products produced in countries with lax manufacturing and environmental standards. There is perfume in EVERYTHING and these scents often have questionable chemicals in them.
I have worked in a number of tech companies where engineering is considered a hindrance to "company progress."
It's just amazing.
I can't believe that so many tech companies stay in business for so long.
Obviously, Seagate is not long for this world.
Let's see, Obama is pro-TPP, and so is Clinton, so you can say that they're trying to destroy that 200 remaining jobs in the US. The Democrats have EXPANDED the Patriot act so they hate the fact that US constitution limits what the government can do. The DEMOCRATS have eroded property rights with environental legislation to such a degree that a puddle on land that is a puddle 2 weeks a year can make it "wetlands."
Don't tell me about the horrors of the Republicans until you examine the horrors of the Democrats. They are worse than the Republicans because they're "Doing it for the children!" Spare me.
I wasn't meaning to do this. I was simply saying that responding with deadly force is NOT what good police training his. There is a continuum of force, and it's very hard, especially when adrenaline is flowing, to do what you're supposed to do.
What I found tiresome as a cop was the guy who said "Oh yeha, I was in 4 fights last month and 3 this month and it's only the 12th of the month!" and in too many instances, he was merely being an *sshole to people who he had a contact with.
I'm not Monday Morning Quarterbacking either - I'm merely stating what *I* learned. I know how difficult it is to do. I'm glad I never shot anyone, nor got shot myself. Some of that is circumstance, I'm sure - and it is impossible to quantify how much of it may have been because of how I did my job.
This. The 'drops like a rock' moves AMerican violent crime down pretty much to western European levels.
I don't know about now, but throughout the 1990s you were far more likely to be a victim of violent crime in England and Wales than in the US -a ccording to the Clinton Justice Department.
No, not quite.
There is a force continuum. A uniformed officer represents the lowest level on this continuum, as he or she represents the law. Next is wrist locks, pressure points, spraying with oleoresin capsicasum (I'm sure that is spelled wrong because I usually abbreviate OC and it is often called 'Mace'), a baton, THEN the firearm.
You usually go up the force continuum one at time BUT there may be cases where you h ave to jump immediately to using a firearm such as when someone is pointing one at you.
Many citizens (NOT civilians because despite what cops think THEY ARE CIVILIANS) don't necessarily understand that for their safety they should stay in the car. Additionally, in other countries this might not be the case; when I was in the academy I was told of a situation that could have gone bad but didn't where two Russian men, both body builders, exited their vehicle and went up to the police cruiser, where the officer was, shall we say, passing a brick, because IN RUSSIA THIS IS WHAT YOU DO. They didn't speak good English, and the Universal Translator wasn't working that day.
Especially since:
1. The drive rmust have a smart phone.
2. There must be cell coverage.
3. The police department must have access to this one single app.
It would be easier to have a device that could detect the telephones in a car and ring them.
But - gasp! - not everyone has a mobile phone.
I used to be a cop.
I went through two police academies, one for local and one for state.
The local one was cool, we got great training on how to de-escalate potential issues as well as be cautious and careful yet aggressive enough to get the job done.
The state academy was more "Marine Corps" oriented and, frankly, I quit the academy because i felt like they weren't doing the proper training AND it was going to get people killed.
So I don't think it's US wide, but perhaps jurisdiction related.
which may be because people who have health problems and / or mental problems try vegetarianism as a solution to them. I don't know, I'm a happy omnivore. I even eat GLUTEN!! (key scary music in the background)
I suspect the average weight of an OTR truck driver is significantly higher than an airline pilot, who tend to be lean. I also know a lot of truck drivers that have other lifestyle factors like smoking.
Factoring out those things though - e.g. similar BMI and lifestyle parameters like smoking - it would be an interesting analysis.
No, I have insufficient data as well, so of course, i"m not passing judgement. But IF the shooter was 'contained' aka couldn't shoot at anyone else than killing him with a robot was execution and NOT the job of the cops whose job is to deliver him to the court system. If he COULD shoot at others then this isn't any different than a police sniper taking him out. (Though honestly, having been a cop, if I were a hostage I'd rather have a.mil sniper shooting at the bad guy than a police sniper).
Replying to my own post:
Having said this, blowing up somebody with a bomb is wrong, wrong, wrong, no matter what they did.
If murder is illegal for an individual, why is it legal for the state to do it ? This instance, the death penalty, etc.
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This. I'm tired of wackos calling themselves conservatives when they should be calling themselves progressives, because that is what they act like.
Unless, of course, the USSR took over which was looking very likely in 1980.
I agree with you on that one. But I do wonder if they heterodyne; indoor air polluted with toxic scents and other things coupled with no exercise and no exposure to dirt etc.
You don't think they don't already want to do this ? The current administration has been whining about IC vehicles for 8 years.
You're presuming I love one side. Pragmatically I support one side because the other one has concentration camps and gas chambers CLOSER TO THE FRONT OF ITS MIND than the other. It's not that they both don't have this, they do. Your simplistic ideas don't work, either.
I have no idea - my comment was on places other than Seagate where I've worked. But wouldn't Seagate mostly be engineering types?
