well except two of the boards had issues after 6 months
Yeah, if you like the MSI, order two so you have a spare on hand. That's been my unfortunate experience. Found ASRock after those experiences and haven't looked back.
You can find a bugzilla from about five years back where I had a problem with the built-in NIC on an ASUS mobo corrupting memory. Several others had the same problem on the same series of boards, and we were exchanging notes and working together on the bugzilla. Initially ASUS was helpful and looped in Atheros. But once we had a clear pattern (I mean a pattern of bit inversions in the hex dump), both went radio-silent.
I mean, what were they going to do, recall all the motherboards in that line just because they were no good? My time was worth more than the $90 for the mobo but we figured initially that its was a Linux driver bug and were trying to get to the bottom of it.
Anyway, had to rip it out and replace it (no slots left for another NIC in that application). Went to MSI ("oooh, jap caps") but those toasted (literally, burn marks on the mobo) quickly, found ASRock and haven't looked back.
I have an ASRock Z97 Extreme 4 in my cart at Amazon. Now don't you guys go buying them all before I put in the order on Friday.;)
Do you ever feel responsible or bad for all the lives 4chan have ruined? I mean there's a lot of anons that have a very unhealthy relationship to their favourite board and spends most of their waking time posting.
You're assuming the premise that these posters would have had normal, healthy lives if they didn't spend all their time on 4chan. If we know they engage in unhealthy mental behavior by spending all of their time on 4chan, then it's not a stretch to posit that they may have otherwise been involved in crime, drugs, or other self-destructive behaviours. That 4chan is a detriment in these cases is far from proven, and reason raises the possibility of an opposite effect.
They're against addiction, and they're against recreational drug use. Agree or disagree, why not take them at their word?
Because the evidence is all to the contrary.
Portugal ran the biggest experiment - 8 million people - and upon legalization, their drug use fell in half. The UK experienced the same thing in the reverse direction upon criminalization of e.g. heroin. The result is consistent with rational views of human incentives as well, so no logical surprises.
People who are pro- drug criminalization are for increased addiction rates. That's what reason predicts and that's what the empirical results are.
Whether or not these people are rational is immaterial to the consequences of their actions. We shall not give them a "pass" on "good intentions" if they lead us down the Road to Hell. The JAMA research suggests they're responsible for a minimum of one 9/11-scale effect every year.
It's like there's some kind of morality subtext that's really "pro pain" and opposed to feeling better
Yes, that's exactly right - Puritanism is a terribly destructive mindframe and thoroughly-ingrained in American culture.
Three things: 1) there a slight chance that these patients could have some fun or pleasure on these drugs. That's reason enough to put a foot down on society. 2) suffering is a virtue. God will lessen the suffering of those who are themselves virtuous, but for the same reason people whip and crucify themselves "for God", those suffering horribly from disease should not be brought from that blessing. 3) people with these afflictions may deserve them.
and those who profit handsomely from such ugly undercurrents in society are all too happy to exploit them for wealth and power.
c.f. A Renegade History of the United States for more on this. The author was fired from a university professorship for publishing such "radical" views on the failures of Puritanism.
people need to get out and start protesting and getting people on ballots to oust the cronies.
sorry, but that's the strategy which has been employed for the past two hundred years. The very best that could be said for it is that it has slowed the decline into totalitarianism. Even that is hard to prove.
I was just looking at that one a few hours ago (need to replace my desktop... Mozilla apps are pigs with high core-affinity).
I decided against it because it has many fewer of the new instructions than the 4790K, slower clock, and almost double the TDP (and I prefer quiet/low power).
Obviously for highly parallel tasks that can fit nicely in the 5820K's bigger cache, it will win handily. I'd love to see an ffmpeg coding shoot-out, but I'm concerned that the 5820K's disabled PCIe lanes might hamper other system performance (vs. e.g. the 5830K).
If anybody here has an ASRock Z97 mobo that they love, I'd like to hear about it.
Look, I'm all for getting as much Zmapp to patients as is possible. I think a lot of people are agreement on this.
But we also need to do something about the effed up process of the approval of drugs and vaccines for these deadly diseases.
I'm thinking specifically about the malaria vaccine that has been known to be effective since '96/'97, but which has been held up for extended testing trials by (IIRC) the British drug regulators, who again put a hold on it this spring because it might not be entirely effective in newborn infants.
Meanwhile two million children are dying every year from malaria. This is a really, really, really, screwed up situation, and we have an ethical obligation to do what we can to put an end to these processes.
