I have to tend to agree that, in a perfect world, every human does diserve the right to life, liberty, and the persuit of happiness... if this were a perfect world we wouldn't have staving, poor, uneducated, non-useful people.
A little help with birth control to prevent the production of more of these surplus humans would be a heck of a lot more useful than just feeding, clothing, and protecting them from diseases so they can grow up and breed.
The ability to make and use tools are the only thing that (realy) differentiates us from shaved gorillas who have been taught sign language. A computer o/s is a tool (and Linux is the result of multiple human generations of work). With tools we might eventualy be able to leave the planet, thereby preventing the extintion of the entire species by some random cosmic event. (Such as an astroid hitting the earth while we wern't paying attention). Poor, uneducated people in 3rd world countries arn't contributing to this kind of thing, and even if they are their contribution is so minimal as to be non-existant.
Just because they're alive doesn't mean people are useful!
I think what I was saying is that "Linus Torvalds contributions to humanity are going to do more to improve the average quality of life than Mother Theresa's preventing random uneducated starving people from dying has done".
Just because I base my system of beliefs diferently than you do doesn't make me a "Sick Person". I just believe that the death of people who cannot even support themselves and most likely will not contribute to society is well, probably, on average, a good thing.
Remember. The average quality of life on earth will go UP if that 10% of the population with the lowest quality of life were to die off. What mother Theresa was doing would DECREASE the average quality of life on earth by allowing that lowest 10% to reproduce, causing there to be more of them and decreasing their quality of life further.
No, he was first to get a high profile project widely accepted. And, he made use of one of the most powerful abilities we humans have, the ability to build on the work of others.
Which helps the world more: Keeping starving poor people in 3rd world countries alive so they can breed and produce more starving poor people. Producing somthing that actively challenges the theory that in a capitolist society everthing MUST be done for the maximum possible profit, somthing that directly helps everyone have access to the "Information Revolution" - probably the most important thing since the enlightenment in the 1700s and 1800s. (That's the Information Revolution that I refer to) Yea, I pick "#2: Promoting the spread of knowledge" over "#1: Keeping alive starving poor people to breed"
KDE is great, but it will not destroy Microsoft. Microsoft makes more then Windows. That's where their power comes from. As long as huge awesome apps like Office (don't tell me it's 'bloatware' and shit, you stupid zealots. Only hackers still use text-editors.) need all of Windows special Win32 features, Microsoft will sell Windows.
Have you ever heard of Corel Word Perfect? Star Office? Applix thinggie?... No not quite as good as MS Office, but good enough for most things. And things like AbiWord are improving. -- Thats the thing about Linux and it's apps, it's always IMPROVING faster than MS-Stuff. BTW: Office IS bloatware! =P
And worse then that, as soon as programming KDE or Gnome or any Linux thing stops being fun (if Linux becomes #1), everyone will stop coding for it. Some new little OS will catch hackers' eyes and it will become the Next Big Thing.
No. This is where you're totally wrong. The reasons hackers want to code for Linux are not it's lack of usage, they're the fact that it's easy to develop on and it's open source. --- Popularity will only promote commercial app development, not discourage Open Source "hacker" app development
Guys this is all just realism. We do this Linux thing because it's a hobby. Us hackers are the type of people who like to know what no one else knows. We like to have secret weapons to show off if need be. If everyone uses Linux, then what is the point anymore?
Huh? No. For most of us (I think) that was never the point (or mabie it was, but it isn't now). The point is to be using the best, most expandable, O/S out there. Right now, Linux is it.
And even if you are right... 5 to 7 years??? Come on! What we know of user interfaces will be NOTHING like right now in 5 to 7 years! If anything, we will sit and have conversations with our computers. I know I don't want to be looking at some dumb colorful icon while I chat with my machine. Each UI serves a purpose, and KDE will either fall or change into something that is no longer what we know of KDE.
