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Hostess Saves Twinkies By Automating, Fires 94% Of Their Workforce (washingtonpost.com)
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Where Twinkie once employed 22,000 workers in more than 40 bakeries, their workforce is now down to just 1,170, reports the Washington Post, relying mostly on robotic arms and other forms of automation. "This 500-person plant produces more than 1 million Twinkies a day, 400 million a year. That's 80% of Hostess' total output -- output that under the old regime required 14 plants and 9,000 employees."
"We like to think of ourselves as a billion-dollar startup," Hostess chief executive Bill Toler said Tuesday, announcing that Hostess Brands, which had twice filed for bankruptcy, now plans to become a publicly-listed company valued at $2.3 billion.
"We like to think of ourselves as a billion-dollar startup," Hostess chief executive Bill Toler said Tuesday, announcing that Hostess Brands, which had twice filed for bankruptcy, now plans to become a publicly-listed company valued at $2.3 billion.
bloody 'ell mate they taste like cardboard now.
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Just someone's bottom line.
maybe they can be repackaged as a building block toy.
meanwhile the human population keeps increasing.
You can still *eat* Twinkies better than us. KILL ALL HUMANS. Bender 2016.
They are all walking my neighborhood playing Pokenmon Go. Every freaking one of them.
But really, 22,000 humans making Twinkies and Ding Dongs is a major waste of humanity. I could justify having like 13,500 making Snowballs, cuzz those rocked.
I get really strange results in 2016 when I Google twinkie, snowball, ding dong, and cupcake. Mom!!!!!
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Its too bad the recipe was lost in the shuffle, the stuff has tasted nasty since the last hand over.
Automaton is great, but if you produce crap, does it really matter?
Who's going to buy twinkies when everyone is unemployed?
It's a good thing cancer is cured now so we can devote all our time to shitty food.
that's what led to bankruptcy and buyout.
They didn't fire everyone because of automation. They fired everyone because the business was grossly inefficient and bankrupt, and it happened over several years. They automated because it was the only way to compete in their market and survive as a company.
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Before Hostess filed for bankruptcy, WSJ reported the delivery of Twinkies alone was controlled by two unions. Their work rules stated: "Drivers can't help with unloading, and products like Wonder Bread and Twinkies are not allowed to ride on the same truck." As a result, a one-man job has to be split into two or more. Now the new Hostess apparently doesn't have this trouble.
The moral is, if you realize you are a dinosaur, evolve now! Otherwise, extinction is guaranteed. Labor unions are so 19 century.
Thanks for the info, i will now boycott all hostess products. Twinkies suck anyways lol haven't eaten one in 20 years.
Go ahead and eat one of those still left in your pantry, 1996 was a good year for twinkies.
You do realise that the computer you're using is mostly made via automated processes, don't you? Are you going to boycott that as well?
If you're going to boycott everything that's made by a machine you're going to find yourself living in a cave and reverting to a hunter scavenger state.
Automation poses a lot of challenges for our society, but employing people just to give them something to do is not the answer. Personally I think we should reduce the standard working week by one hour per year until we reach a 20 hour standard week. That would allow society to adapt to the changes progressively over the period of a couple of decades while ensuring there are enough jobs for those who have been left unemployed due to automation.
Yep, it's better to have 22,000 laid off because they went out of business than it is to have 1,170 employed directly at Hostess, and others indirectly employed at the robot manufacturers, ingredient suppliers, shipping companies, distributors, packaging suppliers, insurance companies, and all the other entities that support a running business.
You're in luck! Many people are being forced to work part time jobs at less than 40 hours a week because of insurance costs. Hooray! Your wonderful future is here!
What wasn't posted was that the robotic arms consume 1.1 million twinkies a day, and become dangerously aggressive if not fed. Half of the decrease in the human workforce has been anonymously attributed to unfortunate interactions with hungry arms.
and cost savings..
yet the retail price is HIGHER NOW than it was when they had an entire city's worth of employees.
I never liked regular Twinkies they were just not good to me, but Chocodiles as they were marketed or chocolate Twinkies as they are now labeled rock. Come to think of it I am going to have one now. MMMmmmm
errr....umm...*whooosh* *whoosh* Is this thing on ?
While the Automation kick is an interesting angle, lets not forget what actually killed Hostess -- vulture capitalists. These are Mitt Romney style assholes who swooped in, loaded the company up with debt, then pawned it off after leeching all the money out. Somehow though, it's not embezzlement when an investment company does it.
