Clearly this change of the fourth dimension from Lorentzian to Euclidean signature is happening because we are consuming too many fossil fuels and generating interdimensional carbon dioxide! Someone please alert Al Gore!!
Like it or not, Thunderbird does need to compete with Outlook. I'd be very happy if they'd maintain two builds: a "lite" version that only does mail, and a "groupware" version that integrates well with open source "Exchange killer" software. (I'm partial to Citadel because I'm involved in its development, but any server supporting standard iCalendar and vCard formats delivered over standard protocols will be just fine.)
(And yes, I used the "g" word. Proudly, in fact. Don't bother linking to JWZ's rant about it because he's wrong.).
Overall inflation is NOT 2 percent. Pretty much everything in the economy depends on energy, and with oil prices continuing to be outrageous, everything is going to continue to be more expensive.
According to Greg Knauss, the definition of "Web 2.0" is:
The name given to the social and technical sophistication and maturity that mark the-- Oh, screw it. Money! Money money money! Money! The money's back! Ha ha! Money!
Why is Berners-Lee relevant? Has he done *anything* significant since the invention of the Web? Yes, it was a truly righteous hack that changed the world. But this does not make him an authority on geek culture.
(By the way, I expect Laura Didio and Enderle to write something like, "Well, darnit, looks like Novell owns the rights to Unix, not SCO. So we'll just wait for Novell to sue Linux for blatant copying of Unix source into Linux.")
Don't laugh. Now that Novell is essentially controlled by Microsoft, that could definitely happen. The big lawsuit for 2008 could be designed specifically to make sure that the only legal Linux users are SuSE users. Game over.
Perhaps they could even have several versions, such as a Thunderbird "Lite" that only does email, and a full version that does groupware (calendars, address books, etc.) If they're smart, they'll make an effort to interoperate with existing open source groupware servers such as Citadel or Kolab instead of wasting resources building their own. There really is a market for this stuff out there.
Give it some time, these things don't happen overnight. If you need something Right Now, you can check out Citadel, which Hula (now Bongo) was modelled after, and is very much in stable release right now (the current version is 7.20, this project has been around for years). Try it, you'll be very pleased.
Anyone who seriously looked at Zimbra already knows that it has a couple of limitations, one of which is that the "open source" version is quite stripped down. If you want the fully functional version you have to pay for it. It is also extremely resource hungry, carrying with it an entire Java application server, an entire copy of MySQL, etc. etc. etc.
That having been said, Zimbra does have a gorgeous UI and it'll be interesting to see what Yahoo does with it.
So what's left for those of us who want to run feature-rich groupware servers on our own hardware? Check out Citadel -- http://www.citadel.org. It is a mature, stable, and feature-rich platform with email, calendars, address books, bulletin boards, instant messaging, GroupDAV for rich clients, and a very nice AJAX web UI. Full support for Outlook will arrive later this year, too. The best part is that unlike Zimbra (or Scalix, for that matter), the whole system is released under the GPLv3. Just like the Ubuntu folks said a few years ago, "There is no 'enterprise' version. We make our very best work available to everyone under the same terms."
It took me some time to realize that was going on with my own Linux interests. And it's fine, but for real computer uses this isn't fun anymore. When it takes several hours of research and hacking to make any random new thing work, the OS isn't doing its job anymore. It's this aspect of Linux that made me pick OS X.
Umm... 1998 called, and they want their argument back.
I've been a Linux user since 1995 (and a Unix user since the early 1980's). Ubuntu has been the first Linux I ever installed that I didn't have to spend lots of time tweaking. I think it at least equals OS X in terms of usability.
One of my co-workers recently bought a JVC hard disk camcorder. I bought the same model. He had to tweak a bunch of stuff on his Mac manually to get the videos to play. I plugged mine in and Ubuntu figured everything out on its own, and the video started playing. Keep in mind that I haven't ever had to manually install anything on this machine. It "just works."
The days of Linux being an operating system exclusively for tinkerers is, quite simply, over. I suppose if you're into that sort of thing you can still put in Gentoo or Slackware and get your hack value, but for a desktop system, Ubuntu is pretty much state-of-the-art right now in terms of ease of use.
Through a decade of technological "progress" the Internet self-important-erati have slowly been inventing the equivalent of the venerable BBS. What's worse, those who arrived to the party late actually think they've created something new that hasn't been done before.
It's both amusing and frustrating to see the BBS spoken of as a technology of yesteryear, while mainstream Internet culture gets closer and closer to being an exact duplicate of BBS culture. Strip away all of the fancy buzzwords and you've basically got the same thing: people connecting to each other online.
As a BBS sysop of nearly 20 years (please visit us online!) I can say with certainty that nothing has changed. Everything old is new again. And may I say to the "Web 2.0" and "social network" people: you didn't invent it.
Remember the badly-named product called "OS/2 for Windows" ?? After IBM's rights to Win16 code expired, they released this product -- it basically installed OS/2 on top of Windows, but it kept enough of Windows intact that not only was your data preserved, but your license to Microsoft's code on that machine remained intact.
