Hey just because it was popular doesn't mean its the right thing to do... I mean would you jump off a bridge if all the popular kids did it? Of course I say all this while I wait for Win98 to download the 50 gig of updates it needs since it was released over a modem (ick).
Well at least there is one competent judge in the US. Personally this decision makes alot of sense, as in previously posted... if you can't keep confidential information confidential then you shouldn't have the information. All and all a good decision. I wonder how this affects Microsoft? Maybe now their get their collectively large asses moving and fix those damn security issues before each major release so we don't have to go updating to Microsoft Windows Service Pack 143.
i know... *sigh*... but i don't know if I can 100% believe that broadband is worth it on a mass scale (meaning that it should be as wide spread as normal ISPs). Seems to be a losing venture to me. Someday hopefully technology will dictate politics... until then we'll be using "Big Name Cable OR Phone Company" for our internet needs and considering how far cable and television has come in 50 years, I'm not holding my breath.
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The problem is that the apps that people use that need broadband are being killed, such as napster and other file sharing. Streaming video still works on a modem because noone has done the streaming movie (as in video rental store) idea yet which would certainly require broadband even with better technology. I'd say that 75% at least of people using the internet are perfectly happy with their 5k per second max bandwidth which is more than enough for email, web browsing and chat. Again, this just hurts the rest of us who would like to be able to go faster because we understand (and would actually utilize) the potential.
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Interesting idea but not really feasible I feer. I'd love it if time-warner had a better competitor than Verizon but the govt really fucked us when they allowed the local monopolys (phone companies, power companies, etc). Now I think the thing I'd be really trying to figure out is how do we convince people that they need broadband. As with ISPs back in the day, you had to convince people that they needed, not just wanted to be on the internet. Now they need to be convinced that they need to pay $40 a month as opposed to the $17 so that AOL goes faster. I have a suspicion that this might become a losing battle, which is a shame for the technology in the long run.
"My virus wasn't targeting stupid computer users specifically, just anyone using Microsoft's Outlook Express or AOL," he said. "Oh... damn." Haha... that all most made my coffee come out my nose.
So it looks like all the movies made years ago are going to be true. The govt is going monitor every living soul in the US, and probably the world (sorry to those of you outside the country, but... it is the US). So with that in mind... I surrender. Give me my card and my new name. Give me my own personal observation satellite and spyware dental work. From what I've seen... they go easy on you if you just give in. So... are you listening my beloved republican govt? I give up... (sorry suckers... but I got dibs on this first... might as well be a subservient asskisser before it gets trendy)
Don't companies give software to the govt all the time, or am I missing something? I know they're donating it but I don't think the problem here is this. I think the problem is Ellison's continued push for those id cards and mass public data records (bettering those of the fbi, etc). I'm sure this is unconstitutional somewhere involving privacy, etc. I'm just waiting for microsoft to roll out Windows XP smartcard edition, so not only will.NET passport book you a flight online but you'll need it to get you on the damn plane.
Planes aren't the design i'd be looking at for a "skycar". I think that if nasa really wants to do something new, maybe they'd look into hover crafts. I'm thinking end result like the Jetsons or the Fifth Element. They are possible (look at the hover trains being developed), just not probable any time soon for mass use. The problem with a plane is that if it crashes in air... its going one way, down. And as previously stated large objects falling from high altitudes usually do some damage. With the hover car, if it crashes... then well... it hovers right where it crashed. Of course I wouldn't want to step out and check the damage, might want to wait for the hover taxi for that;-).