But it gets worse. The unions that took the blame? They were having their workers give upwards of a THIRD of their paychecks just to try and save the company they helped build. And that just caused the vultures to trade the company around more and more.
So yeah, the automation is interesting, but lets not forget what brought us to this point. Vultures bought the company, embezzeled a shitload by loading on bad debt and pawning the company of as well as flat out stealing from the pension fund, and passing the buck to the next leech until they couldn't pass it any further. And now instead of having good quality Wonder Bread and tasty, if not exactly healthy, sweets like the Twinkie, we get mass produced automated crap.
The local Hostess bakery re-branded as a Franz, and the quality is really good. They also have a direct-from-the-baker storefront that you can go in and get bread at a huge discount. Oh, and they're union and pay their workers a good wage -- around $17 an hour starting.
As I said the last time this came up, no American should EVER support Union Busting. Hostess is dead to me, and besides You can clone a twinkie pretty easily, which lets you do stuff like a fresh baked chocolate twinkie with cherry filling.
I'm sure they will fold up overnight due to your boycott.
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the same thing cardboard is made of.
There'll be a new sub-niche: Vintage Twinkies. Magazines will recommend years to get and which soda to eat them with. New fashionable eateries will pop up with a Twinkie list instead of wine: "Do you have the '96?" "Sorry, sir, we've run out, however I recommend the '01" "How about the '92?" "I'll need a credit card before I can serve you that"
"Wait. Something's happening. It's opening up! My God, it's full of apricots!"
It scares me that people with your level of understanding of economics vote for candidates that regulate the economy.
Nobody forces anyone to eat twinkles. I personally love them and eat at least two or three of them each year.
You have a mold oriented cake which absolutely can be produced with robots with insane efficiency. With enough design; it should be possible to automate the entire process of Twinkie production including machine cleaning and to some extent maintainance/repair. It would be the perfect factory to build in modules that can have purely external access for humans.
As for the workers, honestly, who the hell would want a job which a robot could do better and cheaper? Imagine the piss poor value of a person who wants a job that can be done better with a relatively primative machine. Same goes for most law positions and soon medical positions etc... I personally am trying to eliminate many IT positions. In addition, I volunteer on biotech projects to reduce dependence on medical general practitioners. We believe using the nudy body scanners used by the TSA pervs we can do a far more thorough job of regular checkups and medical diagnostics than a human.
It's time to automate as many jobs as possible. It will initially be an absolute disaster. People who are barely employable before being replaced by a robot will be utterly useless after. To make it work, we'll need a new economical system and a single world market. The U.K. Is worried about foreigners stealing jobs, but for every job stolen by an immigrant, 50 jobs will be eliminated by robots before long. The U.K. will collapse without EU membership as the UK is extremely dependent on automatable jobs for survival.
Funny to think the crap in the news is about Clinton, Trump and Bernie and none of the three will have any idea how to deal with these types of job losses except maybe building bigger militaries, prison systems or police forces.
When everything is automated, who will be able to afford Twinkies, or Big Macs, or any of this "cheap" food that low income wage earners currently purchase?
"How they’d do it? Cherry–picking top assets, modernizing manufacturing and distribution, doubling the shelf life of products...."
How did they manage to double the shelf life? Double the preservatives? Double to toxins?
>You do realise that the computer you're using is mostly made via automated processes, don't you? Are you going to boycott that as well?
I only get my computers custom crafted by a hipster in Portland.
And the people who would rather sit on the couch? Would their daily Jerry Springer viewing be rationed under your plan? Use automation to automatically turn the TV off at 10am, then 9am, then?
You heartless, anti-worker prick!
and the remaining 6-percent are the QA taste testers?
who the hell is eating all of these twinkies?
That's the most important thing. Twinkies can now be made in California, NY or even VT.
Now if someone could only figure out how the other 94% will make enough money to be able to afford twinkies and coke we could all be happy.
I told my 7 year old nephew that he couldn't have anything sharper than a twinkie after he dropped something. He said "What's a twinkie?" which is way funnier I think.
Automation is the next economic 'revolution', similar to the Industrial Revolution. It will change how people work, where people can work and most importantly the fact that tens of millions of workers will just not be needed in the next 20 years and that will only grow exponentially at first.
