Alternative C# compilers have the potential to undermine rather than extend the MS monopoly, simply because they are an alternative source for a C# platform.
Precisely the way Samba has helped to undermine Microsoft's monopoly, by allowing IT guys to move their file servers to Linux while maintaining compatibility with existing workstations and desktop applications.
A lot of people write VBScript and ASP, and these people will be moving to C# because it's where Microsoft is leading them and they follow like sheep. If their C# applications run just as well on another platform, that's one less reason to stay on Windows.
But what about the alien threat that was presented in the Hollywood blockbusted Independence Day? Since alien's run MacOS-compatible systems and communicate using a protocol extactly similiar to our TCP/IP, this system, if put into place, would give them the last piece of the puzzle needed to blow up the White House! I urge Echostar to think of the children for Christ's sake!
Since nobody uses Macs anyway, we have nothing to worry about.
No one will pay for desktop linux. Why? Because people who pay for OSs are generally businesses, and businesses want productivity. There's just not enough of that in Linux desktop apps. If you're going to pay, you may as well pay for what's going to give you the most bang for your buck. And that's Windows.
WRONG. More and more businesses (and government agencies, and schools) are switching to Linux, precisely BECAUSE it gives them more bang for their buck. Yes, even on the desktop.
Besides, I bought Slackware, after I'd already downloaded and burned the ISO, because I appreciate that Patrick et al have done and I want to support them.
(Somehow, the quote reminds me of people who think that managers and lawyers are the important part of a company, and engineers and customer service are a nuisance to be minimized.)
Don't forget marketing; I've seen marketing trump legal.
I think I heard he only still owns like 4% of the company or something, and hasn't actually been involved for years.
I'm debating going to the Trans-Siberian Orchestra concert at the Rose Garden. I never go to concerts, and keep thinking I should. I think I'll go if I can find somebody to go with me.
Ask if you can waive the option to keep the number, if they'll quit charging you the fee. If they say no, complain to your PUC. If they say yes, then it's your choice.
And good idea about the wireless thing. If I could switch to a cell phone and keep the same phone number, I'd do it, except that I'm very happy with DSL, so I can't.
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Credit unions rock. I never pay fees for anything. They have extra free stuff too, like I can get free money orders, they have a notary public on staff if I need something notarized for free, and they finally fixed their online banking thing so it works properly in my browser (it used to have a Java applet menu that only worked on some browser/OS combinations). They also set it up so I can transfer money into my mom's account, but can't see her balance or transfer money out or anything (I'm paying rent while she's living elsewhere).
I bought a monthly bus pass from a vending machine near where I work, and used my debit card. The credit union called me to make sure I'd really made that transaction and my card hadn't been stolen or anything, since it seemed unusual and had been flagged by Visa. I can't imagine a bank actually making that kind of a call.
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*Cough* I live in New Hampshire, you insensitive clod!
Thank god there are still a couple states that don't have sales tax. I'm an Oregonian myself.
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My question, how does Visahave a right to determine what retailers charge their customers.
Can you say "oligopoly", boys and girls? Just like a monopoly, but instead of having just one company controlling everything, there's two or three, and they all set the same fees and policies and don't actively compete against each other.
You'll never hear an advertisement that Visa is better than Mastercard - just better than American Express. You'll never hear an advertisement that Mastercard is better than Visa either. In fact, I don't really remember Discover ads mentioning either Visa or Mastercard. Hmmm.
Exactly! That's why his idea doesn't work. It works for awhile, but then your address gets out, and then you're screwed. If you have multiple addresses for different purposes, you can manage them.
The e-mail address I used for eBay finally got added to a spam list, so I changed it, and now all that spam bounces. I don't have to worry about losing legitimate mail, because that address is only used by eBay and those involved in auctions I'm participating in (none currently).
However, the address I normally give out to people (I don't post it online anywhere, but I do use it as my return address when I send mail) gets several pieces of spam per day, presumably for the reasons you listed.
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Sure, blacklists aren't THE solution. They're one partial solution, that can help to reduce spam, and increase costs for spammers. Not enough to stop spam, but it does help.