Its too bad linux doesn't have some super rich philanphropist to give away mandrake or redhat cds to schools and help get it installed (apologies to you debian/slackware people). That would be really nice, however since that will probably never be the case... the doj should make microsoft give out linux instead of MS software. Haha... how much do you think microsoft would hate that? And then the govt should make MS keep giving out free software (maybe start sending linux through the mail like aol) until it is decided that Microsoft doesn't have that a monopoly anymore (what percentage exactly of market share constitutes a monopoly... 75%, 90%?). Oh stay with me it gets better. On top of this, MS should be forced to #1) Not make a MS Linux, but instead distribute another version see top of post and #2) Provide support to this by either A) doing it themselves which sounds like a bad bad idea... i mean do we want apple doing tech support for microsoft? Anybody remember Microsoft's attempt at creating MS Unix? or B) give that most of that 1.1 billion to the OS community... including redhat who is the master of linux tech support. Of course, the bsd and hurd people might complain... so we'd have to give away some of their cds too. Maybe we can do mcdonalds give aways too. Get your RedHat, Mandrake Linux, FreeBSD, HURD collector CDs today!!!
Also note how I said that it is the BSD people I despise. Not the HP-UX implementation. The HP-UX one is not pretty, but it works. But I hold open source people to higher standards. They are supposed to be the people who do programming because it's an art-form, not because it's their job.
Ok granted thats about programming and I believe we already decided that programming is an art-form. But if thats the case, how can we ignore video games? I mean technically somebody could code the mona lisa (I know I know, actually not that impressive of a painting but deal with the example) by using a text editor and manually putting bits into a file until it ends up being mona_lisa.jpg. Impossible? No... it can be done. Basically has anyone noticed that all these arguments about art, copyright, disk security, etc all go back to an arguement on what constitutes software. Is it the code, or the compiled code? I believe that if movies, music, paintings, sculptures (3d-objects) are all art, and on top of that... if code is art... then how could something up of all those pieces not be art?
Ok, movies are considered art. Music is considered art. These are both entertainment mediums so I would highly doubt that if it is infact because it is an "entertainment medium" that video games would not be considered art. I think the biggest deal lies in the interactive nature of it. A sculpture, painting, etc are not interactive besides looking and maybe touching. Video games take in all your senses except smelling and I'm sure the ps7 will even do that. But think about it, how many of you have put a game on and just been blown away by it to the point where you sit there like an idiot just watching? I can humbly say that there have been a few ocasions I have done that... the biggest being the Lunar series for Sega CD which blew away anything else at the time. Lets see what else... maybe Myst the first time I saw it (even if it is a stupid game), Ecco the Dolphin on Sega CD, etc. I guess it all comes down to the definition of the word art, which dictonary.com says is:
art1 (ärt)
n.
1. Human effort to imitate, supplement, alter, or counteract the work of nature.
2.
1. The conscious production or arrangement of sounds, colors, forms, movements, or other elements in a manner that affects the sense of beauty, specifically the production of the beautiful in a graphic or plastic medium.
2. The study of these activities.
3. The product of these activities; human works of beauty considered as a group.
3. High quality of conception or execution, as found in works of beauty; aesthetic value.
4. A field or category of art, such as music, ballet, or literature.
5. A nonscientific branch of learning; one of the liberal arts.
6.
1. A system of principles and methods employed in the performance of a set of activities: the art of building.
2. A trade or craft that applies such a system of principles and methods: the art of the lexicographer.
7.
1. Skill that is attained by study, practice, or observation: the art of the baker; the blacksmith's art.
2. Skill arising from the exercise of intuitive faculties: ?Self-criticism is an art not many are qualified to practice? (Joyce Carol Oates).
8.
1. arts Artful devices, stratagems, and tricks.
2. Artful contrivance; cunning.
9. Printing. Illustrative material.
I would say that just based on the first two definitions that video games are not only art but infact are more art than anything else. Just read them again and think about them in regards to video games.
Ok the guy wrote or worked on most of the utilities that make up unix. He helped release the most used and best compiler suite in the GNU collection. I'll give him that... hes a brilliant programmer. But, i'm getting just a little sick of him trying to dictate what software the world should use and who should own it. Gnome is in for a fight now with kde, they don't need rms screwing it up. Again, this is not a flame its just my venting because i'm getting sick of rms's attitude. For free software views... I'd take O'Reilly or hell... Linus's (Linux is free... i don't care what anything else is). RMS, i'm scared to admitt gives Open Source a bad name. Its the fanantics like that that lead to us being declared zealot communist, etc... insert latest FUD here. I'm not saying he should disappear, I'm just saying maybe we can give him some kind of figure head job in Gnome where we just nod and say "Thats nice Mr. Stallman, will you please put down mouse". Haha... that would be funny... theres a question, when do CS people retire? I mean RMS has been around awhile... can't we roast him and send him to flordia? Oh well...
