Riiight - but who are these potential non-members? Its not like you can have half you development team be members, and the other half non-members.
And its not like there's a huge field when it comes to cell phone manufacturers. There's not thousands of different manufacturers, so google starts out with a de facto quasi-monopoly.
So even if a fork came along that was better, the companies can't use it.
No wonder Microsoft is afraid google will be the next Microsoft - they're using Microsofts' playbook.
Whether its enforceable or not isn't the issue - this opens up the door to litigation when he goes to another employer. This makes him:
less employable, even after the 6 months is up, since they can still sue and then try to find out when the actual "invention" took place
liable for all sorts of legal fees down the road even if he is 100% in the right
There are some things that are common sense. Signing a change of employment that imposes more restrictions and liability, w/o increased compensation, especially when there's a shortage of skilled IT workers, is dumb.
Washington - A speeding, out-of-control car driven by a naked man hit and killed a pedestrian and collided with another vehicle before finally coming to a stop, Washington authorities said Thursday.
The driver, Donald Kerr, of Washington, was pulled out of the car by police following the 10:50 a.m. Wednesday incident, said William Smith Jr., a spokesman for the Washington district attorney's office.
The Washington Daily News reported family members said Kerr had been acting strangely and shouted, "The demons are coming! The demons are trying to get (me)!" shortly before driving off in the car... developing story
> "Which means Mozilla could consider a third evil and join the nasty capitalist system by figuring out exactly what value they are providing to their customers, and charging for it. Instead of trying to figure out for which rich aristrocrat (e.g. Google or MS) they want to be the bought mistress."
When the competition is giving their browser away for free, and its the default in the near-monopoly OS, charging for it isn't a realistic option.
Besides, better to be "owned" for $50 million a year, than p0wned by the competition, which is what would happen if they went to a pay-for model.
Are you going to send Google a C & D as well? After all, googling for "Donald Kerr sex sheep" returns this thread as the #1 hit. (Its also #1 for Donald Kerr naked aliens", "Donald Kerr public washroom", and #1 and #2 for "Donald Kerr botnet").
"Anyone that's typed in their name on Google understands that," said Kerr."
Great! We should give Kerr a dose of his own medicine by posting about how "Donald Kerr likes having sex with a sheep", "Donald Kerr was arrested for soliciting sex in a public washroom", "Donald Kerr was indicted for embezzling $5 million dollars", "Donald Kerr was convicted of sexually assaulting an 82-year-old woman after tazering her", "Donald Kerr helped funnel funds to Al-Quaida", "Donald Kerr was found wandering naked in a local park, claiming to have been abducted by aliens, who then probed his body", "Donald Kerr is a vocal proponent of scientology", "Donald Kerr is president of the Washington Brittney Speares fan club", "Donald Kerr controls a bot-net of 250,000 PCs", "Donald Kerr accepted 'gifts' of $4.5m from Microsoft", "Donald Kerr wants to track people via bluetooth".
After all, Google is now a "good source" for Donald Kerr.
(Note to the humour-impaired - the above is fair comment satire directed at a public officials' political policy statements, and in no way is an endorsement of Mr. Kerr's positions on privacy OR sex with a sheep)
dum, dum, dum, another FUD bites the dust.
dum, dum, dum, another FUD bites the dust.
And another one gone, and another one gone,
another FUD bites the dust
Hey, I'm gonna see it on youtube
another FUD bites the dust
How do you think OpenDoc Foundations gonna get along
When the M$ bux are gone?
You got all the FUD that they could give,
And kicked them out when you were done.
Are you happy? Are you satisfied?
How long can M$ stand the heat?
Out of Redmond, the chairs do fly,
To the sound of the FUD beat
[chorus]
dum, dum, dum, another FUD bites the dust.
dum, dum, dum, another FUD bites the dust.
And another one gone, and another one gone,
another FUD bites the dust
Hey, I'm gonna see it on youtube
another FUD bites the dust
The Jason Michael Downey sentence has been set as follows:
1. Prison term: The defendant is hereby committed to the custody of the United States Bureau of Prisons to be imprisoned for a total term of: 12 months and one (1) day.
2. Probation term: 3 years, no computer access without prior permission, and 150 hours of community service.
If it scales linearly, they guy could be looking at more than 30 years. Seems to me that there are dual standards for white-collar crime. Enron's Kenneth Lay was only looking at 20 to 30 years max.
