Actually I think the sony psone combo unit (the little white unit thats battery powered and comes with a 5 inch lcd) is sonys testing of the waters so to speak. If I hadn't wanted FFX so bad, I probably would of bought one of those. I mean think about the psone combo, its quasi handheld, it already has 600+ games and can also be plugged into a television. Damn cool gadget.
Alright now I can tell my kids that I saw the CmdrTaco propose to his women on slashdot. I know everything I'd like to say has already been said, so congrats and best wishes Malda.
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.Net is a package of sorts. In it your have your c# which is a rip off of java (just look at the syntax... yeah yeah i know runtime is different). Nothing new, just this time its legal. You have your compilers and runtimes for c# and api, just a new way of distributing microsoft software for more money. You have your passport thingy which is supposed to be this great big identification thing that works with all things microsoft... well thats just so you buy more microsoft stuff which equals more money for microsoft. Pretty much,.Net is a repackaging of old microsoft ideas but with a slicker name, and interface and on top of that its kind of legal this time. Nothing new, nothing to see here.
Its kind of funny... theres a quote from the simpsons xfiles episode where homer goes "Yeah and people don't believe me, we can just sell it to the fox network." and Bart follows up with "yeah they'll buy anthing". Haha... the sad thing is fox always cancels their best shows... the family guy is the best cartoon since simpsons and southpark. Hilariously random. Futurama was alright, I wasn't a big watcher... but alot of people swear by it. The critic was awesome, thank god ccentral picked up it on syndicate. The tick was alright... i watched one episode and it did make me laugh. Anyway, the point as if i had one... i think fox doesn't know whats good on its channel. They seem to be trying please all demographics except the 15-35 year old white male one, which lets be honest is definitly what adult cartoons are more aimed for. Its sad...
I think they should pay attention to whats going on with the file-sharing apps. They take down one and another pops up. How would they ever suspect to enforce this? Along with that, how can you patent a content delivery method like linking? Thats complete bullshit, this is even worse than that company that patented pausing tv 20 years ago. I'm really starting to get sick of this intellectual warfare. I had it explained to me by a upper-level IBM fellowship that pretty much the whole point of IP is have a weapon against your competitor, why else would they patent so many inane things. *sigh*... fuck...
My girl is weird. Everytime I tell her I'm a dork, shes goes "No baby, you're a geek." The funny thing is, she couldn't tell the difference between a computer and a toaster oven (yet, she probably could compile a kernel... )
Think about it, the growing power of the pc and its cheapness is allowing more and more people to run the best games on it, at $50 a piece. Along with that you have the ps2 which has sold some insane number like 18 million units (including one to me last week). I bought it for final fantasy X but decided I wanted to play it with my little brothers so went out and bought 3 more games. This is probably the first year that we've had 3 consoles that are all roughly equal in the minds of users so maybe the more of a choice has lead some people to check out details alittle more which I know once I got into hardware specs I couldn't help but buy one. Just wish the ps2 and xbox were alittle cheaper, but theres always the gamecube and computer games to cover that market. I suppose thats the biggest thing, its no longer you buy a system at $200 (the original consoles, nes, genesis, sega cd, saturn, ps1, 3do, super nes, etc) and thats it. Now you've got your super systems (xbox, ps2), your less pricey but still nice systems (gamecube, gameboy advance, psone combo) and with everyone owning a computer, your very low cost games (darkvault of camalot, soldier of fortune, wolfenstein, sims, etc). Definitly looks like a good time to be in the gaming industry with so many options.
The performance would probably be bad though... this would be a double emulation. Boot up a virtual machine that then boots a virtual amiga to run the OS. Seems kind of not worth it, may as well just set up the AmigaXL thing on its own partition.
Divide the map up into areas where you want all users to access the same things. Use a broadcast message to send mass updates to this. This cuts down individual client updates. Say there is an earthquake or something in the game. Broadcast this data to all those that affected in one big message. Java has features for this although I'm sure c# does also.
If you want to maximize your users, why not use java instead of c#. The syntax is really similar and the performance difference is negilable. On top of that, your users can run the app is solaris, linux, and windows. Along with that, you can build a client java app, so that users can just use IE, Mozilla or Netscape to play the game. My experience with network clients and users, is that they like to use what they're accustomed to. By embedding something into a browser you're cutting down some tech support and installation problems. The other deal is c# is not too tested and requireds special installations for Win 9x and 2000 because they don't come with it. Everybody doesn't have XP yet. I've implemented some stuff like this in java before and it works very nicely due to java's nice network libraries.
