US kills its citizens with for legally and morally dubious reasons, in a legally and morally dubious manner all the time. By most of the world's standards, denying widely available medical treatment to millions of sick people because they are poor, is well within this category, and is a far greater offense than executing one person, no matter for how nonsensical a reason. Not to say that US does not execute people when it shouldn't.
It's kinda funny - Iran is the one that started playing the game here by detaining the guy in the first place, yet your beef is with US and its allies.
Iran "started playing the game here" when it overthrown US-puppet government and established another one based on then-popular religion. While I agree that their religion and their government are extreme examples of shitheadedness, it's not up to US or Canada to mess with it any further, because both are just eager to re-establish the puppeteering, and the whole world knows it.
You're not the only Jew on this planet - what do others think?
Sane and honest ones (yes, we exist) agree with me.
Your being Jewish has no bearing on the validity of your argument.
Yes, it does!
Every time some rational discussion about WWII, Nazi, Holocaust, or, $deity forbids, Israel happens, some political or religious Jewish organization shouts everyone down and hammers it into everyone's heads that the only thing important is how Nazi killed Jews, and everything else is irrelevant. Nevermind that WWII was one of the most horrific events in human history, and Jews were merely a significant minority of people killed in it. As a Jewish person myself, and as a descendants of Jewish victims of Nazi, I have full moral right to call those people on their bullshit, even by their own ethnocentric rules.
Also, your argument was about sovereignty being all-important. It is not. If a sovereign state is executing its population because of their heritage, that is unacceptable and should be grounds for occupation.
It is unacceptable, but it is not a valid reason for invading a country and killing much more people than supposedly-evil government would ever dream of executing.
You are the first person in this thread who said anything about wiping anybody off the map.
The only reason US and it pseudo-allies now would now bother Iran, is to start a war against it, just like with Iraq. If anything, relationships deteriorated far enough that it would be the only way how Iran would interpret such "protests" by its sworn enemies.
So, if the Reich never attacked its neighbors, it would be perfectly okay for it to slaughter Jews within its own borders?
It would not be okay, but in the highly unrealistic scenario where it wouldn't, there would be still no WWII, and Europe would be missing few millions of German Jews instead of about 70 millions of WWII victims. I would prefer that scenario if it was possible, and I am Jewish.
There is this thing called fairness and justice that trumps sovereignty.
In the opinion of majority of the world population, myself included, US law, dominant ideologies, and actions of the most of its population, go against fairness and justice. And yet, most (also myself included) do not propose to wipe US off the map.
When Reich gassed its Jews,
I am Jewish, and Nazi killed most of my grandfather's family, so don't play this bullshit with me. It was never an issue what Germany did with its local Jews -- it attacked the rest of the Europe, killing people all over the place, Jewish and non-Jewish. WWII was never about Jews, and it certainly did not involve US (or USSR) invading Germany to "protect German Jews" or with some other bullshit "moral" pretense. German Nazi started a war of aggression, violating sovereignty of almost every European country, and some non-European ones. A failed attempt of genocide was merely a part of it, and it was not what caused other countries to fight Nazi -- in fact, Jews at the time were the most hated and discriminated against ethnicities across the whole Europe, and this is why so many locals happily participated in genocide in Nazi-conquered countries.
it was also doing it under its own duly enacted laws of a sovereign state - which didn't save them from Nuremberg later on. As it should be. As it will be.
While I agree with the spirit of Nuremberg trial, it was merely a kangaroo court by the victors over the government of the defeated country. If the war had a different outcome, such a trial would go into the opposite direction with far greater authority, because Nazi were all about imposing the will and demands of supposedly-superior race on the rest of mankind in the first place. Nothing of that kind is acceptable at the time of peace.
System Monitor from this package seems to work now (as opposed to the time of release when it didn't).
"User menu" still has a giant status icon that can not be removed and prevents panel height from being set to anything less than 30 pixels, workspace switcher does not highlight the current workspace/viewport, and there are mysterious crashes with compiz _and_ metacity. hp-systray does not appear on the panel unless manually killed and restarted after the panel shows up. Alt-Right click for some reason becomes Alt-Windows-Right click if Compiz is running. Panel transparency mode acts as if the background behind the panel is black.
No, Orwell was just obsessed with fear of Communists. Politicians used his works to distract people from absolutely everything else that was and is worth being afraid of.
System Monitor doesn't work. I am not going to start ANOTHER APPLICATION just to see that something I am working on, is growing in memory, started swapping out, and eats all time on three cores out of four.
There was a lot of complaining about the GNOME 1 -> 2 replacement too back in the day, but given some cycles, the rough corners were fixed and most people seemed to be happy. If you don't like being the guinea pig, wait a year or two.
