Unfortunately the current mob in (sort of ) charge here are right up the illiberal-fuck brigade's arse.
When it was recently demonstrated that the new national travelcard is broken (Mifare) the response was a typical mixture of outrage, damming everybody as criminal, and refusing to accept that people with science degrees are a darn sight smarter than the bunch of PR/MBA wankers who fell for the Mifare sales spin.
You have used our copyrighted phrase '2012', thereby destroying the branding of the British Olympics. You owe us 12Bn poonds. We look forward to recieving your remittance by return. - IOC IP enforcement department.
Perhaps, but have you given thought to the idea that these texts may just contain true wisdom that could benefit even an unbeliever, rather than simply trying to convert you to their religion?
Very true indeed, I am well aware that there are many such tracts, in both religious and secular works, that provide valuable insight into how we can live. Although I doubt if this was the prime motivation of the very devout fellows who gave me the books (one of whom also left a copy of 'The Watchtower' on my desk every time it was published, a surprising intellectual read..)
All ultimately in vain, I still prefer to believe in people rather than god.
If you've ever listened to the Rick Mayal, Adrian Edmonton, Nigel Planer 'Bad News' faux spinal-tap album.. they have a hysterical discussion about this.
'That Maggie thatcher, she's a cult, in fact the whole Tory party are a bunch of cults... and the more left wing of them are wet cults!'
I nearly swallowed my toke I was laughing so hard (this was in the late 80's).
I fail to see how CoS is any more bizarre than Christianity.
At a 'technical' level you are right, the bible is no less crackpot than the scientology 'technology'.
One difference is that a lot of the various testaments have a good historical basis. For Instance I have no doubt about the existence of Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha etc.. they really existed! - Whether they were the son of god/prophet of god/being of divine light/etc is another question.. I believe they were just charismatic good people who others naturally followed. None of them seem particularly evil; that comes from those who followed them and wanted to assume that power over others for their own.
The difference is in attitude, reputable religions want to spread the word. eg. I have a bible, a translation of the qur'an, and other texts; all of which were given to me for free by believers who genuinely believe that by reading the words I'll become converted.
Compare and Contrast that to how Scientology spreads it's word...
Even the nastiest promoters of mainstream religion (the religious right, jihadists, etc.) are very open about their beliefs. Unfortunately their methods are often similar in terms of infiltrating institutions and crushing dissent.
SP3 actually improved my old thinkpad. The XP copy on it was really struggling after years of being used as the 'windows toy'. No media (my bad) so I've never reinstalled it. I allowed SP3 on with some trepidation, but the end result is that the machine is a darned sight more spry (fast and responsive) than it was before. I think the installer basically did a good job of repairing the OS while patching it.
I was pretty surprised.. it's pretty rare that anything from Redmond makes me feel that it's an improvement..
No. They'll get my FreeBSD box, fail to understand it, probably reformat the RAID drives trying to run a 'disk checker' on them. Then use this as evidence of my wrongoing.
"He had a 'so called' open computer, that no 'normal' person can understand, breaking all Microsoft's standards and patents. It's made of Demons! burn the TERRORIST!!!"
Amen, And we need to evangalise this too. It's something people can easily grasp as being wrong and dangerous.
I found it very easy to explain to a colleague who's initial reaction was 'so what, it's just ads.' That once the advertisers are paying the ISP directly, they won't be paying the website operators. Out goes all the non-corporate content, ie. most of the good stuff..
They themselves then worked out that once changing ads becomes common, inserting extra ads will follow, and finally other content will be changed.
Just a bit spikey towards the 'the innocent have nothing to fear' mob at the moment, then did an ass-hat and assumed your were with them, or trolling from the same line. apologies.
If you accept a caution, you are actually admitting guilt. Of course, and a desire to admit your guilt is the only reason why people 'accept' a caution.
I think you really meant to say:
If you freely accept a caution while under no duress at all, you are actually admitting guilt.
Does Judaism have any equivalent of the 'yea; until the 7th generation' stuff in Christianity? (I hope not, I've always been surprised that such a peaceable religion has produced so much killing).
In answer to your question; Why not? If my Grandmas wedding ring was found, should my Mum not claim it back, after all somebody else has been wearing it for the 40 years since it was stolen? Or should museums that have art stolen from jews not have to hand them back, despite the fact that they have been resident on their walls since they were looted?
Restitution is always an option, at some point in the future Israel will discover this applies to everybody, not just Europeans.
Not a lot I can say really, all you do is insult. This is because you know you have no answers apart from force, and violence begets violence. No peace can come while such attitudes prevail, it's very sad. As are you.
Woosh! Buried in the article, and shuffled into other articles. In particular his farcical attempts to pretend others had no input to the creation of Wikipedia. It's not this laughing-stock of a showman who worries me though, it's the muppet uber-wikipedians who mindlessly humour and support him. They're scary.
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Unfortunately the current mob in (sort of ) charge here are right up the illiberal-fuck brigade's arse.
When it was recently demonstrated that the new national travelcard is broken (Mifare) the response was a typical mixture of outrage, damming everybody as criminal, and refusing to accept that people with science degrees are a darn sight smarter than the bunch of PR/MBA wankers who fell for the Mifare sales spin.
Hello,
You have used our copyrighted phrase '2012', thereby destroying the branding of the British Olympics. You owe us 12Bn poonds.
We look forward to recieving your remittance by return.
- IOC IP enforcement department.
Perhaps, but have you given thought to the idea that these texts may just contain true wisdom that could benefit even an unbeliever, rather than simply trying to convert you to their religion?
