MAPS' RBL blocking is censorship in its worst manifestation. It is a extremist system that seeks to censor people simply because they happen to be with the same ISP that has a particular individual that MAPS does not like.
As opposed to blocking sites that use one word you don't like. EG: 2600.com has nothing but news reports and an online store, but using the word "hacking" got them banned by this and similar systems. Several history sites were also banned because "nazi", "hitler" and "kill jews" were all used...so now 'the children' can't even do their homework. Guess they'll go play Diablo instead, since their computers are useless for that homework thing.
MAPS may claim that their actions are in the interest of good, but in reality they would easily trade in the good of children to achieve their goal.
...and you claim you actions are in the interest of good, but in reality you easily trade in the good of people as a whole to achieve your goal.
Censorship is a broad brush that drips paint on the pure, as well as the tainted.
Imagine trying to connect to a crisis assistance site after a devastating earthquake, only to find its among a vast IP group being blocked by...
You? Imagine being in an internet cafe and trying to check emergency sites or news sites after the WTC attack, only to find that cafe uses your product, thus banning sites with words like "terrorist/ism" "bombs" "kill americans" and "fuck america". Sound too weird to be true? Sorry...it happened!! But since you love analogies so much here's one: Just like I complained to the owner of that internet cafe who uses your software, maybe you should be complaining to the ISP's who chose to use MAPS.
Can we put all the "wow, I loved Something About Mary!!" and "the Outsiders rocked!" Comments inside this one thread, to save the rest of this discusion from having to read it? I know I can't dissuade you from thinking it is original or funny, but I can at least try to contain it..
As opposed to today, when falling through the ice of a frozen lake when you have a bad heart is a freekin picnic...
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I noticed none of the cable-channels are showing "Fight Club" anymore. Sorry to spoil the ending, (sortof, since it wasn't the WTC that got toppled) but I wonder if they'll show it again in the coming months?
Seems silly to avoid showing things like that, or to avoid having the towers in a movie. Unless it is relevant to the script, why bother? Isn't that a lot of work for no real payoff?
I guess this is why moviemakers don't normally use the real president's name in movies...costs too much to dub it out.;)
Damn. By replying to this, there's no denying I actually clicked to read a review of "Zoolander". Man I hope nobody sees this and outs me as an in-the-closet-crappy-movie-fan.
Yes, two weeks ago a horrible, tragic thing occured. I knew people inside. Should we spend the rest of our lives talking about nothing but September 11th? OR is there just a certain period of time the news must stop reporting anything other than the facts we've already heard a dozen times?
Way to give in to terrorism...dwell on it forever.
And way to get suckered in by a troll, BreakWindows. doh!
How would you feel if you produced a hit one day, it's played everywhere, but instead of a lot of money, you only receive a few pats on the back?
Not to agree nor disagree with your point (my post is slightly off-topic), but this brings up another peeve of mine..
As an artist, I'd love that. Knowing that my art is being experienced by millions of people and my message could make an impact on that many people is an amazing thing, and everything an artist could hope for. These people are not "artists". They are employees...which is fine, as long as they don't try to claim that we are "stealing their blood, sweat, tears, dreams and emotions"(see Lars Ulrich). If your dreams and emotions can be bought and sold at the local shopping mall and are worth nothing more than the $12.95 some kid pays for them, then they've already been stolen long before MP3 got cool.
That's why I personally find it more important to support artists than the guys who write jingles for MTV commercials (read: "artists").
Everyone keeps mentioning this deafening keyboard clicking that keeps them from being able to learn anything. Most "web surfers" I've seen in classrooms click a link...read for a few minutes...click a link...read for a few minutes...type "yahoo.com" and read their email for a few minutes.
Is that any more or less distracting than a roomfull of flipping notebook/textbook pages every minute?
It seems there are knee-jerk reactions in both sides of this argument. Everyone is either "No net censorship! Damn the DMCA(?) !" or "These sonic-booming keyboards with the ultra-loud clicky keys are preventing my education!"
Maybe if you can't handle reading with keyboard/mouse noise in the background, you have deeper issues? How do you ever plan on working at a real job with a room full of keyboards all going at once?
I'd love to have a new job at Microsoft. I could screw up every day for a month, make mistakes, implement underhanded (possibly even illegal) software into the system and then claim it is a feature I took it upon myself to install without permission...then after I've been making huge mistakes for a while I can finally look into the eyes of the person who's data I just royally screwed and say "what? I make ONE mistake today and you jump all over me! You have a closed mind! I'll bet the employee of the month wouldn't receive this treatment!".
