True, but that may not be a bad thing. There is no competition, but there is a voting populus that must be placated. Try telling HIP or Aetna that you'll take your business elsewhere...they make so much money off the average person, it doesn't even matter. Plus, they're all in bed with Pfizer/Merck, which is one of the big costs anyway. Pfizer ups the price of their drugs, and has deals with each HMO. No matter who you pay, the drug cartels^W companies get their's.
It also leaves us with the moral aspect: no one should turn a person's life into a lucritive business. Living is a basic human right, not something that should be turned away when there's no more money to be made (try getting insured when you're 65 and have a history of cancer in your family). I have personally seen policies dropped in the face of terminal illness: you can only have healthcare if you don't need it. A universal system means your doctor wants to cure the ill, rather than buy a Porsche.
As for supplies, a for-profit system, hypothetically, should be better equipped since there are billion-dollar companies backing it. This isn't usually the case, and even when it is, those facilities are only available to the wealthier part of the population. The poor/middle-class areas can't pay as much, so they die. Saying a human life isn't worth as much because they don't have a high-paying job just doesn't work for me (here in NY, firemen are on this ultra-shitty HIP plan that almost killed my friend; stockbrokers' lives are apparantly worth more).
4. Ive heard of some walmarts not selling birth control in any form.. (I guess they want to decide who lives and dies)
No, they just want to make sure there's an ample supply of children running around to stock their sweatshops. If they start selling birth control, the producers of their clothing line would really be understaffed.
Everyone has been pointing to that, but noone has acknowledged the fact that absentee ballots are not monitored at all, and any number of coercive tactics could take place with them.
True, but absentee ballots are a necessity, for people fighting overseas or detained/disabled during election time. You can't expect us, in the middle of a war, to bring all the troops back for a few hours to vote...it sucks, but there's no other way for them. Internet-based voting for the general public is purely a convenience, and a silly one at that.
If we do have internet voting, I know what I'll do: hold a party. I'll unlock the doors at work, and have 200 computers all opened to the voting site...you get free booze, drugs and prizes if you vote for _______. 200 at a time, however many times = some nice turnouts.
Ever since playing Max Payne, I've had the urge to buy
a.50 caliber armalite automatic rifle and shoot
the people who cross me...I guess this product placement
stuff works.
Man, the "devious" flag just raised on this one. Maybe I can grab all the CD's, bring them home and burn new ones, chock full'of nice little additions...viruses, bugs, flaws; then put them back, shrinkwrapped and ready to go. "Hello, Microsoft? I just installed this XP promo and every time I boot up it invokes the name of Satan". Or, "sweet jesus, what's with all the penguins on my screen!?". Hey, maybe something as simple as a new office assistant that offers advice every 15 seconds.
And for the smartasses...yes, new bugs over the ones already on there. I guess this would work with those AOL promo's too...but since no one would ever install those (as they already have 500) it wouldn't be as fulfilling.
sorry, but if I am pissed off at the service I receive at a restaurant and I feel the need to stand in the parking lot telling people what I think I have all the rights in the world to do so. How the hell would this be any different?
Because this involves technology. Your point is absolutely correct, but when litigation gets to use technological buzzwords and confuse the hell out of judges, rationality goes out the window.
Same reason I can't register a "website" named "verizonsucks.com", same reason I can distribute a howto for making dynamite but not a computer program that converts some thing named an "ebook" into another thing named a "pdf", same reason I can't use a program that views DVD's and the same reason I can't find my other shoe. Wait, forget one of those...it doesn't make sense. I leave it as a project for the reader to figure out which one.
If we send a greater beast, to kill a great beast...what do we do with him when he wins?
Nothing. We've just got a bigger, nastier, tougher beast to deal with.
AOL/TW owns the media. Magazines, books, music, movies, television, and a substantial piece of the internet. People are touting this as "a possible end to Microsoft". God I hope not..
AOL/TW, so far, has made: protesters and innocents look like criminals, criminals look like saints, the DMCA legitimate, politicians look like friends and worst of all, cancelled Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Do we really want them without a Microsoft to fight?
Don't do it, Red Hat.
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This post is officially a circumvention device, in violation of the DMCA, since I have made easily accessible the copyrighted content to a large audience against their "copy protection", with that hyperlink.