If they take over can I have my computer's job? It pretty much just sits there and plays video games against me. Hmm... I wanna be the video game ai, sweet.
Even if they did't do it persay, I'm sure they did something... otherwise a claim like this is just plain stupid. I have a feeling what they probably did is take the cow stem-cells and create kidney cells out of them... not a full kidney. Of course reporting that to the media really isn't all that big of a deal considering that the whole point of stem-cells is the ability to create new cells from them (which has already been done). So they just say hey we made a kidney (which they didn't) but we're still in the testing phase so we can't show it. In actuality they made kidney cells which theoretically can be made into a new kidney. I could be wrong... but it seems likely, usually scientific claims like this turn out to be greatly exagerated. Now for some moral issues about stem cell. I suppose I just don't see what the big deal is. Think about it in the terms of life and death. The best stem cells come from feti, hence abortion. Now those babies are already dead once aborted. If those cells can be used to save the life of a living person instead of sitting in a landfill then I believe there is an obligation to save those lives. I think the whole govt problem with saying stem cells are legal is that if stem cell research from embriotic tissue is legalized then they are affectivly saying that abortion is legal which politically isn't exactly a wise thing to do. IMHO of course but... seems possible.
Linus doesn't see microsoft as a compepetitor, hes said that numerous times. Linux is for linus thats it. He does't care who uses it, he isn't make a system to rival microsoft... hes making a system that he likes. People really need to seperate the distribututions beliefs from linus's because they are different. Now mandrake or Redhat, yeah maybe they see Microsoft as a rival... but definitly not Linus. I mean think about it. Linus does the kernel... and Kernels really aren't a rivalry thing becaues by themselves they aren't really that big of a deal. They need a full system around them, which linus really has nothing to do with and has said many times.
The kernel may not have any problems with the gui, but they need to work out the vm issues in the new batch (andre's works very well... just needs some treaks). The older kernels may be stable, etc... but they lack features such as usb, etc is needed by a good modern desktop OS. When linux can compete with Windows and MacOS on the features issue, then I'd say it'll be ready for the desktop.
Whoops... gotta quit hitting submit so damned fast. Just wanted to clear up... usually 100 thousand should be a large margin of error... but when this is in relation to 100 million then its not that big of a deal.
I've got some issues with this... mostly in what sites were used. I mean if it was yahoo, geocities, aol, etc... obviously we know that that.24% was some random newbie who just happened to click the wrong thing in mozilla (slighty kidding). If it was slashdot... than well that.24% is still probably accurate. Look people... linux isn't ready yet. It will be, maybe soon... kde 3.0 looks promising, the kernel gets better overtime, etc. But not yet. People have tried, and people have failed. This isn't a flame, I use linux... but right now, I'm on a win 98 box due to a damn winmodem. But thats the thing... think about it... how many computers do you think are in the world? How many of those are on the internet? How many of those also happen to be running linux? Say there are 200 million pcs in the US (which may be accurate). Now say 100 million are on the internet (close). Now,.24% of 100 mil is 240 thousand, which seems alittle low. By how much? I have no clue... but from what I've seen linux is primarily servers and research machines. Either way, this number is close to the truth, probably with a margin of error of 100 thousand either way. Of course this all comes down to what you consider a desktop machine. I mean if you're using the machine to be dedicated to squid, but you play solitaire on it all the time... is it a server or a desktop? Oh well... i've got 2 linux desktops so you can mark those down.
I'll come straight and say it... it looks like KDE is pulling some considerable distance between GNOME and itself. Look I have a lot of respect for the GNOME people... anyone who donates their time to such a massive complex system such as a user enviroment deserves a round of golf claps. The fact is though is that I used to be a GNOME user. And then one day I accidently* logged into KDE 2.2.X (whatever is with RedHat 7.2) and was blown away by the speed and grace. If linux ends up on the desktop in it's present form (X sucks but thats a different story), then most likely it'll be KDE that everyone thinks is linux. They seem to have the perfect model right now... release quickly and update often. Quite impressive really, considering how much shit goes into a project of that magnitude.