You could be right, you could be wrong. I personally will frequently prefer to be using a combo of combo of all the possible I/O meathods from me to my computer over using just any one I/O method. I have no idea what computing will be like in 7 years, but KDE will probably contribute. (As to how much...)
Go ahead and argue, but this is how things always turn out. Shit. That's quite a comment! I don't think I have ever posted so much at once!
Always? In all the previous times when a kick ass Open Source GUI/E tried to compete with a more popular propriatory GUI/E...
Tool like a space shuttle, not tool like a hammer.
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This is a diferentiation that is important.
With a space shuttle, you have to understand the basic theory behind 3D 0G motion to operate it
Java is a load of crap, it's too slow and kludged to ever matter.
As the price of hardware goes down, it'll continue to look better and better to have your processing power and storage locally.
Other than price, there are no real advantages to the thin client model for home users.
Working with an app running locally will always be faster than working with an app running far away, even if it gets down to the fact that light travels short distances faster than long distances. (This totaly ignores line noise, etc, which would be the real problems)
Which would you rather do, pay $50 to "purchase" a copy of a program, or pay $20/month to use a program?
If it were pre-installed on a computer it would be usable out of the box just as quickly and easily as MS-Windows, and it would have more software avalible.
Eithor the Gnome+E or the KDE which is included on the RH6 CD is totaly usable by any random user who happens to feel like doing so.
Does Windows come with Corel WP? -- no -- you have to go pay $50 to $500 to get a good word processor.
WP for Linux Works absolutely fine, and comes on the RH6 CD. It may not be as huge as MS-Word, but it does what it has to do pretty well.
The Gnome/Enlighenment combo that comes with RH 6.0 is sufficiently easy to use that, if it's preconfigured with apps, any random windows user could use it.
Anonymous posting is a two edged sword wich ballances out.
On one hand, Anonymous posters (shouldn't be) accountable for what they say, as there should be no way to find out who said it.
On the other hand, people should realize that anonymous posters will not be accountable for their statements, so what an anonymous poster posts could easily be a load of bullshit.
If corporations can sue for "libel" then corporations can threaten to sue over anything that puts them in a bad light. This is a bad thing(TM), and would seriously and legaly inflict on free speach. It happens somewhat now, but if even those who post anonymously can be targeted?
I would say that freedom of speach also means freedom from restrictions on that speach. (Although I would also assume that "Freedom of Speach" refers to "Freedom to express concepts/ideas to others" as opposed to "Freedom to vocalize in any way at any time").
If people can now be sued for "libel", what's to prevent the US government from passing a law prohibiting "Promoting harmful political systems" and then the courts interprating "harmful" as anything that isn't the current US government.
Although, unfortunately, it is legal to discriminate against those under 18 in the US, it is not legal to discriminate against those over 18 on the basis of age. You would be well within your rights to threaten to sue the theartre for this. (And to even sue, but that's usualy too much work)
How, exactly, do you intend to make the game wrighters do anything? That sounds right up there with "making" the game wrighters switch to GPLing all their games instead of MSLing as they do now.
You'd have to intentionaly switch back to a VC, get a shell prompt, and type "lockvc" or "vlock". These programs, AFAIK, compleatly lock out keyboard input.
I think that the only way to get xlock to fully lock a user out of the system would be to eithor fix the hotkey bugs or to have logged in with XDM or equiv.
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Yea, the constitution says it "Trumps all of them" but in practice Congress and the Supreme Court ignore the Constitution.
Public schools would not be legal as they currently exist if the US followed it's own constitiution.
I have to tend to agree that, in a perfect world, every human does diserve the right to life, liberty, and the persuit of happiness... if this were a perfect world we wouldn't have staving, poor, uneducated, non-useful people.
A little help with birth control to prevent the production of more of these surplus humans would be a heck of a lot more useful than just feeding, clothing, and protecting them from diseases so they can grow up and breed.