Half of you will hold on to the old wage model.. because your idiots and the other half will want a 'living wage' aka wealth redistribution. Automation is going to come faster than a generation of humans can adapt, so if we don't legislate economic reforms to deal with it, we will most certainly wind up with major civil unrest. They told us this would happen back in the 80s, and to a small degree it did on the industrial level, but robots will hit the retail/commercial sector soon as all the technology and efforts come together to make useful and re-usable platforms to do all kinds of labor.
They are already spending/planning to invest 10s of billions just in self driving cars.. and that's just one of tens of thousands of applications people with want right off the bat. The robotic automation market will dwarf computers, the internet, IoT because data and automation is all fun, but physically doing tasks is AWESOME. It changes the world to a much larger degree than just the digital revolution we've seen so far.
In a way all computers did was create digital gears and relays. Engineering them together into automated machines is going to take a lot of work, but we have positioned ourselves now to the point it appear to be fully happening. The ability to complete the many rather simple tasks that we all have to do such as cutting the lawn, vacuuming, laundry, dishes, cooking. These could all be automated within 10 years with full commercial availability to all in perhaps 20, that's without major focus. It could be done in a fraction of the time with an obsessed businessman like Elon on the task.
I'm glad he is working on things that will more directly benefit people. If he can pull off robot home helpers people will really better start to understand what I'm saying. In a few years people couple start to argue why do we even need drivers and home cleaners and of course we will still need them for awhile, but the point has validity. There is no reason we cannot automate mining and all kinds of large scale machine operation. Farming can be even more automated. With just today's technology we have a lot of extremely underdeveloped markets for automation to nearly revolutionize. Telsa is just proving that right before everyones else but the same thing applies to mowing, mining eventually package delivery, garbage pickup. They are developing fast food robots as well.
That;s a lot of millions of jobs right there. It begs the question as to what a lot of people actually do that has any real value. For instance, a waiter or a cashier. Those are pathetically low skilled jobs, but that makes up millions of people careers. Many of those are going to be replaced as a trend takes over to see how far automation can go.. some will resist, but money will dictate things and automation wont take long to prove mature and offer huge savings.
Give up on the idea of securing jobs because in 20 years you probably will have a biped robot that can use simple human tools and in 40 you'll have one that can hammer, saw and who knows. They won't replace everyone, just maybe 100 million of you or so.
Just in case? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
You do realise that the computer you're using is mostly made via automated processes, don't you?
I thought it was hand-crafted by the loving hands of small asian children like my phone.
Thanks. I'll make sure and never EVER purchase one of their products.
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22000 was before the automation so it does not mean that before the automation 94% did nothing.
just like abortion it's society's responsibility to make sure there are as few people as possible. If I can't afford a big house I can't have a big house. If you can afford to take care of yourself and your children then society has an obligation to help solve that problem.
Not only do they have a worse product, they decided to put nearly all the workforce on welfare (which means that Apollo's just paying from a separate bucket).
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The company had other choices than sabotage.
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Every new invention replaced some form of labor.
The tractor alone replaced huge number of workers over the years. Trucks and planes have shipped products in mere hours. The worker has to keep up. It's unfortunate that the individual gets bogged down in wanting to be less dynamic but our generation must be willing to keep up. You old guys had it made but I've seen several job replacements due to reductions stemming from efficiencies described in this article or cheaper labor elsewhere.
Nature is all about competition and survival. What moron would think otherwise. Anything else is unnatural in the bigger scheme.
That whenever Democrats take the helm of state, robots everywhere rejoice in their coming job security. Hostess didn't die, it was murdered by a union refusing to concede a thing and with the company bleeding money and dangling over a barrel exactly what many predicted would happen, did. And it will go on happening until the government realizes that gifting unions with all this power is bad for them, bad for business, but most of all, bad for the people without work. The minimum wage is just price-fixing by another name, and it has had exactly the same effects.
Unions - 0
fewer a people are certainly the solution but how can we convince people that the world doesn't need or want their children?
U6 combined with the labor participation rate shows a very different, but more real picture.
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one time payment of 50k to have tubes tied. it's a bargain compared to a lifetime of welfare payments down the generations. then we can all have cheap twinkies. ;)
So it's society's responsibility when it's a matter of deference to business friendliness, but it's the fault of individual when they can't second-guess the desires of employers?
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People are rational in not doing negative/uncertain return activities. Offer something more than blind faith and most will learn.