Ok, so how do we navigate through this thing? I mean my minidisk player holds 20-30 songs and its a bitch thumbing through them all. Now lets see, 1500 songs is roughly 6 gig (a decent sample due to its randomness of songs selected) meaning that we could put... well alot of music on this thing (roughly 20,000). Thats great but... it would be quicker to rebuild my pc everywhere I go to access all that. I'm sure they have a gui and a fine one but still... who wants to go through 20,000 songs one-by-one?
I wonder what the future owners of linux.biz will do with the site? I know linus won't claim it because he couldn't care less, but this could be kind of interesting in that nobody else has figured out how to run a business out of linux. (It may not be claimed yet but you know some poor sap who thinks hes gonna get rich is going to... haha... sucker)
In recent news it was reported that Microsoft will be shifting all their web belongings to the new domain Microsoft.biz, being that thats all they do anyway and would be more appropriate than Microsoft.net.
The only thing though is that its not the "average" group that needs this kind of storage. It would be more of an irs, etc type thing. Now say the fbi decided they wanted that 3.5 petabytes per lifetime for everyone on earth... at 6-10 billion people (where the pop. should be when this all starts being used more) thats a hell of alot of data. I agree with the guy that discussed transfer rates... personally I believe a smaller/faster approach is probably better than a cumbersome large approach just based on seek times and such. I mean its kind of like space (the big black thing)... yeah its huge and yeah theres alot of stuff in it, but how friggin long does it take to get from point to point? (IMHO of course)
I thought this was going to be a different interview...:-(. Something where they don't ask Linus a bunch of questions that he A)doesn't really care about and B)doesn't really know. In fact after I was done reading it, I could of swore I saw the same interview on pbs over the summer, roughly june or so. Typical linus interview:
:You own linux?
:No
:Could you if you want to?
:No
:What about microsoft, how much do you really really hate them?
:Huh...??? I couldn't care less
:Are you sure you don't want bill gates head on a stick?
:Ok, this is stupid... don't you want to ask me about the decision about andre vs rick's VM system... or potential changes for 2.5?
:No. So about Microsoft and money...
So when are people going to get it through their minds that he doesn't care... i've never met the man, never spoken to him... but from all the interviews i've heard and read thats the conclusion that i've come to. Linux cares about tinkering... creating... and programming. Basically the technology. He doesn't care about business... *sigh*. I would love to hear an interview on technology with him... that would be incredible. I remember in that pbs show, the interviewer actually asked him how he got started programming... and you could see him get excited and start talking about an old video game he wrote way back in the day. Aww... I wouldn't have him any other way.
ps - I think the interviewers need to read up on some of linus's quotes, my personal fav being
"I'm a bastard and proud of it"... closely followed by:
"If you didn't read my last post, go back and do it and make sure to read the line about me being a bastard twice".
My dual pIII system curently has 2 case fans, 2 processor fans, 2 power supply fans and a video card fan. Needless to say it makes hearing the phone kind of difficult but thats the price of being a geek anyway i guess. So i think its funny when people talk about building a quieter "gaming" system. Say your playing quake III or half-life, what you can't hear the rockets over you case fans? I would have to say that no matter how loud your box is (granted its not an old clunker) what you do on it will be a whole lot louder.
and those people should then use windows, which goes all the way back to my main point. And what hardware did you have that did not work in linux? Thats very strange unless you were using an older version or have old or random hardware. My cd burner works so... ?
If all my hardware is supported and all my needs are already fullfilled by programs written or i can write then why do i need to worry about other people? I don't care what other people do. I don't see what your problem with this is, unless you are a troll. I'm using a windows machine right now, when i go home i'll be using linux. Thats the way the world works. I don't tell windows people to switch unless they ask. I don't tell linux people to use debian, because i don't either. I'm interesting in Open Source but i don't care all that much. All i know is that right now i have a stable os that does every i need it to do which makes me happy. If i'm happy with my os then i don't care who else uses it.