Very true indeed, I am well aware that there are many such tracts, in both religious and secular works, that provide valuable insight into how we can live. Although I doubt if this was the prime motivation of the very devout fellows who gave me the books (one of whom also left a copy of 'The Watchtower' on my desk every time it was published, a surprising intellectual read..)
All ultimately in vain, I still prefer to believe in people rather than god.
My personal favourite is desiderata ('go placidly ' etc..), which is so good that religion has tried to claim it as it's own..
http://www.snopes.com/language/document/desiderata.asp
If you've ever listened to the Rick Mayal, Adrian Edmonton, Nigel Planer 'Bad News' faux spinal-tap album.. they have a hysterical discussion about this.
'That Maggie thatcher, she's a cult, in fact the whole Tory party are a bunch of cults... and the more left wing of them are wet cults!'
I nearly swallowed my toke I was laughing so hard (this was in the late 80's).
Would this still be tagged censorship if it were the Conservative Party instead of Scientology?
You must be new round here..
The answer to your question is: Yes, it would.
This is undoubtedly one of the most insightful things I have ever read, not just on /. but anywhere!
Thankyou.
I fail to see how CoS is any more bizarre than Christianity.
At a 'technical' level you are right, the bible is no less crackpot than the scientology 'technology'.
One difference is that a lot of the various testaments have a good historical basis. For Instance I have no doubt about the existence of Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha etc.. they really existed! - Whether they were the son of god/prophet of god/being of divine light/etc is another question.. I believe they were just charismatic good people who others naturally followed. None of them seem particularly evil; that comes from those who followed them and wanted to assume that power over others for their own.
The difference is in attitude, reputable religions want to spread the word. eg. I have a bible, a translation of the qur'an, and other texts; all of which were given to me for free by believers who genuinely believe that by reading the words I'll become converted.
Compare and Contrast that to how Scientology spreads it's word...
Even the nastiest promoters of mainstream religion (the religious right, jihadists, etc.) are very open about their beliefs. Unfortunately their methods are often similar in terms of infiltrating institutions and crushing dissent.
At the risk of getting flamed to hell (this is /.)
SP3 actually improved my old thinkpad. The XP copy on it was really struggling after years of being used as the 'windows toy'. No media (my bad) so I've never reinstalled it. I allowed SP3 on with some trepidation, but the end result is that the machine is a darned sight more spry (fast and responsive) than it was before. I think the installer basically did a good job of repairing the OS while patching it.
I was pretty surprised.. it's pretty rare that anything from Redmond makes me feel that it's an improvement..
What, you mean, like when the original article mentions anti-tust law, or somesuch?
No.
They'll get my FreeBSD box, fail to understand it, probably reformat the RAID drives trying to run a 'disk checker' on them. Then use this as evidence of my wrongoing.
"He had a 'so called' open computer, that no 'normal' person can understand, breaking all Microsoft's standards and patents. It's made of Demons! burn the TERRORIST!!!"
Amen,
And we need to evangalise this too. It's something people can easily grasp as being wrong and dangerous.
I found it very easy to explain to a colleague who's initial reaction was 'so what, it's just ads.' That once the advertisers are paying the ISP directly, they won't be paying the website operators. Out goes all the non-corporate content, ie. most of the good stuff..
They themselves then worked out that once changing ads becomes common, inserting extra ads will follow, and finally other content will be changed.
Sorry, guess I should have read your journal :-)
Just a bit spikey towards the 'the innocent have nothing to fear' mob at the moment, then did an ass-hat and assumed your were with them, or trolling from the same line. apologies.
I think you really meant to say: If you freely accept a caution while under no duress at all, you are actually admitting guilt.
No, the criteria is simply being arrested (Theoretically because the policeman suspects you of involvement in a arrestable offence).
What happens next, charged/cautiond/released is irrelevant.
There is a mechanism to get the samples destroyed in 'exceptional circumstances'.. good luck with that.
No, my skill is that I see all the facts.
I'm glad I don't hate like you. And I'm proud to stand up to the violence you support.
Indeed; thats because two wrongs do not make a right.
Does Judaism have any equivalent of the 'yea; until the 7th generation' stuff in Christianity? (I hope not, I've always been surprised that such a peaceable religion has produced so much killing).
In answer to your question; Why not? If my Grandmas wedding ring was found, should my Mum not claim it back, after all somebody else has been wearing it for the 40 years since it was stolen? Or should museums that have art stolen from jews not have to hand them back, despite the fact that they have been resident on their walls since they were looted?
Restitution is always an option, at some point in the future Israel will discover this applies to everybody, not just Europeans.
Sigh, dream on.
Not a lot I can say really, all you do is insult. This is because you know you have no answers apart from force, and violence begets violence. No peace can come while such attitudes prevail, it's very sad. As are you.
I'm very well informed, thanks.
Israel invaded Gaza and the West bank, and has illegally occupied it ever since.
No amount of spin and pretending that you are the oppressed, and not the oppressor will change that, and history will record it as so.
PS: The behaviour of Israel is always informative; Simply count the bodies on both sides and see who is 'winning'.
Because you have now stolen from them and become a violent thief.
My mother brought me up correctly, two wrongs != a right.
They gave them back a shitload of land
If a thief steals something from me, and then gives me 75% of it back, should I be grateful then?
Woosh!
Buried in the article, and shuffled into other articles. In particular his farcical attempts to pretend others had no input to the creation of Wikipedia.
It's not this laughing-stock of a showman who worries me though, it's the muppet uber-wikipedians who mindlessly humour and support him. They're scary.
Actually I laughed, since it's too true.
PS: I do not remember being taught to use ALL CAPS in grammar to signify shouting..