The ability to make and use tools are the only thing that (realy) differentiates us from shaved gorillas who have been taught sign language. A computer o/s is a tool (and Linux is the result of multiple human generations of work). With tools we might eventualy be able to leave the planet, thereby preventing the extintion of the entire species by some random cosmic event. (Such as an astroid hitting the earth while we wern't paying attention). Poor, uneducated people in 3rd world countries arn't contributing to this kind of thing, and even if they are their contribution is so minimal as to be non-existant.
Just because they're alive doesn't mean people are useful!
I think what I was saying is that "Linus Torvalds contributions to humanity are going to do more to improve the average quality of life than Mother Theresa's preventing random uneducated starving people from dying has done".
Just because I base my system of beliefs diferently than you do doesn't make me a "Sick Person". I just believe that the death of people who cannot even support themselves and most likely will not contribute to society is well, probably, on average, a good thing.
Remember. The average quality of life on earth will go UP if that 10% of the population with the lowest quality of life were to die off. What mother Theresa was doing would DECREASE the average quality of life on earth by allowing that lowest 10% to reproduce, causing there to be more of them and decreasing their quality of life further.
No, he was first to get a high profile project widely accepted. And, he made use of one of the most powerful abilities we humans have, the ability to build on the work of others.
Which helps the world more: Keeping starving poor people in 3rd world countries alive so they can breed and produce more starving poor people. Producing somthing that actively challenges the theory that in a capitolist society everthing MUST be done for the maximum possible profit, somthing that directly helps everyone have access to the "Information Revolution" - probably the most important thing since the enlightenment in the 1700s and 1800s. (That's the Information Revolution that I refer to) Yea, I pick "#2: Promoting the spread of knowledge" over "#1: Keeping alive starving poor people to breed"
And these questions are answered in it.
KDE is great, but it will not destroy Microsoft. Microsoft makes more then Windows. That's where their power comes from. As long as huge awesome apps like Office (don't tell me it's 'bloatware' and shit, you stupid zealots. Only hackers still use text-editors.) need all of Windows special Win32 features, Microsoft will sell Windows.
Have you ever heard of Corel Word Perfect? Star Office? Applix thinggie?... No not quite as good as MS Office, but good enough for most things. And things like AbiWord are improving. -- Thats the thing about Linux and it's apps, it's always IMPROVING faster than MS-Stuff. BTW: Office IS bloatware! =P
And worse then that, as soon as programming KDE or Gnome or any Linux thing stops being fun (if Linux becomes #1), everyone will stop coding for it. Some new little OS will catch hackers' eyes and it will become the Next Big Thing.
No. This is where you're totally wrong. The reasons hackers want to code for Linux are not it's lack of usage, they're the fact that it's easy to develop on and it's open source. --- Popularity will only promote commercial app development, not discourage Open Source "hacker" app development
Guys this is all just realism. We do this Linux thing because it's a hobby. Us hackers are the type of people who like to know what no one else knows. We like to have secret weapons to show off if need be. If everyone uses Linux, then what is the point anymore?
Huh? No. For most of us (I think) that was never the point (or mabie it was, but it isn't now). The point is to be using the best, most expandable, O/S out there. Right now, Linux is it.
And even if you are right... 5 to 7 years??? Come on! What we know of user interfaces will be NOTHING like right now in 5 to 7 years! If anything, we will sit and have conversations with our computers. I know I don't want to be looking at some dumb colorful icon while I chat with my machine. Each UI serves a purpose, and KDE will either fall or change into something that is no longer what we know of KDE.
You could be right, you could be wrong. I personally will frequently prefer to be using a combo of combo of all the possible I/O meathods from me to my computer over using just any one I/O method. I have no idea what computing will be like in 7 years, but KDE will probably contribute. (As to how much...)
Go ahead and argue, but this is how things always turn out. Shit. That's quite a comment! I don't think I have ever posted so much at once!
Always? In all the previous times when a kick ass Open Source GUI/E tried to compete with a more popular propriatory GUI/E...
This is a diferentiation that is important.