I think the issue is injuring 11 workers and the potential to kill many more just because Anthrax was sent to a few people a few months ago. 5 dead is a lot when you know them personally, but not in the grand scheme of things, and not when you want to risk injuring (or just screwing over) many more in their memory.
Trust me...if someone has enough connections to procure a deadly virus like this, they can probably get their hands on an envelope and an official-looking USPS "postage used" stamper and just leave the letter it in your mailbox. Or it can be sent via courier service. Or with any circumvention device that may already exist. This doesn't stop Anthrax any more than that 65 year old ex-cop with a flashlight stops mall-theft. The illusion of safety goes on...
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Ok, not sure if NVIDIA_kernel is actually made by Nvidia, that would do it.
The spell checker iGerman...maybe Mac was planning a lager-scented blond powerbook.
sax and sax2 seem to be SuSe specific...but I don't think anyone can sue over a name like "sax". Too generic.
"TerminatorX" is an audio mixer...though I think Public Enemy would shoot first, and bring the lawyers later...
You know, this could take a while...the company distributes 8 goddamn CD's full of litigation-feed.
And it doesn't matter which degree you have, from what I have seen.
Since it really doesn't matter much in real life, I would advocate two different goals:
1] Go for the degree that will get you out of college easily and quickly.
2] Go for the degree that will stretch you and help you to learn the most things that will help you along your career as your curreif you want to go to college, don't ntly understand it.
Since it doesn't really matter, and you (the reader) don't want to micro-focus, why not study something worthwhile and pay attention to the fact there are more important things in life than marketability and salary caps? Would you rather be bored and miserable for 4 years getting a degree in "stuff I already know but this will get me the loot" or learn about something new, interesting and expansive. I work alongside some higher-ups with degrees in Philosophy, Physics and Political Sci...several years work experience proves you know the basics a college will teach you.
So:
1) if you want to go to college, don't "get out quick and easy". That's worthless. Let someone who actually wants to learn take that seat instead.
2) if you want to go to college, don't worry about being VP of company X, making a million dollars someday. Again, let someone who actually wants to learn take the seat instead. If all you want is money, go practice your fake smile and be a marketing geek. To counterpoint the silly arguments I know I'll see: you can pay the bills with $30k a year just as well as $500k a year. And you can "live comfortably" without any degree at all.
From 2000 [1]:
Microsoft will NOT settle with the Department of Justice.
From 2001 [2]:
Microsoft WILL settle with the Department of Justice.
From 2002:
And Microsoft will make itself a part of every deal, everywhere, no matter what happens with its anti-trust case.
Don't bet against Microsoft in 2002.
I feel like I'm on a gerbil wheel, with the end of Microsoft being dangled in front of me...I'm always right there, but never quite within reach.
[1] http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit19991230. html
[2] http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20010104. html
If you're as good as you say, people will start using your application, popularity will grow, and you'll be able to tag it on your resume. What's worth more: finding a potential employer who is using (or has heard of) your software, or some piece of paper that says you know the bare minimum that thousands of other people already know?
The point of a degree is to prove you know the bare, basic essentials...screw that, go above and beyond. Prove you are damn good, under the scrutiny of the best.
It means the system needs to be engineered to handle those users.
So, rather than people becoming more intelligent with the help of technology, we should dumb everything down to the point of the lowest-level user?
Great idea. I see cars made out of nerf replacing driver's education in the near future, with that line of thinking.
How 'bout we just make a good system for once, and if people need to use it they can learn?
I mean... what the hell?? is that all real? I mean I'm used to lying politician, backstabbing authority figures, and all that stuff, but I mean, putting such things on a front page has really shocked me, I can't beleive people can be that openly materialistic and use historic stuff and lie without raising a LOT of opposition...
In answer to your question: It's a parody. Jokes, not real..
However, this isn't too far off the real WTO and IMF/World Bank practices, so it wouldn't shock me.