* - About the accident... usually I install both enviroments on my machine so I can use apps from both (I always liked KDE's media player and Kmail).
Basically I just always ignored KDE and then one day was checking out what windows managers was available and forgot that I had highlighted KDE and logged in. The rest is history... haven't gone back since.
The RIAA has been screwing the artist for years, its about time they fought back. Haha... I mean how long did the RIAA think all this could last? Lets see what exactly do they do? They write the music right? No wait. They play it? Again no. So then... they record it? Nope. Basically they get rich, I think thats all they really do. Now they're going to get what they deserve due to the fact that at least in the US the govt and people are easily influenced by famous people with money. This along with the bill proposing to allow online music distribution to break the RIAA's choke hold (seen last week or so on slashdot), should be enough. When the shit hits the fan, I wish it'll be on pay-per-view, I'd love to watch the RIAA's lawyers try to weasel up some good reasons justifying their actions.
Now I'm not a german and have never been to germany, but do they have laws governing when strip clubs can be open? I ask this because at least in the US you have to be 18 to get into a strip club, just like the porn sites. Now with that supposing to cover the minors (which it really doesn't... "Please be honest, are you 18?", how is that fair if strip clubs being open whenever they want and porn sites not? I mean in both places you can't really touch the girls anyway (supposedly). Now I've been to strip clubs (I'm not so proud to admit) and to be entirely honest the effect ultimatly isn't that much different from looking at porn. Now on a technical point of view, you could probably make a script in an hour and cover all of this under a crond job for relatively weak enforcement. Basically the front page isn't supposed to have porn on it anyway, so that be freedom of speech should stay up with the rest of the site being chmod 700 when its supposed to be down or chmod 744 when its supposed to up.
The thing about common sense is that you need to make it common to people. Nobody is born with it. How do you learn the common sense not to stick your hand in fire? By burning yourself at one point or another. With that in mind, by educating the public that is what I mean. Let them know that there really is no reason to open a file ending in.vbs or.src from people. The reason these worms spread so well is that they rely on ignorance of people. Get rid of that ignorance and you've gotten rid of the worms. As for sending word documents... how many word documents have you ever received that ended in.scr or.vbs? Considering that.doc has been the defacto extension for a word document for probably a decade, its just dumb to think that anything that said.doc.src was a word document. By default Outlook doesn't launch worms when it receives them. I've received countless worms in a default outlook setting and not once was one run. So I wouldn't go blaming Microsoft for that. People don't want to use any other email clients, because there really is no point. Netscape's sucks. Mozilla's is based off of netscape's. We're talking people that aren't going to use Evolution or Kmail. Maybe someone should write a worm that actually makes people more aware of worms in general, not just specifically.
worm gets out, spreading by point and click method
IT goes on about how bad this one is
Eventually worm dies and kids are caught
Big deal made over last worm causes more copycat type worms
Cycle restarts
Ok I mean thats pretty general, but goddamn if I'm not sick of all this. How about instead of going after the worm writers (they are not innocent but hear me out), why don't we try to at least educate the public into not opening things they don't know about. I mean what good does blackice and zonealarm do if someone opens a file and turns them off? The technology isn't the problem (except with IIS but thats whole different beast), its the people. Maybe someone (I know I'll be flamed as a bastard for this) should create a worm that actually fucks over the people that open it. Instead of making it so they download some roll-back registry fix, how about you just wipe out the registry? Why not make it so IE and Outlook have popup-adds with every page and email they view. What if the worm steals their emails and sends them to spammers list automatically? I mean obviously people aren't learning, or this crap wouldn't be happening over and over again. Yeah the people are victims blah blah blah... cry me a river. I've never had a worm, and never will. I'm not claming i'm smart or anything, but its common sense that an emailing "I'm asking for your advice" with a document that ends in scr or vbs is something that joe45@aol.com probably didn't mean to send me.
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Actually I think the sony psone combo unit (the little white unit thats battery powered and comes with a 5 inch lcd) is sonys testing of the waters so to speak. If I hadn't wanted FFX so bad, I probably would of bought one of those. I mean think about the psone combo, its quasi handheld, it already has 600+ games and can also be plugged into a television. Damn cool gadget.
Alright now I can tell my kids that I saw the CmdrTaco propose to his women on slashdot. I know everything I'd like to say has already been said, so congrats and best wishes Malda.