Combine that with other solutions, and the combination will be enough to make a difference.
Stopping email from the Verio domains is going to cause more pain than it will help. It is only a matter of time until the spammers find some other vendor to help them send their ads.
Good! If the spammers find some other vendor, this means Verio will stop getting their money. This means Verio does not profit by disregarding their own AUP. This means Verio will (hopefully) be less likely to knowingly provide service to spammers in the future. That would mean that the next time the spammers need to find some other vendor, they'll have one less other vendor to choose from. Lather, rinse, repeat.
I pay $36/year for Spamcop. In addition to every feature I can think of (pop3, imap, webmail, forwarding, pop3 polling, configurable spam filtering, sender blacklist and whitelist, no ads) I ALSO get more convenient access to their kick-ass spam reporting tool.
Au contraire. Granted, the tides have shifted - four years ago the availability of Mac warez was simply AMAZING while getting Windows warez was a pain in the ass; it's now much easier to get Windows warez than it was, and increasingly more annoying to find good Mac warez. Still, there's a hell of a lot out there for the Mac, and 90% of all Windows software is CRAP.
Win2k at work is pretty much a given. Some of the internal Web sites require IE, and may or may not work with IE for Mac. We have one tool that requires IE on Windows; I'm sure it wouldn't work on Mac. I don't know if wine would work or not. I can't imagine the company deploying vmware on Linux (which still runs Windows) as an alternative to just running Windows.
At home, the reasons why I've been tempted to set up a Windows box are 1) support for cheap-ass hardware like a webcam I bought on sale, 2) apps like MySQLFront, 3) games like Counterstrike. So far, 1) I bought a different camera, and I'm hoping driver support for Linux and OSX improves, 2) I can use Microsoft's Remote Desktop client to connect to my friend's Windows box through our VPN, and run MySQLFront there, connecting back through the VPN to my SQL server, and 3) I'm just playing Warcraft III and a couple other games.
People who only get a handful of messages a day probably don't appeciate how important this is for people who receive two hundred messages per day (between work email, personal email, and various technical mailing lists). When you're getting that sort of email, you either become very aggressive about how you handle it, or your time disappears.
Well said. Most of mine is filtered into various folders, but I can't filter everything. I glance at my mail throughout the day, and if nothing about your subject line indicates the importance of the message, I'll be pretty annoyed.
Hmm, come to think of it, I think Spamcop might flag messages with blank subject lines as possible spam. I'm usually pretty careful about checking through everything before reporting it, but I might miss yours and report it anyway.
Last I checked, the BBC would be UPLOADING software to your machine. You would be the one downloading it. God I'm sick of people misusing that word.
Originally "download" meant transfer from a large mainframe to a small client, while "upload" meant transfer from a small client to a large mainframe - regardless of which end initiated the transfer.
However, since a mainframe wouldn't be likely to initiate a transfer, normally downloading = receiving, and uploading = sending. These became the new meanings of the words.
So yes, the meanings have changed, but understand that some people haven't caught on yet. Go easy on them.
Some subject lines I've received (and reported via Spamcop), if this gives you any idea:
Good news for phroggy Information phroggy Money for phroggy We open new site for you ! Phroggy !!! phroggy, Online Pharmacy now offers Gen*ric V*agra for $5.00 per 100MG dose Phroggy, we have new updates at Beauty Angels Tired of being broke? phroggy
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Right. And don't wash it. Then they won't want your help.
Alternative C# compilers have the potential to undermine rather than extend the MS monopoly, simply because they are an alternative source for a C# platform.
Precisely the way Samba has helped to undermine Microsoft's monopoly, by allowing IT guys to move their file servers to Linux while maintaining compatibility with existing workstations and desktop applications.
A lot of people write VBScript and ASP, and these people will be moving to C# because it's where Microsoft is leading them and they follow like sheep. If their C# applications run just as well on another platform, that's one less reason to stay on Windows.