I'll give you that people go easier on FS than on MS in lieu of any mistakes made in the past, but maybe it has more to do with track-record than a bandwagon?
l fail to see any reason it would not be good financially, "especially for schools"? What makes schools special, since most schools accept hardware donations and need to install an OS in-house? Or, if purchasing systems, can use Dell or one of the few hardware vendors who will install either linux, or a much cheaper old copy of Windows (one that wouldn't be good for educational purposes, but is just right for FDISK'ing).
For school, servers, businesses and anyone doing development, lisencing is a must. You can argue that people will borrow a copy of Widows from a friend and install it on their home PC, but for businesses, it isn't worth the risk
You also seem to have conveniently left out the portion of Microsoft's EULA which gaurantees the right to not use Windows and receive a full refund on the cost of software, if said software came preinstalled on your system...getting a $100 refund and dropping a free copy of linux on your machines is financially sound..
Hasn't anyone picked up on the fact that this company pushing to "secure and protect us", is one of the major companies just looking for an excuse to implement
CPRM (the free software killer) on our computers?
Hmm....spooky. l wonder what a good way to stop "virus-infected pirated software" will be...
most people are happy with there lives there always looking for something better but there happy.
Yes, and looking for something better is a surefire sign that people are happy with where they are. (ps: their != there)
Of course, you also missed the entire point. Read 1984...that is what happens when people give up public duty because corporate sponsorship is more doubleplusgood. PBS isn't people paying for what they like, it is the public paying for the right to have public broadcasting. What you're suggesting is like saying "public schools suck, l dont want to pay for them, lets ditch them and make everyone pay for catholic school".
l think the point was that since the "airwaves" are, in fact, owned by the public, it is vital to maintain what tiny little grasp of the airwaves we have left. Otherwise, we're just letting the herded masses turn the last educational programming in the country into another network of Survivor, Regis, Friends and realty-based programming ("programming" being the operative word here..), simply because they think staring at a little box with pictures in HDTV as opposed to high-resolution "old" TV will somehow make their lives richer.
Whether or not the shows on PBS are any good really isn't the point...there has to be a public forum in every medium.
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MAPS' RBL blocking is censorship in its worst manifestation. It is a extremist system that seeks to censor people simply because they happen to be with the same ISP that has a particular individual that MAPS does not like.
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As opposed to blocking sites that use one word you don't like. EG: 2600.com has nothing but news reports and an online store, but using the word "hacking" got them banned by this and similar systems. Several history sites were also banned because "nazi", "hitler" and "kill jews" were all used...so now 'the children' can't even do their homework. Guess they'll go play Diablo instead, since their computers are useless for that homework thing.
MAPS may claim that their actions are in the interest of good, but in reality they would easily trade in the good of children to achieve their goal.
...and you claim you actions are in the interest of good, but in reality you easily trade in the good of people as a whole to achieve your goal.
Censorship is a broad brush that drips paint on the pure, as well as the tainted.
Imagine trying to connect to a crisis assistance site after a devastating earthquake, only to find its among a vast IP group being blocked by
You? Imagine being in an internet cafe and trying to check emergency sites or news sites after the WTC attack, only to find that cafe uses your product, thus banning sites with words like "terrorist/ism" "bombs" "kill americans" and "fuck america". Sound too weird to be true? Sorry...it happened!! But since you love analogies so much here's one: Just like I complained to the owner of that internet cafe who uses your software, maybe you should be complaining to the ISP's who chose to use MAPS.
People sicken me more by the minute.
Can we put all the "wow, I loved Something About Mary!!" and "the Outsiders rocked!" Comments inside this one thread, to save the rest of this discusion from having to read it? I know I can't dissuade you from thinking it is original or funny, but I can at least try to contain it..
Stay Gold, Penguin-boy.
Am thinkink of startink ISP in das silo. Where is Dust Puppy when you need him?
As opposed to today, when falling through the ice of a frozen lake when you have a bad heart is a freekin picnic...
I noticed none of the cable-channels are showing "Fight Club" anymore. Sorry to spoil the ending, (sortof, since it wasn't the WTC that got toppled) but I wonder if they'll show it again in the coming months?
;)
Seems silly to avoid showing things like that, or to avoid having the towers in a movie. Unless it is relevant to the script, why bother? Isn't that a lot of work for no real payoff?
I guess this is why moviemakers don't normally use the real president's name in movies...costs too much to dub it out.
Damn. By replying to this, there's no denying I actually clicked to read a review of "Zoolander". Man I hope nobody sees this and outs me as an in-the-closet-crappy-movie-fan.