.Net is a package of sorts. In it your have your c# which is a rip off of java (just look at the syntax... yeah yeah i know runtime is different). Nothing new, just this time its legal. You have your compilers and runtimes for c# and api, just a new way of distributing microsoft software for more money. You have your passport thingy which is supposed to be this great big identification thing that works with all things microsoft... well thats just so you buy more microsoft stuff which equals more money for microsoft. Pretty much, .Net is a repackaging of old microsoft ideas but with a slicker name, and interface and on top of that its kind of legal this time. Nothing new, nothing to see here.
Its kind of funny... theres a quote from the simpsons xfiles episode where homer goes "Yeah and people don't believe me, we can just sell it to the fox network." and Bart follows up with "yeah they'll buy anthing". Haha... the sad thing is fox always cancels their best shows... the family guy is the best cartoon since simpsons and southpark. Hilariously random. Futurama was alright, I wasn't a big watcher... but alot of people swear by it. The critic was awesome, thank god ccentral picked up it on syndicate. The tick was alright... i watched one episode and it did make me laugh. Anyway, the point as if i had one... i think fox doesn't know whats good on its channel. They seem to be trying please all demographics except the 15-35 year old white male one, which lets be honest is definitly what adult cartoons are more aimed for. Its sad...
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my girlfriend...
I think they should pay attention to whats going on with the file-sharing apps. They take down one and another pops up. How would they ever suspect to enforce this? Along with that, how can you patent a content delivery method like linking? Thats complete bullshit, this is even worse than that company that patented pausing tv 20 years ago. I'm really starting to get sick of this intellectual warfare. I had it explained to me by a upper-level IBM fellowship that pretty much the whole point of IP is have a weapon against your competitor, why else would they patent so many inane things. *sigh*... fuck...
My girl is weird. Everytime I tell her I'm a dork, shes goes "No baby, you're a geek." The funny thing is, she couldn't tell the difference between a computer and a toaster oven (yet, she probably could compile a kernel... )
Like I need lag on my power, and lets not forget the script kiddies, this gives "ping of death" a whole new meaning.
"Hey I wanna watch tv!"
"Well, we have to wait until 3AM when every sane person is sleeping so we can have enough power..."
At least then the search feature would work right and they can finally cache all those sites that we take down.
7:58 - Slashdot post that new kernel is out
7:59 - "Bleeding edge" kernel hackers start downloading it
8:30 - download finally is over, start unpacking it
8:35 - ooh and ah over new features in config
8:40 - start compiling, so far so good
8:55 - kernels done, reboot
8:56 - system is as fast as ever and that leet hardware is now supported
8:59 - file system gets fscked due to some small oversight
9:00 - a large scream is heard through country
9:10 - screaming stops
9:20 - hacker finally remembers that its the 2nd #, not the 3rd that means the kernel is unstable
9:30 - i laugh
Think about it, the growing power of the pc and its cheapness is allowing more and more people to run the best games on it, at $50 a piece. Along with that you have the ps2 which has sold some insane number like 18 million units (including one to me last week). I bought it for final fantasy X but decided I wanted to play it with my little brothers so went out and bought 3 more games. This is probably the first year that we've had 3 consoles that are all roughly equal in the minds of users so maybe the more of a choice has lead some people to check out details alittle more which I know once I got into hardware specs I couldn't help but buy one. Just wish the ps2 and xbox were alittle cheaper, but theres always the gamecube and computer games to cover that market. I suppose thats the biggest thing, its no longer you buy a system at $200 (the original consoles, nes, genesis, sega cd, saturn, ps1, 3do, super nes, etc) and thats it. Now you've got your super systems (xbox, ps2), your less pricey but still nice systems (gamecube, gameboy advance, psone combo) and with everyone owning a computer, your very low cost games (darkvault of camalot, soldier of fortune, wolfenstein, sims, etc). Definitly looks like a good time to be in the gaming industry with so many options.
The performance would probably be bad though... this would be a double emulation. Boot up a virtual machine that then boots a virtual amiga to run the OS. Seems kind of not worth it, may as well just set up the AmigaXL thing on its own partition.
Divide the map up into areas where you want all users to access the same things. Use a broadcast message to send mass updates to this. This cuts down individual client updates. Say there is an earthquake or something in the game. Broadcast this data to all those that affected in one big message. Java has features for this although I'm sure c# does also.