Even if the latest delay is "only" three months, that's a half million kids or so. It's unconscionable how poor the risk management analysis is - the perfect can be the very, very deadly enemy of the good. And so can drug-agency bureaucrats.
I personally got in it because I like the idea of solving problems, rather than taking care of them for a short while.
Just don't mistake any of the trades for not being problem-solving professions. Laying out a plumbing stack, electrical plan, etc. and making it work seamlessly (err... perfectly), or welding together a skyscraper are very valid and worthy problem solving engagements. Same with shoeing a horse from rods of iron. You just get to move more in these jobs.
I'd love to hear from somebody who feels that writing a finance report module is more worthy an endeavour than building a house for a family. I'm not even confident that it could be proven to be a better productivity enhancer on a macro level as your report module will be thrown away in a few years, but that house will be there for a century.
End every punishment doled out by the government without a trial by jury.
Hey, but 93% of prosecutions end in plea bargains; we could not have nearly so many codified crimes and extensive prison systems if every person received a trial by a jury of his peers!
You monster - those prison guards have families to feed!
Because you can't have the government competing with them in an area that they might, someday, begin to consider serving.
Yeah, so... don't let them hear this too loudly... one way to get Comcast into a town (where that's the only neighboring monopoly) is to lay out plans on paper to have a market competitor build out a WISP to serve the town. It doesn't even have to be a great-coverage plan and you don't have to have affordable backhaul, but have some public hearings and make sure the papers cover it thoroughly - Comcast will be along shortly to talk to the town administrators about pulling cable, on their dime.
I've even seen this happen in sequence, from town to town.
It's long past time that federal judges start jailing these bureaucrats for contempt for not answering simple questions about the no-fly list.
Your mistake is assuming that the judges are interested in rule of law and justice, rather than perpetuation of the power of the State, and by extension their cushy jobs, pensions, and really nice cars and houses. When the first excuses the latter, you'll find synchronicity, but not by the converse. Otherwise a simple constitutional challenge would not be thrown out in deference to statute in 99.3% of cases.
You're probably thinking of Jedi, not Federal Judges. *Big* difference (and this is why we can't have nice things).
Hey, it says right in TFS "lobbyists, paid-for politicians, and lawsuits" - what part of the Free Market doesn't have "lobbyists, paid-for politicians, and lawsuits"?
Can't you see how this is a problem with voluntary trade and not fascism?
The truth is that infrastructure just isn't that conducive to competition.
Heh, just ten years ago I heard people saying that - shortly before Comcast offered phone service and before Verizon offered TV service. Both cable TV and telephone were "natural monopolies" before they weren't. To offer that Verizon had to replace their entire cable plant and Comcast had to replace much of it. What they didn't have to do was go through an extremely expensive political and regulatory process to get access to pole space (in the "public right of way").
Who'd want 3 different water/sewer systems connected to their house?
When the first two are charging $1000/mo for water and the third offers it for $50 a month, then the cost of laying the new piping can be amortized over a short enough time period that either customers or investors are willing to put up the money for the time-value return of the subscribers' rates.
It's exactly the same calculation for anything anybody calls a 'natural monopoly'. Absent an interfering government, the money flows to the best service provider.
It might even have a thin enough atmosphere to not completely crush a human.
If the gravity isn't too high, we can engineer around all the rest. Ought to be just fine for bots if the solder doesn't flow at its temps. A giant pot of natural resources at 11LY is very exciting for colonials!
If only they would allow directed donations. I'd gladly donate a hundred bucks towards the Electrolysis project but more likely my money would go towards FirefoxOS (ugh).
Im not 100% clear why we wouldnt want to get involved here, if ever there were a time to get involved.
Because of natural gas interests to benefit Europe, naturally. European countries are spending themselves into the ground so they lean on the US to be World Police. Oligarchs protecting oligarchs, that is all.
And see, we can discredit everybody who claims this will be yet another "war for oil". "War for hydrocarbons" just doesn't have the same ring to it. There's no appetite for a "war for energy" because then people would point out that we have many safe ways of producing all the energy we need already (but the corporate arms dealers don't much care for those).
some are engineered by the shady machinery of high-profile congressional campaigns
yet I'm failing to think of even one example of a viral meme that fits into that category. I mean, yeah, trigger words for government funding and all that, but even one?
If somebody wants to tell me that Nanci Pelosi's people came up with Doge, OK, fine, I'd believe it, but I've never heard any such insinuations.
