Excuse me if I missed something here, but how will a Microsoft development benefit the XFree project? Their source is closed and they don't like to share. What will the X developers copy, their structure?
Well they had plenty of time to carefully study Nazi tactics. They were very, um, effective tactics to say the least, so it's no surprise the current militarized gov't is taking the steps they are.
Maybe they'd cool it if the US cut out the 6 billion in foreign aid (75% of that is earmarked for US arms purchases).
Unfortunately, since we run Linux and BSD, we have to do a moderate amount of research before we buy bleeding edge or 'different' hardware. Strangely enough, I find that these days even the most obscure pieces of hardware are supported (a Soyo KiKY-X USB playstation controller convertor? yes!). So while once in awhile you may have to hunt down driver sources and compile them, if you do some research beforehand you may never have to compile anything.
Make the propeller blades out of NERF! Also put cameras on top of each pole. You can then sell the video to America's Funniest Home Videos and make some money to help pay for the Nerf conversion. The birds get a chance to learn this way! And it's fun for the whole family. *bonk* hahah look at the sillie birdie *baf* almost got him that time!
So by separating half-white, half-aborigine children from the aboriginies, that's akin to killing off swaths of non-native wildlife? I thought there was a parallel here but I fail to see it. On one hand you're killing non-native species, on the other you're separating half-breed children from their families and attempting to integrate them into the general population. I don't agree with it but I fail to see the relation.
The emotionally charged google image search might have impressed your local meat-is-murder gang but has little effect on me. A link to an article would be more beneficial when divulging information on a topic.
Regardless, the approach to carp control is a valid one. Even if a small percentage of these carp were exported by accident, they wouldn't make a dent on large populations. Consider a single carp carrying this gene among thousands. It may find one or many females to breed with, but the odds are against him. Maybe he finds zero (this is in the wild of course) and dies naturally. Simply releasing these fish into a population is a calculated risk, there are no guarantees that they will survive long enough to breed or find females at the right time. Therefore a limited accidental export of these fish have an extremely minute chance of effecting large wild populations elsewhere.
Australia has a long history of failures, indeed, but then they have a special environment they're trying to protect and restore. Just because us westerners are easily manipulated by 'cute bunny' images doesn't mean it's not a serious problem elsewhere, and Oz has every right to control local populations. Sure, the disease was a big oops, but GM is relatively safer.
Evolutionary advances usually work to benefit species in a specific habitat. The parrots in rainforests are colorful so they stand out in the dense greenery. Poisonous treefrogs are colored in such a way as to warn predators of their deadly nature. They all evolved as an interdependent group. Taken out and placed in a foreign environment, they'd either die or thrive depending on how well suited they were for the new environment, as well as how the environment reacted to them.
Rabbits being introduced met little resistance. They have grass to eat everywhere and very few things eat them. Also they are very prodigious breeders, therefore they spread. Same goes for the carp. In a native environment there are checks and balances. Remove a check and throw off the balance.
In North America we have eagles, hawks, bears etc. that really enjoy fish as well as plenty of fishers. If we were to drop the brown bear into Australia, he would probably die with a quickness. Now, drop a bald eagle into Oz, he may do well. Prey generally do better in a foreign environment than predators.
Well performance tuning or not, my point was that their cluster with ridiculous timing, still withstood a slashdotting. I can almost guarantee you that a pentium 200 with 64mb of ram can withstand a slashdotting on a t1. The bandwidth is the limiting factor.
My point is that Linux shouldn't be used to mean 'every distro of linux' because they all have different idiosyncracies that make them better or worse than other distros. You can't really lump all distros into one category when you're drawing parallels to installing drivers and the difficulties to be had with such.
I'm no zealot, but I defend what I like. Fairness is paramount.
Actually they had some success in the 1950's with wiping out the local rabbit population due to a long drought..unfortunately the drought ended and the rabbits multiplied fivefold. The foxes were introduced both for hunting and to control the rabbit population. The problem with foxes is they like to eat lots more than just rabbits.
I agree with your assessment about Australia as an independent continent. If they are doing this to the freshwater species there, I don't see how they could ever spread (in any reasonable number) to another continent.
I guarantee that if this is successful, the other troublesome creatures there are next on the list. You can bet that this is a trial run.
I don't see a problem with it. There are a number of damaging species that were introduced to Australia that are not native. The rabbit population has been a huge problem, damaging and destroying crops that sheep graze on, digging up dirt to uproot local flora, displacing other native populations, etc. In the US, if you mention chemical testing on rabbits, you get booed; in Australia they cheer. The carp problem is no different.
The problem with Australia is that it's such a darwinian island with such carefully balanced local species that introduction of nearly any foreign creature leads to devastation. The introduction of feril cats has been a huge problem for many such islands.
While the US and other large continents can support minute changes in environment without too many negative effects, Australia cannot. I support their decision to control foreign populations inside their borders and restore balance to the delicate ecosystem there. Australia is a unique island and they have much different problems than the rest of us. Hence their solutions being more extreme than we would undertake.