Basically, these people are like student loans times 1000, to the world. They'll give you money to take care of an immediate crisis in your underdeveloped nation, and in return you only have to pay them back. Of course, they want to be paid back at HUGE rates, that these countries cannot possible afford to pay, and oftentimes never agreed to anyway. So, instead, these countries become slaves to the IMF, and instead of taking care of their nation, they have to produce crops/exports/Nike shoes for their corporate sponsors. The WTO basically wants corporations to be able to act as sovereign nations, exempt from national laws, and they'll dig up any cheapshots possible, including forcing South Africa, where there is a horrifying AIDS epidemic (about 1 in 10 have it), to stop using a knock-off treatment, to instead pay ten times more for the commercial brand. Sure, it may kill a few (thousand) persons, but Pfizer will get more money than they already have! Hooray!
It'll kill millions of people, create and promote sweatshops and worker exploitation, allow some corporate lords to abuse their power....but on the other hand, I imagine General Electric will increase profits, and a strong economy matters more than everyone's basic human rights anyway. You can expect to see stories similar to gatt.org's on a national television station owned by GE, Microsoft, Disney or AOL/Time Warner...only they won't be kidding.
Now do you see why all those protesters were so pissed, and came from so many differant backgrounds (I knew some anarchist squatters and rich suburban types who went, and claim to have met factory workers and "hippies" in the same crowd) ?
This is why there should be more top level domains available. If "McDonald's Sporting Goods" registered mcdonalds.com first, it would probably result in McDonalds the waste-management..err..fast food chain strongarming them into surrendering the name. So, we could have
mcdonalds.food
mcdonalds.sports
mcdonalds.criticism
or mcdonalds.sucks
No confusion there...type in mcdonalds.food looking for sporting goods, and I'll promptly beat you about the head and chest with a hammer. Of course, someone typing companySUCKS.com looking for that company is equally amazing, even in hypothetical considerations.
But, this would mean companies can't complain, or at least make a nice-sounding case for themselves.
As for this Vivendi case, its just absurd. Unless the owners of that site were claiming to be affiliated with Vivendi Universal, or made an identical site to hawk a similar product, it boils down to whether or not we are allowed to badmouth a corporation...or worse yet, say their name without praise and a genuflect.
And upon review of the facts, the courts found that Vivendi Universal really does suck, and no damages should be awarded.
(b)hard and boring factory jobs are replaced with other jobs which are probably better.
For which these workers are not qualified, and will not recieve. A few years ago, tests were given to most of these workers on things people would learn in high school...most of them failed. They might be dedicated and fully qualified on the assembly line, but the piss-poor education they recieve in Detroit won't get them a job writing software to replace the guy they used to be, or even an administrator/repairman for these machines.
In theory, you're absolutely correct. In reality, what jobs are they getting? Don't think numbers or New York or California, think people in Detroit, Michigan: where do they go? I'm not saying you're wrong, but from what I see happening right now, and from everything I can think of, I just don't see any viable options in the near-future.
Well...besides carjacking, for which Detroit is famous.
When people hear music they like and start dancing, their heart rates increase. HPDJ-9000 realizes this, and generates a faster tempo. The dancers' heart rates speed up more. The music speeds up more. Next thing you know, BAM, the local club looks like Benny Hill, whopping people on the head and kicking pants in super-fast motion; hearts explode, eardrums burst...it'll be chaos!
Actually this is pretty much a reasonable concern. A few years ago, Ford laid-off ~5000 employees, most of whom were replaced by machines and computers (not bots). We already see "unskilled labor" tossed aside for machines because cutting a profit is more important than employees being able to feed their families...but what happens now? We go beyond factory workers and manual labor into screwing people out of desk jobs?
If, in a few years, these things are produced cheap enough, its not too absurd to worry.
On the other hand, I'd probably vote for a politicobot before Bush or Gore. At least it would openly admit to being owned by a corporation.
Man, can you imagine a beowulf cluster of congress? - CmdrTaco
Slashdot Mirror
There is no competition with the government.
True, but that may not be a bad thing. There is no competition, but there is a voting populus that must be placated. Try telling HIP or Aetna that you'll take your business elsewhere...they make so much money off the average person, it doesn't even matter. Plus, they're all in bed with Pfizer/Merck, which is one of the big costs anyway. Pfizer ups the price of their drugs, and has deals with each HMO. No matter who you pay, the drug cartels^W companies get their's.