Why does the FBI get involved? is it because the events span multiple states, or because the banks have so much clout? If this had happened to google or microsoft, for example, would the FBI get involved?
The FBI will exercise its power whenever it can, but almost always only if oligarchs are involved. Sure, they can't avoid the bad PR of ignoring a kidnapping, but if Grandma's money gets stolen because her paypal account is hacked, then don't expect her to get any help - only the institutions that are politically connected yet could afford their own investigation get that kind of help (while Grandma is essentially helpless). They'll excuse it by saying "oh, we can only help if the dollar amount exceeds $X because we have limited resources" but what that really means is they only help rich enough people, who (shocker) also tend to be the ones capable of making campaign donations. The help is means-tested, but not in the way one might expect.
In various roles I've heard from local chiefs of police who are trying to help out various citizens, just because there is no other option for them. It's not uniform at all, but investigating online crimes is not what those guys have training for.
If somebody here has had FBI help for small-dollar crimes where that was their only option, then I'd love to hear counterexamples.
Must be "state" actor APT! But who? China? Russia? Who is US government/media currently demagoguing against? Maximum fear factor achieved!
They forgot North Korea this time - must be an off-cycle.
You didn't need to go AC on this - we're all thinking the same thing. Are they just getting so much worse at the propaganda or are we finally wisening up?
I thought everyone knew this, or were able to google it especially if they are able to upload something like DDWRT to their router. Perhaps I had too much faith.
especially in AT&T if nobody he's ever spoken with about the issue knew enough to mention encapsulation. It doesn't sound like he's a dope, just possibly missed this factor. Somebody there could have simply asked him, "are you counting the overhead of PPPoE and ATM?" and then his post may have been entirely different, if it even existed at all.
With millions of home users and thousands of techs, the onus should not be on the customer base to understand how the vendor's product works internally.
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well except two of the boards had issues after 6 months
Yeah, if you like the MSI, order two so you have a spare on hand. That's been my unfortunate experience. Found ASRock after those experiences and haven't looked back.
"We don't support Linux, use windows"
Because Linux users are a pain in the ass.
You can find a bugzilla from about five years back where I had a problem with the built-in NIC on an ASUS mobo corrupting memory. Several others had the same problem on the same series of boards, and we were exchanging notes and working together on the bugzilla. Initially ASUS was helpful and looped in Atheros. But once we had a clear pattern (I mean a pattern of bit inversions in the hex dump), both went radio-silent.
I mean, what were they going to do, recall all the motherboards in that line just because they were no good? My time was worth more than the $90 for the mobo but we figured initially that its was a Linux driver bug and were trying to get to the bottom of it.
Anyway, had to rip it out and replace it (no slots left for another NIC in that application). Went to MSI ("oooh, jap caps") but those toasted (literally, burn marks on the mobo) quickly, found ASRock and haven't looked back.
I have an ASRock Z97 Extreme 4 in my cart at Amazon. Now don't you guys go buying them all before I put in the order on Friday. ;)
Do you ever feel responsible or bad for all the lives 4chan have ruined?
I mean there's a lot of anons that have a very unhealthy relationship to their favourite board and spends most of their waking time posting.
You're assuming the premise that these posters would have had normal, healthy lives if they didn't spend all their time on 4chan. If we know they engage in unhealthy mental behavior by spending all of their time on 4chan, then it's not a stretch to posit that they may have otherwise been involved in crime, drugs, or other self-destructive behaviours. That 4chan is a detriment in these cases is far from proven, and reason raises the possibility of an opposite effect.
Not sure why someone chose to make ten torrents out of the leak
Maybe that makes it easier to do traffic correlation on Tor.
They're against addiction, and they're against recreational drug use. Agree or disagree, why not take them at their word?
Because the evidence is all to the contrary.
Portugal ran the biggest experiment - 8 million people - and upon legalization, their drug use fell in half. The UK experienced the same thing in the reverse direction upon criminalization of e.g. heroin. The result is consistent with rational views of human incentives as well, so no logical surprises.
People who are pro- drug criminalization are for increased addiction rates. That's what reason predicts and that's what the empirical results are.
Whether or not these people are rational is immaterial to the consequences of their actions. We shall not give them a "pass" on "good intentions" if they lead us down the Road to Hell. The JAMA research suggests they're responsible for a minimum of one 9/11-scale effect every year.