No. GNOME 2 mostly annoyed people by removing options, introducing buggy software, and hardcoding Metacity, Nautilus and other crap. Once developers repented, and restored usable support for alternative window manager and file manager (I used Thunar in place of Nautilus) everything was fine. GNOME3 problems are not a matter of quality or accidental hardcoding, it's replacement of useful software with "designer" crap, with a promise to keep everything broken but the developers' favorite "do-everything-in-one-executable" hideous blob that is GNOME Shell.
Actually it is not. If you use any applications built for new GNOME, you have to remove old GNOME because the bastards kept the old names of everything but broken the backward compatibility. This is why Mate is full of goofy names.
Middle click in X is "Paste selected text". It's not the same as "Paste copied". One may call this unintuitive, but it's very useful, and has no equivalent in Windows or OSX interface, where the only ways to pass things between input windows are drag-and-drop, select-copy-paste and select-cut-paste sequences. This works for non-text objects, and very large chunks of text (so you won't be afraid of accidentally un-selecting them), but makes no sense for short strings.
Hold down Alt when you right click on the GNOME panel and you'll be very happy.
A lot of good will it do considering that applets don't work, and the logic of handling the _width_ of that bar is backward -- it is set automatically based on the size of a humongous icon in indicator.
Seriously, same stupid reason for development (Comic Sans was made for MS Bob, if anyone forgot), same attempt to achieve the look of a different and hard to imitate medium (comic book font on a 800x600 bitmap, phone UI on a multi-monitor desktop), same failure, same amount of suffering inflicted on the unsuspecting users.
Yeah, go, downmod the facts. You guys certainly shown me, USA #1!, USA #1!, USA #1!!!
No, hairyfeet, you are not a vampire, you are just a filthy Microsoft shill. Accept it, and maybe kill yourself or something.
s/descendants/descendant/
US kills its citizens with for legally and morally dubious reasons, in a legally and morally dubious manner all the time. By most of the world's standards, denying widely available medical treatment to millions of sick people because they are poor, is well within this category, and is a far greater offense than executing one person, no matter for how nonsensical a reason. Not to say that US does not execute people when it shouldn't.
It's kinda funny - Iran is the one that started playing the game here by detaining the guy in the first place, yet your beef is with US and its allies.
Iran "started playing the game here" when it overthrown US-puppet government and established another one based on then-popular religion. While I agree that their religion and their government are extreme examples of shitheadedness, it's not up to US or Canada to mess with it any further, because both are just eager to re-establish the puppeteering, and the whole world knows it.
You're not the only Jew on this planet - what do others think?
Sane and honest ones (yes, we exist) agree with me.
Your being Jewish has no bearing on the validity of your argument.
Yes, it does!
Every time some rational discussion about WWII, Nazi, Holocaust, or, $deity forbids, Israel happens, some political or religious Jewish organization shouts everyone down and hammers it into everyone's heads that the only thing important is how Nazi killed Jews, and everything else is irrelevant. Nevermind that WWII was one of the most horrific events in human history, and Jews were merely a significant minority of people killed in it. As a Jewish person myself, and as a descendants of Jewish victims of Nazi, I have full moral right to call those people on their bullshit, even by their own ethnocentric rules.
Also, your argument was about sovereignty being all-important. It is not. If a sovereign state is executing its population because of their heritage, that is unacceptable and should be grounds for occupation.
It is unacceptable, but it is not a valid reason for invading a country and killing much more people than supposedly-evil government would ever dream of executing.
You are the first person in this thread who said anything about wiping anybody off the map.
The only reason US and it pseudo-allies now would now bother Iran, is to start a war against it, just like with Iraq. If anything, relationships deteriorated far enough that it would be the only way how Iran would interpret such "protests" by its sworn enemies.
So, if the Reich never attacked its neighbors, it would be perfectly okay for it to slaughter Jews within its own borders?
It would not be okay, but in the highly unrealistic scenario where it wouldn't, there would be still no WWII, and Europe would be missing few millions of German Jews instead of about 70 millions of WWII victims. I would prefer that scenario if it was possible, and I am Jewish.
There is this thing called fairness and justice that trumps sovereignty.
In the opinion of majority of the world population, myself included, US law, dominant ideologies, and actions of the most of its population, go against fairness and justice. And yet, most (also myself included) do not propose to wipe US off the map.