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Staggered hiring such that the entirety are brought back in a reasonable time - while reducing the effects of a bump?
They managed to get along with those 22,000 for quite a long time. Nothing says they couldn't survive by hiring them.
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With his pledge to force companies to return manufacturing back into the states, would only drive up costs from the labor costs that the share holders would want reduced. This would ultimately lead to the Automation of work, and the reduction of jobs. Because as we all know, Apple wouldn't be selling too many I-Phones if the price when up by a few hundred.
I think a good question is where do the increased profits go? If it goes to a lower cost product maybe it will create new jobs by freeing up more consumer money. If it goes to executives, it wont.
Another piece of advice, want this sugary stuff without supporting these big corps? Go to a locally run bakery and buy their pastries, if you still have them. They probably sell healthy products too perhaps.
... what's the point about Twinkies?
Who eats these? (That's an honest question!)
Maybe some native USian can explain? ... Mind you, we eat some strange and heavy sweet stuff here in Germany - and those in the Link are seriously borderline and sugary enough to put an elephant into a diabetic coma (think super-soft fluffy marshmallow fluff covered with chocolate) - but I really don't get this Twinkies thing. The cake is basically air barely held together by something remotely resembly french bisquite dough and the filling looks, feels and tastes like something scratched from the bottom of a septic tank.
Once again: Why are Twinkies a thing in the US? Please explain.
Thanks.
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Save your energy and put it behind a guaranteed income movement in your province or country. No point it people working in factories if robots can do it. Have you ever worked in a factory? it sucks ass!
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Perhaps you should try an actual answer instead of bromides.
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Tagged Insightful? Really? I'm gobsmacked. I'm trying to come up with a way of accurately describing the idea to " reduce the standard working week by one hour per year until we reach a 20 hour standard week." without being insulting, and I'm not sure there is one. This is a HORRIBLE idea. It is built on the flawed fundamental assumption that there are a fixed number of jobs. Look to history for a simple rebuttal. Global population has gone from 3 - 7.4 billion since 1960 and employment % is roughly the same. In the US 180 -320 million population while unemployment has stayed between 4-10% Technology has been eliminating some jobs while creating more new ones since the beginning of the industrial revolution. Reducing the work week to 20 hours is impractical. If you can't get almost everyone on earth to abide by 20 then the system fails. There are a lot of countries; a lot of global true poor; and a lot of people who enjoy work. Reducing the work week to 20 hours is immoral. The only way you can hope to achieve this, even within your own country, is by force. No one has the moral authority to tell someone else how many hours they can work. Reducing the work week to 20 hours is counter productive. By doing so you basically reduce the productivity of the affected region by half compared to 40 hr. weeks. This includes production of food, machinery, housing, and also things like scientific and medical discoveries, art, education, entertainment... everything. .
Let's say this Twinkie represents the output of the factory prior to automation. According to our data, after automation it would be a Twinkie 35 feet long weighing approximately 600 pounds.
Reprise the theme song and roll the credits!
Ideally, if there was an excess of labor, we'd hire them to do something useful beneficial to the public, like build infrastructure, conduct research, create art. But that would be socialism.
With Obamacare jacked and social services strained by the treasonous POTUS letting millions (literally, millions) of foreigners in...
You can thank your CIA for 9/11 and fucking up the national debt. What affect does this have on society? The dollar is a debt instrument not money. The USA is almost 70 trillion dollars in debt, while reporting only 20 trillion in debt. Divide that number by the population see how much eery man woman and child owes even right now.
Those that noticed started selling properties to Chinese investment firms and others too. Buy a lot of rice and vodka or pray.
This is why we need people to start seriously considering a universal base income.
Hey!
I only boycott things I will never buy anyway... makes it a lot easier. currently on the list:
Ferrari
Tofurky
Islands with an active volcano.
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You do realize that's attacking a straw man with an irrelevant comparison? Unless you can point to the U.S. factory that was ran by HP, Dell, Apple etc etc that had employed tens of thousands of people, only to fire most of them to drive up "shareholder revenue", of course.
Nobody should be eating this garbage anyways. Nobody. If anything the people making this crap should be thrown in jail for poisoning people with this sugar filled grease crap.
People wonder why there is an obesity crisis in this country.
The worst part is 99% of the people in this /. thread are complaining about the taste! Taste? What taste? The taste of shit?