It's like there's some kind of morality subtext that's really "pro pain" and opposed to feeling better
Yes, that's exactly right - Puritanism is a terribly destructive mindframe and thoroughly-ingrained in American culture.
Three things:
1) there a slight chance that these patients could have some fun or pleasure on these drugs. That's reason enough to put a foot down on society.
2) suffering is a virtue. God will lessen the suffering of those who are themselves virtuous, but for the same reason people whip and crucify themselves "for God", those suffering horribly from disease should not be brought from that blessing.
3) people with these afflictions may deserve them.
and those who profit handsomely from such ugly undercurrents in society are all too happy to exploit them for wealth and power.
c.f. A Renegade History of the United States for more on this. The author was fired from a university professorship for publishing such "radical" views on the failures of Puritanism.
people need to get out and start protesting and getting people on ballots to oust the cronies.
sorry, but that's the strategy which has been employed for the past two hundred years. The very best that could be said for it is that it has slowed the decline into totalitarianism. Even that is hard to prove.
I suggest a new strategy, Artoo.
I was just looking at that one a few hours ago (need to replace my desktop ... Mozilla apps are pigs with high core-affinity).
I decided against it because it has many fewer of the new instructions than the 4790K, slower clock, and almost double the TDP (and I prefer quiet/low power).
Obviously for highly parallel tasks that can fit nicely in the 5820K's bigger cache, it will win handily. I'd love to see an ffmpeg coding shoot-out, but I'm concerned that the 5820K's disabled PCIe lanes might hamper other system performance (vs. e.g. the 5830K).
If anybody here has an ASRock Z97 mobo that they love, I'd like to hear about it.
Look, I'm all for getting as much Zmapp to patients as is possible. I think a lot of people are agreement on this.
But we also need to do something about the effed up process of the approval of drugs and vaccines for these deadly diseases.
I'm thinking specifically about the malaria vaccine that has been known to be effective since '96/'97, but which has been held up for extended testing trials by (IIRC) the British drug regulators, who again put a hold on it this spring because it might not be entirely effective in newborn infants.
Meanwhile two million children are dying every year from malaria. This is a really, really, really, screwed up situation, and we have an ethical obligation to do what we can to put an end to these processes.
Even if the latest delay is "only" three months, that's a half million kids or so. It's unconscionable how poor the risk management analysis is - the perfect can be the very, very deadly enemy of the good. And so can drug-agency bureaucrats.
I personally got in it because I like the idea of solving problems, rather than taking care of them for a short while.
Just don't mistake any of the trades for not being problem-solving professions. Laying out a plumbing stack, electrical plan, etc. and making it work seamlessly (err... perfectly), or welding together a skyscraper are very valid and worthy problem solving engagements. Same with shoeing a horse from rods of iron. You just get to move more in these jobs.
I'd love to hear from somebody who feels that writing a finance report module is more worthy an endeavour than building a house for a family. I'm not even confident that it could be proven to be a better productivity enhancer on a macro level as your report module will be thrown away in a few years, but that house will be there for a century.
End every punishment doled out by the government without a trial by jury.
Hey, but 93% of prosecutions end in plea bargains; we could not have nearly so many codified crimes and extensive prison systems if every person received a trial by a jury of his peers!
You monster - those prison guards have families to feed!
Because you can't have the government competing with them in an area that they might, someday, begin to consider serving.
Yeah, so ... don't let them hear this too loudly ... one way to get Comcast into a town (where that's the only neighboring monopoly) is to lay out plans on paper to have a market competitor build out a WISP to serve the town. It doesn't even have to be a great-coverage plan and you don't have to have affordable backhaul, but have some public hearings and make sure the papers cover it thoroughly - Comcast will be along shortly to talk to the town administrators about pulling cable, on their dime.
I've even seen this happen in sequence, from town to town.
It's long past time that federal judges start jailing these bureaucrats for contempt for not answering simple questions about the no-fly list.
Your mistake is assuming that the judges are interested in rule of law and justice, rather than perpetuation of the power of the State, and by extension their cushy jobs, pensions, and really nice cars and houses. When the first excuses the latter, you'll find synchronicity, but not by the converse. Otherwise a simple constitutional challenge would not be thrown out in deference to statute in 99.3% of cases.
You're probably thinking of Jedi, not Federal Judges. *Big* difference (and this is why we can't have nice things).
Billions spent, law abiding people treated like criminals without due process
And where exactly do you think it's spelled out plainly that the government may not deprive you of liberty without due process of law?
Is there something relevant in 2014 that says this? And by relevant, I mean something that the People are willing to fight to protect?