"while all the other kids were put through a military program, whether or not they wanted to."
Several countries have compulsory military training - Albania, Algeria, Angola, Bhutan, Bolivia, Brazil, Burma, China, Cuba, Finland, Germany, Greece, Israel, Italy (until 2004), Korea (North and South), Kuwait, Libya, Moldova, Russia, Seychelles, Singapore, Switzerland, Thailand, Turkey.
Then there are the countries, like the US, that have "economic conscription" - with recruiters targeting impoverished communities to meet their quotas.
"I didn't say there was anything wrong with that. I said it would be unfeasible to remove ads altogether."
The ads ARE being removed altogether... even old VCRs had auto-skip for ads. The problem with the ad industry is that they don't realize that their days are numbered - we can pick and choose who we want advertising to us, and the medium via which that communication takes place. TV? Just record the show, then hit auto-slip, for the 10 hours a year I even bother to watch TV. The net? All sorts of blocking software. Newspapers? Gee, I only read them now when I'm at a restaurant waiting for someone. The junk that come in the mail? Recycled, unread.
Companies are going to have to do better, by creating real news, for real improvements in products, not fake *buzz*.
According to the article, this jerk got $19,000 for dumping adware on more than 150,000 pcs.
He also encouraged minors to act as go-betweens:
At one point, according to the plea agreement, a conspirator named "Adam" expressed concern about stealing money. Schiefer responded by reminding Adam that he was not yet 18 and should "quit being a bitch and claim it
Obviously he had more than one kid "working" for him. He probably agreed to the plea-bargain because otherwise he'd be facing total possible time of several hundred years.
However, he won't be hired by anyone in the computer field after this - what he did was a simple con, no "computer wizardry" required. Hans Reiser would have more chance after a murder conviction.
>"My guess? Direct downloads supported by 'channels' that serve up the first few episodes of random series to get people interested. Different series will aim at very niche markets. You really don't need a very large percentage of the population to support a TV series. Roughly 200,000 people (which is nothing when your potential audience is everyone worldwide) paying up $2-$3 (aka pocket change) per episode and you have a reliable budget of a half million per. You can make some damn fine television for $500,000 an episode."
What you just described is known as trial-ware (aka crippleware, adware, etc). Remember all those shareware and demo programs that "if only a small percentage of potential buyers pay for it, we'll be rich"? All those game demos - so many, that nobody ever paid for anything, because there were too many demos around. Play one for an hour, get bored, play another for 15 minutes, get bored,...
"Say right now cable companies get $200 per person per month, with the amount you pay plus the amount they receive for ads."
Cable companies don't get the ad revenue for ads, except for shows they own, and they would get that anyway.
Digital recorders are now under $100.00, so you can just record your shows to a dvd-rw and skip over all the ads. Separate "ads" are "sooo lasssst cennnntuuury!"
"Google Adsense and beer commercials come to mind as examples of non-annoying ads."
FTFS (From the F*** Summary: "Distributors will need to deliver targeted, interactive advertising for a range of multimedia devices."
I do NOT want beer ads (or even text ads) on my cell phone under ANY conditions. SMS spam was bad enough!
Advertising that lies (and a lot of it lies) is one of the reasons consumers are so dumb nowadays - so-called "fruit drinks made with natural flavors" is a good example of this sort of crap.
I point out that cyanide is all-natural... just because it says "cranberry drink made with all-natural flavors" doesn't mean that it has any more "real cranberry" than a can of motor oil.
Oddly enough, I can't find the revised numbers you cite for the S70 at the government's fuel economy site. Same with the Accord.
Also, if you have a manual transmission, you can easily beat the epa mileage estimates. Automatics don't do as well, since you can't "lug" the engine, etc.
>"Do you buy stuff in the US? Then you are a US consumer, and by your assertion, clueless. Thanks for playing."
Nope, I'm not a US consumer. Look north, you know, one of those countries that's bigger than the US:-)
BTW: We have our share of clueless consumers as well, which is why it would have been better to state "Consumers are clueless", which I did further on in the thread.
... psst... I wasn't referring to tracking mileage - I was referring to bogus mileage estimates. you know - estimated miles per gallon your results may vary test simulates an ideal road with the car going downhill 4 midgets pushing and tires inflated to 120 psi to reduce rolling resistance all stops eliminated from route ambient temperature of 68 degrees F. engine previously warmed up to operating temperature consult your doctor if erection persists more than 48 hours.