If you want to maximize your users, why not use java instead of c#. The syntax is really similar and the performance difference is negilable. On top of that, your users can run the app is solaris, linux, and windows. Along with that, you can build a client java app, so that users can just use IE, Mozilla or Netscape to play the game. My experience with network clients and users, is that they like to use what they're accustomed to. By embedding something into a browser you're cutting down some tech support and installation problems. The other deal is c# is not too tested and requireds special installations for Win 9x and 2000 because they don't come with it. Everybody doesn't have XP yet. I've implemented some stuff like this in java before and it works very nicely due to java's nice network libraries.
If they take over can I have my computer's job? It pretty much just sits there and plays video games against me. Hmm... I wanna be the video game ai, sweet.
Even if they did't do it persay, I'm sure they did something... otherwise a claim like this is just plain stupid. I have a feeling what they probably did is take the cow stem-cells and create kidney cells out of them... not a full kidney. Of course reporting that to the media really isn't all that big of a deal considering that the whole point of stem-cells is the ability to create new cells from them (which has already been done). So they just say hey we made a kidney (which they didn't) but we're still in the testing phase so we can't show it. In actuality they made kidney cells which theoretically can be made into a new kidney. I could be wrong... but it seems likely, usually scientific claims like this turn out to be greatly exagerated. Now for some moral issues about stem cell. I suppose I just don't see what the big deal is. Think about it in the terms of life and death. The best stem cells come from feti, hence abortion. Now those babies are already dead once aborted. If those cells can be used to save the life of a living person instead of sitting in a landfill then I believe there is an obligation to save those lives. I think the whole govt problem with saying stem cells are legal is that if stem cell research from embriotic tissue is legalized then they are affectivly saying that abortion is legal which politically isn't exactly a wise thing to do. IMHO of course but... seems possible.
Linus doesn't see microsoft as a compepetitor, hes said that numerous times. Linux is for linus thats it. He does't care who uses it, he isn't make a system to rival microsoft... hes making a system that he likes. People really need to seperate the distribututions beliefs from linus's because they are different. Now mandrake or Redhat, yeah maybe they see Microsoft as a rival... but definitly not Linus. I mean think about it. Linus does the kernel... and Kernels really aren't a rivalry thing becaues by themselves they aren't really that big of a deal. They need a full system around them, which linus really has nothing to do with and has said many times.
The kernel may not have any problems with the gui, but they need to work out the vm issues in the new batch (andre's works very well... just needs some treaks). The older kernels may be stable, etc... but they lack features such as usb, etc is needed by a good modern desktop OS. When linux can compete with Windows and MacOS on the features issue, then I'd say it'll be ready for the desktop.
Whoops... gotta quit hitting submit so damned fast. Just wanted to clear up... usually 100 thousand should be a large margin of error... but when this is in relation to 100 million then its not that big of a deal.
I've got some issues with this... mostly in what sites were used. I mean if it was yahoo, geocities, aol, etc... obviously we know that that .24% was some random newbie who just happened to click the wrong thing in mozilla (slighty kidding). If it was slashdot... than well that .24% is still probably accurate. Look people... linux isn't ready yet. It will be, maybe soon... kde 3.0 looks promising, the kernel gets better overtime, etc. But not yet. People have tried, and people have failed. This isn't a flame, I use linux... but right now, I'm on a win 98 box due to a damn winmodem. But thats the thing... think about it... how many computers do you think are in the world? How many of those are on the internet? How many of those also happen to be running linux? Say there are 200 million pcs in the US (which may be accurate). Now say 100 million are on the internet (close). Now, .24% of 100 mil is 240 thousand, which seems alittle low. By how much? I have no clue... but from what I've seen linux is primarily servers and research machines. Either way, this number is close to the truth, probably with a margin of error of 100 thousand either way. Of course this all comes down to what you consider a desktop machine. I mean if you're using the machine to be dedicated to squid, but you play solitaire on it all the time... is it a server or a desktop? Oh well... i've got 2 linux desktops so you can mark those down.