No i do not trust the programs right now... i said that in my original post if you read it. However i'm sure they'll come around eventually, even if i don't use them. Command-line is old... i don't use it unless i have to fix my system or do something that i don't trust the gui to handle. But don't get me wrong... i use the gui to its fullest extent including its config programs and such. I just stay away from gui programs that i can more easily do with the command-line.
Is this a good thing? Mac doesn't have drivers they have extensions and its all apple hardware anyway so of course they should write their own extensions. As for windows, how many buggy drivers have you used? How many updated drivers have you had to install? Companies apparently don't really care about drivers that much... hence why if you look microsoft writes a whole bunch of their own... much like the open source community. I recently installed Win XP and microsoft provided a driver for every piece of hardware i own. No 3rd party either. Linux doesn't have a problem with driver support... its there. Beos has a problem with that. BSD has a problem with that. Linux does not. So more games does not make that big of a difference for more and better drivers. Why do I need creative to write a half assed driver for something when some open source linux guy in canada already wrote a perfectly written one for me. If you write it fine the first time you don't need to upgrade... the hardware isn't changing.
I think what your missing is that that is my opinion based on my use of linux. Currently there is plenty of software out there that i like and use and am not all that worried about learning to speak another language (theres books for that such stuff). I like commerical software... ibm made a working dvd player which is nice, and i have no problem with that. Linux is already way more advanced than AtheOS or BeOS ever got in the application and user base and i'm not panicing about it becoming useless. An os and application can not go back in time and what linux has now is good and is getting better. Also, I would like to point out that i do not consider it GNU/linux, rms can call it what he wants but i call it linux (as does linus). I also do not touch debian even if its "leet" because it is old software. I prefere a modern distribution with a fresh kernel and new software. So lumping me as a GNU zealot is silly.
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Hey just because it was popular doesn't mean its the right thing to do... I mean would you jump off a bridge if all the popular kids did it? Of course I say all this while I wait for Win98 to download the 50 gig of updates it needs since it was released over a modem (ick).
Well at least there is one competent judge in the US. Personally this decision makes alot of sense, as in previously posted... if you can't keep confidential information confidential then you shouldn't have the information. All and all a good decision. I wonder how this affects Microsoft? Maybe now their get their collectively large asses moving and fix those damn security issues before each major release so we don't have to go updating to Microsoft Windows Service Pack 143.
i know... *sigh*... but i don't know if I can 100% believe that broadband is worth it on a mass scale (meaning that it should be as wide spread as normal ISPs). Seems to be a losing venture to me. Someday hopefully technology will dictate politics... until then we'll be using "Big Name Cable OR Phone Company" for our internet needs and considering how far cable and television has come in 50 years, I'm not holding my breath.
The problem is that the apps that people use that need broadband are being killed, such as napster and other file sharing. Streaming video still works on a modem because noone has done the streaming movie (as in video rental store) idea yet which would certainly require broadband even with better technology. I'd say that 75% at least of people using the internet are perfectly happy with their 5k per second max bandwidth which is more than enough for email, web browsing and chat. Again, this just hurts the rest of us who would like to be able to go faster because we understand (and would actually utilize) the potential.
Interesting idea but not really feasible I feer. I'd love it if time-warner had a better competitor than Verizon but the govt really fucked us when they allowed the local monopolys (phone companies, power companies, etc). Now I think the thing I'd be really trying to figure out is how do we convince people that they need broadband. As with ISPs back in the day, you had to convince people that they needed, not just wanted to be on the internet. Now they need to be convinced that they need to pay $40 a month as opposed to the $17 so that AOL goes faster. I have a suspicion that this might become a losing battle, which is a shame for the technology in the long run.
"My virus wasn't targeting stupid computer users specifically, just anyone using Microsoft's Outlook Express or AOL," he said. "Oh... damn."
Haha... that all most made my coffee come out my nose.