Yes, two weeks ago a horrible, tragic thing occured. I knew people inside. Should we spend the rest of our lives talking about nothing but September 11th? OR is there just a certain period of time the news must stop reporting anything other than the facts we've already heard a dozen times?
Way to give in to terrorism...dwell on it forever.
And way to get suckered in by a troll, BreakWindows. doh!
How would you feel if you produced a hit one day, it's played everywhere, but instead of a lot of money, you only receive a few pats on the back?
Not to agree nor disagree with your point (my post is slightly off-topic), but this brings up another peeve of mine..
As an artist, I'd love that. Knowing that my art is being experienced by millions of people and my message could make an impact on that many people is an amazing thing, and everything an artist could hope for. These people are not "artists". They are employees...which is fine, as long as they don't try to claim that we are "stealing their blood, sweat, tears, dreams and emotions"(see Lars Ulrich). If your dreams and emotions can be bought and sold at the local shopping mall and are worth nothing more than the $12.95 some kid pays for them, then they've already been stolen long before MP3 got cool.
That's why I personally find it more important to support artists than the guys who write jingles for MTV commercials (read: "artists").
Everyone keeps mentioning this deafening keyboard clicking that keeps them from being able to learn anything. Most "web surfers" I've seen in classrooms click a link...read for a few minutes...click a link...read for a few minutes...type "yahoo.com" and read their email for a few minutes.
Is that any more or less distracting than a roomfull of flipping notebook/textbook pages every minute?
It seems there are knee-jerk reactions in both sides of this argument. Everyone is either "No net censorship! Damn the DMCA(?) !" or "These sonic-booming keyboards with the ultra-loud clicky keys are preventing my education!"
Maybe if you can't handle reading with keyboard/mouse noise in the background, you have deeper issues? How do you ever plan on working at a real job with a room full of keyboards all going at once?
I'd love to have a new job at Microsoft. I could screw up every day for a month, make mistakes, implement underhanded (possibly even illegal) software into the system and then claim it is a feature I took it upon myself to install without permission...then after I've been making huge mistakes for a while I can finally look into the eyes of the person who's data I just royally screwed and say "what? I make ONE mistake today and you jump all over me! You have a closed mind! I'll bet the employee of the month wouldn't receive this treatment!".
I'll give you that people go easier on FS than on MS in lieu of any mistakes made in the past, but maybe it has more to do with track-record than a bandwagon?
Not to mention, its a third-party driver..
l fail to see any reason it would not be good financially, "especially for schools"? What makes schools special, since most schools accept hardware donations and need to install an OS in-house? Or, if purchasing systems, can use Dell or one of the few hardware vendors who will install either linux, or a much cheaper old copy of Windows (one that wouldn't be good for educational purposes, but is just right for FDISK'ing).
For school, servers, businesses and anyone doing development, lisencing is a must. You can argue that people will borrow a copy of Widows from a friend and install it on their home PC, but for businesses, it isn't worth the risk
You also seem to have conveniently left out the portion of Microsoft's EULA which gaurantees the right to not use Windows and receive a full refund on the cost of software, if said software came preinstalled on your system...getting a $100 refund and dropping a free copy of linux on your machines is financially sound..
http://zork.net/refund
-but my username really is Anonymous Coward!
Hasn't anyone picked up on the fact that this company pushing to "secure and protect us", is one of the major companies just looking for an excuse to implement CPRM (the free software killer) on our computers?
Hmm....spooky. l wonder what a good way to stop "virus-infected pirated software" will be...
..lf l'm ever stranded on Mars, trying to get into that big face, l can bring this thing along.
;).
(lts not a spoiler, since l didn't say what movie that was
most people are happy with there lives there always looking for something better but there happy.
Yes, and looking for something better is a surefire sign that people are happy with where they are. (ps: their != there)
Of course, you also missed the entire point. Read 1984...that is what happens when people give up public duty because corporate sponsorship is more doubleplusgood. PBS isn't people paying for what they like, it is the public paying for the right to have public broadcasting. What you're suggesting is like saying "public schools suck, l dont want to pay for them, lets ditch them and make everyone pay for catholic school".
l think the point was that since the "airwaves" are, in fact, owned by the public, it is vital to maintain what tiny little grasp of the airwaves we have left. Otherwise, we're just letting the herded masses turn the last educational programming in the country into another network of Survivor, Regis, Friends and realty-based programming ("programming" being the operative word here..), simply because they think staring at a little box with pictures in HDTV as opposed to high-resolution "old" TV will somehow make their lives richer. Whether or not the shows on PBS are any good really isn't the point...there has to be a public forum in every medium.