It also leaves us with the moral aspect: no one should turn a person's life into a lucritive business. Living is a basic human right, not something that should be turned away when there's no more money to be made (try getting insured when you're 65 and have a history of cancer in your family). I have personally seen policies dropped in the face of terminal illness: you can only have healthcare if you don't need it. A universal system means your doctor wants to cure the ill, rather than buy a Porsche.
As for supplies, a for-profit system, hypothetically, should be better equipped since there are billion-dollar companies backing it. This isn't usually the case, and even when it is, those facilities are only available to the wealthier part of the population. The poor/middle-class areas can't pay as much, so they die. Saying a human life isn't worth as much because they don't have a high-paying job just doesn't work for me (here in NY, firemen are on this ultra-shitty HIP plan that almost killed my friend; stockbrokers' lives are apparantly worth more).
4. Ive heard of some walmarts not selling birth control in any form.. (I guess they want to decide who lives and dies)
No, they just want to make sure there's an ample supply of children running around to stock their sweatshops. If they start selling birth control, the producers of their clothing line would really be understaffed.
And as soon as you did that, the feds would come knocking
But what if I am the feds?
Everyone has been pointing to that, but noone has acknowledged the fact that absentee ballots are not monitored at all, and any number of coercive tactics could take place with them.
True, but absentee ballots are a necessity, for people fighting overseas or detained/disabled during election time. You can't expect us, in the middle of a war, to bring all the troops back for a few hours to vote...it sucks, but there's no other way for them. Internet-based voting for the general public is purely a convenience, and a silly one at that.
If we do have internet voting, I know what I'll do: hold a party. I'll unlock the doors at work, and have 200 computers all opened to the voting site...you get free booze, drugs and prizes if you vote for _______. 200 at a time, however many times = some nice turnouts.
Ever since playing Max Payne, I've had the urge to buy a .50 caliber armalite automatic rifle and shoot
the people who cross me...I guess this product placement
stuff works.
Oh well...time to go buy some doritos, because i AM bold and daring enough!
Man, the "devious" flag just raised on this one. Maybe I can grab all the CD's, bring them home and burn new ones, chock full'of nice little additions...viruses, bugs, flaws; then put them back, shrinkwrapped and ready to go. "Hello, Microsoft? I just installed this XP promo and every time I boot up it invokes the name of Satan". Or, "sweet jesus, what's with all the penguins on my screen!?". Hey, maybe something as simple as a new office assistant that offers advice every 15 seconds.
And for the smartasses...yes, new bugs over the ones already on there. I guess this would work with those AOL promo's too...but since no one would ever install those (as they already have 500) it wouldn't be as fulfilling.
sorry, but if I am pissed off at the service I receive at a restaurant and I feel the need to stand in the parking lot telling people what I think I have all the rights in the world to do so. How the hell would this be any different?
Because this involves technology. Your point is absolutely correct, but when litigation gets to use technological buzzwords and confuse the hell out of judges, rationality goes out the window.
Same reason I can't register a "website" named "verizonsucks.com", same reason I can distribute a howto for making dynamite but not a computer program that converts some thing named an "ebook" into another thing named a "pdf", same reason I can't use a program that views DVD's and the same reason I can't find my other shoe. Wait, forget one of those...it doesn't make sense. I leave it as a project for the reader to figure out which one.
If we send a greater beast, to kill a great beast...what do we do with him when he wins?
Nothing. We've just got a bigger, nastier, tougher beast to deal with.
AOL/TW owns the media. Magazines, books, music, movies, television, and a substantial piece of the internet. People are touting this as "a possible end to Microsoft". God I hope not..
AOL/TW, so far, has made: protesters and innocents look like criminals, criminals look like saints, the DMCA legitimate, politicians look like friends and worst of all, cancelled Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Do we really want them without a Microsoft to fight?
Don't do it, Red Hat.
http://www.borland.com
This post is officially a circumvention device, in violation of the DMCA, since I have made easily accessible the copyrighted content to a large audience against their "copy protection", with that hyperlink.
Now does everyone see the problem with legalese?
I think the issue is injuring 11 workers and the potential to kill many more just because Anthrax was sent to a few people a few months ago. 5 dead is a lot when you know them personally, but not in the grand scheme of things, and not when you want to risk injuring (or just screwing over) many more in their memory.