Riiight - but who are these potential non-members? Its not like you can have half you development team be members, and the other half non-members.
And its not like there's a huge field when it comes to cell phone manufacturers. There's not thousands of different manufacturers, so google starts out with a de facto quasi-monopoly.
So even if a fork came along that was better, the companies can't use it.
No wonder Microsoft is afraid google will be the next Microsoft - they're using Microsofts' playbook.
Or maybe there was a big to-do for about 3 days ... then nothing ...
And they figured "Holy shit - we'd better pretend this is a big deal and the sheeple are still whining about it, otherwise we'll fade into obscurity!"
I mean really, did anyone care after the first week?
Sounds to me like they don't want anyone forking it.
This is not as bad as Tivo ... or is it?
Non-fragmentation my you-know-what.
> "That's NOT true! There are PLENTY of smart people, who are also closeted, self-loathing homosexuals - trolling for anonymous gay sex with minors."
Pat Robertson votes?
Guess you missed how the ubuntu-based linux pc sold out in one week at Wallyworld ...
There are some things that are common sense. Signing a change of employment that imposes more restrictions and liability, w/o increased compensation, especially when there's a shortage of skilled IT workers, is dumb.
You can read more about Donald Kerr's sex with sheep, as well as Donald Kerr caught on video drinking toilet water!, and Donald Kerr is Anna Nicole Smiths baby's daddy!
Theres also this latest Report: Car driven by naked man kills lawyer. Donald Kerr arrested!"
> "Which means Mozilla could consider a third evil and join the nasty capitalist system by figuring out exactly what value they are providing to their customers, and charging for it. Instead of trying to figure out for which rich aristrocrat (e.g. Google or MS) they want to be the bought mistress."
When the competition is giving their browser away for free, and its the default in the near-monopoly OS, charging for it isn't a realistic option.
Besides, better to be "owned" for $50 million a year, than p0wned by the competition, which is what would happen if they went to a pay-for model.
Are you going to send Google a C & D as well? After all, googling for "Donald Kerr sex sheep" returns this thread as the #1 hit. (Its also #1 for Donald Kerr naked aliens", "Donald Kerr public washroom", and #1 and #2 for "Donald Kerr botnet").
"Anyone that's typed in their name on Google understands that," said Kerr."
Great! We should give Kerr a dose of his own medicine by posting about how "Donald Kerr likes having sex with a sheep", "Donald Kerr was arrested for soliciting sex in a public washroom", "Donald Kerr was indicted for embezzling $5 million dollars", "Donald Kerr was convicted of sexually assaulting an 82-year-old woman after tazering her", "Donald Kerr helped funnel funds to Al-Quaida", "Donald Kerr was found wandering naked in a local park, claiming to have been abducted by aliens, who then probed his body", "Donald Kerr is a vocal proponent of scientology", "Donald Kerr is president of the Washington Brittney Speares fan club", "Donald Kerr controls a bot-net of 250,000 PCs", "Donald Kerr accepted 'gifts' of $4.5m from Microsoft", "Donald Kerr wants to track people via bluetooth".
After all, Google is now a "good source" for Donald Kerr.
(Note to the humour-impaired - the above is fair comment satire directed at a public officials' political policy statements, and in no way is an endorsement of Mr. Kerr's positions on privacy OR sex with a sheep)
[chorus]
dum, dum, dum, another FUD bites the dust.
dum, dum, dum, another FUD bites the dust.
And another one gone, and another one gone,
another FUD bites the dust
Hey, I'm gonna see it on youtube
another FUD bites the dust
How do you think OpenDoc Foundations gonna get along
When the M$ bux are gone?
You got all the FUD that they could give,
And kicked them out when you were done.
Are you happy? Are you satisfied?
How long can M$ stand the heat?
Out of Redmond, the chairs do fly,
To the sound of the FUD beat [chorus]
dum, dum, dum, another FUD bites the dust.
dum, dum, dum, another FUD bites the dust.
And another one gone, and another one gone,
another FUD bites the dust
Hey, I'm gonna see it on youtube
another FUD bites the dust
Interesting punishment for an 8,000-unit botnet:
If it scales linearly, they guy could be looking at more than 30 years. Seems to me that there are dual standards for white-collar crime. Enron's Kenneth Lay was only looking at 20 to 30 years max.
"while all the other kids were put through a military program, whether or not they wanted to."