So it looks like all the movies made years ago are going to be true. The govt is going monitor every living soul in the US, and probably the world (sorry to those of you outside the country, but... it is the US). So with that in mind... I surrender. Give me my card and my new name. Give me my own personal observation satellite and spyware dental work. From what I've seen... they go easy on you if you just give in. So... are you listening my beloved republican govt? I give up... (sorry suckers... but I got dibs on this first... might as well be a subservient asskisser before it gets trendy)
Don't companies give software to the govt all the time, or am I missing something? I know they're donating it but I don't think the problem here is this. I think the problem is Ellison's continued push for those id cards and mass public data records (bettering those of the fbi, etc). I'm sure this is unconstitutional somewhere involving privacy, etc. I'm just waiting for microsoft to roll out Windows XP smartcard edition, so not only will .NET passport book you a flight online but you'll need it to get you on the damn plane.
Come on people... lets not forget the hippies. They've been flying in cars for years, all fueled on organic chemicals.
Planes aren't the design i'd be looking at for a "skycar". I think that if nasa really wants to do something new, maybe they'd look into hover crafts. I'm thinking end result like the Jetsons or the Fifth Element. They are possible (look at the hover trains being developed), just not probable any time soon for mass use. The problem with a plane is that if it crashes in air... its going one way, down. And as previously stated large objects falling from high altitudes usually do some damage. With the hover car, if it crashes... then well... it hovers right where it crashed. Of course I wouldn't want to step out and check the damage, might want to wait for the hover taxi for that ;-).
Its too bad linux doesn't have some super rich philanphropist to give away mandrake or redhat cds to schools and help get it installed (apologies to you debian/slackware people). That would be really nice, however since that will probably never be the case... the doj should make microsoft give out linux instead of MS software. Haha... how much do you think microsoft would hate that? And then the govt should make MS keep giving out free software (maybe start sending linux through the mail like aol) until it is decided that Microsoft doesn't have that a monopoly anymore (what percentage exactly of market share constitutes a monopoly... 75%, 90%?). Oh stay with me it gets better. On top of this, MS should be forced to #1) Not make a MS Linux, but instead distribute another version see top of post and #2) Provide support to this by either A) doing it themselves which sounds like a bad bad idea... i mean do we want apple doing tech support for microsoft? Anybody remember Microsoft's attempt at creating MS Unix? or B) give that most of that 1.1 billion to the OS community... including redhat who is the master of linux tech support. Of course, the bsd and hurd people might complain... so we'd have to give away some of their cds too. Maybe we can do mcdonalds give aways too. Get your RedHat, Mandrake Linux, FreeBSD, HURD collector CDs today!!!
Linus Quote:
Also note how I said that it is the BSD people I despise. Not the HP-UX implementation. The HP-UX one is not pretty, but it works. But I hold open source people to higher standards. They are supposed to be the people who do programming because it's an art-form, not because it's their job.
Ok granted thats about programming and I believe we already decided that programming is an art-form. But if thats the case, how can we ignore video games? I mean technically somebody could code the mona lisa (I know I know, actually not that impressive of a painting but deal with the example) by using a text editor and manually putting bits into a file until it ends up being mona_lisa.jpg. Impossible? No... it can be done. Basically has anyone noticed that all these arguments about art, copyright, disk security, etc all go back to an arguement on what constitutes software. Is it the code, or the compiled code? I believe that if movies, music, paintings, sculptures (3d-objects) are all art, and on top of that... if code is art... then how could something up of all those pieces not be art?
Ok, movies are considered art. Music is considered art. These are both entertainment mediums so I would highly doubt that if it is infact because it is an "entertainment medium" that video games would not be considered art. I think the biggest deal lies in the interactive nature of it. A sculpture, painting, etc are not interactive besides looking and maybe touching. Video games take in all your senses except smelling and I'm sure the ps7 will even do that. But think about it, how many of you have put a game on and just been blown away by it to the point where you sit there like an idiot just watching? I can humbly say that there have been a few ocasions I have done that... the biggest being the Lunar series for Sega CD which blew away anything else at the time. Lets see what else... maybe Myst the first time I saw it (even if it is a stupid game), Ecco the Dolphin on Sega CD, etc. I guess it all comes down to the definition of the word art, which dictonary.com says is:
art1 (ärt)
n.