As for the factory being automated, 99% of the time the slashdrones around here are all for it, but for some reason, when it comes to twinkies...you guys get all bent out of shape.
I actually think the problem started for them when they stopped making the chocodiles nationwide, so you'd either have to move near the California bakery that kept making them or find a broker. The old, single-item 'diles were always better because the outer chocolate covering would keep the inner cake and cream super fresh and moist. That's when I lost interest. And the frozen ones kill the whole concept, resulting in an often cracked outer chocolate and dry cake. If they fix the chocodile, I'll be back to truckloads, robots or not. Robot-related jobs are harder to outsource than pure manual labor jobs so I'm all for them.
The new Hostess is crap. The products, including Twinkies, are smaller and taste like the generic knock-offs we all used to avoid because they paled in comparison to Hostess. I miss real Twinkies, but there's nothing that says capitalism like a good company being sold out to an investment holding firm that proceeds to liquidate everything that made the company great.
The more profit = more employees - trickle down effect doesn't really hold much argument in this example, eh?
you don't just "update your skills". Odds are you had a very minimal education. Enough to get you the factory job. That was kinda the point of schools. You do realize what the bells are for, right? Go read "A People's History of the United States" for a start.
Now there's nothing to retrain to. Seriously, you're not going to take someone that barely reads and turn them into a biotech worker. You're either going to let them starve to death or you're going to socialize. It's up to guys like you to decide. The guys who still say "It's their fault they didn't update their skills". Guys like me already know it's unreasonable to ask people in their 40s to do that.
Oh, and does anyone else thing it's funny that we're suppose to replace the drudgery of unending factory work with a never ending cycle of desperately retraining for new work?
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is owned by those same very, very rich people and they're pushing an anti-Union narrative so they can drive down wages. That's really all there is to it. What Fox News with a critical mind and it's scary as hell.
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it was intentionally run into the ground so that they could get out of paying pensions. It was just a bunch of rich assclowns running a scam to steal private pensions. Truckers are next. They'd do it to the army guys if they were afraid they might revolt.
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Read TFA. Hostess went out-of-business. There were zero employees. The buyers of the brand have a new business, and there are over a thousand employees.
It is best that governments and capitalist pigs be scared of the people. If it scares you that people do not embrace giving them a free ride, give some thought to why you feel that way.
I buy all of my organic vegan GMO-free snack cakes from fair trade pigmea dwarf co-op factories.
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There, I said it.
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These so called "vulture capitalists" usually tend to get involved only when a business is ALREADY FAILING and will cease to exist without some kind of non-traditional cash infusion. In exchange for providing the funding for the company to continue to exist (and taking on significant risk of losing much of their investment), they understandably want to get some kind of return, and they want the business to streamline operations and, if possible, become profitable. Sure, some are probably cooked, but quite frankly, people like Bain may have even done more good than bad overall if you actually take the time to look at things on the larger scale and in perspective.
The former Hostess had become an unsustainable business, period. Yes, this was the result of gross mismanagement over the years, but how can you not mis-manage a company with thousands of essentially unskilled workers demanding insanely above-market salaries and going on strike if they don't keep them? They were far more than 30% above market salaries and had very inefficient operations, so the products were too expensive and couldn't compete with Little Debbie, etc, especially in light of many people purchasing more "healthy" snack foods and less pure junk food.
While not quite as bad, you're really starting to edge closer to sounding like the equivalent of "Those awful emergency room doctors KILLED the patient, look how many of the people they treat end up dying!!! Something must be done to stop them!"
Obvious troll talking to himself is obvious.
Gros Michel banana did not go extinct it just had the same problem as the Cavendish has now, I blame the world wide monoculture for bananas.
That's a distinction that exists largely on paper. Aside from the purged parts, new title, new owners, and worse product, it is the same essential company.
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You can really taste the automation!
This story is nothing more than the natural progression of something that started in the early 20th century. We used to have people who held the title of 'machinist'. Now we have machines called 'CNC's which perform the same job to a better precision and produce identical parts. Being a machinist was an art form. Since the invention of 'machine tools' we have slowly moved away from the art to a repeatable process. Eventually factories will employ no one, or essentially no one. Stock will be dropped off and finished product will be picked up without ever encountering a human being. No lights, no breaks, no vacations, no unions, no variance. Perhaps a team of maintenance workers, but there would be no reason to house them at a single plant. This is the future of manufacturing.