Trust me...if someone has enough connections to procure a deadly virus like this, they can probably get their hands on an envelope and an official-looking USPS "postage used" stamper and just leave the letter it in your mailbox. Or it can be sent via courier service. Or with any circumvention device that may already exist. This doesn't stop Anthrax any more than that 65 year old ex-cop with a flashlight stops mall-theft. The illusion of safety goes on...
http://www.suse.com/en/products/suse_linux/i386/pa ckages_professional/index.html
/ pa ckages_personal/index.html
http://www.suse.com/en/products/suse_linux/i386
Ok, not sure if NVIDIA_kernel is actually made by Nvidia, that would do it.
The spell checker iGerman...maybe Mac was planning a lager-scented blond powerbook.
sax and sax2 seem to be SuSe specific...but I don't think anyone can sue over a name like "sax". Too generic.
"TerminatorX" is an audio mixer...though I think Public Enemy would shoot first, and bring the lawyers later...
You know, this could take a while...the company distributes 8 goddamn CD's full of litigation-feed.
And it doesn't matter which degree you have, from what I have seen. Since it really doesn't matter much in real life, I would advocate two different goals:
1] Go for the degree that will get you out of college easily and quickly.
2] Go for the degree that will stretch you and help you to learn the most things that will help you along your career as your curreif you want to go to college, don't ntly understand it.
Since it doesn't really matter, and you (the reader) don't want to micro-focus, why not study something worthwhile and pay attention to the fact there are more important things in life than marketability and salary caps? Would you rather be bored and miserable for 4 years getting a degree in "stuff I already know but this will get me the loot" or learn about something new, interesting and expansive. I work alongside some higher-ups with degrees in Philosophy, Physics and Political Sci...several years work experience proves you know the basics a college will teach you.
So:
1) if you want to go to college, don't "get out quick and easy". That's worthless. Let someone who actually wants to learn take that seat instead.
2) if you want to go to college, don't worry about being VP of company X, making a million dollars someday. Again, let someone who actually wants to learn take the seat instead. If all you want is money, go practice your fake smile and be a marketing geek. To counterpoint the silly arguments I know I'll see: you can pay the bills with $30k a year just as well as $500k a year. And you can "live comfortably" without any degree at all.
At least, that's my opinion.
From 2000 [1]:
. html
. html
Microsoft will NOT settle with the Department of Justice.
From 2001 [2]:
Microsoft WILL settle with the Department of Justice.
From 2002:
And Microsoft will make itself a part of every deal, everywhere, no matter what happens with its anti-trust case.
Don't bet against Microsoft in 2002.
I feel like I'm on a gerbil wheel, with the end of Microsoft being dangled in front of me...I'm always right there, but never quite within reach.
[1] http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit19991230
[2] http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20010104
What a scam...if they're standing in line, how are they updating their website?
Write free software.
If you're as good as you say, people will start using your application, popularity will grow, and you'll be able to tag it on your resume. What's worth more: finding a potential employer who is using (or has heard of) your software, or some piece of paper that says you know the bare minimum that thousands of other people already know?
The point of a degree is to prove you know the bare, basic essentials...screw that, go above and beyond. Prove you are damn good, under the scrutiny of the best.
It means the system needs to be engineered to handle those users.
So, rather than people becoming more intelligent with the help of technology, we should dumb everything down to the point of the lowest-level user?
Great idea. I see cars made out of nerf replacing driver's education in the near future, with that line of thinking.
How 'bout we just make a good system for once, and if people need to use it they can learn?
then this bug must have existed since 1998. Everyone knows there isn't any newly-written code in XP!
Damn right we've been doing it for years. Look at MTV's audience...though that might be more accurately referred to as "cloning sheep".
So, does the ManOS use a monolithi or microkernel? I've heard good things about the mst3k journaling filesystem.
I mean... what the hell?? is that all real? I mean I'm used to lying politician, backstabbing authority figures, and all that stuff, but I mean, putting such things on a front page has really shocked me, I can't beleive people can be that openly materialistic and use historic stuff and lie without raising a LOT of opposition...
In answer to your question: It's a parody. Jokes, not real..
However, this isn't too far off the real WTO and IMF/World Bank practices, so it wouldn't shock me.