1. Human effort to imitate, supplement, alter, or counteract the work of nature.
2.
1. The conscious production or arrangement of sounds, colors, forms, movements, or other elements in a manner that affects the sense of beauty, specifically the production of the beautiful in a graphic or plastic medium.
2. The study of these activities.
3. The product of these activities; human works of beauty considered as a group.
3. High quality of conception or execution, as found in works of beauty; aesthetic value.
4. A field or category of art, such as music, ballet, or literature.
5. A nonscientific branch of learning; one of the liberal arts.
6.
1. A system of principles and methods employed in the performance of a set of activities: the art of building.
2. A trade or craft that applies such a system of principles and methods: the art of the lexicographer.
7.
1. Skill that is attained by study, practice, or observation: the art of the baker; the blacksmith's art.
2. Skill arising from the exercise of intuitive faculties: ?Self-criticism is an art not many are qualified to practice? (Joyce Carol Oates).
8.
1. arts Artful devices, stratagems, and tricks.
2. Artful contrivance; cunning.
9. Printing. Illustrative material.
I would say that just based on the first two definitions that video games are not only art but infact are more art than anything else. Just read them again and think about them in regards to video games.
Ok the guy wrote or worked on most of the utilities that make up unix. He helped release the most used and best compiler suite in the GNU collection. I'll give him that... hes a brilliant programmer. But, i'm getting just a little sick of him trying to dictate what software the world should use and who should own it. Gnome is in for a fight now with kde, they don't need rms screwing it up. Again, this is not a flame its just my venting because i'm getting sick of rms's attitude. For free software views... I'd take O'Reilly or hell... Linus's (Linux is free... i don't care what anything else is). RMS, i'm scared to admitt gives Open Source a bad name. Its the fanantics like that that lead to us being declared zealot communist, etc... insert latest FUD here. I'm not saying he should disappear, I'm just saying maybe we can give him some kind of figure head job in Gnome where we just nod and say "Thats nice Mr. Stallman, will you please put down mouse". Haha... that would be funny... theres a question, when do CS people retire? I mean RMS has been around awhile... can't we roast him and send him to flordia? Oh well...
Ok, so how do we navigate through this thing? I mean my minidisk player holds 20-30 songs and its a bitch thumbing through them all. Now lets see, 1500 songs is roughly 6 gig (a decent sample due to its randomness of songs selected) meaning that we could put... well alot of music on this thing (roughly 20,000). Thats great but... it would be quicker to rebuild my pc everywhere I go to access all that. I'm sure they have a gui and a fine one but still... who wants to go through 20,000 songs one-by-one?
I wonder what the future owners of linux.biz will do with the site? I know linus won't claim it because he couldn't care less, but this could be kind of interesting in that nobody else has figured out how to run a business out of linux. (It may not be claimed yet but you know some poor sap who thinks hes gonna get rich is going to... haha... sucker)
In recent news it was reported that Microsoft will be shifting all their web belongings to the new domain Microsoft.biz, being that thats all they do anyway and would be more appropriate than Microsoft.net.
The only thing though is that its not the "average" group that needs this kind of storage. It would be more of an irs, etc type thing. Now say the fbi decided they wanted that 3.5 petabytes per lifetime for everyone on earth... at 6-10 billion people (where the pop. should be when this all starts being used more) thats a hell of alot of data. I agree with the guy that discussed transfer rates... personally I believe a smaller/faster approach is probably better than a cumbersome large approach just based on seek times and such. I mean its kind of like space (the big black thing)... yeah its huge and yeah theres alot of stuff in it, but how friggin long does it take to get from point to point? (IMHO of course)
I thought this was going to be a different interview... :-(. Something where they don't ask Linus a bunch of questions that he A)doesn't really care about and B)doesn't really know. In fact after I was done reading it, I could of swore I saw the same interview on pbs over the summer, roughly june or so. Typical linus interview:
:Could you if you want to?