Yes. I agree. You know what the saddest thing is though? There's all this discussion that 'oh kids have more allergies now because our homes are cleaner.' Absolutely not. I was born in the middle sixties and people had less stuff. Their houses had way less dirt than today. I'm guessing that one of the reasons why kids have more allergies is long chain molecules that outgas off of products produced in countries with lax manufacturing and environmental standards. There is perfume in EVERYTHING and these scents often have questionable chemicals in them.
As your irrational hatred of Republicans cannot. At least I know this - and perhaps you do, too.
Oh, they'll all be in the USA. And these people will keep voting D-D-D because after all, T-P-P is wonderful!
I have worked in a number of tech companies where engineering is considered a hindrance to "company progress." It's just amazing. I can't believe that so many tech companies stay in business for so long. Obviously, Seagate is not long for this world.
Let's see, Obama is pro-TPP, and so is Clinton, so you can say that they're trying to destroy that 200 remaining jobs in the US. The Democrats have EXPANDED the Patriot act so they hate the fact that US constitution limits what the government can do. The DEMOCRATS have eroded property rights with environental legislation to such a degree that a puddle on land that is a puddle 2 weeks a year can make it "wetlands." Don't tell me about the horrors of the Republicans until you examine the horrors of the Democrats. They are worse than the Republicans because they're "Doing it for the children!" Spare me.
I wasn't meaning to do this. I was simply saying that responding with deadly force is NOT what good police training his. There is a continuum of force, and it's very hard, especially when adrenaline is flowing, to do what you're supposed to do. What I found tiresome as a cop was the guy who said "Oh yeha, I was in 4 fights last month and 3 this month and it's only the 12th of the month!" and in too many instances, he was merely being an *sshole to people who he had a contact with. I'm not Monday Morning Quarterbacking either - I'm merely stating what *I* learned. I know how difficult it is to do. I'm glad I never shot anyone, nor got shot myself. Some of that is circumstance, I'm sure - and it is impossible to quantify how much of it may have been because of how I did my job.
THANK YOU. You are one of the few people who have noted this, other than me, and I've given up repeating myself.
This. The 'drops like a rock' moves AMerican violent crime down pretty much to western European levels. I don't know about now, but throughout the 1990s you were far more likely to be a victim of violent crime in England and Wales than in the US -a ccording to the Clinton Justice Department.
No, not quite. There is a force continuum. A uniformed officer represents the lowest level on this continuum, as he or she represents the law. Next is wrist locks, pressure points, spraying with oleoresin capsicasum (I'm sure that is spelled wrong because I usually abbreviate OC and it is often called 'Mace'), a baton, THEN the firearm. You usually go up the force continuum one at time BUT there may be cases where you h ave to jump immediately to using a firearm such as when someone is pointing one at you.
Indeed. The Colonists didn't stop drinking tea after tax was added to it - they drank SMUGGLED TEA.
Many citizens (NOT civilians because despite what cops think THEY ARE CIVILIANS) don't necessarily understand that for their safety they should stay in the car. Additionally, in other countries this might not be the case; when I was in the academy I was told of a situation that could have gone bad but didn't where two Russian men, both body builders, exited their vehicle and went up to the police cruiser, where the officer was, shall we say, passing a brick, because IN RUSSIA THIS IS WHAT YOU DO. They didn't speak good English, and the Universal Translator wasn't working that day.
Especially since: 1. The drive rmust have a smart phone. 2. There must be cell coverage. 3. The police department must have access to this one single app. It would be easier to have a device that could detect the telephones in a car and ring them. But - gasp! - not everyone has a mobile phone.
I used to be a cop. I went through two police academies, one for local and one for state. The local one was cool, we got great training on how to de-escalate potential issues as well as be cautious and careful yet aggressive enough to get the job done. The state academy was more "Marine Corps" oriented and, frankly, I quit the academy because i felt like they weren't doing the proper training AND it was going to get people killed. So I don't think it's US wide, but perhaps jurisdiction related.
which may be because people who have health problems and / or mental problems try vegetarianism as a solution to them. I don't know, I'm a happy omnivore. I even eat GLUTEN!! (key scary music in the background)
When first world countries are becoming prisons is it any wonder why people commit suicide?
I suspect the average weight of an OTR truck driver is significantly higher than an airline pilot, who tend to be lean. I also know a lot of truck drivers that have other lifestyle factors like smoking. Factoring out those things though - e.g. similar BMI and lifestyle parameters like smoking - it would be an interesting analysis.
I don't like authoritarianism in any form. But Demoncrats want far LESS Freedom for individuals than Republicans do.
No, I have insufficient data as well, so of course, i"m not passing judgement. But IF the shooter was 'contained' aka couldn't shoot at anyone else than killing him with a robot was execution and NOT the job of the cops whose job is to deliver him to the court system. If he COULD shoot at others then this isn't any different than a police sniper taking him out. (Though honestly, having been a cop, if I were a hostage I'd rather have a .mil sniper shooting at the bad guy than a police sniper).
Replying to my own post: Having said this, blowing up somebody with a bomb is wrong, wrong, wrong, no matter what they did. If murder is illegal for an individual, why is it legal for the state to do it ? This instance, the death penalty, etc.