With a space shuttle, you have to understand the basic theory behind 3D 0G motion to operate it
With a hammer, it's obvious: you hit somthing.
AFAIK a linux kernel written in Ada would never get up to the complexity level of Minix, because all the coders would get fed up.
If it were pre-installed on a computer it would be usable out of the box just as quickly and easily as MS-Windows, and it would have more software avalible.
Eithor the Gnome+E or the KDE which is included on the RH6 CD is totaly usable by any random user who happens to feel like doing so.
Does Windows come with Corel WP? -- no -- you have to go pay $50 to $500 to get a good word processor.
WP for Linux Works absolutely fine, and comes on the RH6 CD. It may not be as huge as MS-Word, but it does what it has to do pretty well.
The Gnome/Enlighenment combo that comes with RH 6.0 is sufficiently easy to use that, if it's preconfigured with apps, any random windows user could use it.
Yea, and if that happens the people running the "servers" will be able to charge by the hour for app usage.
This would be a Bad Thing(TM).
Anonymous posting is a two edged sword wich ballances out.
On one hand, Anonymous posters (shouldn't be) accountable for what they say, as there should be no way to find out who said it.
On the other hand, people should realize that anonymous posters will not be accountable for their statements, so what an anonymous poster posts could easily be a load of bullshit.
If corporations can sue for "libel" then corporations can threaten to sue over anything that puts them in a bad light. This is a bad thing(TM), and would seriously and legaly inflict on free speach. It happens somewhat now, but if even those who post anonymously can be targeted?
I would say that freedom of speach also means freedom from restrictions on that speach. (Although I would also assume that "Freedom of Speach" refers to "Freedom to express concepts/ideas to others" as opposed to "Freedom to vocalize in any way at any time").
If people can now be sued for "libel", what's to prevent the US government from passing a law prohibiting "Promoting harmful political systems" and then the courts interprating "harmful" as anything that isn't the current US government.
Or you could detect IE5 and just transparently redirect them to Netscape's download page.
I'd never use that site again! Isn't the point of a browser to be able to view HTML? Well, Netscape isn't HTML compatible.
The collected works of Shakespeare and all the religious books you want could not compete with the coolness of TPM.
But then . . . my opinion of Religious books and the works of Shakespere is pretty fragging low so . . .
Although, unfortunately, it is legal to discriminate against those under 18 in the US, it is not legal to discriminate against those over 18 on the basis of age. You would be well within your rights to threaten to sue the theartre for this. (And to even sue, but that's usualy too much work)
I know not of one OS that fits your discription for you to have been able to draw this conclusion from the usage of.
If you are just randomly pulling this conclusion out of your @ then please don't be bothering us with your baseless opinions
lag on doing anything, even more than the noticable lag when using a 486.
"Just because you can, doesn't mean it's the best solution"
How, exactly, do you intend to make the game wrighters do anything? That sounds right up there with "making" the game wrighters switch to GPLing all their games instead of MSLing as they do now.
If is "spurting jiz" then is Male, yes?
"Her" refers to a Female, yes?
Male + Female != "faggot" | "queercakes", yes?
You'd have to intentionaly switch back to a VC, get a shell prompt, and type "lockvc" or "vlock". These programs, AFAIK, compleatly lock out keyboard input.
I think that the only way to get xlock to fully lock a user out of the system would be to eithor fix the hotkey bugs or to have logged in with XDM or equiv.
it's still second degree murder.
I wouldn't do that if I were you. It's only legal to shoot an intruder in self defense, at least in MA, US where I live.
Yes, if an endeavour makes money it helps me, but only under circumstances such that it doesn't hurt me.
When I am in doubt as to wether somthing hurts me or not, it probably doesn't - and if it makes money, it helps me.
Be understanding that BO2K is a perfectly good remote admin tool, just like any commercial product (except is GPL, not commercial)
Be reading entire site at www.bo2k.com before you make judgement on what is BO2K and what it is intended for/good for.