:What about microsoft, how much do you really really hate them?
:Are you sure you don't want bill gates head on a stick?
:No. So about Microsoft and money...
:You own linux?
:No
:No
:Huh...??? I couldn't care less
:Ok, this is stupid... don't you want to ask me about the decision about andre vs rick's VM system... or potential changes for 2.5?
So when are people going to get it through their minds that he doesn't care... i've never met the man, never spoken to him... but from all the interviews i've heard and read thats the conclusion that i've come to. Linux cares about tinkering... creating... and programming. Basically the technology. He doesn't care about business... *sigh*. I would love to hear an interview on technology with him... that would be incredible. I remember in that pbs show, the interviewer actually asked him how he got started programming... and you could see him get excited and start talking about an old video game he wrote way back in the day. Aww... I wouldn't have him any other way.
ps - I think the interviewers need to read up on some of linus's quotes, my personal fav being
"I'm a bastard and proud of it"... closely followed by:
"If you didn't read my last post, go back and do it and make sure to read the line about me being a bastard twice".
My dual pIII system curently has 2 case fans, 2 processor fans, 2 power supply fans and a video card fan. Needless to say it makes hearing the phone kind of difficult but thats the price of being a geek anyway i guess. So i think its funny when people talk about building a quieter "gaming" system. Say your playing quake III or half-life, what you can't hear the rockets over you case fans? I would have to say that no matter how loud your box is (granted its not an old clunker) what you do on it will be a whole lot louder.
and those people should then use windows, which goes all the way back to my main point. And what hardware did you have that did not work in linux? Thats very strange unless you were using an older version or have old or random hardware. My cd burner works so... ?
If all my hardware is supported and all my needs are already fullfilled by programs written or i can write then why do i need to worry about other people? I don't care what other people do. I don't see what your problem with this is, unless you are a troll. I'm using a windows machine right now, when i go home i'll be using linux. Thats the way the world works. I don't tell windows people to switch unless they ask. I don't tell linux people to use debian, because i don't either. I'm interesting in Open Source but i don't care all that much. All i know is that right now i have a stable os that does every i need it to do which makes me happy. If i'm happy with my os then i don't care who else uses it.
No i do not trust the programs right now... i said that in my original post if you read it. However i'm sure they'll come around eventually, even if i don't use them. Command-line is old... i don't use it unless i have to fix my system or do something that i don't trust the gui to handle. But don't get me wrong... i use the gui to its fullest extent including its config programs and such. I just stay away from gui programs that i can more easily do with the command-line.
Is this a good thing? Mac doesn't have drivers they have extensions and its all apple hardware anyway so of course they should write their own extensions. As for windows, how many buggy drivers have you used? How many updated drivers have you had to install? Companies apparently don't really care about drivers that much... hence why if you look microsoft writes a whole bunch of their own... much like the open source community. I recently installed Win XP and microsoft provided a driver for every piece of hardware i own. No 3rd party either. Linux doesn't have a problem with driver support... its there. Beos has a problem with that. BSD has a problem with that. Linux does not. So more games does not make that big of a difference for more and better drivers. Why do I need creative to write a half assed driver for something when some open source linux guy in canada already wrote a perfectly written one for me. If you write it fine the first time you don't need to upgrade... the hardware isn't changing.
I think what your missing is that that is my opinion based on my use of linux. Currently there is plenty of software out there that i like and use and am not all that worried about learning to speak another language (theres books for that such stuff). I like commerical software... ibm made a working dvd player which is nice, and i have no problem with that. Linux is already way more advanced than AtheOS or BeOS ever got in the application and user base and i'm not panicing about it becoming useless. An os and application can not go back in time and what linux has now is good and is getting better. Also, I would like to point out that i do not consider it GNU/linux, rms can call it what he wants but i call it linux (as does linus). I also do not touch debian even if its "leet" because it is old software. I prefere a modern distribution with a fresh kernel and new software. So lumping me as a GNU zealot is silly.