Similarly we are automating the office. I am old enough to remember six-part forms and hallways filled with file cabinets. Now the same information can be housed on a single drive. I remember call centers which employed thousands of agents. Now there is a computer program which can get you through at least the front few interactions. As we continue along this line of reasoning, there are a number of jobs which will fall into oblivion just as the machinist has. The basic premise is if the human being is following a script, or a decision tree, or a detailed process; I don't need a human being for that. Humans are needed for exceptions, not wrote processing.
There is of course an impact to this move towards automation. We don't need unskilled workers who can absorb the necessary training through OJT. This then eliminates the need for a vast number of now middle class workers. They move into the poverty class and the societal divide widens. Not everything intended for good is limited to positive consequences.
If you are a factory worker now, how do you ensure employability? Learn how to repair robots.
If you are a low level office employee now what do you do? Learn how to automate your own processes.
For something a little closer to my own profession, if you are a Route/Switch engineer (Networking IT professional) what should you prepare for? Learn how to program. You job is nearly obviated now. It's called 'Software Defined Networking'. The days of troubleshooting OSPF/EIGRP are nearly at a close.
Automation is the natural outflow of specialization and advancement. As you work towards making your job more repeatable and predictive, you work towards ending your employment.
I don't know if you recall, but Hostess got bit in the ass by labor unions (massive strike). Instead of capitulating, they shut down the company and fired everyone. Recall the great Twinkie shortage? It wasn't that long ago... Well, now they're back (actually came back last year), and using automation. Lessons learned. What did the leftist labor unions accomplish? The loss of 21k jobs.
I haven't had a Twinkie in over 30 years. My children know what a Twinkie is, not natural, and refuse to consume any part of it. More processed garbage for unhealthy people.
At last i have the balls to stand up for something i believe. Whats funny is getting down-voted as a troll for my opinion.
Jack of all trades,master of none
yes i have worked in a factory some of the best people ive ever meet in my life.
Jack of all trades,master of none
Why bother with machine food?
The union was the cause of their own demise.
While I feel sorry for the workers who lost their jobs, there was no way they could continue to operate at their previous costs. There is a side of me that is relieved to know that I can still buy a box of twinkies to enjoy with one of my favorite Zombie movies.
Too much of my childhood was spent with twinkies and it was depressing to think that future generations would be denied that opportunity.
I'm surprised, are you? I'm surprised...
Are those Twinkies, et al, really edible?! Surely the gov could outlaw them for kids, as a step to curb the obesity epidemic in the USA.
Now they may even get cheaper!
Self-importance and self-indulgence is the root of ALL evil.
I'm more scared of anyone using the term "capitalist pig". I thought that went out with Rumble Seats.
and I was sad that I had done so. I don't know if it's my aging taste buds, or if it's changes in the product, but man that sucked.
Sadly, since my last Twinkie was probably 20 years ago, I REALLY don't know if it's me or them. I suspect it's mostly them, though.
A thousand pounds of wood moving at 300 feet per minute. Don't get in the way.
Ok, since I live in the shadow of the former Hostess, let me set this straight. The old Hostess bakery had 22,000 employees, as well as 352 labor contracts and 5,500 delivery routes. The only thing that the "new Hostess" has is the name and the snack foods. They didn't purchase (at auction) the bread baking business, and the delivery business and all that other stuff. So, the new company has automated but has 1200 employees. However the new company does much, much less than the old company.
Just say'n
"I like to think of myself as a billion-dollar asshole," Hostess chief executive Bill Toler said
"I like to think of myself as a billion-dollar asshole," Hostess chief executive Bill Toler said.
the optimal solution would be to pay people to make them, and have robots consume them.
Star Trek transporters are just 3d printers.
Just complete the full circle of synthetic robo food already.
The U-3 number doesn't account for such realities like:
* Lowered labor participation rates
* Amount done by citizens vs. non-citizens
* Regional differences
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That link really says nothing.
Never mind that the new company went all out against these people, contracts be damned.
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That doesn't relate to the snarky comment, much less the hate expressed by the new company.
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Nothing says that I've forced that or used anything of that bent.
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Yeah, because the people causing the company to go bankrupt is the company's fault...clearly they should have just paid more and made negative income, that would have solved everything.
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
You're relying on the assumption that such rehiring is done by force. I suggest a potential means for such rehiring that has a lowered impact on the company.
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