They're so dumb that kids can catch them with a baseball bat. I used to do this as a child when I went to visit my dad in Southern Illinois. They're easy to spot in the water (anything that long is), one good whack and you caught a fish.
The only drawback is they taste like ass, so they're more fun to kill than eat.
If you're running a distro that requires you to recompile your kernel to gain hardware support, you've got the wrong distro.
Get a swiss army knife kernel like Mandrake and others use..they create ALL possible modules for you and they're just a modprobe away. That's why hardware support is so much better on the 'easy' distros. Remember, easy doesn't mean 'not good'.
That's true. The Dallas Morning News is running a Redhat load balanced cluster, and when 9/11 hit they effectively got slashdotted. They have a measley t1 pipe to the outside world and the pipe got full, none of their boxes went down but to the public it looked as though their site was hosed. Part of this was due to the way they have Apache setup...each process has a 10 second wait for the jsp stuff to build. If you know you're headed for a/.'ing the least you can do is throw up a static page that's cached in ram.
Yeah I got freaked out driving in Dallas today. Passed an 'emissions inspection station' that was setup right next to an on-ramp. Sniffer and camera built into one huge unit. I guess if your car isn't running clean enough they'll send you a ticket but with the jalopies I see around here, who knows how accurate they are. I've never seen them before and it's odd they're out now since the ozone levels are great this time of year.
Just hope I don't get a 77 lincoln making a smokescreen in front of me when I pass one of these.:(
LiveDVD's aren't necessary yet. From what I've heard from developers, you can fit around 2 gigs of uncompressed data onto a 700mb CD before you compress it and use cloop to decompress on the fly once the cd is running. Kernel 2.6 has newer cloop-style stuff in it and is supposed to smash things even smaller. Believe it or not, the PCLinuxOS is very full featured and has lots of bells and whistles on the disk.
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Well luckily for those of you running XP right now, you don't have to worry about Longhorn for another 2 years or so.
Mentioning it this year is just...foolish. Remember, windows 2k came out late and Win98..well just remember it wasn't exactly 1998.
Excuse me if I missed something here, but how will a Microsoft development benefit the XFree project? Their source is closed and they don't like to share. What will the X developers copy, their structure?
Dude, that has to be the longest continuous sentence I have ever read on /. IANAL, but I think you might be.
Well they had plenty of time to carefully study Nazi tactics. They were very, um, effective tactics to say the least, so it's no surprise the current militarized gov't is taking the steps they are.
Maybe they'd cool it if the US cut out the 6 billion in foreign aid (75% of that is earmarked for US arms purchases).
Unfortunately, since we run Linux and BSD, we have to do a moderate amount of research before we buy bleeding edge or 'different' hardware. Strangely enough, I find that these days even the most obscure pieces of hardware are supported (a Soyo KiKY-X USB playstation controller convertor? yes!). So while once in awhile you may have to hunt down driver sources and compile them, if you do some research beforehand you may never have to compile anything.
Here's the solution right here:
Make the propeller blades out of NERF! Also put cameras on top of each pole. You can then sell the video to America's Funniest Home Videos and make some money to help pay for the Nerf conversion. The birds get a chance to learn this way! And it's fun for the whole family. *bonk* hahah look at the sillie birdie *baf* almost got him that time!
So by separating half-white, half-aborigine children from the aboriginies, that's akin to killing off swaths of non-native wildlife? I thought there was a parallel here but I fail to see it. On one hand you're killing non-native species, on the other you're separating half-breed children from their families and attempting to integrate them into the general population. I don't agree with it but I fail to see the relation.
That sure is a large canyon to cross.
I know it was a Simpsons reference, although it didn't really apply.
Again, nice try.
Dude, come on. You know you have Nimoy's rendition of "Put a little love in your heart" in your playlist. It's ok, you're with FRIENDS here.
For a minute I thought Spock was dead, but it's Bones that bit the dust already.
They really COULD do another movie.
Nice pipe you have there. 2.6k/sec! Woohoo! I'll have the clip tomorrow!
The problem is, nobody wants to fish for carp. They taste like shit and waste your time. They'd have to hire people to fish for them.
The GM approach is probably cheaper than hiring hundreds of thousands of people to fish full time for something they can't eat.
The emotionally charged google image search might have impressed your local meat-is-murder gang but has little effect on me. A link to an article would be more beneficial when divulging information on a topic.
Regardless, the approach to carp control is a valid one. Even if a small percentage of these carp were exported by accident, they wouldn't make a dent on large populations. Consider a single carp carrying this gene among thousands. It may find one or many females to breed with, but the odds are against him. Maybe he finds zero (this is in the wild of course) and dies naturally. Simply releasing these fish into a population is a calculated risk, there are no guarantees that they will survive long enough to breed or find females at the right time. Therefore a limited accidental export of these fish have an extremely minute chance of effecting large wild populations elsewhere.