I'll come straight and say it... it looks like KDE is pulling some considerable distance between GNOME and itself. Look I have a lot of respect for the GNOME people... anyone who donates their time to such a massive complex system such as a user enviroment deserves a round of golf claps. The fact is though is that I used to be a GNOME user. And then one day I accidently* logged into KDE 2.2.X (whatever is with RedHat 7.2) and was blown away by the speed and grace. If linux ends up on the desktop in it's present form (X sucks but thats a different story), then most likely it'll be KDE that everyone thinks is linux. They seem to have the perfect model right now... release quickly and update often. Quite impressive really, considering how much shit goes into a project of that magnitude.
* - About the accident... usually I install both enviroments on my machine so I can use apps from both (I always liked KDE's media player and Kmail).
Basically I just always ignored KDE and then one day was checking out what windows managers was available and forgot that I had highlighted KDE and logged in. The rest is history... haven't gone back since.
The RIAA has been screwing the artist for years, its about time they fought back. Haha... I mean how long did the RIAA think all this could last? Lets see what exactly do they do? They write the music right? No wait. They play it? Again no. So then... they record it? Nope. Basically they get rich, I think thats all they really do. Now they're going to get what they deserve due to the fact that at least in the US the govt and people are easily influenced by famous people with money. This along with the bill proposing to allow online music distribution to break the RIAA's choke hold (seen last week or so on slashdot), should be enough. When the shit hits the fan, I wish it'll be on pay-per-view, I'd love to watch the RIAA's lawyers try to weasel up some good reasons justifying their actions.
Now I'm not a german and have never been to germany, but do they have laws governing when strip clubs can be open? I ask this because at least in the US you have to be 18 to get into a strip club, just like the porn sites. Now with that supposing to cover the minors (which it really doesn't... "Please be honest, are you 18?", how is that fair if strip clubs being open whenever they want and porn sites not? I mean in both places you can't really touch the girls anyway (supposedly). Now I've been to strip clubs (I'm not so proud to admit) and to be entirely honest the effect ultimatly isn't that much different from looking at porn. Now on a technical point of view, you could probably make a script in an hour and cover all of this under a crond job for relatively weak enforcement. Basically the front page isn't supposed to have porn on it anyway, so that be freedom of speech should stay up with the rest of the site being chmod 700 when its supposed to be down or chmod 744 when its supposed to up.
The thing about common sense is that you need to make it common to people. Nobody is born with it. How do you learn the common sense not to stick your hand in fire? By burning yourself at one point or another. With that in mind, by educating the public that is what I mean. Let them know that there really is no reason to open a file ending in .vbs or .src from people. The reason these worms spread so well is that they rely on ignorance of people. Get rid of that ignorance and you've gotten rid of the worms. As for sending word documents... how many word documents have you ever received that ended in .scr or .vbs? Considering that .doc has been the defacto extension for a word document for probably a decade, its just dumb to think that anything that said .doc.src was a word document. By default Outlook doesn't launch worms when it receives them. I've received countless worms in a default outlook setting and not once was one run. So I wouldn't go blaming Microsoft for that. People don't want to use any other email clients, because there really is no point. Netscape's sucks. Mozilla's is based off of netscape's. We're talking people that aren't going to use Evolution or Kmail. Maybe someone should write a worm that actually makes people more aware of worms in general, not just specifically.
Ok heres the basic cycle:
script kiddie/cracker/whatever create worm
worm gets out, spreading by point and click method
IT goes on about how bad this one is
Eventually worm dies and kids are caught
Big deal made over last worm causes more copycat type worms
Cycle restarts
Ok I mean thats pretty general, but goddamn if I'm not sick of all this. How about instead of going after the worm writers (they are not innocent but hear me out), why don't we try to at least educate the public into not opening things they don't know about. I mean what good does blackice and zonealarm do if someone opens a file and turns them off? The technology isn't the problem (except with IIS but thats whole different beast), its the people. Maybe someone (I know I'll be flamed as a bastard for this) should create a worm that actually fucks over the people that open it. Instead of making it so they download some roll-back registry fix, how about you just wipe out the registry? Why not make it so IE and Outlook have popup-adds with every page and email they view. What if the worm steals their emails and sends them to spammers list automatically? I mean obviously people aren't learning, or this crap wouldn't be happening over and over again. Yeah the people are victims blah blah blah... cry me a river. I've never had a worm, and never will. I'm not claming i'm smart or anything, but its common sense that an emailing "I'm asking for your advice" with a document that ends in scr or vbs is something that joe45@aol.com probably didn't mean to send me.