But what about the alien threat that was presented in the Hollywood blockbusted Independence Day? Since alien's run MacOS-compatible systems and communicate using a protocol extactly similiar to our TCP/IP, this system, if put into place, would give them the last piece of the puzzle needed to blow up the White House! I urge Echostar to think of the children for Christ's sake!
Since nobody uses Macs anyway, we have nothing to worry about.
No one will pay for desktop linux. Why? Because people who pay for OSs are generally businesses, and businesses want productivity. There's just not enough of that in Linux desktop apps. If you're going to pay, you may as well pay for what's going to give you the most bang for your buck. And that's Windows.
WRONG. More and more businesses (and government agencies, and schools) are switching to Linux, precisely BECAUSE it gives them more bang for their buck. Yes, even on the desktop.
Besides, I bought Slackware, after I'd already downloaded and burned the ISO, because I appreciate that Patrick et al have done and I want to support them.
(Somehow, the quote reminds me of people who think that managers and lawyers are the important part of a company, and engineers and customer service are a nuisance to be minimized.)
Don't forget marketing; I've seen marketing trump legal.
(As if his part in M$ wasn't enough).
I think I heard he only still owns like 4% of the company or something, and hasn't actually been involved for years.
I'm debating going to the Trans-Siberian Orchestra concert at the Rose Garden. I never go to concerts, and keep thinking I should. I think I'll go if I can find somebody to go with me.
Ask if you can waive the option to keep the number, if they'll quit charging you the fee. If they say no, complain to your PUC. If they say yes, then it's your choice.
And good idea about the wireless thing. If I could switch to a cell phone and keep the same phone number, I'd do it, except that I'm very happy with DSL, so I can't.
Credit unions rock. I never pay fees for anything. They have extra free stuff too, like I can get free money orders, they have a notary public on staff if I need something notarized for free, and they finally fixed their online banking thing so it works properly in my browser (it used to have a Java applet menu that only worked on some browser/OS combinations). They also set it up so I can transfer money into my mom's account, but can't see her balance or transfer money out or anything (I'm paying rent while she's living elsewhere).
I bought a monthly bus pass from a vending machine near where I work, and used my debit card. The credit union called me to make sure I'd really made that transaction and my card hadn't been stolen or anything, since it seemed unusual and had been flagged by Visa. I can't imagine a bank actually making that kind of a call.
*Cough* I live in New Hampshire, you insensitive clod!
Thank god there are still a couple states that don't have sales tax. I'm an Oregonian myself.
My question, how does Visahave a right to determine what retailers charge their customers.
Can you say "oligopoly", boys and girls? Just like a monopoly, but instead of having just one company controlling everything, there's two or three, and they all set the same fees and policies and don't actively compete against each other.
You'll never hear an advertisement that Visa is better than Mastercard - just better than American Express. You'll never hear an advertisement that Mastercard is better than Visa either. In fact, I don't really remember Discover ads mentioning either Visa or Mastercard. Hmmm.
Exactly! That's why his idea doesn't work. It works for awhile, but then your address gets out, and then you're screwed. If you have multiple addresses for different purposes, you can manage them.
The e-mail address I used for eBay finally got added to a spam list, so I changed it, and now all that spam bounces. I don't have to worry about losing legitimate mail, because that address is only used by eBay and those involved in auctions I'm participating in (none currently).
However, the address I normally give out to people (I don't post it online anywhere, but I do use it as my return address when I send mail) gets several pieces of spam per day, presumably for the reasons you listed.
Sure, blacklists aren't THE solution. They're one partial solution, that can help to reduce spam, and increase costs for spammers. Not enough to stop spam, but it does help.
Combine that with other solutions, and the combination will be enough to make a difference.
Stopping email from the Verio domains is going to cause more pain than it will help. It is only a matter of time until the spammers find some other vendor to help them send their ads.
Good! If the spammers find some other vendor, this means Verio will stop getting their money. This means Verio does not profit by disregarding their own AUP. This means Verio will (hopefully) be less likely to knowingly provide service to spammers in the future. That would mean that the next time the spammers need to find some other vendor, they'll have one less other vendor to choose from. Lather, rinse, repeat.