It would be interesting to see whether installing a Linux on top of an existing Windows machine could leverage that same type of method. Installing on top of an existing Windows system presumes that the Windows installation was paid for, and therefore the user is legally running things like multimedia codecs, a bunch of DLL's for use with Wine, etc.
Not saying it would necessarily be a good long-term idea, but it's interesting to think about.
This could be a great opportunity for the Mozilla Foundation. Thunderbird could be the basic, streamlined email client for people who "just want mail," while Eudora's default build could include all of the PIM functions like server-side address books and calendars, etc. And they can make it talk to open source email/collaboration servers (read: Exchange killers) like Citadel for a true end-to-end solution.
* Developers don't want to rewrite all of their applications in a new language.
* Locally installed applications will always provide a superior user experience.
(I don't see any reason why we shouldn't take every bad thing that Microsoft ever said about Java applets and THROW IT RIGHT BACK IN THEIR FACE right now.)
Why do you think Microsoft is scrambling for OOXML standardization? Because the document format lockin is a huge, huge part of Microsoft's monopoly strategy. If they're forced to be an equal player in the office suite space, making Office largely replaceable, then Windows is largely replaceable too.
And even if Microsoft manages to buy off enough countries to get ISO approval of OOXML next year... they've still got to deal with the unpleasant side effect of having a format that is fully documented, does not require reverse engineering, and will inevitably be implemented in non-Microsoft products.
Now is a good time to restart antitrust actions against Microsoft. With only a little over a year remaining in George "let 'em off the hook" Bush's term (I'm sure he can't even spell "antitrust"), the states can get the wheels spinning now, and hopefully the next administration won't be quite so monopoly-friendly and can start AND finish an antitrust suit before the term ends.
If you're going to go by LOC, then the operating system should be called "Sun/Linux" because Sun contributed a lot more code than GNU. OpenOffice dwarfs the GNU toolchain in terms of LOC.
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I'm not at all happy about this. Think about it. It has now been ruled that the Unix copyrights are owned by NOVELL. You know, the company that made a deal with the devil last fall? You know... Novell, aka the Linux division of Microsoft?
Before the ball drops at the end of 2007, we will see Novell (aka Microsoft) start to sue other Linux distributors. Red Hat and Canonical will be hobbled by lawsuits, Novell will become the dominant player, and Novell's corporate masters in Redmond will finally have Linux under their control.
Microsoft will try, and try, and try to divide the FOSS community, and each time they'll just make it stronger. Eventually the attempts will change Microsoft; the only real way it can fight and beat FOSS is to become FOSS.
So what you're saying is... we are the Borg, but this time the Borg are the good guys?:)
Does it matter anymore? The point was made years ago. Apache's triumph on the web was touted during a time when we were trying to make a point that open source software was legitimate for large scale use in the real world. Everyone knows that now. In fact, open source has conclusively, and probably forever, denied Microsoft a monopoly in the server market. If they are making gains now (and yes, their biggest gains are most certainly in parking sites, to whom they probably pay megabucks for no other purpose than to skew the Netcraft survey) it isn't really relevant.
...with the US assuming that the world ends at its borders. Good luck getting offshore web site operators to conform to some sort of mandatory rating system.
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Clearly this change of the fourth dimension from Lorentzian to Euclidean signature is happening because we are consuming too many fossil fuels and generating interdimensional carbon dioxide! Someone please alert Al Gore!!
Like it or not, Thunderbird does need to compete with Outlook. I'd be very happy if they'd maintain two builds: a "lite" version that only does mail, and a "groupware" version that integrates well with open source "Exchange killer" software. (I'm partial to Citadel because I'm involved in its development, but any server supporting standard iCalendar and vCard formats delivered over standard protocols will be just fine.)
(And yes, I used the "g" word. Proudly, in fact. Don't bother linking to JWZ's rant about it because he's wrong.).
Overall inflation is NOT 2 percent. Pretty much everything in the economy depends on energy, and with oil prices continuing to be outrageous, everything is going to continue to be more expensive.
The name given to the social and technical sophistication and maturity that mark the-- Oh, screw it. Money! Money money money! Money! The money's back! Ha ha! Money!
Microsoft is no longer insecure, says Microsoft. Yup. It's true because they said it's true.
I think today I shall declare that I am a seven foot tall baby chicken who can slam dunk a basketball. It's true because I say it's true.
Why is Berners-Lee relevant? Has he done *anything* significant since the invention of the Web? Yes, it was a truly righteous hack that changed the world. But this does not make him an authority on geek culture.
Perhaps they could even have several versions, such as a Thunderbird "Lite" that only does email, and a full version that does groupware (calendars, address books, etc.) If they're smart, they'll make an effort to interoperate with existing open source groupware servers such as Citadel or Kolab instead of wasting resources building their own. There really is a market for this stuff out there.
Anyone who seriously looked at Zimbra already knows that it has a couple of limitations, one of which is that the "open source" version is quite stripped down. If you want the fully functional version you have to pay for it. It is also extremely resource hungry, carrying with it an entire Java application server, an entire copy of MySQL, etc. etc. etc.