Hey, it says right in TFS "lobbyists, paid-for politicians, and lawsuits" - what part of the Free Market doesn't have "lobbyists, paid-for politicians, and lawsuits"?
Can't you see how this is a problem with voluntary trade and not fascism?
The truth is that infrastructure just isn't that conducive to competition.
Heh, just ten years ago I heard people saying that - shortly before Comcast offered phone service and before Verizon offered TV service. Both cable TV and telephone were "natural monopolies" before they weren't. To offer that Verizon had to replace their entire cable plant and Comcast had to replace much of it. What they didn't have to do was go through an extremely expensive political and regulatory process to get access to pole space (in the "public right of way").
Who'd want 3 different water/sewer systems connected to their house?
When the first two are charging $1000/mo for water and the third offers it for $50 a month, then the cost of laying the new piping can be amortized over a short enough time period that either customers or investors are willing to put up the money for the time-value return of the subscribers' rates.
It's exactly the same calculation for anything anybody calls a 'natural monopoly'. Absent an interfering government, the money flows to the best service provider.
It might even have a thin enough atmosphere to not completely crush a human.
If the gravity isn't too high, we can engineer around all the rest. Ought to be just fine for bots if the solder doesn't flow at its temps. A giant pot of natural resources at 11LY is very exciting for colonials!
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/foundation/
If only they would allow directed donations. I'd gladly donate a hundred bucks towards the Electrolysis project but more likely my money would go towards FirefoxOS (ugh).
Im not 100% clear why we wouldnt want to get involved here, if ever there were a time to get involved.
Because of natural gas interests to benefit Europe, naturally. European countries are spending themselves into the ground so they lean on the US to be World Police. Oligarchs protecting oligarchs, that is all.
And see, we can discredit everybody who claims this will be yet another "war for oil". "War for hydrocarbons" just doesn't have the same ring to it. There's no appetite for a "war for energy" because then people would point out that we have many safe ways of producing all the energy we need already (but the corporate arms dealers don't much care for those).
Google paid the [legal] protection money for its affiliates, and the racket still smashed in the windows of the affiliates' shops.
Any two-bit thug can tell you how that works out.
I have to assume the wisc.edu folks know this and somebody gummed up the headlines along the way.
The odd part of this story is when it says:
some are engineered by the shady machinery of high-profile congressional campaigns
yet I'm failing to think of even one example of a viral meme that fits into that category. I mean, yeah, trigger words for government funding and all that, but even one?
If somebody wants to tell me that Nanci Pelosi's people came up with Doge, OK, fine, I'd believe it, but I've never heard any such insinuations.
Why does the FBI get involved? is it because the events span multiple states, or because the banks have so much clout? If this had happened to google or microsoft, for example, would the FBI get involved?
The FBI will exercise its power whenever it can, but almost always only if oligarchs are involved. Sure, they can't avoid the bad PR of ignoring a kidnapping, but if Grandma's money gets stolen because her paypal account is hacked, then don't expect her to get any help - only the institutions that are politically connected yet could afford their own investigation get that kind of help (while Grandma is essentially helpless). They'll excuse it by saying "oh, we can only help if the dollar amount exceeds $X because we have limited resources" but what that really means is they only help rich enough people, who (shocker) also tend to be the ones capable of making campaign donations. The help is means-tested, but not in the way one might expect.
In various roles I've heard from local chiefs of police who are trying to help out various citizens, just because there is no other option for them. It's not uniform at all, but investigating online crimes is not what those guys have training for.
If somebody here has had FBI help for small-dollar crimes where that was their only option, then I'd love to hear counterexamples.
Must be "state" actor APT! But who? China? Russia? Who is US government/media currently demagoguing against? Maximum fear factor achieved!
They forgot North Korea this time - must be an off-cycle.
You didn't need to go AC on this - we're all thinking the same thing. Are they just getting so much worse at the propaganda or are we finally wisening up?
I thought everyone knew this, or were able to google it especially if they are able to upload something like DDWRT to their router. Perhaps I had too much faith.
especially in AT&T if nobody he's ever spoken with about the issue knew enough to mention encapsulation. It doesn't sound like he's a dope, just possibly missed this factor. Somebody there could have simply asked him, "are you counting the overhead of PPPoE and ATM?" and then his post may have been entirely different, if it even existed at all.
With millions of home users and thousands of techs, the onus should not be on the customer base to understand how the vendor's product works internally.