Basically, these people are like student loans times 1000, to the world. They'll give you money to take care of an immediate crisis in your underdeveloped nation, and in return you only have to pay them back. Of course, they want to be paid back at HUGE rates, that these countries cannot possible afford to pay, and oftentimes never agreed to anyway. So, instead, these countries become slaves to the IMF, and instead of taking care of their nation, they have to produce crops/exports/Nike shoes for their corporate sponsors. The WTO basically wants corporations to be able to act as sovereign nations, exempt from national laws, and they'll dig up any cheapshots possible, including forcing South Africa, where there is a horrifying AIDS epidemic (about 1 in 10 have it), to stop using a knock-off treatment, to instead pay ten times more for the commercial brand. Sure, it may kill a few (thousand) persons, but Pfizer will get more money than they already have! Hooray!
It'll kill millions of people, create and promote sweatshops and worker exploitation, allow some corporate lords to abuse their power....but on the other hand, I imagine General Electric will increase profits, and a strong economy matters more than everyone's basic human rights anyway. You can expect to see stories similar to gatt.org's on a national television station owned by GE, Microsoft, Disney or AOL/Time Warner...only they won't be kidding.
Now do you see why all those protesters were so pissed, and came from so many differant backgrounds (I knew some anarchist squatters and rich suburban types who went, and claim to have met factory workers and "hippies" in the same crowd) ?
This is why there should be more top level domains available. If "McDonald's Sporting Goods" registered mcdonalds.com first, it would probably result in McDonalds the waste-management..err..fast food chain strongarming them into surrendering the name. So, we could have
mcdonalds.food
mcdonalds.sports
mcdonalds.criticism or mcdonalds.sucks
No confusion there...type in mcdonalds.food looking for sporting goods, and I'll promptly beat you about the head and chest with a hammer. Of course, someone typing companySUCKS.com looking for that company is equally amazing, even in hypothetical considerations. But, this would mean companies can't complain, or at least make a nice-sounding case for themselves.
As for this Vivendi case, its just absurd. Unless the owners of that site were claiming to be affiliated with Vivendi Universal, or made an identical site to hawk a similar product, it boils down to whether or not we are allowed to badmouth a corporation...or worse yet, say their name without praise and a genuflect.
And upon review of the facts, the courts found that Vivendi Universal really does suck, and no damages should be awarded.
(b)hard and boring factory jobs are replaced with other jobs which are probably better.
For which these workers are not qualified, and will not recieve. A few years ago, tests were given to most of these workers on things people would learn in high school...most of them failed. They might be dedicated and fully qualified on the assembly line, but the piss-poor education they recieve in Detroit won't get them a job writing software to replace the guy they used to be, or even an administrator/repairman for these machines.
In theory, you're absolutely correct. In reality, what jobs are they getting? Don't think numbers or New York or California, think people in Detroit, Michigan: where do they go? I'm not saying you're wrong, but from what I see happening right now, and from everything I can think of, I just don't see any viable options in the near-future.
Well...besides carjacking, for which Detroit is famous.
When people hear music they like and start dancing, their heart rates increase. HPDJ-9000 realizes this, and generates a faster tempo. The dancers' heart rates speed up more. The music speeds up more. Next thing you know, BAM, the local club looks like Benny Hill, whopping people on the head and kicking pants in super-fast motion; hearts explode, eardrums burst...it'll be chaos!
Should be one hell of a party though...I'm in.
Actually this is pretty much a reasonable concern. A few years ago, Ford laid-off ~5000 employees, most of whom were replaced by machines and computers (not bots). We already see "unskilled labor" tossed aside for machines because cutting a profit is more important than employees being able to feed their families...but what happens now? We go beyond factory workers and manual labor into screwing people out of desk jobs? If, in a few years, these things are produced cheap enough, its not too absurd to worry.
On the other hand, I'd probably vote for a politicobot before Bush or Gore. At least it would openly admit to being owned by a corporation.
Man, can you imagine a beowulf cluster of congress? - CmdrTaco
"They tested him and tested him. They found he would walk off the job when he got hungry, so they put another wire in to override that"
Damn...I was hungry a few minutes ago, but now I'm not.. I wonder if I'm bugged.
Oddly enough, now that I'm not hungry, I just have the urge to buy some WindowsXP and assassinate Marshall Ledbetter. *shrug*