That having been said, Zimbra does have a gorgeous UI and it'll be interesting to see what Yahoo does with it.
So what's left for those of us who want to run feature-rich groupware servers on our own hardware? Check out Citadel -- http://www.citadel.org. It is a mature, stable, and feature-rich platform with email, calendars, address books, bulletin boards, instant messaging, GroupDAV for rich clients, and a very nice AJAX web UI. Full support for Outlook will arrive later this year, too. The best part is that unlike Zimbra (or Scalix, for that matter), the whole system is released under the GPLv3. Just like the Ubuntu folks said a few years ago, "There is no 'enterprise' version. We make our very best work available to everyone under the same terms."
I've been a Linux user since 1995 (and a Unix user since the early 1980's). Ubuntu has been the first Linux I ever installed that I didn't have to spend lots of time tweaking. I think it at least equals OS X in terms of usability.
One of my co-workers recently bought a JVC hard disk camcorder. I bought the same model. He had to tweak a bunch of stuff on his Mac manually to get the videos to play. I plugged mine in and Ubuntu figured everything out on its own, and the video started playing. Keep in mind that I haven't ever had to manually install anything on this machine. It "just works."
The days of Linux being an operating system exclusively for tinkerers is, quite simply, over. I suppose if you're into that sort of thing you can still put in Gentoo or Slackware and get your hack value, but for a desktop system, Ubuntu is pretty much state-of-the-art right now in terms of ease of use.
Through a decade of technological "progress" the Internet self-important-erati have slowly been inventing the equivalent of the venerable BBS. What's worse, those who arrived to the party late actually think they've created something new that hasn't been done before.
It's both amusing and frustrating to see the BBS spoken of as a technology of yesteryear, while mainstream Internet culture gets closer and closer to being an exact duplicate of BBS culture. Strip away all of the fancy buzzwords and you've basically got the same thing: people connecting to each other online.
As a BBS sysop of nearly 20 years (please visit us online!) I can say with certainty that nothing has changed. Everything old is new again. And may I say to the "Web 2.0" and "social network" people: you didn't invent it.
Remember the badly-named product called "OS/2 for Windows" ?? After IBM's rights to Win16 code expired, they released this product -- it basically installed OS/2 on top of Windows, but it kept enough of Windows intact that not only was your data preserved, but your license to Microsoft's code on that machine remained intact.
It would be interesting to see whether installing a Linux on top of an existing Windows machine could leverage that same type of method. Installing on top of an existing Windows system presumes that the Windows installation was paid for, and therefore the user is legally running things like multimedia codecs, a bunch of DLL's for use with Wine, etc.
Not saying it would necessarily be a good long-term idea, but it's interesting to think about.
This could be a great opportunity for the Mozilla Foundation. Thunderbird could be the basic, streamlined email client for people who "just want mail," while Eudora's default build could include all of the PIM functions like server-side address books and calendars, etc. And they can make it talk to open source email/collaboration servers (read: Exchange killers) like Citadel for a true end-to-end solution.
* It's slow. Of course it's slow -- it's interpreted code.
* Cross-platform isn't doable. Write once, debug everywhere.
* Developers don't want to rewrite all of their applications in a new language.
* Locally installed applications will always provide a superior user experience.
(I don't see any reason why we shouldn't take every bad thing that Microsoft ever said about Java applets and THROW IT RIGHT BACK IN THEIR FACE right now.)
Now is a good time to restart antitrust actions against Microsoft. With only a little over a year remaining in George "let 'em off the hook" Bush's term (I'm sure he can't even spell "antitrust"), the states can get the wheels spinning now, and hopefully the next administration won't be quite so monopoly-friendly and can start AND finish an antitrust suit before the term ends.
We want Janet Reno -- for the exclusive purpose of re-opening the Microsoft antitrust investigation!
"Today we're hauling fiber optic cable for a new high speed network. I'm Mike Rowe, and this is my Dirty Job."
If you're going to go by LOC, then the operating system should be called "Sun/Linux" because Sun contributed a lot more code than GNU. OpenOffice dwarfs the GNU toolchain in terms of LOC.
I'm not at all happy about this. Think about it. It has now been ruled that the Unix copyrights are owned by NOVELL. You know, the company that made a deal with the devil last fall? You know ... Novell, aka the Linux division of Microsoft?
Before the ball drops at the end of 2007, we will see Novell (aka Microsoft) start to sue other Linux distributors. Red Hat and Canonical will be hobbled by lawsuits, Novell will become the dominant player, and Novell's corporate masters in Redmond will finally have Linux under their control.
Do you like the sound of that?
Does it matter anymore? The point was made years ago. Apache's triumph on the web was touted during a time when we were trying to make a point that open source software was legitimate for large scale use in the real world. Everyone knows that now. In fact, open source has conclusively, and probably forever, denied Microsoft a monopoly in the server market. If they are making gains now (and yes, their biggest gains are most certainly in parking sites, to whom they probably pay megabucks for no other purpose than to skew the Netcraft survey) it isn't really relevant.
...with the US assuming that the world ends at its borders. Good luck getting offshore web site operators to conform to some sort of mandatory rating system.