When Reich gassed its Jews,
I am Jewish, and Nazi killed most of my grandfather's family, so don't play this bullshit with me. It was never an issue what Germany did with its local Jews -- it attacked the rest of the Europe, killing people all over the place, Jewish and non-Jewish. WWII was never about Jews, and it certainly did not involve US (or USSR) invading Germany to "protect German Jews" or with some other bullshit "moral" pretense. German Nazi started a war of aggression, violating sovereignty of almost every European country, and some non-European ones. A failed attempt of genocide was merely a part of it, and it was not what caused other countries to fight Nazi -- in fact, Jews at the time were the most hated and discriminated against ethnicities across the whole Europe, and this is why so many locals happily participated in genocide in Nazi-conquered countries.
it was also doing it under its own duly enacted laws of a sovereign state - which didn't save them from Nuremberg later on. As it should be. As it will be.
While I agree with the spirit of Nuremberg trial, it was merely a kangaroo court by the victors over the government of the defeated country. If the war had a different outcome, such a trial would go into the opposite direction with far greater authority, because Nazi were all about imposing the will and demands of supposedly-superior race on the rest of mankind in the first place. Nothing of that kind is acceptable at the time of peace.
Remember when information compartmentalization was the concern of 3 letter agencies and not part of the everyday life of the average citizen?
So was encryption. Of all things, this is the least deserving of complaining about.
There is a thing called sovereignty. If it didn't exist, world would be permanently at war.
Why not any other person who faces any kind of punishment that Canadian government or its US overlords believe to be unfair?
Christianity was started by Jesus Christ
lol
By number of victims, Stalin was by far the scummier one.
Stalin is responsible for about 2 million deaths. All higher "estimates" come from works of propaganda.
Employers love resumes in PDF.
Recruiters, the people who collect hundreds of resumes, strip contact information, and spam HR departments of all companies they know, hate PDFs.
How any of this is not derived from fear of Communists?
System Monitor from this package seems to work now (as opposed to the time of release when it didn't).
"User menu" still has a giant status icon that can not be removed and prevents panel height from being set to anything less than 30 pixels, workspace switcher does not highlight the current workspace/viewport, and there are mysterious crashes with compiz _and_ metacity. hp-systray does not appear on the panel unless manually killed and restarted after the panel shows up. Alt-Right click for some reason becomes Alt-Windows-Right click if Compiz is running. Panel transparency mode acts as if the background behind the panel is black.
It's still broken.
No, Orwell was just obsessed with fear of Communists. Politicians used his works to distract people from absolutely everything else that was and is worth being afraid of.
System Monitor doesn't work. I am not going to start ANOTHER APPLICATION just to see that something I am working on, is growing in memory, started swapping out, and eats all time on three cores out of four.
There was a lot of complaining about the GNOME 1 -> 2 replacement too back in the day, but given some cycles, the rough corners were fixed and most people seemed to be happy. If you don't like being the guinea pig, wait a year or two.
No. GNOME 2 mostly annoyed people by removing options, introducing buggy software, and hardcoding Metacity, Nautilus and other crap. Once developers repented, and restored usable support for alternative window manager and file manager (I used Thunar in place of Nautilus) everything was fine. GNOME3 problems are not a matter of quality or accidental hardcoding, it's replacement of useful software with "designer" crap, with a promise to keep everything broken but the developers' favorite "do-everything-in-one-executable" hideous blob that is GNOME Shell.
Then, it happened... My work pace got faster. What? Wait. Really? How is that possible.
Because I gave it an actual chance. Now I can't imagine not using it...
No, that's because you suck at doing your work to begin with.
I'm a programmer too. I run Eclipse maximized.
That's because you are an Eclipse programmer. I think, it's a mental disease, but it may be just some space alien culture.
Actually it is not. If you use any applications built for new GNOME, you have to remove old GNOME because the bastards kept the old names of everything but broken the backward compatibility. This is why Mate is full of goofy names.
Middle click in X is "Paste selected text". It's not the same as "Paste copied". One may call this unintuitive, but it's very useful, and has no equivalent in Windows or OSX interface, where the only ways to pass things between input windows are drag-and-drop, select-copy-paste and select-cut-paste sequences. This works for non-text objects, and very large chunks of text (so you won't be afraid of accidentally un-selecting them), but makes no sense for short strings.
Hold down Alt when you right click on the GNOME panel and you'll be very happy.
A lot of good will it do considering that applets don't work, and the logic of handling the _width_ of that bar is backward -- it is set automatically based on the size of a humongous icon in indicator.
Seriously, same stupid reason for development (Comic Sans was made for MS Bob, if anyone forgot), same attempt to achieve the look of a different and hard to imitate medium (comic book font on a 800x600 bitmap, phone UI on a multi-monitor desktop), same failure, same amount of suffering inflicted on the unsuspecting users.