Several countries have compulsory military training - Albania, Algeria, Angola, Bhutan, Bolivia, Brazil, Burma, China, Cuba, Finland, Germany, Greece, Israel, Italy (until 2004), Korea (North and South), Kuwait, Libya, Moldova, Russia, Seychelles, Singapore, Switzerland, Thailand, Turkey.
Then there are the countries, like the US, that have "economic conscription" - with recruiters targeting impoverished communities to meet their quotas.
He got 2 kids to "participate" because, since they were minors, they "probably" wouldn't risk criminal records.
Would they have done this if he hadn't encouraged them? Who do you think ratted him out in the end?
"I didn't say there was anything wrong with that. I said it would be unfeasible to remove ads altogether."
The ads ARE being removed altogether ... even old VCRs had auto-skip for ads. The problem with the ad industry is that they don't realize that their days are numbered - we can pick and choose who we want advertising to us, and the medium via which that communication takes place. TV? Just record the show, then hit auto-slip, for the 10 hours a year I even bother to watch TV. The net? All sorts of blocking software. Newspapers? Gee, I only read them now when I'm at a restaurant waiting for someone. The junk that come in the mail? Recycled, unread.
Companies are going to have to do better, by creating real news, for real improvements in products, not fake *buzz*.
According to the article, this jerk got $19,000 for dumping adware on more than 150,000 pcs.
He also encouraged minors to act as go-betweens:
Obviously he had more than one kid "working" for him. He probably agreed to the plea-bargain because otherwise he'd be facing total possible time of several hundred years.
However, he won't be hired by anyone in the computer field after this - what he did was a simple con, no "computer wizardry" required. Hans Reiser would have more chance after a murder conviction.
>"My guess? Direct downloads supported by 'channels' that serve up the first few episodes of random series to get people interested. Different series will aim at very niche markets. You really don't need a very large percentage of the population to support a TV series. Roughly 200,000 people (which is nothing when your potential audience is everyone worldwide) paying up $2-$3 (aka pocket change) per episode and you have a reliable budget of a half million per. You can make some damn fine television for $500,000 an episode."
What you just described is known as trial-ware (aka crippleware, adware, etc). Remember all those shareware and demo programs that "if only a small percentage of potential buyers pay for it, we'll be rich"? All those game demos - so many, that nobody ever paid for anything, because there were too many demos around. Play one for an hour, get bored, play another for 15 minutes, get bored, ...
"Say right now cable companies get $200 per person per month, with the amount you pay plus the amount they receive for ads."
Cable companies don't get the ad revenue for ads, except for shows they own, and they would get that anyway.
Digital recorders are now under $100.00, so you can just record your shows to a dvd-rw and skip over all the ads. Separate "ads" are "sooo lasssst cennnntuuury!"
FTFA :>"that cool "bippedy-bippedy-bippedy" sound it makes while searching."
> "I care enough to point out how stupid that mp3 sounds."
It sounds like a crank call from some 10-year-old.
Dark Helmet was right - "Evil will triumph because good is dumb." We now have proof that "Google is Evil" - they've automated the crank phone call.
"Google Adsense and beer commercials come to mind as examples of non-annoying ads."
FTFS (From the F*** Summary: "Distributors will need to deliver targeted, interactive advertising for a range of multimedia devices."
I do NOT want beer ads (or even text ads) on my cell phone under ANY conditions. SMS spam was bad enough!
Advertising that lies (and a lot of it lies) is one of the reasons consumers are so dumb nowadays - so-called "fruit drinks made with natural flavors" is a good example of this sort of crap.
I point out that cyanide is all-natural ... just because it says "cranberry drink made with all-natural flavors" doesn't mean that it has any more "real cranberry" than a can of motor oil.
Oddly enough, I can't find the revised numbers you cite for the S70 at the government's fuel economy site. Same with the Accord.
Also, if you have a manual transmission, you can easily beat the epa mileage estimates. Automatics don't do as well, since you can't "lug" the engine, etc.
Now there's a thought. Everyone who was lied to, class action status. Let the lawyers bleed them to death for every lie they tell.
>"Do you buy stuff in the US? Then you are a US consumer, and by your assertion, clueless. Thanks for playing."
Nope, I'm not a US consumer. Look north, you know, one of those countries that's bigger than the US :-)
BTW: We have our share of clueless consumers as well, which is why it would have been better to state "Consumers are clueless", which I did further on in the thread.