Australia has a long history of failures, indeed, but then they have a special environment they're trying to protect and restore. Just because us westerners are easily manipulated by 'cute bunny' images doesn't mean it's not a serious problem elsewhere, and Oz has every right to control local populations. Sure, the disease was a big oops, but GM is relatively safer.
Evolutionary advances usually work to benefit species in a specific habitat. The parrots in rainforests are colorful so they stand out in the dense greenery. Poisonous treefrogs are colored in such a way as to warn predators of their deadly nature. They all evolved as an interdependent group. Taken out and placed in a foreign environment, they'd either die or thrive depending on how well suited they were for the new environment, as well as how the environment reacted to them.
Rabbits being introduced met little resistance. They have grass to eat everywhere and very few things eat them. Also they are very prodigious breeders, therefore they spread. Same goes for the carp. In a native environment there are checks and balances. Remove a check and throw off the balance.
In North America we have eagles, hawks, bears etc. that really enjoy fish as well as plenty of fishers. If we were to drop the brown bear into Australia, he would probably die with a quickness. Now, drop a bald eagle into Oz, he may do well. Prey generally do better in a foreign environment than predators.
Well performance tuning or not, my point was that their cluster with ridiculous timing, still withstood a slashdotting. I can almost guarantee you that a pentium 200 with 64mb of ram can withstand a slashdotting on a t1. The bandwidth is the limiting factor.
My point is that Linux shouldn't be used to mean 'every distro of linux' because they all have different idiosyncracies that make them better or worse than other distros. You can't really lump all distros into one category when you're drawing parallels to installing drivers and the difficulties to be had with such.
I'm no zealot, but I defend what I like. Fairness is paramount.
Um, you know we're talking about Australia right? Australia is hot year-round. Nice try though.
Actually they had some success in the 1950's with wiping out the local rabbit population due to a long drought..unfortunately the drought ended and the rabbits multiplied fivefold. The foxes were introduced both for hunting and to control the rabbit population. The problem with foxes is they like to eat lots more than just rabbits.
I agree with your assessment about Australia as an independent continent. If they are doing this to the freshwater species there, I don't see how they could ever spread (in any reasonable number) to another continent.
I guarantee that if this is successful, the other troublesome creatures there are next on the list. You can bet that this is a trial run.
I don't see a problem with it. There are a number of damaging species that were introduced to Australia that are not native. The rabbit population has been a huge problem, damaging and destroying crops that sheep graze on, digging up dirt to uproot local flora, displacing other native populations, etc. In the US, if you mention chemical testing on rabbits, you get booed; in Australia they cheer. The carp problem is no different.
The problem with Australia is that it's such a darwinian island with such carefully balanced local species that introduction of nearly any foreign creature leads to devastation. The introduction of feril cats has been a huge problem for many such islands.
While the US and other large continents can support minute changes in environment without too many negative effects, Australia cannot. I support their decision to control foreign populations inside their borders and restore balance to the delicate ecosystem there. Australia is a unique island and they have much different problems than the rest of us. Hence their solutions being more extreme than we would undertake.
They're so dumb that kids can catch them with a baseball bat. I used to do this as a child when I went to visit my dad in Southern Illinois. They're easy to spot in the water (anything that long is), one good whack and you caught a fish.
The only drawback is they taste like ass, so they're more fun to kill than eat.
If you're running a distro that requires you to recompile your kernel to gain hardware support, you've got the wrong distro.
Get a swiss army knife kernel like Mandrake and others use..they create ALL possible modules for you and they're just a modprobe away. That's why hardware support is so much better on the 'easy' distros. Remember, easy doesn't mean 'not good'.
That's true. The Dallas Morning News is running a Redhat load balanced cluster, and when 9/11 hit they effectively got slashdotted. They have a measley t1 pipe to the outside world and the pipe got full, none of their boxes went down but to the public it looked as though their site was hosed. Part of this was due to the way they have Apache setup...each process has a 10 second wait for the jsp stuff to build. If you know you're headed for a /.'ing the least you can do is throw up a static page that's cached in ram.
I'm really impressed. With your super low user number, you've gotta be one of the first trolls on slashdot, ever.
:)
I'm humbled fine troll.
Yeah I got freaked out driving in Dallas today. Passed an 'emissions inspection station' that was setup right next to an on-ramp. Sniffer and camera built into one huge unit. I guess if your car isn't running clean enough they'll send you a ticket but with the jalopies I see around here, who knows how accurate they are. I've never seen them before and it's odd they're out now since the ozone levels are great this time of year.
:(
Just hope I don't get a 77 lincoln making a smokescreen in front of me when I pass one of these.
LiveDVD's aren't necessary yet. From what I've heard from developers, you can fit around 2 gigs of uncompressed data onto a 700mb CD before you compress it and use cloop to decompress on the fly once the cd is running. Kernel 2.6 has newer cloop-style stuff in it and is supposed to smash things even smaller. Believe it or not, the PCLinuxOS is very full featured and has lots of bells and whistles on the disk.