I pay $36/year for Spamcop. In addition to every feature I can think of (pop3, imap, webmail, forwarding, pop3 polling, configurable spam filtering, sender blacklist and whitelist, no ads) I ALSO get more convenient access to their kick-ass spam reporting tool.
Cuz most of the warez out there is for Windoze. ;)
Au contraire. Granted, the tides have shifted - four years ago the availability of Mac warez was simply AMAZING while getting Windows warez was a pain in the ass; it's now much easier to get Windows warez than it was, and increasingly more annoying to find good Mac warez. Still, there's a hell of a lot out there for the Mac, and 90% of all Windows software is CRAP.
Are there porn viewers that use aalib? That'd be kinda neat.
MacOS X 10.2 includes a PPTP client. It's in the Internet Connect application.
:-)
Ah, neat, I didn't know that. I'll have to play with that then.
Win2k at work is pretty much a given. Some of the internal Web sites require IE, and may or may not work with IE for Mac. We have one tool that requires IE on Windows; I'm sure it wouldn't work on Mac. I don't know if wine would work or not. I can't imagine the company deploying vmware on Linux (which still runs Windows) as an alternative to just running Windows.
At home, the reasons why I've been tempted to set up a Windows box are 1) support for cheap-ass hardware like a webcam I bought on sale, 2) apps like MySQLFront, 3) games like Counterstrike. So far, 1) I bought a different camera, and I'm hoping driver support for Linux and OSX improves, 2) I can use Microsoft's Remote Desktop client to connect to my friend's Windows box through our VPN, and run MySQLFront there, connecting back through the VPN to my SQL server, and 3) I'm just playing Warcraft III and a couple other games.
To VPN into work, connect to source safe, upload code to the servers, run terminal services, connect to SQL Server 2000
FYI, there's a Remote Desktop (terminal services) client for Mac OS X, and I wouldn't be surprised if you can find a PPTP client.
People who only get a handful of messages a day probably don't appeciate how important this is for people who receive two hundred messages per day (between work email, personal email, and various technical mailing lists). When you're getting that sort of email, you either become very aggressive about how you handle it, or your time disappears.
Well said. Most of mine is filtered into various folders, but I can't filter everything. I glance at my mail throughout the day, and if nothing about your subject line indicates the importance of the message, I'll be pretty annoyed.
Hmm, come to think of it, I think Spamcop might flag messages with blank subject lines as possible spam. I'm usually pretty careful about checking through everything before reporting it, but I might miss yours and report it anyway.
Am I the only one who finds it more than a little ironic that their current draft page on Quality Assurance [w3.org] is all fscked up? :-)
Huh? You must be using a browser that doesn't support Internet standards. Mine does, so it looks fine to me. What are you using?
One law states that if there are 5 Native Americans (the law uses the term Indian but I will refrain from that), on your property...
If the law says Indians, you should say Indians - that word also applies to people from India.
This would also seem to suggest that Mozilla is immune, since they have their own JVM, yes?
Mozilla the JVM that's already installed on your system. Netscape 4.x (and earlier) has its own.
Last I checked, the BBC would be UPLOADING software to your machine. You would be the one downloading it. God I'm sick of people misusing that word.
Originally "download" meant transfer from a large mainframe to a small client, while "upload" meant transfer from a small client to a large mainframe - regardless of which end initiated the transfer.
However, since a mainframe wouldn't be likely to initiate a transfer, normally downloading = receiving, and uploading = sending. These became the new meanings of the words.
So yes, the meanings have changed, but understand that some people haven't caught on yet. Go easy on them.
What the hell is "fadden" ?
Some subject lines I've received (and reported via Spamcop), if this gives you any idea:
Good news for phroggy
Information phroggy
Money for phroggy
We open new site for you ! Phroggy !!!
phroggy, Online Pharmacy now offers Gen*ric V*agra for $5.00 per 100MG dose
Phroggy, we have new updates at Beauty Angels
Tired of being broke? phroggy